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MacRumors
Jul 2, 2012, 05:28 PM
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Leaks first appeared (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/11/apple-bringing-notes-and-reminders-to-icloud-com/) in May that Apple was planning to add web versions of the Reminders and Notes iOS apps to iCloud.com for access from desktop Macs and PCs.

The iCloud Beta portal has since been activated for developers enrolled the iOS 6 beta at beta.icloud.com (http://beta.icloud.com). The site displays "Beta" tags on Calendar, Find My iPhone, Notes, and Reminders -- the last two being new additions to iCloud.

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The web version of Find My iPhone has been polished, with a battery status icon as one new feature. The add-on gives users with lost gadgets some indication of how long they have to find their device.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/image3.jpg


Notes is a fairly faithful reproduction of the skeuomorphic notepad on the iPhone. Users can create, edit, and delete notes, with updates reflecting on iOS devices in near-real time.

The Calendar app doesn't have any immediately noticeable changes, other than the removal of Reminders to its own app:

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/image4.jpg


Apple says it is using iCloud to "increase customer delight". With more than 125 million iCloud users as of April, it's unsurprising that the company is focusing so much effort on the service -- both on iOS and the Web. The new iCloud web apps will be live for all users with the launch of iOS 6 (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/11/apple-announces-ios-6-with-siri-improvements-facebook-integration-new-maps-app-passbook-for-fall-release/), expected this fall.

Thanks Jono!

Article Link: iCloud Beta Previews Web Versions of Notes and Reminders (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/02/icloud-beta-previews-web-versions-of-notes-and-reminders/)



jasonxneo
Jul 2, 2012, 05:30 PM
wow looks great! :D

BanterClaus
Jul 2, 2012, 05:33 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

It just seems a little confusing for new users who may not realise they should also track their iPad, iPod Touch or Mac through the same application.

timborama
Jul 2, 2012, 05:33 PM
Now they just need to put back the Bookmarks app. Huge void not having that available.

koobcamuk
Jul 2, 2012, 05:34 PM
1 years ago

:)

iSimx
Jul 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

It just seems a little confusing for new users who may not realise they should also track their iPad, iPod Touch or Mac through the same application.


agreed, it doesn't make sense anymore keeping it at "Find my iPhone"

kjs862
Jul 2, 2012, 05:38 PM
Apple, please make your maps applications available via iCloud.com!

Jamieserg
Jul 2, 2012, 05:39 PM
Find my iphone powered by google. i wonder how long that will last?

Thunderhawks
Jul 2, 2012, 05:40 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

It just seems a little confusing for new users who may not realise they should also track their iPad, iPod Touch or Mac through the same application.

Yep, the world is just full of problems and thank you for worrying about new users.

It doesn't quite explain what it is for and for an app we use 24/7 it should be made much clearer.

akadmon
Jul 2, 2012, 05:40 PM
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

hspace
Jul 2, 2012, 05:42 PM
So there is still no way of viewing/managing my photo stream on the web?

mactmaster
Jul 2, 2012, 05:43 PM
Nice addition of battery meter on Find My iPhone.

Find My iPhone definitely feels beta. The accuracy is not as good as the current stable version and the textures are off. Not fully baked yet.

Will they be bringing their iOS maps to the web version of Find My iPhone?

jrtc27
Jul 2, 2012, 05:45 PM
The site also has notifications now as previously rumoured and leaked. Currently it's available for Find My iPhone and Calendar, and settings for it can be accessed by clicking on your name to view your profile.

tarasis
Jul 2, 2012, 05:46 PM
Find my iphone powered by google. i wonder how long that will last?

Indeed, I found that curious.

jrtc27
Jul 2, 2012, 05:48 PM
Also try putting in a php script! The web version won't save it, but if you add it on a device and let it sync, the web version displays a spinning progress bar in the place of the title on the left.

ArcaneDevice
Jul 2, 2012, 05:48 PM
The Notes interface looks really cheesy. No wonder Ive hates it.

All it needs is some Comic Sans.

numbersyx
Jul 2, 2012, 05:49 PM
Why is iCal in beta on the web in that shot?

Peace
Jul 2, 2012, 05:49 PM
So there is still no way of viewing/managing my photo stream on the web?

There soon will be.

pubwvj
Jul 2, 2012, 05:54 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Yes, and it should be available for all devices that connect to the internet. e.g., Macs, Airports, iPhones, iPodTouches, iPads, etc. Then Apple needs to get serious about helping stop thieves and stop the reselling and reactivation of stolen merchandise.

As to apps in the cloud, Apple and developers need to learn a lot about graceful fallbacks for when the cloud is not available and for when connection speeds are slow. We need to be able to do our work without a connection to the net.

devilbond
Jul 2, 2012, 05:56 PM
! ! Skeuomorphic ! !

MattInOz
Jul 2, 2012, 05:58 PM
Looks like iCloud SDK for Web Apps will be the headline of next years WWDC.

heisetax
Jul 2, 2012, 05:58 PM
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

Because they are already there. I have over 600 apps on my iPad with close too that on my iPhone & iPod Touch. I very seldom get past the 1st page of apps using Apple's weak app finder. I've gone as far as moving the Apple standard icons off of page 1 & moving them to the end of the list. I don't play games so the Game Center have been moved to the end. I do all of my App syncing through my Mac so the App icon has also been moved to the end. Now I need to move some more. This way may be good for 10 - 50 apps but that is about all. Give me my Mac file system.

My wife takes notes at church using the Notes app on our iPad. I've used it for making shopping lists. A 10 item list for us is very long & seldom done. I also use it for price comparison. Years ago before the Newton I used an HP99 with its built-in spreadsheet program. That worked the best for many things like what I do. All of this advancement in electronic devices & I still like the old pretouch better. But we do have to have our iToys.

LaWally
Jul 2, 2012, 05:58 PM
Syncing notes one a year is not going to work for me.

satyrica
Jul 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
Why is iCal in beta on the web in that shot?

