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Sensamic
Jul 11, 2012, 07:51 PM
Im gonna do this review real quick and direct for easy reading.

My first iOS device was an iPod Touch. I liked it so much that I bought the iphone 4 the year after and been with it 2 years until last month, after several months of having the home button broken and Apple not fixing it. I also own the ipad 1, so I have really enjoyed and appreciated ios over the years.

Decided to buy the SGS3 after over a year wanting to try Android, but no device was good enough and Gingerbread was not that polished either. When ICS was announced I felt it was the correct time to try it.

Being 3 weeks with the SGS3.

Pros:

- Screen. You just cant love a device with such a big HD screen. Negative point is that its not as bright as the iphone 4. I can notice this when I am in the street with direct sunlight. The screen looks awful in direct sunlight. Really bad. I forgot that amoled displays had this problem even before the iphone 4, when I had a Samsung Omnia HD. With the iphone 4 I never even remembered that and thought it was already fixed on all devices. So screen is great in resolution, color and size, but awful in direct sunlight and lower brightness (although not that much, but still is a shame).

- Battery. Really good for an android phone. I can get 2 days with normal use. 1 day with heavy use. Its as good as the iphone 4, which lasted the same.

- Smoothness and lag. The device is as faster as ios or even faster on many things. The only problem is homescreen redraw, but this is a problem made by samsung and not android. I expect a bug fix sometime, but its clearly samsungs fault for not giving the homecsreen ram priority so it never closes down. This kind of little stupid mistake makes you appreciate Apple and hate Samsung, but its obvious that they dont spend the same amount of time than Apple optimizing their software to each of their phones released in a year.

- Sound. Its louder than iphone 4. Same clarity.

- Design. I remember watching the sgs3 announcement and hating the design. It wasnt until I saw it in person that it changed my mind and now I think its really nice. I just love how thin and light it is. Much much more than the iphone. Maybe a device so small must be thicker by logic, as to include every component in less space. Two problems are that the back is slippery (I have the feeling that it can fall anytime) and the home button (I hate hardware buttons after the iphones 4 broke). Capacitive buttons are amazing and I cant understand why apple hasnt implemented them yet. No problems whatsoever with build quality. To me it feels the same as the glass of the iphone 4.

- Software. With android you get the feeling that the software is not 100% optimized for any phone except the Nexus, and this is correct. Touchwiz is way better than its previous versions, and its sad to say that its better than iOS, since it allows much more options and customization. Well, touchwiz and android in general. Just a few hours after buying the phone I saw endless possibilities and since then I enjoy changing my homescreens and stuff whenever I feel like.

Ios really feels like a simple os design for people who just want a simple phone that works and gives them zero problems. I wanted that 2 years ago after many awful phones like the Omnia HD, Nokia N95, etc. Those phones were terrible. That is why I changed to ios, but after two years I have outgrown the os and want more. Android works just fine and I have had no problems like freezes or things like that. No reboots or weird stuff.

Software feels much more advanced in android, and that is logical. When I had ios I felt I didnt need widgets, and now they are completely useful: weather, my rss feeds, social updates, google search voice, music controls, radio controls, etc. And with this 4.8 HD screen widgets look awesome and you have no space problems.

Camera has many nice options, like taking pictures while recording or changing the video to lower resolutions and other stuff. Much better than the simple camera app in ios.

The settings toggles in the notification area are just essential now. I can enable and disable 3G in 2 seconds when in ios it took me longer (on stock obviously. I had my phone jailbreaked). There are many useful toggles like wifi, 3g, bluetooth (real BT thank god), power saving mode, synchronization, gps, etc. All are useful.

I would say ios is nicer looking and android is easier to use. Many people say ios is easier to use but thats wrong when I can do most stuff on android faster or in different ways to adapt my style. For example: multitasking. On ios pressing the hardware button to exit and app and double tap for multitasking and long press for siri will make the button less responsive in a short time. I know because it happened to me only 1 year after buying the iphone 4, so wheres that high quality apple presumes of? On android you have the capacitive buttons for back, which is faster and smoother, and I just installed a multitask shortcut similar to the one on the nexus for even faster and nicer multitasking. There are many other ways to customize this and many more things, so I decide the way I want to access things. Way better than ios.

The notification led is a great plus also. I wish iphone had it. This is the kind of stuff that made me switch to android. I feel apple wont include capacitive buttons or notification led in a very long time, if ever. This things are useful and not just cute introductions. They serve a purpose.

I cannot express enough how advance many of the stock apps are in android compared to ios. People app (with social updates and several accounts to sync), youtube app, maps (after trying google maps in android im certain apple will take a few more years minimum to catch up, if they even can, which I seriously doubt), gmail, photos (organize it they way you want and not depending of iTunes, which cannot even sync different subfolders of your photo library from your computer), etc. Really, ios apps are very, very far behind. Its ridiculous. Google chrome is way better than safari also, and I feel it will get even better with future updates, making safari feel so outdated.

There are incomprehensible limitations to ios that also made me jump ship. One example: uploading any type of file to my NAS, and not just pictures and videos like ios. The other day I downloaded on my SGS3 a subtitle from the web in rar, extracted the file with an app and uploaded to my NAS to watch a movie with it. Took me 2 minutes. Never could do this on iOS. This just shows you that ios is kind of a toy os. It needs to give users more power, but that is just a dream I guess. These phones are called smartphones for a reason, and should allow this kind of stuff. ios is like a cripple os. Even the system file manager is now essential to me. I use it every day to do several tasks, like move photos from one album to another, files from the internal memory to the SD card, deleting files, etc. Just like finder in Mac.

There are many, many things you can do with android that ios does not allow. It feels like you can do anything you need, and all this stuff is important nowadays.

The play store is even a better app than the app store. Im not talking about content, rather than the app itself, allowing swype gestures and multi-downloads and more stuff. You know whats awesome? Going to the play store on safari and downloading apps directly from there, which automatically sends them and installs them on the phone. This is a really cool feature.

Voice search and voice dictation is awesome also. Cant believe it took apple so long to introduce them with siri last year, but now with the new google search they are already ahead again. On the other hand, s voice on the SGS3 is really bad, way behind siri, so its almost not worth it besides making calls and setting alarms. Im waiting for the update to JB.

Another awesome feature is installing different keyboards. Swiftkey 3 and swype are miles ahead of the ios keyboard. Just another area where android is way better than ios.

So my conclusion is that android feels more like a true smart os than iOS, which now seems even more limited than when I had it. To me, android is better and way ahead of ios, but iphone is also a much much better phone than any android phone out there, but it also has problems like the deathgrip in iphone 4 and battery issues in the 4s, so no phone is perfect.

If you want a true powerful os android is the way to go. If you want a nice and simple os then ios is the better choice. Android is just growing at a much much faster pace than ios in hardware and software. The best choice in android is to go with the new nexus.



SR45
Jul 11, 2012, 08:03 PM
Thank you for the good review Sensamic, and this will help others decide in what they want to do.

For me, as you pointed out, Apple optimizing their software, and I want a simple, easy smartphone that will be used for only Calls, GPS, Photos from time to time and perhaps a little E-mail/Web searching, but nothing else and the iPhone fits that just fine. However, the one and only reason I would never go with the other phones is the fact that I want something that is comfortable in my one hand, and the wider Android phones just did not fit well for me, but others Perhaps, just a deciding factor for my tastes.

Glad you like your new smartphone and good luck with it

Zaft
Jul 11, 2012, 08:26 PM
good luck waiting for JB.. this is the only problem android has. I think you should of got the GNEX so you will get timely updates.

JamesHP
Jul 11, 2012, 08:26 PM
I've just ordered a GS3, have owned iPhones for the past three years (3GS/4) and fancy a change. Had a play around on my friend's GS3 a few weeks ago and it blew me away. Looking forward to receiving it.

Vegastouch
Jul 11, 2012, 08:32 PM
good luck waiting for JB.. this is the only problem android has. I think you should of got the GNEX so you will get timely updates.

GS3 is getting JB in Q4. Already been announced.

asr10 user
Jul 11, 2012, 08:48 PM
Thank you for the great review. I feel almost exactly the same way after loving my iphone 4 since launch, then playing with my ICS HP Touchpad.

Android is simply pulling away and 4.1 sealed the deal. I agree with you on everything except I think Google Play stinks compared to the App Store. Although downloading later via web is a great feature, Windows phone also does this.

