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ugahairydawgs
Jul 17, 2012, 09:19 PM
With the new iPhone a few months away and all of the hubbub out there about Jelly Bean, I decided to take the plunge and try out Android and the Galaxy Nexus. It got here today and I have been acclimating myself to it for the past little bit.

Extra screen size is nice, but it makes the phone kind of awkward feeling to hold. Being used to the iPhone and easy one handed use this is the thing that is probably causing the most problems. It almost becomes second nature to take your iPhone out of your pocket and in the same motion hit the home button and slide to unlock so that by the time your phone hits eye level its unlocked and ready to go. With the GN being as big as it is and the fact that the power button is on the upper right side it causing me some issues in getting the phone unlocked quickly. Anyone else make the switch and run across this? Did it become easier? Also with the lock button pretty much on line with the volume rocker I change the volume on the phone about as often as I successfully lock it when trying to use the phone one handed.

Say what you want about the iPhones tiny screen, but that tiny screen seems to make the ease of use factor go up exponentially.

Outside of that I'm not really seeing how this OS is exponentially better than iOS like many have been making it out to be. Are there parts of it that I wish were accessible in iOS (i'm looking at you notification center pulldown , access from the lock screen), but so far there is no night and day difference that I see. I'm still trying to figure out a way to get rid of all of these extra unused home screens I have.

Any suggestions on what to try with this thing to try and differentiate between it and my 4S?



nuckinfutz
Jul 17, 2012, 09:23 PM
Extra screen size is nice, but it makes the phone kind of awkward feeling to hold. Being used to the iPhone and easy one handed use this is the thing that is probably causing the most problems. It almost becomes second nature to take your iPhone out of your pocket and in the same motion hit the home button and slide to unlock so that by the time your phone hits eye level its unlocked and ready to go. With the GN being as big as it is and the fact that the power button is on the upper right side it causing me some issues in getting the phone unlocked quickly. Anyone else make the switch and run across this? Did it become easier? Also with the lock button pretty much on line with the volume rocker I change the volume on the phone about as often as I successfully lock it when trying to use the phone one handed.

Say what you want about the iPhones tiny screen, but that tiny screen seems to make the ease of use factor go up exponentially.

Outside of that I'm not really seeing how this OS is exponentially better than iOS like many have been making it out to be. Are there parts of it that I wish were accessible in iOS (i'm looking at you notification center pulldown , access from the lock screen), but so far there is no night and day difference that I see. I'm still trying to figure out a way to get rid of all of these extra unused home screens I have.

Any suggestions on what to try with this thing to try and differentiate between it and my 4S?

I really don't want a phone much larger than 4.3". If the next iPhone is 4" i'm totally cool with that for the reason you mention. iPhone users have grown accustomed to being able to do movements like you've mentioned with one hand without even thinking.

As for the notification center from the lock screen. I look at it like this.

Say you're Tony Soprano. Your wife is watching you like a hawk but you're smart and you're phone is always locked when it's not being used. If your notifications are available from the lock screen Carmella would be able to see who or what's going on without your approval and the Big Boss can't have that.

So I understand Apple's point here.

nfl46
Jul 17, 2012, 09:28 PM
Please move this to the Android section of the forums. :-/

Thanks.

batting1000
Jul 17, 2012, 09:30 PM
Yeah, this is just gonna turn into another debate. I can see it now...

Move it before it starts...

ugahairydawgs
Jul 17, 2012, 09:37 PM
Yeah, this is just gonna turn into another debate. I can see it now...

Move it before it starts...

Nothing wrong with a little debate, provided folks can be grown up about it.

I look at it this way, as a pretty wide net Apple user (in my house there is a MBA, Mac Mini, iPad, 2x iPhones, 2x ATV2, and a ton of content purchased through App Store/iBooks/iTunes Store) I think it is important to know why you stick with the platform you use for reasons other than just inertia. If there is something another company (in this instance Google) is doing that is worth looking at I don't think there is any harm in doing so and discussing it.

That's all this is. Sure some people have a hard time being grounded in stuff like this, taking up for their particular brand preference like you were talking about their mama, but hopefully we can do our best to ignore those guys.

Vizin
Jul 17, 2012, 09:39 PM
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cynics
Jul 17, 2012, 09:42 PM
You're not used to to handling the device and knowing everything its capable of in an entire portion of one day? I'd send it back! :D

nuckinfutz
Jul 17, 2012, 09:42 PM
Please move this to the Android section of the forums. :-/

Thanks.

You mean the trash can? LOL

The iGentleman
Jul 17, 2012, 10:39 PM
Samsung Nexus is obsolete technology

HD screen - check
NFC - check
Dual Core Processor - check
Newest Version of Android - check

If that's obsolete, then I'm sure you find the 4S to be quite antiquated then right?

batting1000
Jul 17, 2012, 10:42 PM
HD screen - check
NFC - check
Dual Core Processor - check
Newest Version of Android - check

If that's obsolete, then I'm sure you find the 4S to be quite antiquated then right?

iPhone 4S:

HD screen - check
NFC - no
Dual Core Processor - check
Newest Version of iOS - check

depths
Jul 17, 2012, 10:51 PM
IPhone 4s and Galaxy Nexus both released around the same time, same score on theverge, both flagship phones but Google's is obsolete because this is an Apple forum.

