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epicmar
Jul 10, 2012, 11:53 AM
I moved over 1000 files from GoodReader to iAnnotate several months ago - now over 1500 files. I really liked iAnnotate's split window library view with the ability to drag and drop files. I also like the tagging and search capabilities. The web interface works well if you routinely download PDFs from a bunch of different websites. The cloud support has left a lot to be desired. Now with their recent update they have eliminated the split window library view and the drag and drop. They have not enhanced the search-its great that it can search content, but with no way to limit or organize search results it becomes less useful when searching 1500 files and you get 75 hits. They have not kept up with GoodReader which now has almost notetaking app handwriting functionality.

Should I switch back to GoodReader or is PDF Expert (which I don't own yet) the way to go or another app? What do you think are the strengths of GoodReader or PDF Expert over iAnnotate or their strengths in general?

Thanks



palpatine
Jul 10, 2012, 03:03 PM
It depends on your use case. I have all three, but generally prefer iAnnotate.

jojoba
Jul 10, 2012, 03:49 PM
I'm also annoyed by iAnnotate's latest update. I have that and PDF Expert, and while I initially preferred the latter because iAnnotate's IU used to be much worse, I now generally find iAnnotate better, partially just because they allow for vertical scrolling (I scroll through documents a lot), but also because I've started using more of their features (they generally have more options than PDF Expert, at least last time I looked at PDF Expert). PDF Expert doesn't do tabs, tags, vertical scrolling or set/return to mark, for example.

I have also had GoodReader for a long time but haven't really used it. I tested it out a bit a few weeks ago and was quite impressed. I like their hand writing option.

rockgalmusic
Jul 11, 2012, 05:23 AM
Hmmmn - iAnnotate, GoodReader and pdf expert are often mentioned for pdf viewing, organizing and editing etc
personally i use a different app called writepdf
the main reason why i mention this one, is when you are searching for a keyword it will come up with a list of clickable links which take you straight to the pdf file and as i also deal with a quite a few pdf files this is essential for my sanity!
also in the top pane you can view all your pdf files so its good for organization
it's not difficult to use either
worth a try?

Readdlemate
Jul 11, 2012, 06:12 AM
I'm also annoyed by iAnnotate's latest update. I have that and PDF Expert, and while I initially preferred the latter because iAnnotate's IU used to be much worse, I now generally find iAnnotate better, partially just because they allow for vertical scrolling (I scroll through documents a lot), but also because I've started using more of their features (they generally have more options than PDF Expert, at least last time I looked at PDF Expert). PDF Expert doesn't do tabs, tags, vertical scrolling or set/return to mark, for example.

I have also had GoodReader for a long time but haven't really used it. I tested it out a bit a few weeks ago and was quite impressed. I like their hand writing option.

Sorry, but PDF Expert does support vertical scrolling. Just go to "Settings" -> "PDF Viewer" and chose the type of scrolling you like.

There is a very simple reason for not doing tabs - it will ruin the whole user experience and interface. We do have "Recent" tap with the last 5 documents you have viewed (so you can quickly jump between those).

epicmar
Jul 12, 2012, 12:38 AM
Hmmmn - iAnnotate, GoodReader and pdf expert are often mentioned for pdf viewing, organizing and editing etc
personally i use a different app called writepdf
the main reason why i mention this one, is when you are searching for a keyword it will come up with a list of clickable links which take you straight to the pdf file and as i also deal with a quite a few pdf files this is essential for my sanity!
also in the top pane you can view all your pdf files so its good for organization
it's not difficult to use either
worth a try?

I also have WritePDF and think it has a lot of potential. However, it's handwriting annotation is very weak. I can't get the search file content feature to get any search hits searching multiple files. The same search will get hits when I have a file open.