I think its similar to when lots of people switched from Blackberry to iPhone. BB was becoming outdated and they hated the iPhone because it was just a prettier version of BB, and the early versions of iOS stunk. Now its almost the same thing, Android is a sexier version of iOS after being terrible its first few years.

Roessnakhan
Jul 11, 2012, 08:58 PM
I was using the Galaxy Nexus last week, my opinions are a lot similar to yours. The display on the Galazy Nexus isn't that good either - I think both the SGS3 and GN share that, being both Pentile, I believe.

JB is a revelation as a long-time iPhone user (and occasional Android dabbler). I occasionally try out Android handsets to see how they've improved, from the G1 to the N1, Droid to Droid X. None of these devices made me see the appeal of Android, but ICS and JB's improvements change that. With JB, Apple better announce something very innovative with the new iPhone (or iOS6).

There are a lot of little things in Android that make the OS superior to use (not to mention offline dictation and a great keyboard). One example is taking a photo with the camera and sharing it to Tumblr, Instagram, etc. with just a single tap. With iOS you have to load the camera from a given app, which requires launching that app, or by "Selecting Photo/Video" from the Camera Roll. There is no way to do it directly from the camera, unless you're tweeting, e-mailing, or messaging it.

The one thing the iPhone has had going for it since the iPhone 4 is the camera. It has replaced my point-and-shoot. So far I have not been able to find an Android handset that matches this camera.

This fall, I'm going to see what Apple announces, and what Nexus devices (I hear they might use several manufacturers this year) Google releases before I make my decision.

Zaft
Jul 11, 2012, 08:58 PM
GS3 is getting JB in Q4. Already been announced.

yea but the GNEX already has it. you have to wait 6 months for an update.

Sensamic
Jul 11, 2012, 09:07 PM
yea but the GNEX already has it. you have to wait 6 months for an update.

Yeah, updates are a problem, thats why I said in my review go with the nexus (and because of optimization). Im no hurry right now since Im new to android and have many things to try and do first, but obviously my next phone will be the nexus from next year. The sgs3 will get JB so I didnt need to buy a nexus right now.

bossxii
Jul 11, 2012, 09:33 PM
Nice review! While my primary phone is the 4S I do own a Droid Razr and the few things I really like with Android is how well the voice commands and how it in integrated across any app with a keyboard. Currently it blows Siri away imo. Just last night I upgraded the Razr to 4.0? Gotta be honest it took a system update and I havent hand the chance to mess with it but even prior to that the "Offline Maps" feature Google just launched is freak'n awesome. I have used the Razr for my main GPS and there are several widgets I enjoy using aside from it being my LTE hotspot since I nabbed an unlimited data plan from someone looking to get rid of the line.

Anyhow, while I use the iPhone, iPad and mostly Apple gear as much of my media is already shared ans setup in the Apple eco system. I do like Google in general for their software and use Chrome, Google docs, Gmail etc.. daily, the hardware manufacturers are the main reason I haven't fully switched. Glass and Alum are simply more appealing to me in a phone. The larger screen and crazy thin Razr however is the best non Apple handset I've used in terms of how it feels in my hand, screen size and battery life in such a thin phone. I love good tech in general, and for the most part Apple keeps me coming back for more iPhones because I'm honestly past the point in my life that i care to root, jailbreak and jack with a phone. I need my phone for the basics and having a custom wallpaper or few widgets doesn't impress me enough to leave all the smooth buttery UI goodness iOS brings to the table. What is lacks in customization is makes up for rock solid stability.

10 to 20 years ago.. if I was headed to college and as I built PC's and tinkered with all sorts of electronics I can defiantly see the appeal of the android phones, but my time is now spent enjoying other aspects of life.

fins831
Jul 11, 2012, 10:01 PM
I have no problem with Android phones, my friends own some and they serve their purpose.

The one reason currently I won't own an Android phone is loss of value. When I sell my iphone a year later or even 2 years later, I basically am signing a new contract and getting a phone for nothing. Prime example was Iphone 3gs, 2 years I sold it on Craigslist for 200, and got a 4s for free on apple.com

iPhones hold their value incredibly, and I consider them an investment as well as a toy. I love my phone, but I know when it is time to upgrade, I will get a nice chunk of change for it. My friend recently sold his Droid Incredible for 40 bucks after buying it for 200, I just see that as incredibly inefficient.

I bought 1 phone and its going to literally allow me to purchase each upgrade unless they drop in used value anytime soon.

I have no problem with Android, competition breeds better software upgrades, but I do love not taking a shot to the wallet when I do decide to upgrade.

Dunbar
Jul 11, 2012, 11:53 PM
I received my Verizon S3 yesterday which is my first Android device and I'm pretty impressed so far. The performance blows my iphone 4 out of the water. I'm struggling a little bit with the size. I think my ideal screen size for me would be 4.3-4.5" but IMO the iPhone screen is just too darned small in this day and age. The large screen is amazing for content consumption and I'm really digging the color pop on this AMOLED (you don't notice pentile at normal viewing distances.) Android isn't perfect but I think the gap that used to exist between it and iOS is now too slim to make a big deal about. I own a Macbook Air and iPad 3 so I'm not biased against either platform.

Tarzanman
Jul 11, 2012, 11:53 PM
The die hard apple fans are going to troll this thread hard when they see it.

I haven't used a Galaxy S III, but I do have a Galaxy Nexus and I did own a Vibrant and the original G1.

I have long predicted that Apple would not be able to keep up, but I do not expect them to go quietly into the night. IOS 6 announcements so far haven't left a whole lot to look forward to... but I am intensely interested in what Apple has in store for the upcoming iPHone.

I'm a fan of how Apple has pushed certain hardware advances (hi res displays), but think that it could be argued that they are taking the industry backwards with software.

I am also sorta hoping that Microsoft and RIM can make a good go of it.

Sensamic
Jul 11, 2012, 11:58 PM
I think Apple is going on a specific direction with its iPhone line, and its intended for the average user who doesnt care about complex stuff and needs no power features. The average user only needs basic stuff. That is why I wanted to try android, which seems to be more of a power os.

TennisandMusic
Jul 12, 2012, 12:26 AM
I have no problem with Android phones, my friends own some and they serve their purpose.

The one reason currently I won't own an Android phone is loss of value. When I sell my iphone a year later or even 2 years later, I basically am signing a new contract and getting a phone for nothing. Prime example was Iphone 3gs, 2 years I sold it on Craigslist for 200, and got a 4s for free on apple.com

iPhones hold their value incredibly, and I consider them an investment as well as a toy. I love my phone, but I know when it is time to upgrade, I will get a nice chunk of change for it. My friend recently sold his Droid Incredible for 40 bucks after buying it for 200, I just see that as incredibly inefficient.

I bought 1 phone and its going to literally allow me to purchase each upgrade unless they drop in used value anytime soon.

I have no problem with Android, competition breeds better software upgrades, but I do love not taking a shot to the wallet when I do decide to upgrade.

Well I just lost about 300 bucks on an iPhone 4S I sold this week. So your buddy lost 75% sure, but in terms of real dollars he only lost 160.

Look at the resale market for the iPhone, it's dropped quite a bit... My 350 full price Galaxy Nexus could lose most of it's value and I would still lose less than I would on an iPhone. It seems to me like there could be a possible shift occurring...

P.S. NO consumer product is an investment. Period. Anything that depreciates in value is an expenditure. Saying it's an investment is just lying to yourself to justify a purchase (usually).

fins831
Jul 12, 2012, 12:34 AM
Well I just lost about 300 bucks on an iPhone 4S I sold this week. So your buddy lost 75% sure, but in terms of real dollars he only lost 160.

Look at the resale market for the iPhone, it's dropped quite a bit... My 350 full price Galaxy Nexus could lose most of it's value and I would still lose less than I would on an iPhone. It seems to me like there could be a possible shift occurring...

P.S. NO consumer product is an investment. Period. Anything that depreciates in value is an expenditure. Saying it's an investment is just lying to yourself to justify a purchase (usually).

How did you lose 300 bucks on your 4S? buy it out of contract and then sold it for 300 bucks? I am saying if you buy a subsidized iphone, it can be an investment because 200-300 bucks invested, and you can get that back easily...

And a consumer product can be an investment if you take care of it and flip it properly, if you can't, then you just aren't savy enough, because in my world, everything is an investment, and everything is business...and its not lying to justify a purchase if its true...my example was out of subsidized pricing, not spending 650-800 bucks out of contract and taking a huge hit.