Calendar? 'cause it remains that way as of today on the icloud beta site...

TallManNY
Jul 2, 2012, 06:01 PM
It is the visible stiching in the notepad cover that really lets me know I'm dealing with a piece of quality merchandise. A cheaper cover might use glue to seal the seams, but you know that will split eventually and then your cover will fall apart and your note pad and your reminder slips will be lose and could get exposed to rain or something. A nicely stiched leather notepad cover will keep them all together and organized.

I'm glad I stick with Apple because of their insistance on this level of quality.

kevinneal
Jul 2, 2012, 06:03 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

It just seems a little confusing for new users who may not realise they should also track their iPad, iPod Touch or Mac through the same application.

Its also about time they re-named iTunes :)

Peace
Jul 2, 2012, 06:05 PM
Why is iCal in beta on the web in that shot?

Same reason it's a beta in IOS 6 and Mountain Lion ?

BC2009
Jul 2, 2012, 06:08 PM
Nice addition of battery meter on Find My iPhone.

Find My iPhone definitely feels beta. The accuracy is not as good as the current stable version and the textures are off. Not fully baked yet.

Will they be bringing their iOS maps to the web version of Find My iPhone?

Speaking of "not fully baked", Find My iPhone needs the ability on the device to require a password for:

1) Powering off
2) Putting the device in Airplane Mode

Right now you can lock your "Accounts" under restrictions to prevent changes to iCloud such as turning off "Find my iPhone", but that does not stop the standard shutdown or airplane mode disabling. I wonder if there is any liability in requiring a password to power down a mobile device.

clukas
Jul 2, 2012, 06:08 PM
The new iCloud web apps will be live for all users with the launch of iOS 6, expected this fall.

WHAT? Whats the point waiting for iOS6 when all devices are compatible with it now? This should go live the day Mountain Lion is released!

fentor
Jul 2, 2012, 06:14 PM
Don't see the point of providing a notes app... when Galleries/Photostream, KeyChain, Bookmarks would be infinitely more useful (now MobileMe has passed)... wrong priorities in my view

seanbperiod
Jul 2, 2012, 06:14 PM
Umm.. did no one notice this description?
The add-on gives users with lost gadgets some indication of how long they have to find their device.

Exactly.. "You have 5 hours to find your device" =P

bedifferent
Jul 2, 2012, 06:16 PM
The Notes interface looks really cheesy. No wonder Ive hates it.

All it needs is some Comic Sans.

I agree. Designing the applications to appear as a desk calendar or address book looks off. I prefer "Snow Leopard's" iCal and wish Apple would deviate from this GUI to a uniform, simple architecture.

TennisandMusic
Jul 2, 2012, 06:19 PM
Don't see the point of putting all this work into creating what has already been solved by other companies, including solutions that are completely cross platform. Why? There are so many other things that really need to be worked on by Apple (iWork updates? iLife perhaps? Logic Pro? Etc. Etc. Etc.?)

I seriously do not understand these apps.

jlgolson
Jul 2, 2012, 06:22 PM
Don't see the point of providing a notes app... when Galleries/Photostream, KeyChain, Bookmarks would be infinitely more useful (now MobileMe has passed)... wrong priorities in my viewThey shouldn't upgrade iCloud -- or anything else -- until there is a new Mac Pro.

kalsta
Jul 2, 2012, 06:22 PM
The web version of Find My iPhone has been polished, with a battery status icon as one new feature. The add-on gives users with lost gadgets some indication of how long they have to find their device.

Sounds like a fun game… 98… 99… 100! READY OR NOT SIRI, HERE I COME!

Bubba Satori
Jul 2, 2012, 06:23 PM
It is the visible stiching in the notepad cover that really lets me know I'm dealing with a piece of quality merchandise. A cheaper cover might use glue to seal the seams, but you know that will split eventually and then your cover will fall apart and your note pad and your reminder slips will be lose and could get exposed to rain or something. A nicely stiched leather notepad cover will keep them all together and organized.

I'm glad I stick with Apple because of their insistance on this level of quality.

"Increase customer delight." Glorious day!!!

Gemütlichkeit
Jul 2, 2012, 06:27 PM
I'm waiting for *can only be used by iPhone 7 users.

kalsta
Jul 2, 2012, 06:28 PM
Speaking of "not fully baked", Find My iPhone needs the ability on the device to require a password for:

1) Powering off
2) Putting the device in Airplane Mode

Right now you can lock your "Accounts" under restrictions to prevent changes to iCloud such as turning off "Find my iPhone", but that does not stop the standard shutdown or airplane mode disabling. I wonder if there is any liability in requiring a password to power down a mobile device.

Good point about powering off, but I don't think it's possible to put the device into airplane mode when the phone is locked with a passcode.

hkim1983
Jul 2, 2012, 06:30 PM
It would be great if Apple were ever to produce a full blown notebook app that could be utilized on iOS/OS X and was synchronized through the cloud...

...until then "Notes" is useless to me.

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 06:34 PM
Don't see the point of providing a notes app... when Galleries/Photostream, KeyChain, Bookmarks would be infinitely more useful (now MobileMe has passed)... wrong priorities in my view

Bookmarks is already there. Tabs are coming in ML and iOS 6 already. As for galleries and photo-stream, you have that with iPhoto and Journals. So really all that's missing is keychain.

coolfactor
Jul 2, 2012, 06:37 PM
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

Notes are being viewed by Apple as an essential data type that belongs in iCloud.

I know a couple that enters their shopping lists on their iPad and then grabs their iPhones knowing the list will be there when they arrive at the store. Nothing special for them to do. Achieving the same with a third-party solution would involve the extra step of installing and configuring the app on all devices.

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 06:38 PM
Don't see the point of putting all this work into creating what has already been solved by other companies, including solutions that are completely cross platform. Why? There are so many other things that really need to be worked on by Apple (iWork updates? iLife perhaps? Logic Pro? Etc. Etc. Etc.?)

I seriously do not understand these apps.