I am still stuck between iAnnotate and GoodReader as no one has said enough to conclude that PDF Expert is a better app :(

mrrish
Jul 12, 2012, 06:37 PM
I have all three. PDF Expert has excellent file management and that is why I am sold on it. All the tools you need are there, and in a clean, unobtrusive manner. Works with all major file syncing services.

At the moment though, the app's annotations are in the crapper. Lots of crashes with the thin pen tools in particular. This has been going on for about 2 months (with no update). I still use it despite this because of the file management.

I'd say wait for the next update, and then try PDF Expert. It is $10, and if you think your productivity runs the benefit of being improved, then $10 is not that much money.

epicmar
Jul 12, 2012, 09:25 PM
I have all three. PDF Expert has excellent file management and that is why I am sold on it. All the tools you need are there, and in a clean, unobtrusive manner. Works with all major file syncing services.

At the moment though, the app's annotations are in the crapper. Lots of crashes with the thin pen tools in particular. This has been going on for about 2 months (with no update). I still use it despite this because of the file management.

I'd say wait for the next update, and then try PDF Expert. It is $10, and if you think your productivity runs the benefit of being improved, then $10 is not that much money.

Thanks for the information and your opinion. I don't have a problem with spending $10 if it is reasonably likely to be a better app than iAnnotate or GoodReader or WritePDF - all of which have some pretty good strong points. I will take your advice and wait until the next update to purchase PDF Expert.

shyam09
Jul 12, 2012, 11:19 PM
personally i prefer the vertical scrolling of iAnnotate to PDF Expert- but i agree. wait for the update to see if its worth it :)

Readdlemate
Jul 16, 2012, 06:06 AM
Thanks for the information and your opinion. I don't have a problem with spending $10 if it is reasonably likely to be a better app than iAnnotate or GoodReader or WritePDF - all of which have some pretty good strong points. I will take your advice and wait until the next update to purchase PDF Expert.

The update for PDF Expert is coming out this weekend! Stay tuned guys, I'll keep you posted!

dcollinz
Jul 21, 2012, 11:55 PM
I've been looking at iAnnotate and PDF Expert -- my one challenge with iAnnotate is it does not appear that you can delete annotations after you exit annotation mode. I've tried a number of times, but once I exit and the reenter annotation mode, I can only erase annotations made during that annotation session. Once closed, I cannot find a way to erase. Am I missing something here??

DC

epicmar
Jul 22, 2012, 01:50 PM
I've been looking at iAnnotate and PDF Expert -- my one challenge with iAnnotate is it does not appear that you can delete annotations after you exit annotation mode. I've tried a number of times, but once I exit and the reenter annotation mode, I can only erase annotations made during that annotation session. Once closed, I cannot find a way to erase. Am I missing something here??

DC

You should be able to erase annotations by tapping on the annotation which brings up the annotation menu with an option to "Delete." If you are talking about handwriting annotations, you can only erase/delete the entire annotation. GoodReader has recently added the ability to selectively erase a portion of handwriting annotation after you close an annotation session.

mrrish
Jul 22, 2012, 11:08 PM
So the PDF Expert update came out and its great. It now lets you add audio clips within the PDF file (something their others apps offered for a while). The bugs with annotations are fixed and taking notes couldnt be better.

Objector
Aug 26, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sorry for bringing this thread back to life, but I'm also struggling to chose between those 3 apps.

Tomorrow I'll receive my very first iPad, which I've purchased to go 'paperless' next college semester. I will try to digitalize all my courses and I will be taking notes to them with the iPad.

Coming september I will also have to write my thesis, which requires me to read countless scientific PDF's. So I will be using the iPad a lot for research.

So what do I need:

- A very clearly organized library of all my PDF's.
- A quick and easy way to highlight text
- Being able to add written text
- The ability to search for specific words in ALL my files (for research)
- I'd be nice to add sound during lectures
- Bookmarks in PDF files, so I can easily jump to paragraphs which are relevant to my research
- The ability the easily add a page (for drawing diagrams or extra's during courses)

...