I don't need justification to buy what I want, but it helps when in 1.5-2 years I get a return on my purchase, some might call that a type of investment....but what do I know...

kevinof
Jul 12, 2012, 03:12 AM
Agreed. I've always felt that Apple deliberately "dumbed" down the iphone the lowest common denominator. that's not an insult to the phone or OS but its a deliberate decision by Apple to make the phone simple for the average user on the street to use. In most ways they've succeeded but you end up with a phone that's fairly basic in terms of the OS and features and for people wanting more out of their phones it doesn't cut it.

I think Apple were correct 3 or 4 years ago when the phone was first launched but 3 or 4 years later the average Joe is a lot more comfortable with smartphones and and maybe this is where Apple have fallen behind. They still think the average Joe is the same as the average Joe was 3 or 4 years ago.



I think Apple is going on a specific direction with its iPhone line, and its intended for the average user who doesnt care about complex stuff and needs no power features. The average user only needs basic stuff. That is why I wanted to try android, which seems to be more of a power os.

chewietobbacca
Jul 12, 2012, 03:33 AM
I think what was stunning for me after receiving my SGS3 was how far Android has come.

Not that iOS was perfect from the get go, but Android 1.0 through 3.0 just could not match up to iOS at the same time.

Now though? Ice Cream Sandwich (to say nothing about Jelly Bean) has really blown out iOS imo. The smoothness, usability, features, customization etc. is simply stunning.

Definitely agree that iOS seems to be tailored for the average user now - which is smart from a money making perspective. But like many others, I like to tinker and customize and after using Android 4.0+, it'll be very hard for me to go back to something more locked down.

ReanimationN
Jul 12, 2012, 03:43 AM
How do you find the screen compared to the iPhone 4/4S? I just demoed all the latest phones at a Vodafone store near my house and came away quite disappointed with the Galaxy S3's maximum brightness level. The One X, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S2, Xperia S and iPhone 4S all had much brighter screens at maximum brightness.

Are there any software tweaks to turn the brightness higher? I turned off auto-adjust brightness, changed the colour mode to normal (dynamic seemed to make the screen look quite green) and turned brightness all the way up on both the OS and the browser, but it still looked dim compared to the other phones there.

I was quite disappointed, as I don't remember the screen being dim when I first demoed the phone at a different store (I tried 2 different ones tonight to make sure it wasn't a dodgy store model). If it weren't for the dim screen, I'd probably already have the phone, as I love it otherwise. Now I'm not sure whether I should get the S3, or wait for Windows Phone 8 handsets or the next iPhone.

Nightarchaon
Jul 12, 2012, 03:46 AM
I have to say, having used Windows CE phones, the original iPhone was a quantum Leap in smartphone tech, i happily used the 1st gen iPhone for two years, upgrading to the 3GS, but, i was unhappy with the 3GS battery life, often having to plug in and charge "only" 8 hrs after unplugging in the morning, i would say my use was Moderate to high, having a 1hr 30 min commute to work, i would often watch a tv show, or movie or some podcasts, on the way to and from work, on top of the usual web browsing/email access/phone calls and texting.

so, when my contract was up, i took the plunge, left apple, and got a Samsung Galaxy SII, my experience has been as follows.

Hardware - , LOVE the SII hardware, the screen is MUCH nicer than the iPhone 4S screen IMO, the colors are crisper, and the extra size is much nicer in the Meat Plates i call hands, the iPhone 4S i found was just uncomfortable to hold, and side by side running the same streamed video the SII just looked SO much better.

Software - Apps , the android marketplace , and i wont pull any punches here, SUCKS GREAT HAIRY DONKEY BALLS, its full of ad-ware/spam-ware and scams, its messy, and bug-ridden, and often you find an app and then it wont run because your device is not supported.

Software - OS, again, the android OS feels like its in beta still, the menus, between different parts of the OS have no cohesive feel to them, as though each section was written by a different developer, unlike iOS where all the menus gel, even between native and 3rd party apps, i also dislike the fact that i had to spend money to get a usable mail app, usable KEYBOARD and usable text app, the built in ones should be as good as they can be, but it seems that Google just banged out the bare minimum functionality and hoped the community would fix the functionality holes.


Bottom line,

I would love to have Samsung hardware running iOS, but, it looks like if i want a phone that us usable, out the box, without having to tweak and install a million apps to make it usable, ill be going back to the "new iPhone/iPhone5" when my contract is up, probably with an extra battery case to get me through the day.

Apples user experience is light years ahead of the competition, and its app store policy has meant that , although restrictive to the devs, you can count on a certain level of polish to the apps, and not just a million "fart button" apps that send out premium rate texts in the background.

For Google to compete on the App front, they need to clean out, and police there market place, as it is now, its like running a bank with no doors on the vault.

kevinof
Jul 12, 2012, 04:16 AM
Don't agree with you on these two points. I've been 3 years on Android now (have ipad as well and iphones in the house) and in those 3 years I've never had a problem with any app in the android market. Yes there have been reports of some apps being pulled but it never affected me and I have over 100 apps on my phone. I've also been able to run any app I want since ICS came out (and maybe before but I can't remember).

Also on the menus/layouts. What's inconsistent with it? It you're talking about the OS then the menus are all the same. Same font, same structure, same colours.

Keyboards - Many, including me , think the keyboard on ICS is a lot better and maybe even as good as ios. The fact that you CAN download (and pay) for the keyboard of your choice should be seen as a plus. We're not all the same, we like to do things differently and therefore you have a choice of which keyboard suits your style best. Yes it may cost a couple of bucks/euros but if you end up with something that really works for YOU then is it not worth it?


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Software - Apps , the android marketplace , and i wont pull any punches here, SUCKS GREAT HAIRY DONKEY BALLS, its full of ad-ware/spam-ware and scams, its messy, and bug-ridden, and often you find an app and then it wont run because your device is not supported.

Software - OS, again, the android OS feels like its in beta still, the menus, between different parts of the OS have no cohesive feel to them, as though each section was written by a different developer, unlike iOS where all the menus gel, even between native and 3rd party apps, i also dislike the fact that i had to spend money to get a usable mail app, usable KEYBOARD and usable text app, the built in ones should be as good as they can be, but it seems that Google just banged out the bare minimum functionality and hoped the community would fix the functionality holes.

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eron
Jul 12, 2012, 04:16 AM
Im gonna do this review real quick and direct for easy reading.

[About 10 long paragraphs later...]

Ios really feels like a simple os design for people who just want a simple phone that works and gives them zero problems.... That is why I changed to ios, but after two years I have outgrown the os and want more. Android works just fine and I have had no problems like freezes or things like that. No reboots or weird stuff.

[Another 10 paragraphs later...]
So my conclusion is that android feels more like a true smart os than iOS, which now seems even more limited than when I had it. To me, android is better and way ahead of ios, but iphone is also a much much better phone than any android phone out there...

If you want a true powerful os android is the way to go. If you want a nice and simple os then ios is the better choice. Android is just growing at a much much faster pace than ios in hardware and software. The best choice in android is to go with the new nexus.

Yes, you highlighted the type of market the SGS3 is targeting.

There are incomprehensible limitations to ios that also made me jump ship. One example: uploading any type of file to my NAS, and not just pictures and videos like ios. The other day I downloaded on my SGS3 a subtitle from the web in rar, extracted the file with an app and uploaded to my NAS to watch a movie with it. Took me 2 minutes. Never could do this on iOS. This just shows you that ios is kind of a toy os. It needs to give users more power, but that is just a dream I guess. These phones are called smartphones for a reason, and should allow this kind of stuff. ios is like a cripple os. Even the system file manager is now essential to me. I use it every day to do several tasks, like move photos from one album to another, files from the internal memory to the SD card, deleting files, etc. Just like finder in Mac.

There are many, many things you can do with android that ios does not allow. It feels like you can do anything you need, and all this stuff is important nowadays.

Yes, you are absolutely right, the Android does MANY things iOS can't, and some of it is by choice. Many times it's about the "Why", rather than the "What". http://www.startwithwhy.com/

Apple designed iOS to be part of life, and so make it as easy as possible for ANYONE to use it. Apple also tries to partner with corporations to achieve the above goal, and so makes it easy for people to purchase movies, and load them on the devices.