Don't you think they have multiple teams working on different projects?

coolfactor
Jul 2, 2012, 06:39 PM
It would be great if Apple were ever to produce a full blown notebook app that could be utilized on iOS/OS X and was synchronized through the cloud...

...until then "Notes" is useless to me.

Isn't that what this is? I'm confused by your stance.

I also view these iCloud apps as a testing ground for Apple to continue to push the boundaries of their own skills, tools and technologies. These web apps are really well designed to the point of not feeling like they are web-based at all. Impressive.

rhett7660
Jul 2, 2012, 06:39 PM
I think it looks pretty slick. Can't wait to try it out!

Soundburst
Jul 2, 2012, 06:44 PM
Can anyone tell me why these are here? Is it for users who don't use their own computer during the day?

Surely there's no need for this is you use your own mac/iPhone/iPad all day as it all syncs.

Is it for folk who use pc's are non-personally-owned mac devices during the day? :)

akadmon
Jul 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
Notes are being viewed by Apple as an essential data type that belongs in iCloud.

I know a couple that enters their shopping lists on their iPad and then grabs their iPhones knowing the list will be there when they arrive at the store. Nothing special for them to do. Achieving the same with a third-party solution would involve the extra step of installing and configuring the app on all devices.

What's wrong with building your shopping list on an iPhone? Nothing, unless you're using Notepad! Then sure, a bigger screen is a plus.

iPhoneApple
Jul 2, 2012, 06:49 PM
Anyone find it odd that Apple isn't using their own maps in Find My iPhone?

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
Anyone find it odd that Apple isn't using their own maps in Find My iPhone?

Probably going to switch it all up when their maps solution is released to the public?

ixodes
Jul 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
How out of touch can the old folks at Apple be?

A 1950's Notebook is the best they can do?

Suddenly Google Tasks, Calendar & Other Apps are looking damn good.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/xtechnologist/NotesReminders.png

Daveoc64
Jul 2, 2012, 06:59 PM
Bookmarks is coming in ML and iOS 6 already. As for galleries and photo-stream, you have that with iPhoto and Journals. So really all that's missing is keychain.

Except when you remember that the vast majority of iOS users don't own or use a Mac.

hkim1983
Jul 2, 2012, 07:05 PM
Isn't that what this is? I'm confused by your stance.

I also view these iCloud apps as a testing ground for Apple to continue to push the boundaries of their own skills, tools and technologies. These web apps are really well designed to the point of not feeling like they are web-based at all. Impressive.

No, actually, it isn't. There is no Apple developed OS X equivalent of "Notes". Notes is also highly restricted in what it can do as a full fledged "notebook" app. I can not insert and take pictures, I can not "scrapbook" various forms of media together to collect my thoughts, brainstorm, or plan out projects, and I can not alter pdf's and highlight/annotate important parts. Oh, but I can make grocery shopping lists, something I can do in a notebook app anyway.

Notes is exactly what it's trying to portray, a yellow notepad. What is really useful though is an actual notebook, and it's a better application of resources to go all in or not go in at all (i.e. focus on other areas).

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 07:06 PM
Except when you remember that the vast majority of iOS users don't own or use a Mac.

You realize there is an iOS version of iPhoto that includes Journals right?

Jasoco
Jul 2, 2012, 07:07 PM
Notes are being viewed by Apple as an essential data type that belongs in iCloud.

I know a couple that enters their shopping lists on their iPad and then grabs their iPhones knowing the list will be there when they arrive at the store. Nothing special for them to do. Achieving the same with a third-party solution would involve the extra step of installing and configuring the app on all devices.Not if the app is designed to use iCloud, which any good app worth its salt needs to start using it. Out of the hundred apps I have, only two use iCloud for syncing data across devices, and both are games. (PocketPlanes, but not TinyTower and League of Evil 2, but not League of Evil.) It's there for a reason. To make it easy as pie to put one device down and pick up another with the data all synced across them, but so many apps don't take advantage of what is literally free data cloud storage. Even ones you'd think would be most obvious to benefit (Like games like Angry Birds or Bejeweled or other apps.) haven't even made an effort to try and use it even though it's been available for a year.

lazyrighteye
Jul 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mr. Golson earns a gold star for implementing "skeuomorphic" in his write-up.
Well played, sir.

JayLenochiniMac
Jul 2, 2012, 07:11 PM
That's nice, but what iCloud really needs is a real iDisk replacement.

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 07:15 PM
That's nice, but what iCloud really needs is a real iDisk replacement.

It's called Dropbox. ;)

But seriously, if they can get the iWork suite to work seamlessly between iOS and OS X then much of iDisk's work is no longer needed. Sure you can't sync other program files or archives, but nothing is stopping third-party developers from integrating into iCloud.

rdlink
Jul 2, 2012, 07:17 PM
Apple,

No offense but, since I work in an enterprise environment that is Windows/Office/Exchange based, (unfortunately) my contacts and calendar are handled on my iPhone via Exchange. So I have no need for calendar or contacts in iCloud. And since you won't let me route my personal owned domain through iCloud email (a la Google Apps) and I refuse to have an email account that ends in .me, I have no need for your iCloud email. And this is true for MOST iOS users, and a very large percentage of Mac users.

Believe me, if you'd let me do with my personal domain email what Google does I would switch in about ten seconds.

But what I really want, what I really, really want, is the ability to manage and view my photo streams on the iCloud web interface.

But I'm not too upset, because me thinks you're really close to doing it...

AidenShaw
Jul 2, 2012, 07:19 PM
That's nice, but what iCloud really needs is a real iDisk replacement.

Or a connector to Dropbox or Skydrive or one of the other providers that actually comprehend what "cloud storage" means.

wizard
Jul 2, 2012, 07:30 PM
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

I actually like notes, it is a good place to keep track of my operating notes to my self at work. The only thing that Id really like is that ability to enter lists from within the notes app.