Which one suits me best? It seems like PDF expert works the most intuitive, but does it have all the functionality?

epicmar
Aug 26, 2012, 03:05 PM
Sorry for bringing this thread back to life, but I'm also struggling to chose between those 3 apps.

Tomorrow I'll receive my very first iPad, which I've purchased to go 'paperless' next college semester. I will try to digitalize all my courses and I will be taking notes to them with the iPad.

Coming september I will also have to write my thesis, which requires me to read countless scientific PDF's. So I will be using the iPad a lot for research.

So what do I need:

- A very clearly organized library of all my PDF's.
- A quick and easy way to highlight text
- Being able to add written text
- The ability to search for specific words in ALL my files (for research)
- I'd be nice to add sound during lectures
- Bookmarks in PDF files, so I can easily jump to paragraphs which are relevant to my research
- The ability the easily add a page (for drawing diagrams or extra's during courses)

...

Which one suits me best? It seems like PDF expert works the most intuitive, but does it have all the functionality?

I have iAnnotate and GoodReader. I have switched back and forth between them and recently moved over 1500 files for iAnnotate back to GoodReader.
- iAnnotate does better highlighting especially if you are highlighting in image PDFs; can search the content of all PDFs (but can't limit search to specific folders so it is not very useful with a large number of files; doesn't do handwriting annotations nearly as well as GoodReader; doesn't backup/synch with the cloud as well as GoodReader;
- GoodReader excellent handwriting notes annotation (pushing capability of standalone notetaking apps, but for some inexplicable reason doesn't support inserting blank pages (iAnnotate does); doesn't support rearranging pages; can selectively erase parts of handwriting annotations (iAnnotate can't - i.e., if you write 5 sentences, hit save, and then realize you made an error in a word, you can only delete all 5 sentences); very capable backup/sync with cloud services; can only search within one file at a time;

I think a good solution is to annotate PDFs and take notes in Notability where you can also record audio. Unfortunately, i don't think you can get the notes with audio into iAnnotate or GoodReader. I don't use much audio so I take meeting notes, which usually starts with a pdf file and then open as a PDF in GoodReader for file management purposes. I also use Appigo ToDo which works with GoodReader. GoodReader and ToDo work together to facilitate creating a ToDo entry with a link to a GoodReader file. That way if I need to review a file, I have a todo task with a due date and reminder that is linked to the file in GoodReader.

My understanding is that PDF Expert searches the content of all files, has decent handwriting annotation, does not support tabbed/windowed display of files, does not support flagging files as favorites.

The bottom line is that they are all solid apps. None is my ideal, but they keep adding new features and offer a lot of functionality for relatively little $, certainly compared to desktop apps.

Let us know which app you go with.

Readdlemate
Aug 29, 2012, 06:39 AM
I have iAnnotate and GoodReader. I have switched back and forth between them and recently moved over 1500 files for iAnnotate back to GoodReader.
- iAnnotate does better highlighting especially if you are highlighting in image PDFs; can search the content of all PDFs (but can't limit search to specific folders so it is not very useful with a large number of files; doesn't do handwriting annotations nearly as well as GoodReader; doesn't backup/synch with the cloud as well as GoodReader;
- GoodReader excellent handwriting notes annotation (pushing capability of standalone notetaking apps, but for some inexplicable reason doesn't support inserting blank pages (iAnnotate does); doesn't support rearranging pages; can selectively erase parts of handwriting annotations (iAnnotate can't - i.e., if you write 5 sentences, hit save, and then realize you made an error in a word, you can only delete all 5 sentences); very capable backup/sync with cloud services; can only search within one file at a time;

I think a good solution is to annotate PDFs and take notes in Notability where you can also record audio. Unfortunately, i don't think you can get the notes with audio into iAnnotate or GoodReader. I don't use much audio so I take meeting notes, which usually starts with a pdf file and then open as a PDF in GoodReader for file management purposes. I also use Appigo ToDo which works with GoodReader. GoodReader and ToDo work together to facilitate creating a ToDo entry with a link to a GoodReader file. That way if I need to review a file, I have a todo task with a due date and reminder that is linked to the file in GoodReader.

