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KarlJay
Jul 14, 2012, 12:01 AM
Looks like the iPhoneDevSDK forum is gone. I know they've been hammered with virus problems for a while and Google says they had a bunch of malware and other problems.
Anyone been able to get on there?



samdev
Jul 14, 2012, 03:54 AM
Looks like the iPhoneDevSDK forum is gone. I know they've been hammered with virus problems for a while and Google says they had a bunch of malware and other problems.
Anyone been able to get on there?

http://www.iphonedevsdk.com/


Site Suspended
This site has been suspended. Please contact the site administrator for more information.


No idea what happened. Maybe their site got hacked or something. The forum seems to be
missing from the server.

yijo99
Jul 14, 2012, 08:18 PM
A couple of weeks ago I was still able to access the site even after getting a warning from Google. Today, it simply says "the site is suspended". :(

jnoxx
Jul 15, 2012, 01:03 PM
I have been on there for a long time, but then I found Macrumors, which was a much better userbase, friendlier, and less spamming!

idelovski
Jul 15, 2012, 01:43 PM
Could be related to DNSChanger?

KarlJay
Jul 15, 2012, 09:41 PM
I have been on there for a long time, but then I found Macrumors, which was a much better userbase, friendlier, and less spamming!

I like both, but I think that one has more selection of topics, business/legal/marketing... I mainly went there for that. MacRumors doesn't have a lot of business/marketing discussion.


I don't think it's a DNS thing, it looks like it just wasn't managed well. Sites get attacked all the time... some people have too much time on their hands...

dacapo
Jul 15, 2012, 10:49 PM
Wow, just wow. What about all that collective knowledge that the site had gathered up over the years? All gone in a poof?:confused:

KarlJay
Jul 15, 2012, 11:36 PM
Wow, just wow. What about all that collective knowledge that the site had gathered up over the years? All gone in a poof?:confused:

I really don't know where it's stored, but it must be hosted somewhere. They had problems before and they've come back, so we'll just have to check back and see if they get their act together.

TouchMint.com
Jul 16, 2012, 02:46 PM
Business marketing forum was my fav read of the day. I learned almost everything I know about the app store on there.

I really really hope its not lost that site was great and while macrumors is pretty good they dont really have a business marketing subforum.

KarlJay
Jul 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Business marketing forum was my fav read of the day. I learned almost everything I know about the app store on there.

I really really hope its not lost that site was great and while macrumors is pretty good they dont really have a business marketing subforum.

Yea, I think I remember you from there. We might have lost a good learning tool.

samdev
Jul 16, 2012, 04:04 PM
Maybe someone didn't pay the bills and let it run out. How did that site make money anyway?
Ads, donations, or self-funded?

KarlJay
Jul 16, 2012, 06:43 PM
I think they make money on the ads that the site runs and probably donations. However, I don't think the site costs that much and they've been hit with these virus problems / attacks before so I think that's where the problem lies.

I know of some other forum sites that were hit as well, so it looks like they're not alone, but their response time is concerning. Last time it took about a week for them to get back online.

bindle
Jul 17, 2012, 04:56 AM
The admins there haven't been very proactive about keeping the site healthy over the past year or so. Wish they'd pass it on to someone who will give it the attention it needs.
It's a great resource - as mentioned the business & promotion techniques forums there are a great read and it's got a wealth of useful threads to search through. Fair enough if it's been attacked, but they could at least mention something on the twitter page, @iphonedevsdk

KarlJay
Jul 17, 2012, 05:12 AM
The admins there haven't been very proactive about keeping the site healthy over the past year or so. Wish they'd pass it on to someone who will give it the attention it needs.
It's a great resource - as mentioned the business & promotion techniques forums there are a great read and it's got a wealth of useful threads to search through. Fair enough if it's been attacked, but they could at least mention something on the twitter page, @iphonedevsdk

Same here, I wish they'd just pass it off to someone else and let them deal with it.

That actually brings up a great idea for a new thread:
Someone should start a new thread about iOS dev resources.

One problem with iOS is that it changes so fast that some information/tutorials aren't of value any more. I've seen so many answers that are from 2008/2009 that it makes it a hassle to get what you want.