JayLenochiniMac
Jul 2, 2012, 07:31 PM
It's called Dropbox. ;)

But seriously, if they can get the iWork suite to work seamlessly between iOS and OS X then much of iDisk's work is no longer needed. Sure you can't sync other program files or archives, but nothing is stopping third-party developers from integrating into iCloud.

There's no reason why they can't enable Documents in the Cloud to sync all file types.

Daveoc64
Jul 2, 2012, 07:33 PM
You realize there is an iOS version of iPhoto that includes Journals right?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's visible on their computer (i.e. the point of putting it on the web page that this thread is talking about).

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 07:44 PM
There's no reason why they can't enable Documents in the Cloud to sync all file types.

Granted but the more important question is why should they host files types for Apps they don't make? Wouldn't it make more sense from Apple's perspective to let those people host their own files, or at a minimum integrate into iCloud?

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Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's visible on their computer (i.e. the point of putting it on the web page that this thread is talking about).

I don't think you understand how Journals works. The point is you can share photos by syncing them up to iCloud and you can share a link for other people to go and see on any computer. It's sorta like, um, Galleries.

Daveoc64
Jul 2, 2012, 07:48 PM
I don't think you understand how Journals works. The point is you can share photos by syncing them up to iCloud and you can share a link for other people to go and see on any computer. It's sorta like, um, Galleries.

If it's not two button presses in the Photos app, it's not as good as MobileMe Gallery.

As much bad press as MobileMe got, they dropped all of the stable features with iCloud.

Wurm5150
Jul 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
They need to replace Forstall and his taste for fake leather, linen, skeumorphic crap.. iOS UI isn't fitting well with Jony Ive's design..

Gjwilly
Jul 2, 2012, 07:51 PM
Anyone find it odd that Apple isn't using their own maps in Find My iPhone?

In the beta version for iOS6 they are already using their own maps.

charlituna
Jul 2, 2012, 08:03 PM
Don't see the point of providing a notes app... when Galleries/Photostream, KeyChain, Bookmarks would be infinitely more useful (now MobileMe has passed)... wrong priorities in my view

To you perhaps but that doesn't mean the majority feels the same way

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You realize there is an iOS version of iPhoto that includes Journals right?

More to the point at the moment it is exclusively in iPhoto for iOS

Also there will be sharing in photo stream with iOS 6

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[QUOTE=rdlink;15173385]. And this is true for MOST iOS users, and a very large percentage of Mac users.
[ /QUOTE]

And exactly how many users did you talk to for that 'fact'

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 08:14 PM
More to the point at the moment it is exclusively in iPhoto for iOS

Also there will be sharing in photo stream with iOS 6

Right, so if we don't see an update to iPhoto with ML when it adds in more iOSification, then there will be grounds for complaint.

Peace
Jul 2, 2012, 08:19 PM
Right, so if we don't see an update to iPhoto with ML when it adds in more iOSification, then there will be grounds for complaint.

Correct.

I can see an update to the iWork desktop apps with the release of Mountain Lion or maybe even a beta version for devs. They did that once before.

JohnDoe98
Jul 2, 2012, 08:25 PM
Correct.

I can see an update to the iWork desktop apps with the release of Mountain Lion or maybe even a beta version for devs. They did that once before.

I do see them doing an iWork release. I don't see them doing the beta for devs first. They sold many of us the Retina display with advertisements saying that most Apple software was Retina ready and the rest was coming soon. I do expect them to deliver on that promise. 2 months or more to wait for Retina on the iWork suite would not be acceptable to me, and I imagine I wouldn't be the only one to complain. Now if they did a small update to the old suite adding in Retina and released a new iWork beta, that would work. But why would they go through all that trouble?

I'm betting they are just working on a 64bit Retina rdy version of iWork that will be released "soon", as promised.

jkish2
Jul 2, 2012, 08:27 PM
.

GoodScout
Jul 2, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dear Apple:

Bento.
Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento. Bento.

Bento. Bento. Bento.

That is all. Thank you.

kycophpd
Jul 2, 2012, 08:34 PM
I have seen one addition that I don't think I have seen before. When adding a new event, it gave me the option to add an attachment.

ThunderSkunk
Jul 2, 2012, 08:58 PM
Looking forward to finally seeing this functionality completed.

Agreed though, these graphics are looking unnecessarily clunky and dated.

dra
Jul 2, 2012, 09:08 PM
just take my money :) o its now free :)

AidenShaw
Jul 2, 2012, 09:10 PM
Looking forward to finally seeing this functionality completed.

Agreed though, these graphics are looking unnecessarily clunky and dated.

Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?

autrefois
Jul 2, 2012, 09:13 PM
You realize there is an iOS version of iPhoto that includes Journals right?

Didn't know about journals actually, thanks for mentioning this. Been exploring new features since switching over to iCloud this weekend.

While it seems to have a number of fun options, journals still seem pretty limited though, in particular since you can't create or edit them on a PC (Mac, Windows, or otherwise) and you also cannot apparently easily save them to your computer via "Save as a PDF" or saving as a .webarchive in Safari.

As a long-time Apple consumer, I'd like to give Apple the benefit of the doubt and think they would turn this into something more versatile as time goes on. But considering Apple's recent elimination of MobileMe (with its Galleries and web storage via iDisk) and impending elimination of iWork.com (all showing that Apple web services do not necessarily last for the long haul), it would be nice to be able to easily save journals somewhere just in case...

Starship77
Jul 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
I have over 600 apps on my iPad with close too that on my iPhone & iPod Touch.

Whyyyyyyyy?????????????????????????????


:D:D

MacAddict1978
Jul 2, 2012, 09:35 PM
wow looks great! :D

Minus that they took the ugly of iCal and put it on notes. With the mass dislike and expression of it, I'd hoped they'd change iCal in Mt. Lion, not add it to other features. :(

MattInOz
Jul 2, 2012, 09:38 PM
Granted but the more important question is why should they host files types for Apps they don't make? Wouldn't it make more sense from Apple's perspective to let those people host their own files, or at a minimum integrate into iCloud?

They aren't hosting the developer's files, they're hosting the User's files the developers have produced on our behaves.