You make your own choices:
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mproudfoot
Jul 12, 2012, 05:52 AM
To the OP - quite an interesting review, thanks.

I wonder, does anyone here who has managed to play around with the GS3, had a chance to test music playback? Specifically, I'm trying to find out if there's any way to get it to support gapless audio over USB - something, I believe, older android revisions/handsets were unable to do.

Additionally, what version of the AVRCP BT profile is used by default? IOS5 uses 1.3 or 1.4 I believe which allows music track control from the BT device (e.g. the car steering wheel) and also allows the track/album data to be sent to the device.

Finally, I use a pair of Klipsch X10i earphones and was wondering if anyone has tried a set of earphones with in-line controls on an S3? Does the controls still work?

Wrathwitch
Jul 12, 2012, 06:30 AM
Yeah, updates are a problem, thats why I said in my review go with the nexus (and because of optimization). Im no hurry right now since Im new to android and have many things to try and do first, but obviously my next phone will be the nexus from next year. The sgs3 will get JB so I didnt need to buy a nexus right now.

This is one of the reasons I waited for the device to hit stores before I considered purchasing one. If I didn't like the way the device worked AS IS, I would have just waited for next iPhone release. I knew I would be waiting possibly as long as 6-8 months for Telus to release the next update so I wanted to make sure that I was content with the unit in its present working condition.

iosuser
Jul 12, 2012, 10:07 AM
I've been using an iPhone since 3GS, then iPhone 4 and then 4S. I avoided Android all this time because I never thought I'd want to carry a bigger phone than a 3.5" iPhone, deal with the seemingly too many customization and menu options, or deal with the choppy performance of Android. All that changed when I received the Galaxy Nexus last week.

That screen is so much more spacious which allows me to view much more contents at once, especially useful in the maps application. The surprising thing is that it really is not much bulkier in my jeans pocket than the iPhone. I can't go back to the small screen any more.

Took me couple of days to get used to and make use of all the customizations and options, and now the iPhone seems downright boring. I'm a bit of a anti-clutter freak. All the different sizes widgets and stuff randomly spread all over the place in Android used to turn me off. My iPhone has two pages of folders containing 112 apps, neat but boring at the same time. With the ability to make folders in the newer Android versions, I can make it as boring as the iPhone or clutter it up much as I want. Good to have the choice and freedom.

UI smoothness wise, the Nexus with 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich is leaps over all other Android devices I've seen still running 2.x and even tablets on 3.x. Smoothness in UI operations are really on par with iOS now. Trust me I cannot stand choppy UI scrolling. Videos shot at less than 60fps are choppy to me. I'm holding my breath for my turn for the OTA 4.1.1 Jelly Bean upgrade which is supposed to make it even smoother.

This thread is about the GS3 and my Nexus is relevant how? Because I'm considering picking up the S3 today ;) I'd like to have more storage, and I'm eligible for an upgrade from AT&T. I might save the upgrade and wait for iPhone 5, but I don't see Apple putting a much larger screen on it, and I can't go back to having less than 1280x720 pixels any more.

Another thing I wanted to add, I avoided Google as it already knows WAY too much about me, and having an Android phone it'll even know my location 24x7 LOL. I switched to Bing for searches a while back. If I had a choice I'd rather pay more to not have my information sold, but I don't, and Google will get my info anyway using 99% of websites so I might as well use their services. Google Voice is a great "free" service!

jsbaugh
Jul 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
I'm another iphone lover that made the jump to the GS3 a couple of days ago. Wow, what a phone. Android has come a long way in the past year and in my opinion has probably surpassed iOS is many areas. If you are considering the jump, now is a good time. Don't take me for an Apple hater because everything else I own is Apple and appreciate many things of ios ecosystem. That was the hardest part leaving the iphone, as it synced with all my other Apple products. Something the S3 does not do.
Probably the biggest selling point to me was the larger screen, which makes it really hard to look at the IP4s now. Even if the GS3 doesnt have the pixel density of the iP4 you don't really notice it.
Overall I'm happy with the jump.

daveathall
Jul 12, 2012, 11:31 AM
I'm another iphone lover that made the jump to the GS3 a couple of days ago. Wow, what a phone. Android has come a long way in the past year and in my opinion has probably surpassed iOS is many areas. If you are considering the jump, now is a good time. Don't take me for an Apple hater because everything else I own is Apple and appreciate many things of ios ecosystem. That was the hardest part leaving the iphone, as it synced with all my other Apple products. Something the S3 does not do.
Probably the biggest selling point to me was the larger screen, which makes it really hard to look at the IP4s now. Even if the GS3 doesnt have the pixel density of the iP4 you don't really notice it.
Overall I'm happy with the jump.

I agree, Ive had this SGS3 for about a week, I wouldn't go back to the iPhone 4S now. Before the flaming, look at my signature for the amount of Apple products I own, hell, I even have the Apple battery charger.

kdarling
Jul 12, 2012, 12:01 PM
Another thing I wanted to add, I avoided Google as it already knows WAY too much about me, and having an Android phone it'll even know my location 24x7 LOL. I switched to Bing for searches a while back. If I had a choice I'd rather pay more to not have my information sold, but I don't, and Google will get my info anyway using 99% of websites so I might as well use their services. Google Voice is a great "free" service!

Google doesn't "sell your info" to anyone, any more than Apple does. On the contrary, they jealously guard the info about each user. That's how they both make their money off ads -- by keeping your info to themselves.

What Apple and Google do is sell ad slots, and anonymously serve an ad that fits your preferences and location and background. The ad company isn't involved and has no idea who or what you are, unless you click on an ad of course. Then they'll know you're interested.

As for location, Bing will know it too if you let it. If you're really concerned and want to lose location-based info, just go to Settings - Location and turn it off, same as on iOS. Sometimes individual apps have settings as well.

You can also go to your Google Dashboard (look it up) and delete things that Google thinks it knows about you... which are often wrong, btw, at least as far as age and sex go. You can even turn off personal ads.

iosuser
Jul 12, 2012, 01:40 PM
Well at least with Apple, one's info is not their primary source of revenue.. What was disturbing to me was one time I Googled something, and next thing I knew I have ads within a game on my iPad with relevant ads - my iPad had not used any Google services nor had I ever signed on to Gmail with it. Somehow Google was able to track me down and served me ads within that game :confused::eek:

Since I switched to Bing I've accumulated enough points to redeem for a whole whopping $5 Amazon gift code :D Before Microsoft discontinued the Bing cash back program, I earned almost $3000 from purchases I would have made any way. At least I had a nice payout for divulging my info to MS.. It was great while it lasted.

Anyway, took the GS3 for a good spin at the Costco kiosk during lunch. It was a brand new demo phone they'd just setup so it was still fresh. In fact I had to have the guy log in to their Google account before I could play with it. It was shockingly laggy even after I turned off the live wallpaper, and the thing was running hot even after a reboot. It was not running any of the AT&T demo like the phones you see at AT&T. I don't know what's up with that phone. No sale.

Google doesn't "sell your info" to anyone, any more than Apple does. On the contrary, they jealously guard the info about each user. That's how they both make their money off ads -- by keeping your info to themselves.

What Apple and Google do is sell ad slots, and anonymously serve an ad that fits your preferences and location and background. The ad company isn't involved and has no idea who or what you are, unless you click on an ad of course. Then they'll know you're interested.

As for location, Bing will know it too if you let it. If you're really concerned and want to lose location-based info, just go to Settings - Location and turn it off, same as on iOS. Sometimes individual apps have settings as well.

You can also go to your Google Dashboard (look it up) and delete things that Google thinks it knows about you... which are often wrong, btw, at least as far as age and sex go. You can even turn off personal ads.

Zaft
Jul 12, 2012, 01:51 PM
Well at least with Apple, one's info is not their primary source of revenue.. What was disturbing to me was one time I Googled something, and next thing I knew I have ads within a game on my iPad with relevant ads - my iPad had not used any Google services nor had I ever signed on to Gmail with it. Somehow Google was able to track me down and served me ads within that game :confused::eek:

Since I switched to Bing I've accumulated enough points to redeem for a whole whopping $5 Amazon gift code :D Before Microsoft discontinued the Bing cash back program, I earned almost $3000 from purchases I would have made any way. At least I had a nice payout for divulging my info to MS.. It was great while it lasted.