I'd really like to see more business/legal/promotions info and less "... I just started..." threads.

Tex-Twil
Jul 17, 2012, 07:50 AM
The iPhone SDK forum was very good. I git much more help from there as from the official Apple Dev forum. :(

Which alternative iOS dev forum will you now use?

jnoxx
Jul 17, 2012, 07:54 AM
The iPhone SDK forum was very good. I git much more help from there as from the official Apple Dev forum. :(

Which alternative iOS dev forum will you now use?

This forum? :s
I've gotten better help here.

Greencardman
Jul 17, 2012, 09:11 AM
I started a push to get a forum devoted to the business side but didn't see much interest. If iPhone SDK forum is really gone, maybe we can try again. You should check out and make a comment in this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1341080

I also have a running list of articles devoted to the non-programming side of things for people to keep track of, updated regularly: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1343399

Duncan C
Jul 17, 2012, 09:22 AM
Looks like the iPhoneDevSDK forum is gone. I know they've been hammered with virus problems for a while and Google says they had a bunch of malware and other problems.
Anyone been able to get on there?

It's weird how that site just died with no warning. I was one of the top contributors to the development forums, and BAM, it shows up as suspended with no warning.

The owners/admins of the site have been conspicuous in their absence for quite a while. The moderators seem to have been running the show.

Strange and frustrating. I invested a lot of time in that site.

Kuda-
Jul 17, 2012, 10:39 AM
Yeah, I really miss that place. I came here hoping to find a better business & legal aswell as marketing & promotion forum.

KarlJay
Jul 17, 2012, 12:02 PM
It's weird how that site just died with no warning. I was one of the top contributors to the development forums, and BAM, it shows up as suspended with no warning.

The owners/admins of the site have been conspicuous in their absence for quite a while. The moderators seem to have been running the show.

Strange and frustrating. I invested a lot of time in that site.

I remember you, you did some great posts!

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This forum? :s
I've gotten better help here.
It's actually different. The help here is more programming, there it's more business of app dev.

With many of the devs being independants, there's a need for help in other areas.

There were many posts about advertising, sales, taxes, promotions and several posted their results.

Let's face it, the AppStore is flooded with apps (crapps?), we need all the help we can get to become noticed.

They just had a huge thread about Apple's search engine change and the effects it had on their apps. Pretty important info for someone dependant on their sales.

firewood
Jul 17, 2012, 12:16 PM
It's weird how that site just died with no warning. I was one of the top contributors to the development forums, and BAM, it shows up as suspended with no warning.
...
Strange and frustrating. I invested a lot of time in that site.

Maybe we can get you, and some of the other top contributors of good information, to repost their most informative stuff here? (That would be great!)

Hopefully you kept some copies...

bignoggins
Jul 17, 2012, 12:49 PM
I didn't frequent the tech stuff much but the business forum was invaluable. If Macrumors had a separate business of iOS forums I would post but as is it's a waste of time to sort through all the UITableView problem threads to find the ones I'm interested in.

dejo
Jul 17, 2012, 12:50 PM
Can't seem to find anything via Google Cache either.

arn
Jul 17, 2012, 01:15 PM
I didn't frequent the tech stuff much but the business forum was invaluable. If Macrumors had a separate business of iOS forums I would post but as is it's a waste of time to sort through all the UITableView problem threads to find the ones I'm interested in.

I'm open to it. iPhoneDevSDK was a good resource. Guess no one knows what happened to it?

arn

LEARN2MAKE
Jul 17, 2012, 01:29 PM
Crazy that iPhoneDevSDK is gone. I hope it comes back. I learned a TON there too. Plus there was a thread on the recent non-payment by mobclix and that was the place I could get updated on the developments since mobclix owes a lot of devs money.

Greencardman
Jul 17, 2012, 02:01 PM
Hey Arn, what would we need to do to get a business dev forum up and running? Do you need anything from the community? Mod volunteers, forum suggestions?

TouchMint.com
Jul 17, 2012, 02:26 PM
I didn't frequent the tech stuff much but the business forum was invaluable. If Macrumors had a separate business of iOS forums I would post but as is it's a waste of time to sort through all the UITableView problem threads to find the ones I'm interested in.

it would be great to have a business/marketing subforum here.

firewood
Jul 17, 2012, 03:21 PM
iOS biz dev forum?