**** objectivity right?

The iGentleman
Jul 17, 2012, 10:52 PM
iPhone 4S:

HD screen - check
NFC - no
Dual Core Processor - check
Newest Version of iOS - check

...The 4S does not have an HD display buddy... 960x640 ≠ High Definition
For reference, 720p is 720x1280.

Anyway, to my point, I'm saying if he thinks the GNex is obsolete tech, then he must certainly think so about the 4S too (though he's wrong).

Stuntman06
Jul 17, 2012, 10:56 PM
After using a 3.7" screen for over a year and a half. Anything bigger than 4" feels huge to me. Even the 4.3" screens feel huge. I'm just used to the screen size of the phone I've used for such a long time. If I had to get a new phone with a larger screen, I'm sure I can get used to it after a while.

Please move this to the Android section of the forums. :-/

Thanks.

There's an Android section? I can't seem to find it.

xnickitynickx
Jul 17, 2012, 11:16 PM
There's an Android section? I can't seem to find it.

Exactly. :p

sentinelsx
Jul 17, 2012, 11:48 PM
Am using one now. I still have my iPhone 4 though as backup.

It is a good device. To be honest coming from the iPhone and trying many android phones including the one x, i cannot settle on anything but the nexus. It is the "iPhone of the android world" IMO in terms of pure software. Works great out of the box. Not rooted or no ROM loaded on it because frankly there is no need.

But would i recommend it to you? Well if you like android, sure go for it. I can't debate iOS vs. android because to me they do basic things the same way but follow different philosophy and it depends on what you like so try it out and decide. I don't use the nexus because the iPhone is bad, i just like stock android more and that is me. iPhone and iOS are great devices and OS for people who are interested in them. One great advantage is if you use a mac, the integration is very good. Perhaps the only good option if you want every thing from one company until MS gets the W8 project going later this year.

Oh, and i vote for a separate comparison section too for forums!

thadoggfather
Jul 17, 2012, 11:58 PM
I have the GNex as well (GSM Unlocked)

I've had every iPhone gen before then (yes, all 5) and modded them all since pretty much day 1. I can't live with stock iOS for long without getting bored and longing for extra customization that just makes my life easier.

When the price dropped to $349, and Google announced Jelly Bean at I/O, being fluid and all, and the developer preview leaking, I had to give it a whirl.

I kept my 4S by my side.

After a few days, of playing with my GNex, and loading Jelly Bean the day after getting my phone (after deliberating whether or not to even open the package since Google charges 15% restocking, and thinking that I wouldn't like android at all being an iPhone long time user)... I sold my 4S (after unlocking through AT&T, I made enough to cover the unlocked Nexus and almost all of the next iPhone's subsidized price haha). I will miss the camera on that, but the GNex camera isn't bad at all outdoors, but it in inadequate lighting and indoors it leaves something to be desired.

I like the phone quite a bit. Especially with my grippy tpu case, it makes its size more manageable (and swype keyboard as well, love this)

I then was looking around for a 4S, feeling that i was missing out again, because every one in my family uses an iPhone, and I have for years, but I realized that there's almost nothing that really brings me back to 4S. Sure iPhone does some things better, but I dunno. This is a fun change. They both have their pros and cons, as with anything. Just depends which pros you value more or which cons you can't live with. Yadda yadda Plus, a new iPhone will be out soon and I am eligible for an upgrade (got 4S through craigslist via 4+cash trade back in January, and nexus from Google direct)

I say give it a whirl if you're curious enough. Nothing wrong with trying a new platform, to appreciate the one you're on more, or to get acquainted with something else.

I love my iPad3 though. iOS feels more right on a tablet to me.

Also, One X and GSIII look great. Especially with both getting jelly bean ports and a decent amount of mods tossed their way due to popularity. But I didn't feel like touching my contract just yet (if at all) nor getting a second hand Android for fear that I wouldn't be able to easily resell it or knowing what to look for when getting it (i know iPhones -- liquid damage and serial numbers and 3rd party modifications physically). And I have an issue with capacitive buttons. Zephyr is perfect and on screen buttons on my GNex.

And GSIII is superior hardware, but Gnex curve feels better to me, and its black sheet appearance without "Samsung" or "HTC/at&t" above its screen. And because GNex is Google's baby, and due to the humongous mod community, I don't see this phone becoming a slow, dated beast any time soon despite not having the same bleeding edge according to android h/w specs as the previous two. it's certainly in the same league.

Calidude
Jul 18, 2012, 12:08 AM
I have one. Not as powerful as the GSIII, but it feels better in my hand and has overall better build quality.

I'll wait for the Nexus coming later this Fall, and probably buy that when it also drops to $400 in 2013.

The Nexus is the iPhone of the Android world. I'm gonna be using them exclusively now.

Meanee
Jul 18, 2012, 12:21 AM
As for the notification center from the lock screen. I look at it like this.