It would still make sense for Apple to commit to syncing between my personnel devices, to me this is a limited function that a single system could be built to suit 80+% of users. Where as sharing between users is something that needs to happen in so many different ways that no one system is every likely to suit all uses even for a single user.

On this second point Apple still needs to do some work, so that services like Dropbox can be on the device and sandboxed but still host files on behave of other apps.

Spit-fire
Jul 2, 2012, 09:46 PM
For a company that's cool with design, that Notes icon and layout is so outdated and ugly.

It's up there with that stupid flower icon for Photos (why can't we make our own simply from our photographs?) and the teared off paper in iCal.

Cute once. Old now.

End of rant.

monaarts
Jul 2, 2012, 10:06 PM
How out of touch can the old folks at Apple be?

A 1950's Notebook is the best they can do?

Suddenly Google Tasks, Calendar & Other Apps are looking damn good.

Image (http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/xtechnologist/NotesReminders.png)


I think Apple is stepping out of the box and trying to make all apps look as if they aren't virtual (the old book design with leather and stitching, the Game Center board looking like a poker table, etc). I give them credit because once everything is intertwined with iOS and OSX, it gives us a better feel of quality software. Everyone else is going for the 'Minority Report' look... BLAH!

QCassidy352
Jul 2, 2012, 10:07 PM
How out of touch can the old folks at Apple be?

A 1950's Notebook is the best they can do?

Suddenly Google Tasks, Calendar & Other Apps are looking damn good.

Image (http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/xtechnologist/NotesReminders.png)

I think it looks great. What do you want, an image of a robot butler holding a virtual screen?

Hastings101
Jul 2, 2012, 10:18 PM
If Apple got rid of the silly sleeve in front of the list of notes they could fit another item on there and someone somewhere wouldn't have to scroll down just to see one little item.

buddhistMonkey
Jul 2, 2012, 10:24 PM
No, actually, it isn't. There is no Apple developed OS X equivalent of "Notes". Notes is also highly restricted in what it can do as a full fledged "notebook" app. I can not insert and take pictures...

Actually, it is. A Notes app for OS X is coming later this month with the release of Mountain Lion, and it will let you add pictures and attachments:

"Notes is designed for whatever’s on your mind, wherever you happen to be. Think it up. Jot it down. Make it even more noteworthy with photos, images, and attachments. You can add, delete, and flip through your notes or do a quick search. Use the Share button to send your notes with Mail or Messages. Pin important notes to your desktop so they’re easy to get to. And take them with you everywhere. Notes works with iCloud, so when you create or edit a note on your Mac, it automatically updates on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. And vice versa."

http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/

nunes013
Jul 2, 2012, 10:30 PM
i feel like Apple plans on adding a lot to iCloud hence one reason why they are building two new data centers on top of the NC one. I see photo stream being added and eventually possibly iBooks, Find my Friends, and maybe even Maps all to the iCloud site.

It would also be cool if iTunes Match does actually stream in iOS 6 and they added in a way to see your music from a web app in iCloud like if i was on someone elses computer and then stream it from there. steve did say during WWDC 2011 he didn't like the web apps idea for music but i think it would be a nice complement to iTunes.

Kwill
Jul 2, 2012, 11:01 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

…or call it "Finders Keepers" (after the remote wipe) :D

Battlefield Fan
Jul 2, 2012, 11:22 PM
Speaking of "not fully baked", Find My iPhone needs the ability on the device to require a password for:

1) Powering off
2) Putting the device in Airplane Mode

Right now you can lock your "Accounts" under restrictions to prevent changes to iCloud such as turning off "Find my iPhone", but that does not stop the standard shutdown or airplane mode disabling. I wonder if there is any liability in requiring a password to power down a mobile device.

yes!!! This is needed.

toronado455
Jul 2, 2012, 11:26 PM
1 years ago
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BvizioN
Jul 3, 2012, 12:19 AM
Speaking of "not fully baked", Find My iPhone needs the ability on the device to require a password for:

1) Powering off
2) Putting the device in Airplane Mode

Right now you can lock your "Accounts" under restrictions to prevent changes to iCloud such as turning off "Find my iPhone", but that does not stop the standard shutdown or airplane mode disabling. I wonder if there is any liability in requiring a password to power down a mobile device.

Though i totally agree with you, i wonder what good that would be if the sim card can easy be removed from the phone? Leaving the phone OFF line out of wifi range.

ahaaja
Jul 3, 2012, 01:04 AM
"The add-on gives users with lost gadgets some indication of how long they have to find their device."

You mean users have to search for their device being a certain length in order to find it? Or did you mean "how long time they have left to find their device"? ;-)

HOMBRESINIESTRO
Jul 3, 2012, 01:10 AM
Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?

One is missing: iTools - big hype, now gone.

tatonka
Jul 3, 2012, 01:32 AM
Yes, and it should be available for all devices that connect to the internet. e.g., Macs, Airports, iPhones, iPodTouches, iPads, etc. Then Apple needs to get serious about helping stop thieves and stop the reselling and reactivation of stolen merchandise.


Not sure Airports are a big target, but all other devices work with Find my iPhone already. Besides the regular success stories .. I am not sure it is such a big security plus having this activated.

MacDav
Jul 3, 2012, 02:21 AM
Its also about time they re-named iTunes :)

iTunes is at this point almost a generic name for music. When a singer or band
promotes their album on a talk show or other music show the host will almost
always say "You can get this Album on iTunes. It would be crazy to re-name iTunes. I know it's got so much other stuff under the same roof that it gets a little crazy. Just don't think they will ever rename it other than maybe call it
iTunes Music/Movies/Books/Podcasts and whatever else you can think of. What
they might do is create some additional stores. Nah. I don't think so. :confused:

lostngone
Jul 3, 2012, 02:29 AM
Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?

I have to agree... They are taking away iWork.com and giving us iCloud "notes" and "reminders"?!?

I should have Apple clearance removed for my disloyal comments but...