My understanding is that PDF Expert searches the content of all files, has decent handwriting annotation, does not support tabbed/windowed display of files, does not support flagging files as favorites.

The bottom line is that they are all solid apps. None is my ideal, but they keep adding new features and offer a lot of functionality for relatively little $, certainly compared to desktop apps.

Let us know which app you go with.

PDF Expert 4.3 is coming! And guess what.. it'll have tabs!
Stay tuned guys, I'll keep you informed.

JTravers
Sep 6, 2012, 12:32 AM
Sorry, but PDF Expert does support vertical scrolling. Just go to "Settings" -> "PDF Viewer" and chose the type of scrolling you like.

When using vertical scrolling, are you still able to annotate the PDF?

There is a very simple reason for not doing tabs - it will ruin the whole user experience and interface. We do have "Recent" tap with the last 5 documents you have viewed (so you can quickly jump between those).

Any chance you could add the "Recent" button to ReaddleDocs when viewing a PDF (I know "Recent" is already available in the document manager view)?

Thanks!

staccato83
Sep 6, 2012, 04:55 PM
PDF Expert 4.3 is coming! And guess what.. it'll have tabs!
Stay tuned guys, I'll keep you informed.

Will it fix the slight jitter effect when you scroll to the bottom of a pdf?

MBHockey
Sep 6, 2012, 07:34 PM
When using vertical scrolling, are you still able to annotate the PDF?



Any chance you could add the "Recent" button to ReaddleDocs when viewing a PDF (I know "Recent" is already available in the document manager view)?

Thanks!

yes, i annotate all the time with vertical scrolling. Love PDF Expert. The only thing i wish it had were customizable toolbars. I am constantly switching between the highlighter and the pen/pencil tool. So i constantly have to go back and forth between the toolbars. I wish i could make my own that had both in there. it would save me a lot of tapping :)

Scrub175
Sep 6, 2012, 08:02 PM
iAnnotate will let you adjust toolbars. I have highlighter colors preset.

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I have iAnnotate and GoodReader. I have switched back and forth between them and recently moved over 1500 files for iAnnotate back to GoodReader.
- iAnnotate does better highlighting especially if you are highlighting in image PDFs; can search the content of all PDFs (but can't limit search to specific folders so it is not very useful with a large number of files; doesn't do handwriting annotations nearly as well as GoodReader; doesn't backup/synch with the cloud as well as GoodReader;
- GoodReader excellent handwriting notes annotation (pushing capability of standalone notetaking apps, but for some inexplicable reason doesn't support inserting blank pages (iAnnotate does); doesn't support rearranging pages; can selectively erase parts of handwriting annotations (iAnnotate can't - i.e., if you write 5 sentences, hit save, and then realize you made an error in a word, you can only delete all 5 sentences); very capable backup/sync with cloud services; can only search within one file at a time;

I think a good solution is to annotate PDFs and take notes in Notability where you can also record audio. Unfortunately, i don't think you can get the notes with audio into iAnnotate or GoodReader. I don't use much audio so I take meeting notes, which usually starts with a pdf file and then open as a PDF in GoodReader for file management purposes. I also use Appigo ToDo which works with GoodReader. GoodReader and ToDo work together to facilitate creating a ToDo entry with a link to a GoodReader file. That way if I need to review a file, I have a todo task with a due date and reminder that is linked to the file in GoodReader.

My understanding is that PDF Expert searches the content of all files, has decent handwriting annotation, does not support tabbed/windowed display of files, does not support flagging files as favorites.

The bottom line is that they are all solid apps. None is my ideal, but they keep adding new features and offer a lot of functionality for relatively little $, certainly compared to desktop apps.