Anyway, took the GS3 for a good spin at the Costco kiosk during lunch. It was a brand new demo phone they'd just setup so it was still fresh. In fact I had to have the guy log in to their Google account before I could play with it. It was shockingly laggy even after I turned off the live wallpaper, and the thing was running hot even after a reboot. It was not running any of the AT&T demo like the phones you see at AT&T. I don't know what's up with that phone. No sale.

Something must of been wrong with it. Iv tried the GS3 in a couple stores and it was always smooth. The only thing I noticed is that the widgets reload sometimes when going back to the home screen.

kdarling
Jul 12, 2012, 02:09 PM
Well at least with Apple, one's info is not their primary source of revenue..

Heck, Apple probably knows more about us, in some ways, because of our iTunes accounts. Credit card, address, favorite songs.

What was disturbing to me was one time I Googled something, and next thing I knew I have ads within a game on my iPad with relevant ads - my iPad had not used any Google services nor had I ever signed on to Gmail with it. Somehow Google was able to track me down and served me ads within that game :confused::eek:

Was the game serving up Apple iAds or something else? Was it a Google or a Siri search?

Anyway, took the GS3 for a good spin at the Costco kiosk during lunch. It was a brand new demo phone they'd just setup so it was still fresh. In fact I had to have the guy log in to their Google account before I could play with it. It was shockingly laggy even after I turned off the live wallpaper, and the thing was running hot even after a reboot.

If the phone was just logged into an account, then the phone could be busy downloading... or trying to, if the connection wasn't great... that account's info, mail, contacts, apps, etc. It would probably seem laggy and be very hot from the radio going overtime, until it was all done.

OneMike
Jul 12, 2012, 02:18 PM
Had my S3 since June 20th. No regrets switching from iOS.

It's true there are pros and cons to both. Overall the S3 and android better suit my needs.

AustinIllini
Jul 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
I agree, Ive had this SGS3 for about a week, I wouldn't go back to the iPhone 4S now. Before the flaming, look at my signature for the amount of Apple products I own, hell, I even have the Apple battery charger.

I just love that you can install applications directly from chrome and all the customization. I remain concerned about the battery life, but I have yet to have a real problem.

iosuser
Jul 12, 2012, 02:46 PM
Was the game serving up Apple iAds or something else? Was it a Google or a Siri search?
The search was performed on my MBP on Google. I don't know if it was iAds or something else, the game was Nitro Nation Drag Racing on the iPad. I still remember what I was searching for, something related to Lexus. Then soon after I saw Lexus dealership ads in that game. I doubt it was coincidence.. It was almost creepy how it was able to follow me along to a difference device. Sorry to get OT but I thought that was very interesting.

If the phone was just logged into an account, then the phone could be busy downloading... or trying to, if the connection wasn't great... that account's info, mail, contacts, apps, etc. It would probably seem laggy and be very hot from the radio going overtime, until it was all done.
That was my first thought. I know that phone was not supposed to be laggy like that, but I'll hold off for now and see if I can make do with just 16GB on the Nexus.. I do want that S3 though for the better camera, the pop out video player, microSD slot along with USB mass storage transfer.

jvmxtra
Jul 12, 2012, 02:52 PM
nothing but the pros? no cons?? hmmmm ? This review is biased and flawed then... Even when I reviewed mba from 2011(which was by far the best and only ultrabook out there), there were pros and cons..

Please rewrite or disregard this whole review. (I used both iphone 4s and nexus .. I definitely think nexus has good stuff that 4s don't and vice versa.

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Having said above, I am most likely gonna change over to droid once I confirm that iphone 5 is another boring re-iteration.

I am not 100% sure what they are thinking over at apple.. but droid has improved or surpassed enough that consumer now has better choices.

AustinIllini
Jul 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
nothing but the pros? no cons?? hmmmm ? This review is biased and flawed then... Even when I reviewed mba from 2011(which was by far the best and only ultrabook out there), there were pros and cons..

The reviewer is concerned about the battery life. Being happy with a phone apparently isn't good enough. OP is aware of what the phone is capable of. That's fair and neither biased nor flawed.

jmgregory1
Jul 12, 2012, 03:41 PM
I'm always curious to hear people say the iPhone or iOS is boring. What exactly is it that you want or need iOS or the iPhone to do? I always seem to hear about being able to change this or change that. Customization seems to be the key.

Really, I'm curious to know how people are using their phones, iPhone or any Android powered phone to drive people to say that iOS is boring. I've used an Android phone and I understand the issues surrounding lagginess. That, for me, makes Android a no-go. My son had a new Windows phone that seemed smooth while navigating the tiles, but as soon as you got into an app, scrolling was choppy as heck. These things make daily use not worth it for me - and daily use means using my phone for business calls, business emails, texts, web, news apps and if I'm traveling, travel apps. Smoothness and ease of use (without lag) is what I want and need - plus a battery that can last a 12 hour day.

If I'm sitting at my desk and my phone is next to my computer, even if I'm on a call, chances are much greater that I'm looking at my computer than looking at my phone. So I couldn't care less whether there is some graphic representation of clouds floating around the screen (to show me it's cloudy outside) - while I sit next to my window on the world.

If I'm traveling and using my phone exclusively for voice, text and email, plus the usual web search and maybe a flight status check, I simply press, swipe and press to open whatever app I need. Are we really getting to the point where doing simple tasks like that are just asking too much? Are microwave ovens just too slow for you? If you were on the highway and in the express lane, do you find yourself wishing there was an express-express lane?

Or is speed not the issue, but you simply want to do things differently?

So is the "customization" that people like with Android really just putting lipstick on a pig? Not to say that in a bad way, but you just want to be able to look at a screen that is different? And if so, who are you trying to be different from? I know, for me, I could care less what someone else is using and I certainly do not look at their home or lock screens to compare to mine. That's just creepy if that's what you're doing.

I just want to get a sense - is Android vs Apple really just the same thing as Chevy vs Ford? Or Green Bay vs Chicago? Well as far as football goes we all know GB IS better than Chicago, so maybe that's not a good comparison. Maybe it's just always going to be the X brand vs Apple - because Apple seems to have always had the effect of creating an antagonistic response from whoever the competition is or wants to be. Think Apple vs Microsoft. Has Android replaced Microsoft?

To be "bored" with the iPhone - what do you want or need the phone to do? Is it the overexposed amoled screens that catch your fancy? Are you the type of person that really likes spending time in casinos at the slot machines, where they blink and flash and beep and chime?

If anyone can help enlighten me, I would greatly appreciate it.

mproudfoot
Jul 12, 2012, 04:09 PM
I'm always curious to hear people say the iPhone or iOS is boring....

I recall the early days of smartphones and people said something similar.. "why on earth do you need all that? surely a phone is for phones calls and the odd message?"

Anyway, the point (for me at least) is that there a lot of things people cannot do in iOS due to the walled garden that Apple has put around it. Customization is something people take for granted these days (by the sounds of it, your computer desktop is unchanged from the default setup right?) and there is a lot of functionality that can be added or even improved on in every eco-system - iOS is no exception and that explains why many (including myself) JB their handsets to add this additional functionality (SBSettings, RemoveBG, improved SMS apps, bluetooth sharing apps, app to allow you to change default browser etc etc).

Going back to your original question - I'd agree to an extent that 'boring' might be the wrong word to use - I'd probably replace it with 'restricted'- a more open eco-system such as Android offers so many more possibilities to make the phone your own.

Sensamic
Jul 12, 2012, 04:12 PM
nothing but the pros? no cons?? hmmmm ? This review is biased and flawed then... Even when I reviewed mba from 2011(which was by far the best and only ultrabook out there), there were pros and cons..

Please rewrite or disregard this whole review. (I used both iphone 4s and nexus .. I definitely think nexus has good stuff that 4s don't and vice versa.

----------

Having said above, I am most likely gonna change over to droid once I confirm that iphone 5 is another boring re-iteration.

I am not 100% sure what they are thinking over at apple.. but droid has improved or surpassed enough that consumer now has better choices.

You didnt see my cons?

Ill tell them to you again:

- Home screen redraw (a stupid bug from samsung that can be fixed with software updates and/or hacks)
- Bad screen on direct sunlight (really bad)
- Low brightness compared to IPS or LCD displays
- Hate home button (but also did on the iphone 4)
- S voice is awful
- Optimization could be better (this is one of the benefits of apple and its hardware, but we all know samsung is just trying to sell thousands of phones without optimizing their software. This is something we must accept considering apple only releases one phone)

Thats most of it. My phone does not lag (I have the quad core version) and it does not get too hot (and I have done heavy stuff on it).