Come on, iCloud is a step backwards as far as features go.

Mr. Gates
Jul 3, 2012, 02:37 AM
error

jamesvdm
Jul 3, 2012, 02:38 AM
All this skeuomorphism is really nice to see and use.

I realise that's an unpopular opinion but surely I'm not the only person to like it?

SBlue1
Jul 3, 2012, 03:32 AM
Looks promising, wondering what is next?

blow45
Jul 3, 2012, 03:38 AM
wow, how exciting...:rolleyes:

btw, these two apps have got to be two of the least inspired apps in terms of ui design, and that's putting it very mildly...

mplatvoet
Jul 3, 2012, 03:55 AM
Wondering if Apple is planning on opening things up on iCloud: Let third party developers create Apps. That would really add to the overall 'everything is in the cloud' experience.

Pock
Jul 3, 2012, 04:01 AM
Notes are being viewed by Apple as an essential data type that belongs in iCloud.

I know a couple that enters their shopping lists on their iPad and then grabs their iPhones knowing the list will be there when they arrive at the store. Nothing special for them to do. Achieving the same with a third-party solution would involve the extra step of installing and configuring the app on all devices.

Completely agree, notes is a simple and useful app that I would find difficult to do without.

I use notes for shopping, work hours, my training plan, list of bills, etc. All in one convenient place without having to worry about formatting, and synced across all my devices and soon to be available on an browser. Perfect.

baryon
Jul 3, 2012, 04:23 AM
I'd use iCloud if it didn't prevent USB syncing. I have a 2nd Gen iPod Touch which doesn't support iCloud, so enabling iCloud will block USB syncing of Calendars for example, and since it doesn't sync on iCloud either, it just doesn't sync altogether. Turning iCloud off results in the deletion of the entire Calendar, and restoring it from Time Machine also restores iCloud syncing.

Apple didn't think this through!

Bezetos
Jul 3, 2012, 04:36 AM
With more than 125 million iCloud users as of April, it's unsurprising that the company is focusing so much effort on the service -- both on iOS and the Web.

The problem here is that this number is quite bloated. There are a lot of people who are "iCloud users" and are not even aware of it, they've simply created an iCloud account whilst setting up their phone and are not using properly it afterwards since they forgot about it.

It's good that Apple is working on improving this service because it will consequently raise awareness as well, i.e. what you can do with this service other than backing up your contacts.

comatory
Jul 3, 2012, 04:54 AM
I'd use iCloud if it didn't prevent USB syncing. I have a 2nd Gen iPod Touch which doesn't support iCloud, so enabling iCloud will block USB syncing of Calendars for example, and since it doesn't sync on iCloud either, it just doesn't sync altogether. Turning iCloud off results in the deletion of the entire Calendar, and restoring it from Time Machine also restores iCloud syncing.

Apple didn't think this through!

In your case I'd forget USB syncing and just use wi-fi syncing if it's possible, or even IMAP or Exchange for calendar syncing via internet.

Skika
Jul 3, 2012, 05:32 AM
The problem here is that this number is quite bloated. There are a lot of people who are "iCloud users" and are not even aware of it, they've simply created an iCloud account whilst setting up their phone and are not using properly it afterwards since they forgot about it.

It's good that Apple is working on improving this service because it will consequently raise awareness as well, i.e. what you can do with this service other than backing up your contacts.

And that is the best thing about the iCloud. It syncs/works your stuff between devices without you thinking about it. It is the main philosophy behind it.

macducky
Jul 3, 2012, 06:11 AM
Completely agree, notes is a simple and useful app that I would find difficult to do without.

I use notes for shopping, work hours, my training plan, list of bills, etc. All in one convenient place without having to worry about formatting, and synced across all my devices and soon to be available on an browser. Perfect.

I love my iPad and iPhone...I too have been waiting for notes to come to OSX and reminders to be removed from iCal...

But both are USELESS without two simple fixes:
- give both the ability to organize notes/reminders into "folders" (alla "home" / "work" etc)
- make use of a checkbox system that allows list items to be checked off!!! (and use checklists inside individual notes (margin))
...and while you are at it make them easy to order each line manually / alphabetically!!!!

SIMPLE fixes!!!! More users!!!! 😳

jennyp
Jul 3, 2012, 06:29 AM
There is no Apple developed OS X equivalent of "Notes".

But there will be in Mountain Lion.. with images and attachments.. (which will be enough for me at least to ditch Evernote).. Or did I misunderstand your comment?

randomnut
Jul 3, 2012, 06:49 AM
I wish they would focus their efforts on making what they have better rather than trying to add new features.

iCloud mail needs an overhaul. It's clunky, horribly slow and seems almost from the 90s.

Whilst there's a lot wrong with GMail it is miles better than iCloud mail and they have a lot to learn.

cryingrobot
Jul 3, 2012, 07:08 AM
Every 4th or 5th post refers to this but its worth repeating. Without a replacement for idisk, icloud is just a synching service. The absence of real cloud storage is really really glaring and odd.

Piggie
Jul 3, 2012, 07:20 AM
I will admit, some of the comments in this thread do ring a few bells with me.

Ever since buying the iPad 1, so I have seen it all change over the years, it did seem, and still does in some aspects.
Like many of the official apps were made my totally different teams with totally different graphic designers, in some ways with totally different touch control methods.

Rather than a totally consistent look, feel and may us using some of Apple's own official apps, it's almost like there are 3rd party apps made by totally different people.

I will admit to being a bit puzzled, as I would of thought they would of wanted to present a consistent "look and feel" to all their own official apps.

Almost like the different teams who wrote the different official apps were all shut away in rooms, not allowed to see what the others were doing, and it was all thrown together when they were done.

Does seem strange.

Konrad
Jul 3, 2012, 07:41 AM
It is hard to disagree with the critics of the retarded faux leather, the imbecile stitching, and the idiot "antique" look of the ripped pages in iCal. I was near puking once Lion changed the Address Book to this cheap wall mart wallet design. WTF Apple, these apps are often used in the business environment!