Let us know which app you go with.

iAnnotate will allow voice notes to pdf

quinncom
Apr 5, 2013, 05:41 AM
I have ReaddleDocs and GoodReader and much prefer GoodReader. It has twice the features as RD with less than half the memory (RSIZE) footprint. I find the UI less cumbersome. It excels as a PDF reader; other file formats just use the iOS built-in file viewers, which are rudimentary at best (this applies to RD and GR both). The built-in text editor is handy. It is well thought-out and built, a very lovable app. I've uploaded screenshots of both apps so you can compare:
http://min.us/mreaddledocs
http://min.us/mgoodreader

Han Solo 1
Apr 5, 2013, 07:26 AM
Try GoodNotes. It has the smoothest and nicest annotation feature of any app I've tried yet, and I've tried dozens of them.

TJ61
Apr 5, 2013, 09:04 AM
I have ReaddleDocs and GoodReader

Any reason you dredged up a 6 month old thread to post this? I feel very reluctant to click on any of your links....

Regards,
Tom

djransom
Apr 5, 2013, 10:57 AM
I use Goodreader daily and love it.

Coko Robano
Apr 20, 2013, 07:36 AM
Sorry to introduce a new issue; I'm unsure why this didn't come up in previous discussions so I may have a lack of GoodReader knowledge.

In the organization I work a lot of Word doc's are distributed by email, I guess that's a pretty standard situation.

I like to convert these Word doc's into pdf files in order to be able to see the docs as they were meant to be by the composer (if I open a Word file on the iPad directly a lot of messy layout is generated). A second reason is I like to be able to annotate the file, which only is possible if I convert the .doc to a .pdf (which has to be done on the computer, not on the iPad) after which conversion I have to send the pdf by email to myself in order to import it in GoodReader.

I heard that iAnnotate is able to convert a .doc into a .pdf where I cannot find that functionality in GoodReader?

Is this all true and is iAnnotate a better choice for somebody who receives a lot of Word .doc files, or am I missing something (in GoodReader).

TIA.

macalec
Apr 20, 2013, 01:17 PM
I use good reader to annotate PDF's during class. It is great- I like all of the options to export out to other formats.

saberahul
Apr 20, 2013, 03:33 PM
I haven't used iAnnotate but between GR and PDF Expert - I prefer the latter. They do the same things and work very well. PDF Expert has a far better looking UI (especially on the iPhone). It depends on your needs really but I'd wait for a sale. I won PDF Expert through a raffle long ago (got the iPhone one for free when it went on sale) and bought GR for $1.

On another note, Documents is also a powerful app. It doesn't have nearly as many annotation features as PDF Expert or GR but should do the work for many people. Did I mention it's free? It's from Readdle… creators of PDF Expert.

TJ61
Apr 22, 2013, 01:55 PM
I heard that iAnnotate is able to convert a .doc into a .pdf where I cannot find that functionality in GoodReader?

Is this all true and is iAnnotate a better choice for somebody who receives a lot of Word .doc files, or am I missing something (in GoodReader).

TIA.

I have GoodReader, and can confirm that it does NOT convert to pdf at present. I looked for this specifically in the last week or two.

Regards,
Tom

pdfmax
Apr 23, 2013, 02:04 AM
Feel free to try PDF Max. It has a free version for you to try. More info here (https://www.smore.com/6jn6-pdf-max-by-mobeera)
It's universal, runs on both iPhone/iPad in a single app.
https://d1zqayhc1yz6oo.cloudfront.net/a9d86b5f0c24b6c364ce520425e4e8e8.png
https://d1zqayhc1yz6oo.cloudfront.net/7eca0932493b0371d0dcf12500ca36db.png

smithydan
Apr 24, 2013, 09:16 AM
Want to add to the mix. Have a hard hard time deciding. Leaning towards PDF expert but want some views on the others before making a decision.