Overall I say there are fewer cons than on ios, software speaking. iphone 4 had brighter screen and same battery life.

My two new favourite things to do on android:

- Downloading torrents (with ttorrent app).
- Playing my old games from when I was a kid with emulators such as Game Boy, Game Gear, Nintendo 64 and Playstation. They work tremendously well. Its way more awesome than the mobile games, although android has lots of the sames as iOS: super monkey ball, metal slug 3 (released today), nova, asphault, sonic, etc.

THE JUICEMAN
Jul 12, 2012, 04:41 PM
Would the best of both worlds be a jailbroken iPhone 5?

I switched to the Galaxy Nexus and it was nice. I would have considered keeping it if the battery life and screen were not so subpar.(put it next to an iPhone and you will see).

I am going to wait on iPhone 5 and see if apple surprises us. Then I will make a decision to get it and jailbreak to avoid the boredom or get a new nexus device.

lordofthereef
Jul 12, 2012, 04:42 PM
The search was performed on my MBP on Google. I don't know if it was iAds or something else, the game was Nitro Nation Drag Racing on the iPad. I still remember what I was searching for, something related to Lexus. Then soon after I saw Lexus dealership ads in that game. I doubt it was coincidence.. It was almost creepy how it was able to follow me along to a difference device. Sorry to get OT but I thought that was very interesting.


If you maintain that you did not log into any google account on your phone, then it was undoubtedly coincidence, no matter how much it feels like it wasn't. Without logging in, in any way, there is no way they can associate that you are the user of both devices.

Sensamic
Jul 12, 2012, 04:56 PM
Would the best of both worlds be a jailbroken iPhone 5?

I switched to the Galaxy Nexus and it was nice. I would have considered keeping it if the battery life and screen were not so subpar.(put it next to an iPhone and you will see).

I am going to wait on iPhone 5 and see if apple surprises us. Then I will make a decision to get it and jailbreak to avoid the boredom or get a new nexus device.

I believe that to have a similar battery life than iphone every android should have a battery of at least 2000mah, just like the SGS3 or so. Below that you will have a short battery life. That is another reason I went with the SGS3 instead of the nexus.

There are two clear choices:

- On iOS you get every update on time, which is great, but you wont get the kind of functionality you want (in my case: widgets, true multitasking, emulators, customization without needing to jailbreak or root, downloading torrents and a whole other bunch of stuff).

- On Android you wont get as many updates but you will get all the functionality you want.


I think it all comes down to those two choices.

cynics
Jul 12, 2012, 05:28 PM
nothing but the pros? no cons?? hmmmm ? This review is biased and flawed then... Even when I reviewed mba from 2011(which was by far the best and only ultrabook out there), there were pros and cons..

Please rewrite or disregard this whole review. (I used both iphone 4s and nexus .. I definitely think nexus has good stuff that 4s don't and vice versa.

----------

Having said above, I am most likely gonna change over to droid once I confirm that iphone 5 is another boring re-iteration.

I am not 100% sure what they are thinking over at apple.. but droid has improved or surpassed enough that consumer now has better choices.

You're only seeing what you want too see. Reread it.

EDIT: nvm I see the op already commented back.

THE JUICEMAN
Jul 12, 2012, 05:37 PM
I believe that to have a similar battery life than iphone every android should have a battery of at least 2000mah, just like the SGS3 or so. Below that you will have a short battery life. That is another reason I went with the SGS3 instead of the nexus.

There are two clear choices:

- On iOS you get every update on time, which is great, but you wont get the kind of functionality you want (in my case: widgets, true multitasking, emulators, customization without needing to jailbreak or root, downloading torrents and a whole other bunch of stuff).

- On Android you wont get as many updates but you will get all the functionality you want.


I think it all comes down to those two choices.

Agreed.

For me it's either iPhone 5 hacked or one of the next Nexus devices (the one with the best battery life).

I would just like to also mention that I share your strong dislike for the home buttons on both the iPhone and the SG3. Should be capacitive no question about it.

chokem
Jul 12, 2012, 05:48 PM
Nicely done honest review. Both platforms have their strong points and weaknesses. The s3 looks tempting, and I may even give it a shot if the i5 seems mediocre to me. That being said, I did have an HTC Inspire, which I realize was not a flagship Android, and didn't care for it. I'm hearing good things about the s3 and also the HTC OneX.

Ugg
Jul 12, 2012, 05:49 PM
If you want a true powerful os android is the way to go. If you want a nice and simple os then ios is the better choice. Android is just growing at a much much faster pace than ios in hardware and software. The best choice in android is to go with the new nexus.

You don't having a problem with Google having access to all your data and monetizing it? That's my biggest issue with Android, Google has ceased following its "Do no evil." guidelines.

Dunbar
Jul 12, 2012, 06:59 PM
I recall the early days of smartphones and people said something similar.. "why on earth do you need all that? surely a phone is for phones calls and the odd message?"

I agree, I think it's because iOS simply omits a lot of features Android has. It's kind of hard for iPhone users to miss a feature they've never used. Android tends to release features that may not work perfectly out of the gate like iOS. Anyways, after using my S3 for 2 days just the lock screen functionality on stock Touchwiz is a big improvement from iOS:

-Don't need to unlock the phone to see the outside temperature or stock prices (or news feed if you choose.)
-Ability to jump to four (custom set) apps directly from the lock screen.
-Full access to the notification bar from the lock screen. So in addition to toggling stuff without unlocking the phone you can jump directly into an unread e-mail, SMS, tweet etc. With Jelly Bean you'll be able to read the messages in the notification bar itself.

I can almost hear iPhone users saying "is it that hard to unlock the phone?" No, but it wastes time performing some very basic tasks which adds up over the course of the day.

lordofthereef
Jul 12, 2012, 07:06 PM
You don't having a problem with Google having access to all your data and monetizing it? That's my biggest issue with Android, Google has ceased following its "Do no evil." guidelines.
I don't necessarily feel that my anonymous (as in not linked to my name in any way) web history and such really is accessing my data and that is all that google is doing. FWIW it happens on your desktop browser too, as well as in iAds, albeit to a lesser extent.

jvmxtra
Jul 12, 2012, 08:22 PM
You didnt see my cons?

Ill tell them to you again:

- Home screen redraw (a stupid bug from samsung that can be fixed with software updates and/or hacks)
- Bad screen on direct sunlight (really bad)
- Low brightness compared to IPS or LCD displays
- Hate home button (but also did on the iphone 4)
- S voice is awful
- Optimization could be better (this is one of the benefits of apple and its hardware, but we all know samsung is just trying to sell thousands of phones without optimizing their software. This is something we must accept considering apple only releases one phone)

Thats most of it. My phone does not lag (I have the quad core version) and it does not get too hot (and I have done heavy stuff on it).

Overall I say there are fewer cons than on ios, software speaking. iphone 4 had brighter screen and same battery life.

My two new favourite things to do on android:

- Downloading torrents (with ttorrent app).
- Playing my old games from when I was a kid with emulators such as Game Boy, Game Gear, Nintendo 64 and Playstation. They work tremendously well. Its way more awesome than the mobile games, although android has lots of the sames as iOS: super monkey ball, metal slug 3 (released today), nova, asphault, sonic, etc.

Got you. I was looking for cons section since you labeled pros section so clearly. I overlooked it.

jkim3691
Jul 12, 2012, 08:44 PM
I believe that to have a similar battery life than iphone every android should have a battery of at least 2000mah, just like the SGS3 or so. Below that you will have a short battery life. That is another reason I went with the SGS3 instead of the nexus.

There are two clear choices:

- On iOS you get every update on time, which is great, but you wont get the kind of functionality you want (in my case: widgets, true multitasking, emulators, customization without needing to jailbreak or root, downloading torrents and a whole other bunch of stuff).

- On Android you wont get as many updates but you will get all the functionality you want.


I think it all comes down to those two choices.

Have either of you tried buying the extended battery in addition to underclocking the phone? I have friends who have underclocked with extended batteries and they get well beyond better battery life than my 4s.

If you think that's a hassle I don't fault you for wanting to stick with the iPhone, but that kind of stuff I don't mind doing. Ordered a Nexus earlier today. Have used the iPhone since the original came out. Bought a 3GS and am using a 4s now. I needed a change and I really like the way the Nexus is set up. I thought I needed a change from iOS when I had the 3GS too, but Android OS' weren't all that great back then so I stuck with iOS.