Bezetos
Jul 3, 2012, 07:49 AM
And that is the best thing about the iCloud. It syncs/works your stuff between devices without you thinking about it. It is the main philosophy behind it.

Oh spare me this marketing talk.

The fact that people are not aware of it is a problem. They don't know how to use it to its full potential. All you get after your initial phone setup is synced contacts, calendar (although you have to set it up on your computer if you want it synced), reminders and notes. You have to set up e.g. photo stream, backups, separately. Bear in mind that I'm talking here about people who own only one iOS device, so things like iBook page sync don't really work for them. That's why web based access to these things is a big improvement.

And that "philosophy" behind it applies to every other cloud-based technology.

powers74
Jul 3, 2012, 07:55 AM
Sweet!!


Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

Between notes and reminders I never use 2Do anymore. I do use a grocery app though.

davedee65
Jul 3, 2012, 08:06 AM
I have to admit as a designer I am beginning to struggle with the direction Apple seems to be intent on following re it's iOS apps GUI. I think they would do well to read this article:

http://imagemechanics.com.au/#!/blog/2011/its-time-to-send-the-metaphor-to-the-trash-can/

D

Radio
Jul 3, 2012, 08:18 AM
Nice addition of battery meter on Find My iPhone.

Find My iPhone definitely feels beta. The accuracy is not as good as the current stable version and the textures are off. Not fully baked yet.

Will they be bringing their iOS maps to the web version of Find My iPhone?

iCloud does feels beta

Love my apple devices but I can't lie..iCloud is weak sauce

No storage no better organization etc

Honestly im getting jealous of the innovations of googles android OS.

Come on apple please be competitive! I've invested too much in your ecosystem

aduteau
Jul 3, 2012, 08:21 AM
I wonder if Apple will ever include a web version of iMessage for iCloud .....

Dionte
Jul 3, 2012, 08:24 AM
Yah it let me sign in even though my account expired on the 6th.

Gemütlichkeit
Jul 3, 2012, 08:29 AM
The next big thing I want to see from apple is an online iwork setup similar to google docs. pages/numbers/keynote from a browser even if simplified

jonnysods
Jul 3, 2012, 08:51 AM
Interesting to see Google Maps in those screenshots

rainydays
Jul 3, 2012, 09:10 AM
Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?

The way I see it, these (along with iTools) are essentially the same service in different packages. They haven't been a huge success that's for sure, but to be fair Apple was very early into the game and cloud based services hasn't started to take off into the mainstream until fairly recently.

bushido
Jul 3, 2012, 09:27 AM
they need to put the "GameCenter" in the cloud as in ... let the game scores be saved in the cloud. this way the Gamecenter is at least of some use ^^

JayLenochiniMac
Jul 3, 2012, 09:29 AM
Apple says it is using iCloud to "increase customer delight".

Then come out with a real replacement for iDisk.

Sackvillenb
Jul 3, 2012, 09:34 AM
Well, although these are simple, and obvious, and overdue additions to iCloud.com, they are still useful. Everyone complaining about how "useless" notes is needs to take a chill-pill. Notes is a dead simple app, and as a result, it has it's uses. I use other apps when I need more functionality (e.g. evernote), but for a simple list, or for "scribbling" something down really quickly, notes is great. While I do agree that apple could be putting more energy into iWork, logic, etc., I doubt the investment of time and energy into implementing these new iCloud features was very much.

mrial
Jul 3, 2012, 09:41 AM
Why would anyone use Notepad instead of a piece of paper or lists? :confused: There are dedicated apps, like Grocery IQ, that are infinitely more usefull for that kind of stuff.

Why just yesterday I was on the floor trying to find the model number of my dryer for a part ... couldn't find a piece of paper and pencil but I still had my iPhone handy with Notepad! Notepad is a quick load and easy. Grocery IQ works well now they've updated it to back before they updated it.

Canubis
Jul 3, 2012, 09:42 AM
I really appreciate that Apple found the way back to making their webservice fully integrated into their other products not just by functionality but also by price. So that they are really just another feature of the Hardware product you already paid for. Makes it accessible to many more users, though I never minded paying for the .mac/me services all the recent years.

However, after switching from me to icloud really last minute last week, it all feels a bit like unfinished business. The transition worked fine, but I am really missing feature which have been essential to me. And which make iCloud not feel like a successor to MobileMe, instead rather like its predecessor.

And I mean this not just by functionality (why is stuff like mailbox, rules, keychain sync not part of Apple's advanced cloud strategy, why did they kill the comparably well featured MM galleries to come up with the plain Photostream and now Shared Photostream,....). I am also talking about design. While some may think of all the ultra-realistic styles for Addressbook, Calendar, Notes as super fancy they actually don't seem to have anything to do with the simple and functionality based design many of us are used by Apple for decades. It seems like they totally trashed their famous design guidelines and this nightmare obviously may continue for their other platforms too.
While it may be true and good, to use metaphors in user interface design that people already know, how many users of Apple's main target group actually still know, how a realy calendar, a real addressbook or a folder-bounded notepad looks and works like. Me myself, I havn't used any of them for ages. I already grew up with digital counterparts and I am not the youngest anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I am very open minded to all the fancy stuff, but still design should be functions based, then form follows.

somethingelsefl
Jul 3, 2012, 09:43 AM
It is the visible stiching in the notepad cover that really lets me know I'm dealing with a piece of quality merchandise. A cheaper cover might use glue to seal the seams, but you know that will split eventually and then your cover will fall apart and your note pad and your reminder slips will be lose and could get exposed to rain or something. A nicely stiched leather notepad cover will keep them all together and organized.


You know that Jonathan Ives himself has said that he dislikes that the "faux leather" treatment that Apple is putting on all of it's apps because it contradicts the simplicity the of devices they run on, right?

ominx
Jul 3, 2012, 09:43 AM
If you look at the page source you will notice Apple is hosting files on their server under the folder "system/cloudos" and making references to CloudOS.