I'm open to it.

I vote yes. (How does one make a voting page here?)

samdev
Jul 17, 2012, 03:39 PM
I know of some other forum sites that were hit as well, so it looks like they're not alone, but their response time is concerning. Last time it took about a week for them to get back online.

Maybe it's a good sign it's taking longer that usual.

If they came back quickly, then it would mean nothing has changed. It would be business as usual with
the same problems as before.

But, if it took longer, perhaps it means somebody is actually trying to fix the problem, find a new
forum with better security and spam-filtering, fix a database problem, or whatever the case.

HemiMG
Jul 17, 2012, 03:46 PM
It's nice to see some familiar names here in this thread at least. But it is sad that all of the information that had been shared in that forum might be gone. They are still listed at buyads.com, but I hope they aren't still taking orders. According to that site though, the parent company is appstorehq which still works fine.
The Business, Legal, and Marketing forum over there was like my water cooler. It's where I went everyday to get a break from coding and catch up on the happenings on the app store. If it is gone for good, I'll be sad.

samdev
Jul 18, 2012, 04:37 AM
It's nice to see some familiar names here in this thread at least. But it is sad that all of the information that had been shared in that forum might be gone. They are still listed at buyads.com, but I hope they aren't still taking orders. According to that site though, the parent company is appstorehq which still works fine.
The Business, Legal, and Marketing forum over there was like my water cooler. It's where I went everyday to get a break from coding and catch up on the happenings on the app store. If it is gone for good, I'll be sad.

I always checked the 'appstore wait thread' when I have submitted apps, since I never know how long I have to wait.
I read that the wait can be up to 14 days now. That's almost half a month! I can probably create a new app
just waiting now.

jnoxx
Jul 18, 2012, 04:51 AM
I always checked the 'appstore wait thread' when I have submitted apps, since I never know how long I have to wait.
I read that the wait can be up to 14 days now. That's almost half a month! I can probably create a new app
just waiting now.

Just accepting an update took me 2 weeks last time ^_-

arn
Jul 18, 2012, 10:17 AM
I created a new forum, and moved this thread to it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158

arn

bignoggins
Jul 18, 2012, 10:59 AM
Just accepting an update took me 2 weeks last time ^_-

just created the app store wait thread =)

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I created a new forum, and moved this thread to it.

http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=158

arn

thanks arn! hoping we get some high quality discussion here. the quality of the iPhoneDevSDK forums was going downhill anyway

clarky07
Jul 18, 2012, 11:25 AM
I hate to see iphonedevsdk down/gone but it's good to see this new dev section here. As others have said I found the business/legal/app store section to be invaluable.

jclardy
Jul 18, 2012, 11:45 AM
Maybe someone didn't pay the bills and let it run out. How did that site make money anyway?
Ads, donations, or self-funded?

Developers could buy ad space to advertise their apps. Although I feel it was a bit wasted as most games/apps on there weren't targeted at developers.

LEARN2MAKE
Jul 18, 2012, 12:39 PM
Hey if noggins and clarky are here its already a party!

dacapo
Jul 18, 2012, 01:38 PM
Awesome, thanks for making this!

My two daily go-to sites were MR and iPhoneDevSDK. Now it'll be MR only.:cool:

EDIT: Hmm, it looks like the errors on the iPhoneDevSDK forum have changed. I wonder if they're planning on bringing the forum back online.. If so, the question is: should we continue to rely on iPhoneDevSDK or not?

esoter1c
Jul 18, 2012, 02:23 PM
Seems the forum is back online right now. I was able to sign in..it seems the forum is different now though

Kuda-
Jul 18, 2012, 02:46 PM
Yeah esoter1c, I saw where they're back up, not sure what to make of this whole thing.

But I like it here, and people are friendly. So, I'm going to stick around for a while.

HemiMG
Jul 18, 2012, 03:05 PM
You can thank my bad luck for the site being back up. Haha. I just spent all day creating a replacement forum at iPhoneDevBoard.com and iPhoneDevSDK came back up minutes after I finished. le sigh.
Oh well, it is worth the wasted $13 domain registration to see my old hangout on the internet back up, and looking spiffier than ever, I might add. :D

Kuda-
Jul 18, 2012, 03:14 PM
Oh well, it is worth the wasted $13 domain registration to see my old hangout on the internet back up

I really like your perspective on that. :D That's what I was considering too!