THE JUICEMAN
Jul 12, 2012, 09:25 PM
Have either of you tried buying the extended battery in addition to underclocking the phone? I have friends who have underclocked with extended batteries and they get well beyond better battery life than my 4s.

If you think that's a hassle I don't fault you for wanting to stick with the iPhone, but that kind of stuff I don't mind doing. Ordered a Nexus earlier today. Have used the iPhone since the original came out. Bought a 3GS and am using a 4s now. I needed a change and I really like the way the Nexus is set up. I thought I needed a change from iOS when I had the 3GS too, but Android OS' weren't all that great back then so I stuck with iOS.

I wouldn't mind doing that. But I dont think i really should habe to. I'm going to give Apple one last chance to wow me. Hopefully it will be a very tough choice this fall between iPhone 5 and one of the new Nexus devices.

bidwalj
Jul 12, 2012, 11:16 PM
I agree, I think it's because iOS simply omits a lot of features Android has. It's kind of hard for iPhone users to miss a feature they've never used. Android tends to release features that may not work perfectly out of the gate like iOS. Anyways, after using my S3 for 2 days just the lock screen functionality on stock Touchwiz is a big improvement from iOS:

-Don't need to unlock the phone to see the outside temperature or stock prices (or news feed if you choose.)
-Ability to jump to four (custom set) apps directly from the lock screen.
-Full access to the notification bar from the lock screen. So in addition to toggling stuff without unlocking the phone you can jump directly into an unread e-mail, SMS, tweet etc. With Jelly Bean you'll be able to read the messages in the notification bar itself.

I can almost hear iPhone users saying "is it that hard to unlock the phone?" No, but it wastes time performing some very basic tasks which adds up over the course of the day.

I'm curious to know if you can pull down the notification bar with a password? On a nexus I could not do that unless I had no password and it was a pain to have to enter the password everytime to just check what the notification was.

iosuser
Jul 13, 2012, 08:41 AM
Yes like another posted pointed, what I really meant was restricted. I'm a bit of a control freak, and I love the very detailed battery consumption information on Android. I know, being a control freak the worse phone to use is probably the iphone LOL, but at the time there was simply no other phone that gives the fluid smoothness of the iPhone UI. I am extremely picky about having a smooth UI in all my devices.

No I couldn't care less if everyone had the same home screen as I do. But I do love the gallery widget that lets me view new photos right on the home screen. And having a graphical representation of the weather condition, even though that information is easily obtained by a quick glance out your window, is less "boring" than having a bunch of static icons, no? And yes that AMOLED screen is so saturated with colors it makes everything look like a cartoon. My interest is in the increased screen real estate.

I received the OTA Jelly Bean upgrade on my Nexus. It is now absolutely iPhone smooth in all its operations. What surprised me was that even with Flash elements turned on, scrolling through webpages is still fast and smooth. I started an Amazon movie streaming in the browser and there was no lag scrolling around while the movie was playing. Yes I hate Flash, it's only enabled on demand even on my computers, but at least you can with Android.

I used to resist change. I used a Motorola Razor dumb phone for nearly FIVE YEARS before I even considered a smartphone, and I'm the gadgets freak among friends and family. Even the non gadgets-savvy people I know asked why I was still using an ancient phone. It really opened my eyes when I bit and bought the Blackberry Storm (don't ask :p), then quickly changed to the iPhone 3GS after. So I understand if you resist change, but if you decide to give it a try it may open your eyes too :)

I'm always curious to hear people say the iPhone or iOS is boring. What exactly is it that you want or need iOS or the iPhone to do? I always seem to hear about being able to change this or change that. Customization seems to be the key.

Really, I'm curious to know how people are using their phones, iPhone or any Android powered phone to drive people to say that iOS is boring. I've used an Android phone and I understand the issues surrounding lagginess. That, for me, makes Android a no-go. My son had a new Windows phone that seemed smooth while navigating the tiles, but as soon as you got into an app, scrolling was choppy as heck. These things make daily use not worth it for me - and daily use means using my phone for business calls, business emails, texts, web, news apps and if I'm traveling, travel apps. Smoothness and ease of use (without lag) is what I want and need - plus a battery that can last a 12 hour day.

If I'm sitting at my desk and my phone is next to my computer, even if I'm on a call, chances are much greater that I'm looking at my computer than looking at my phone. So I couldn't care less whether there is some graphic representation of clouds floating around the screen (to show me it's cloudy outside) - while I sit next to my window on the world.

If I'm traveling and using my phone exclusively for voice, text and email, plus the usual web search and maybe a flight status check, I simply press, swipe and press to open whatever app I need. Are we really getting to the point where doing simple tasks like that are just asking too much? Are microwave ovens just too slow for you? If you were on the highway and in the express lane, do you find yourself wishing there was an express-express lane?

Or is speed not the issue, but you simply want to do things differently?

So is the "customization" that people like with Android really just putting lipstick on a pig? Not to say that in a bad way, but you just want to be able to look at a screen that is different? And if so, who are you trying to be different from? I know, for me, I could care less what someone else is using and I certainly do not look at their home or lock screens to compare to mine. That's just creepy if that's what you're doing.

I just want to get a sense - is Android vs Apple really just the same thing as Chevy vs Ford? Or Green Bay vs Chicago? Well as far as football goes we all know GB IS better than Chicago, so maybe that's not a good comparison. Maybe it's just always going to be the X brand vs Apple - because Apple seems to have always had the effect of creating an antagonistic response from whoever the competition is or wants to be. Think Apple vs Microsoft. Has Android replaced Microsoft?

To be "bored" with the iPhone - what do you want or need the phone to do? Is it the overexposed amoled screens that catch your fancy? Are you the type of person that really likes spending time in casinos at the slot machines, where they blink and flash and beep and chime?

If anyone can help enlighten me, I would greatly appreciate it.

NikeTalk
Jul 13, 2012, 08:42 AM
The S3's battery runs circles around the iPhone. No way an iPhone last longer.

Zaft
Jul 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
Yes like another posted pointed, what I really meant was restricted. I'm a bit of a control freak, and I love the very detailed battery consumption information on Android. I know, being a control freak the worse phone to use is probably the iphone LOL, but at the time there was simply no other phone that gives the fluid smoothness of the iPhone UI. I am extremely picky about having a smooth UI in all my devices.

No I couldn't care less if everyone had the same home screen as I do. But I do love the gallery widget that lets me view new photos right on the home screen. And having a graphical representation of the weather condition, even though that information is easily obtained by a quick glance out your window, is less "boring" than having a bunch of static icons, no? And yes that AMOLED screen is so saturated with colors it makes everything look like a cartoon. My interest is in the increased screen real estate.

I received the OTA Jelly Bean upgrade on my Nexus. It is now absolutely iPhone smooth in all its operations. What surprised me was that even with Flash elements turned on, scrolling through webpages is still fast and smooth. I started an Amazon movie streaming in the browser and there was no lag scrolling around while the movie was playing. Yes I hate Flash, it's only enabled on demand even on my computers, but at least you can with Android.

I used to resist change. I used a Motorola Razor dumb phone for nearly FIVE YEARS before I even considered a smartphone, and I'm the gadgets freak among friends and family. Even the non gadgets-savvy people I know asked why I was still using an ancient phone. It really opened my eyes when I bit and bought the Blackberry Storm (don't ask :p), then quickly changed to the iPhone 3GS after. So I understand if you resist change, but if you decide to give it a try it may open your eyes too :)

care to explain how you have flash on JB when its not supported..

iosuser
Jul 13, 2012, 11:25 AM
care to explain how you have flash on JB when its not supported..

I have Flash installed from ICS. It continues to work after Jelly Bean was installed.

matttye
Jul 13, 2012, 12:05 PM
I agree with most of your review.

Sunlight legibility on full brightness for me is excellent, it's near perfect. You're not the first to comment on the screen in that way and it makes me wonder if there's a difference between the US and international versions; I have the international one.

I also agree that Android is easier to use! I don't know if this makes sense, but "harder to learn, easier to use" sums it up perfectly to me :p

It's a little bit harder to learn how to use Android, but once you do it's infinitely more easy and intuitive to use than iOS.