Could be nothing, or could be a sign there is a lot more room to grow with iCloud.

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Dionte
Jul 3, 2012, 10:02 AM
I wish they would focus their efforts on making what they have better rather than trying to add new features.

iCloud mail needs an overhaul. It's clunky, horribly slow and seems almost from the 90s.

Whilst there's a lot wrong with GMail it is miles better than iCloud mail and they have a lot to learn.

That's true, it is really slow, would be nice if they could speed it up.

clcnyc
Jul 3, 2012, 10:07 AM
I thought this was also going to be part of the revamped iCloud website? No?

Piggie
Jul 3, 2012, 10:53 AM
It is hard to disagree with the critics of the retarded faux leather, the imbecile stitching, and the idiot "antique" look of the ripped pages in iCal. I was near puking once Lion changed the Address Book to this cheap wall mart wallet design. WTF Apple, these apps are often used in the business environment!

This is indeed very true.

Ok, so you can get away with it for the "typical consumer" who likes things that may look like a leather wallet, or a pad of paper, but it's hardly a 2012 crisp, clean and, as you quite rightly say, Business thing.

Can you imagine working in Word or Excel with leather stitching etc etc.

I mean Microsoft had gimmicky things way way back with the paperclip to give you help, but at least you could turn it off.

I could offer a suggestion to Apple and that would be to give the option of "Skins" to some of it's apps, so you could have leather stitching if you really wanted it, or select a more clean and modern, business like look to the apps

BJMRamage
Jul 3, 2012, 11:06 AM
I love my iPad and iPhone...I too have been waiting for notes to come to OSX and reminders to be removed from iCal...

But both are USELESS without two simple fixes:
- give both the ability to organize notes/reminders into "folders" (alla "home" / "work" etc)
- make use of a checkbox system that allows list items to be checked off!!! (and use checklists inside individual notes (margin))
...and while you are at it make them easy to order each line manually / alphabetically!!!!

SIMPLE fixes!!!! More users!!!! 😳


I wish I could reorder my Reminders when I create a grocery list. Sometimes I add to it in random order but then want it ordered by section...putting all produce in one spot and all diary/cold in order.

And it would be nice for Reminders/or some app to be able to make a list, check off items but have them go to a completed list with the same name...not a general completed list.
(I am thinking of invites, and having a list of names and if they are coming so I can do a quick glance to see who's rsvp'd

TallManNY
Jul 3, 2012, 11:14 AM
You know that Jonathan Ives himself has said that he dislikes that the "faux leather" treatment that Apple is putting on all of it's apps because it contradicts the simplicity the of devices they run on, right?

Yes, I know this. I hope it was pretty obvious that I dislike it as well. It doesn't seem to match anything that Apple is doing hardware-wise. It doesn't match most of the operating system either. It is just weird.

baryon
Jul 3, 2012, 11:51 AM
In your case I'd forget USB syncing and just use wi-fi syncing if it's possible, or even IMAP or Exchange for calendar syncing via internet.

Nope, my iPod doesn't support it, plus I don't have WiFi! So does USB sync for calendars work when iCal is set to use iCloud?

theelysium
Jul 3, 2012, 12:13 PM
Screw this crap.. give us back our iDisk and Galleries!

SBlue1
Jul 3, 2012, 01:34 PM
I personally like the torn pages looks. It looks like you are having a real notepad or calender in your hands. I dont understand people who hate this. Yes its not needed, so what? Do you prefer a green monochrome kind of look so it would feel more technical?

Fwink!
Jul 3, 2012, 03:44 PM
Not wise to brand the Apple screenshots with your own logo. Goes directly against Apple's use policy.

I suggest a angled and more faded watermark so as not to suggest that the images are created by sponsored or branded by macrumors.

RobertMartens
Jul 3, 2012, 07:23 PM
Seriously, how could anyone trust Apple with cloud data/apps?

Mac.com - big hype, now gone.
me.com - big hype, now gone.
mobileme - big hype, now gone.
iwork.com - big hype, nearly gone.

See the pattern?

I got one.
Original iMac - now gone
Lampshade iMac - now gone
White iMac - Now gone

See the pattern? Yes you do

gmanist1000
Jul 3, 2012, 08:45 PM
Looks good. Still waiting to see Find my Friends on the site.

ThisIsNotMe
Jul 3, 2012, 09:10 PM
Get back to me when they have a proper replacement for Gallery that is integrated with iPhoto (desktop).

I don't like having to keep telling my parents they have to use Facebook when they have no interest in using Facebook.

iAmYou
Jul 3, 2012, 09:31 PM
Isn't it about time 'Find my iPhone' was renamed?

Seen as though it doesn't just 'find iPhones' anymore, a more fitting name could be 'Find my Device'.

It just seems a little confusing for new users who may not realise they should also track their iPad, iPod Touch or Mac through the same application.

They should... And they could call it.
iFoundIt

AidenShaw
Jul 3, 2012, 09:43 PM
I got one.
Original iMac - now gone
Lampshade iMac - now gone
White iMac - Now gone

See the pattern? Yes you do

Completely wrong....

- original Imac - still runs fine, and does everything that it did when you bought it

- lampshade Imac - still runs fine, and does everything that it did when you bought it

- white (PPC) Imac - still runs fine, and does everything that it did when you bought it

vs.

- mac.com - gone

- me.com - gone

- mobileme - gone

- iwork.com - almost gone

JarScott
Jul 4, 2012, 01:44 AM
Anyone else find that the notes app doesn't work in beta? Mine tells me it cannot save or delete notes.

DF0
Jul 6, 2012, 05:01 AM
There is something on the Notes-Screenshot that puzzles me? What the heck is "Muenster 1/2 lb"?!? Is that meat or cheese...or what?

I'm from Germany and the next city here is called "Muenster", and that name comes from church-steeple.

rhett7660
Jul 6, 2012, 09:56 AM
Then come out with a real replacement for iDisk.

They do need a replacement, but come on iDisk was freaking horrible and slow as hell.