HemiMG
Jul 18, 2012, 03:21 PM
GoDaddy has been acting up all day, I'm not sure it was worth the hassle of dealing with that! haha. Oh well, now I have all the time in the world to finish the site. I don't think the users will be pouring in with the real deal back.
I'll have to spend more time posting on iPhoneDevSDK instead of just lurking now that I know how much I miss it when it is gone.

Reason077
Jul 18, 2012, 03:29 PM
iphonedevsdk.com (http://iphonedevsdk.com) is back. But their new design/theme is super ugly and makes my head hurt :(

Garish gradients everywhere and silly icons creating needless clutter. I don't know what they're thinking.

HemiMG
Jul 18, 2012, 03:40 PM
iphonedevsdk.com (http://iphonedevsdk.com) is back. But their new design/theme is super ugly and makes my head hurt :(

Garish gradients everywhere and silly icons creating needless clutter. I don't know what they're thinking.

The gradients don't bother me, but the icons are a bit loud. Maybe they'll change it if users start complaining. Or maybe they won't and all their users will run to my, now pointless, forum. Muhaha! (not holding my breath on that one. haha)

I'd also like it if they fixed the logo to match the new site color, right now it stands out too much. But I can deal with all of that annoyance just to be able to get my daily Business, Legal, and Appstore fix. ;)

Kuda-
Jul 18, 2012, 03:41 PM
their new design/theme is super ugly and makes my head hurt

Yeah, it's really ugly, but I think alot of it comes from default settings in Vanilla Forums. I'm sure with a little bit time they'll look a tiny bit better.

esoter1c
Jul 18, 2012, 03:43 PM
You can read the reasons they changed forums here Latest News (http://iphonedevsdk.com/forum/site-news-announcements/106155-announcing-the-new-iphonedevsdk-running-on-vanilla-forums.html#latest)

HemiMG
Jul 18, 2012, 03:51 PM
You can read the reasons they changed forums here Latest News (http://iphonedevsdk.com/forum/site-news-announcements/106155-announcing-the-new-iphonedevsdk-running-on-vanilla-forums.html#latest)

If it can cut down on the malware and other problems, then that is a great thing. I'm not sure what vanilla does that vbulletin doesn't, in that regard though.
There are some cool new features, like the Facebook-esque wall. I don't think many people will really take advantage of that though. I haven't even looked at my "wall" to see what it looks like yet.

ukneeq
Jul 18, 2012, 04:08 PM
Yea I noticed the site was back up, but it is still showing the malware warnings.

Greencardman
Jul 18, 2012, 04:09 PM
I'm still getting malware warnings for that site, but they might be two days old by now. It sure doesn't help to be browsing this on a PC, that's for sure :)

"
What is the current listing status for iphonedevsdk.com?
Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.
Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 13 time(s) over the past 90 days.
What happened when Google visited this site?
Of the 1012 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 38 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2012-07-16, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2012-07-10.Malicious software includes 31 trojan(s), 16 exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 2 new process(es) on the target machine.
Malicious software is hosted on 12 domain(s), including mysitesisinn.org/ (http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=mysitesisinn.org/), travismedz.in/ (http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=travismedz.in/), danyelaaavol.org/ (http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=danyelaaavol.org/).
1 domain(s) appear to be functioning as intermediaries for distributing malware to visitors of this site, including bloositeplys.org/ (http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=bloositeplys.org/).
This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS33070 (RMH) (http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=AS:33070)."

RLScott
Jul 19, 2012, 05:47 AM
I didn't see any maleware warnings for iphonedevsdk in google through me iPad today.

Reason077
Jul 19, 2012, 05:48 AM
I'm still getting malware warnings for that site, but they might be two days old by now. It sure doesn't help to be browsing this on a PC, that's for sure :)


Yes, the malware issue was probably the reason the old site got shut down.

The new one is hosted by vanillaforums.com, so it should be clean. Just have to wait for safebrowsing to catch up.