Dunbar
Jul 13, 2012, 12:48 PM
I'm curious to know if you can pull down the notification bar with a password?

Nope, but I think that's by design. I don't run any security on the lock screen because it's too much hassle and my IT department can do a remote wipe.

bjones521
Jul 13, 2012, 01:11 PM
I just switched to the S3 for only 14 days. I didnt really have the money so I just returned the phone today. I think I may end up buying the phone at the end of the month tho.

I have one question for those with android phones who had/have ios devises like myself. Do you think the next iphone can take advantage of 4G? What i mean by that is when I was using my S3 i was able to download music, download torrents, use a great youtube app!, use my phone as a hotspot without rooting (foxfi). All things you cant do on iOS. And I was just wondering.......Do IOS users like myself even really need super fast 4g if you cant do "power user" tasks? I don't miss 4g now that Im back on my 4s but man I loved it on my S3! Maybe its because I'm restricted to doing what apple wants me to do.

mattopotamus
Jul 13, 2012, 01:23 PM
I just switched to the S3 for only 14 days. I didnt really have the money so I just returned the phone today. I think I may end up buying the phone at the end of the month tho.

I have one question for those with android phones who had/have ios devises like myself. Do you think the next iphone can take advantage of 4G? What i mean by that is when I was using my S3 i was able to download music, download torrents, use a great youtube app!, use my phone as a hotspot without rooting (foxfi). All things you cant do on iOS. And I was just wondering.......Do IOS users like myself even really need super fast 4g if you cant do "power user" tasks? I don't miss 4g now that Im back on my 4s but man I loved it on my S3! Maybe its because I'm restricted to doing what apple wants me to do.

they wont let you use it at a hotspot IMO

Razeus
Jul 13, 2012, 02:04 PM
Depending on what Apple does this fall, I may go rogue gentlemen. I've been watching Android for some time and I feel that Jelly Bean is what's going to get me to switch. I use a ton of Google products anyway so it's not like it's all that new to me.

The Galaxy S3, after playing with it is phenomenal. The app interoperatability is AMAZING. It's always frustrated me about the lack of openness between apps and getting files/data to and from them and posting them online. Google Now feature looks amazing as well.

Heck, the Nexus 7 looks great. I can literally sell my iPad 3 and get 2 Nexus 7's!

The camera is a huge thing for me and I've like iPhone's hardware. But the S3 changes that, plus what I've seen on my friends GS3, it has wayyyyy more options for taking a photo. Again, Apple seems like they give JUST enough and that's it.

But we'll see. I'm sure the grass is not that much greener on the other side, but some things Apple does really ticks me off.

spiderman0616
Jul 13, 2012, 02:13 PM
Let me get this straight--

Samsung comes out with a new phone, and it looks like most of you believe this spells the end of iOS--even going as far as to say iOS is the new Blackberry.

I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion right away.

jkim3691
Jul 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
Let me get this straight--

Samsung comes out with a new phone, and it looks like most of you believe this spells the end of iOS--even going as far as to say iOS is the new Blackberry.

I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion right away.

Much hasn't changed in iOS.

Razeus
Jul 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
Let me get this straight--

Samsung comes out with a new phone, and it looks like most of you believe this spells the end of iOS--even going as far as to say iOS is the new Blackberry.

I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion right away.

No one says this is the end of iOS. It's a fine OS. But Google has jumped leaps and bounds over iOS (for me) with Jelly Bean that people are beginning to realize Apple has us in a Walled Garden. We realize that Apple deliberately excludes features that gives JUST enough, but doesn't go all the way. Why can't the native Camera app in iOS show me the square format? Why can't I send that photo straight to Instagram right after I snap? Why can't I use another camera app as my default camera from the lock screen? It's little things like that, in Apple's quest to keep us using their apps, that is really hurting them. Heck, why can't I use Sparrow as my default mail client instead of iOS trying to load Mail?

lordofthereef
Jul 13, 2012, 02:20 PM
Let me get this straight--

Samsung comes out with a new phone, and it looks like most of you believe this spells the end of iOS--even going as far as to say iOS is the new Blackberry.

I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion right away.

Nope, you didn't get that straight. That isn't what is being said... by anyone, as far as I can tell.

Dunbar
Jul 13, 2012, 03:07 PM
This picture pretty much sums up why I switched to the S3. Reading and web browsing is just a vastly superior experience on the 4.8" screen and LTE. There's no red tinge in person BTW.

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AustinIllini
Jul 13, 2012, 03:16 PM
The S3's battery runs circles around the iPhone. No way an iPhone last longer.

I think it runs circles around other android devices, but I still think it's a little behind the iPhone.

This picture pretty much sums up why I switched to the S3. Reading and web browsing is just a vastly superior experience on the 4.8" screen and LTE. There's no red tinge in person BTW.

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It is a giant phone, isn't it?

Vegastouch
Jul 13, 2012, 03:29 PM
The settings toggles in the notification area are just essential now. I can enable and disable 3G in 2 seconds when in ios it took me longer (on stock obviously. I had my phone jailbreaked). There are many useful toggles like wifi, 3g, bluetooth (real BT thank god), power saving mode, synchronization, gps, etc. All are useful.

I dont know if you have the Uk version or not but i dont have the option to disable 4G or 3G on mine. I cant find that option anywhere within the phone. The battery is still good without it but figured if im not in a good 4G area, i could turn it off to save even more battery.

Sensamic
Jul 13, 2012, 03:33 PM
Another great thing about Android is that its so desperately trying to win agaisnt iOS that Google will keep bringing new features iOS will never have or take years to have, like offline voice typing, Google now, Android Beam, etc.

They even want to make something much better than Siri, and then we get the new search Voice app.

We users benefit from this. More and more features and making old ones even better (offline Voice typing and the new search for example).

Just look at iOS 6 and compare. Android is improving its software really really fast including new awesome features. iOS is not doing that anymore (if it ever did, since I wouldnt call awesome features including folders, wallpapers and such in iOS 4, for example. They are not even features really. The same goes for FaceTime 3G or changing the look of the app stores and the Weather app...).

I dont know if you have the Uk version or not but i dont have the option to disable 4G or 3G on mine. I cant find that option anywhere within the phone. The battery is still good without it but figured if im not in a good 4G area, i could turn it off to save even more battery.

I dont have 4G on my country. My option is to enable 3G or disable it.

f00f
Jul 13, 2012, 03:33 PM
I've made the switch as well, from iPhone 4S to the international/unlocked SGS3 running on AT&T.

It's night-and-day. Android has come a long way since I last used it (original Moto Droid, and HTC Incredible) & Jelly Bean looks promising. I'm impressed so far, so much so that I have a Nexus 7 on the way too.

My only gripe is the apparent lack of USB Mass Storage support on the SGS3. Other phones with ICS have it (even the SGS2) but the SGS3 appears stuck with MTP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol) and PTP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picture_Transfer_Protocol) only.

bidwalj
Jul 13, 2012, 04:07 PM
Nope, but I think that's by design. I don't run any security on the lock screen because it's too much hassle and my IT department can do a remote wipe.

Thats an issue i can't get over on android. I can't get my work exchange email to work without a password and the way stock android was you can't see the preview or anything for emails and texts without putting in the password each and every time. Thats a deal breaker for me. At least with iOS you can get a preview and see if its important or not.

amps
Jul 13, 2012, 04:35 PM
I think it runs circles around other android devices, but I still think it's a little behind the iPhone.



It is a giant phone, isn't it?

Its actually pretty light and fits in the front jeans pocket fine. I know it looks huge but its very manageable. Had a streak for a while and that thing was way too big. I've gone through every iPhone model, including the 4s just recently. I purchased the S3 after missing the larger screen size of my sgs2.

One handed use is a bit more challenging than the iPhone.

Its a good phone, looking forward to see what apple does and I'm sure I'll be back if they get the screen up to 4.3 or so.

Grolubao
Jul 13, 2012, 08:06 PM
This picture pretty much sums up why I switched to the S3. Reading and web browsing is just a vastly superior experience on the 4.8" screen and LTE. There's no red tinge in person BTW.

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That's just... Damn... I'm just waiting to see that Apple has on their sleeves, but most likely I'll jump ship

The iGentleman
Jul 13, 2012, 11:21 PM
care to explain how you have flash on JB when its not supported..

Flash isn't officially supported but still works. Adobe just isn't going to be updating it, or officially certifying for any more versions of Android.