What are your guys views and experiences on the following:

Annotating
PDF Reader Pro Edition
PDF Forms

Converting
To PDF
PDF Converter


Both
PDF Reader Pro
DocAS
PDF PROvider

negarey
Nov 8, 2013, 09:00 AM
Feel free to try PDF Max. It has a free version for you to try. More info here (https://www.smore.com/6jn6-pdf-max-by-mobeera)
It's universal, runs on both iPhone/iPad in a single app.
Image (https://d1zqayhc1yz6oo.cloudfront.net/a9d86b5f0c24b6c364ce520425e4e8e8.png)
Image (https://d1zqayhc1yz6oo.cloudfront.net/7eca0932493b0371d0dcf12500ca36db.png)

I downloaded PDF Max a while ago in my search for a PDF reader, but the free version doesn't allow users to test out the writing tools so I ruled it out immediately. I am a super poor student and I can't afford to guess at whether or not those features will turn out okay after purchase. Just FYI.

lexvo
Nov 8, 2013, 12:39 PM
Does anyone have experience with NoteSuite? The reviews seem pretty good.
Unfortunately, it isn't available yet in the app store in my country.

lexvo
Nov 10, 2013, 12:10 PM
A strong point for Goodreader is that it can connect (and often also sync) with a lot of internet and (local) networkservices like SMB, WebDav, Dropbox, (S)FTP, Skydrive, Google drive, ....

epicmar
Nov 10, 2013, 10:09 PM
Does anyone have experience with NoteSuite? The reviews seem pretty good.
Unfortunately, it isn't available yet in the app store in my country.

I have Goodreader, iAnnotate, PDF Expert, PDF Max and NoteSuite (as well as quite a few other apps in this category). All of the mentioned apps do a better job with annotations than NoteSutie, but if you are looking for an all in one notetaking, annotation, file manager, todo app then NoteSuite is probably the best. It needs a little work on its UI and its file annotation functionality, but it is a very solid app. I have been using it for a while as my primary notetaking, file managment, pdf annotation, todo app. Hope that helps.

lexvo
Nov 11, 2013, 05:26 AM
I have Goodreader, iAnnotate, PDF Expert, PDF Max and NoteSuite (as well as quite a few other apps in this category). All of the mentioned apps do a better job with annotations than NoteSutie, but if you are looking for an all in one notetaking, annotation, file manager, todo app then NoteSuite is probably the best. It needs a little work on its UI and its file annotation functionality, but it is a very solid app. I have been using it for a while as my primary notetaking, file managment, pdf annotation, todo app. Hope that helps.

Thanks for your reply!
Yes, I am looking for an app that has note taking, file manager (I need directories of several levels deep) and annotating. A plus for me is also that it has an iMac version where it can sync with (though the iMac version has no annotating).
I think I can do with simple annotating, so when NoteSuite comes out in my App Store, I'll give it a try.

Matth3w
Jan 16, 2014, 11:04 AM
Does PDF Expert also open other standard types of files? Unfortunately I need to be able to open all xls, doc, and ppt (but mostly PDF). I am trying to switch from goodreader as I think the layout is meh.

lexvo
Jan 16, 2014, 12:16 PM
Does PDF Expert also open other standard types of files? Unfortunately I need to be able to open all xls, doc, and ppt (but mostly PDF). I am trying to switch from goodreader as I think the layout is meh.

Yes you can. Like GoodReader, PDF Expert can open doc, xls, pages, numbers and so on files. You cannot annotate on them though (neither can GoodReader).

Matth3w
Jan 16, 2014, 01:07 PM
ugh, I'm irritated with myself for purchasing this. I misread where it says in iTunes that it's good for the iPhone, iPod, and iPad thinking it was a universal app whereas it's not.

PadingtonBeer
Jul 9, 2014, 09:29 PM
Ended up choosing NotablePDF for my pdf viewer, newer software but really stable. have found it useful on my mac although im still holding out for ipad support.