Say you're Tony Soprano. Your wife is watching you like a hawk but you're smart and you're phone is always locked when it's not being used. If your notifications are available from the lock screen Carmella would be able to see who or what's going on without your approval and the Big Boss can't have that.

So I understand Apple's point here.

Add a lock to your phone and you won't be able to pull notification curtain down if phone is locked.

daechi
Jul 18, 2012, 12:24 AM
Wow. People are getting ridiculously impatient and lazy.

blakjak220
Jul 18, 2012, 12:30 AM
With the new iPhone a few months away and all of the hubbub out there about Jelly Bean, I decided to take the plunge and try out Android and the Galaxy Nexus. It got here today and I have been acclimating myself to it for the past little bit.

Extra screen size is nice, but it makes the phone kind of awkward feeling to hold. Being used to the iPhone and easy one handed use this is the thing that is probably causing the most problems. It almost becomes second nature to take your iPhone out of your pocket and in the same motion hit the home button and slide to unlock so that by the time your phone hits eye level its unlocked and ready to go. With the GN being as big as it is and the fact that the power button is on the upper right side it causing me some issues in getting the phone unlocked quickly. Anyone else make the switch and run across this? Did it become easier? Also with the lock button pretty much on line with the volume rocker I change the volume on the phone about as often as I successfully lock it when trying to use the phone one handed.

Say what you want about the iPhones tiny screen, but that tiny screen seems to make the ease of use factor go up exponentially.

Outside of that I'm not really seeing how this OS is exponentially better than iOS like many have been making it out to be. Are there parts of it that I wish were accessible in iOS (i'm looking at you notification center pulldown , access from the lock screen), but so far there is no night and day difference that I see. I'm still trying to figure out a way to get rid of all of these extra unused home screens I have.

Any suggestions on what to try with this thing to try and differentiate between it and my 4S?

You're not gonna see the benefits of Android in one afternoon of playing with the phone....
The fact that you say you're still trying to figure out how to get rid of extra homescreens means that you really just haven't had time to figure things out and see what it can do. BTW, if you haven't figured out, just pinch the screen and when the screen preview comes up long-press on one and drag it to the trash can.. easy as pie. At least keep it for a couple weeks and see what you think then.

depths
Jul 18, 2012, 12:44 AM
BTW, if you haven't figured out, just pinch the screen and when the screen preview comes up long-press on one and drag it to the trash can.. easy as pie. At least keep it for a couple weeks and see what you think then.

That's a feature in custom launchers, not stock.

Seiga
Jul 18, 2012, 12:57 AM
iphone 4s and galaxy nexus both released around the same time, same score on theverge, both flagship phones but google's is obsolete because this is an apple forum.

**** objectivity right?

qft.

kdarling
Jul 18, 2012, 01:15 AM
With the GN being as big as it is and the fact that the power button is on the upper right side it causing me some issues in getting the phone unlocked quickly. Anyone else make the switch and run across this?

The first thing I install on an Android phone is an app called "No Lock" to get rid of the slide-to-unlock.

Instead, any key (power, volume) turns it on, ready to go. You'd think that'd cause a problem, but I've never had one. Try it.

w00t951
Jul 18, 2012, 03:36 AM
With the new iPhone a few months away and all of the hubbub out there about Jelly Bean, I decided to take the plunge and try out Android and the Galaxy Nexus. It got here today and I have been acclimating myself to it for the past little bit.

Extra screen size is nice, but it makes the phone kind of awkward feeling to hold. Being used to the iPhone and easy one handed use this is the thing that is probably causing the most problems. It almost becomes second nature to take your iPhone out of your pocket and in the same motion hit the home button and slide to unlock so that by the time your phone hits eye level its unlocked and ready to go. With the GN being as big as it is and the fact that the power button is on the upper right side it causing me some issues in getting the phone unlocked quickly. Anyone else make the switch and run across this? Did it become easier? Also with the lock button pretty much on line with the volume rocker I change the volume on the phone about as often as I successfully lock it when trying to use the phone one handed.

Say what you want about the iPhones tiny screen, but that tiny screen seems to make the ease of use factor go up exponentially.

Outside of that I'm not really seeing how this OS is exponentially better than iOS like many have been making it out to be. Are there parts of it that I wish were accessible in iOS (i'm looking at you notification center pulldown , access from the lock screen), but so far there is no night and day difference that I see. I'm still trying to figure out a way to get rid of all of these extra unused home screens I have.

Any suggestions on what to try with this thing to try and differentiate between it and my 4S?

Sorry about quoting this entire chunk of text, but MR Mobile is terrible at editing text. Anyway, ICS and + have a "none" option in the security lock section. The power button turns the screen on and you're ready to go.

depths
Jul 18, 2012, 03:56 AM
There's also PGM Nexus which allows you to wake the phone with a swipe or double tap on the screen.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ponury.pgm2free&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Dpgm+nexus

NovemberWhiskey
Jul 18, 2012, 04:11 AM
I'm on a Verizon LTE Nexus now running DroidVicious JB ROM.

You can download it here:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28486-rom-vicious-toro-jellybean-411-fully-functional-07112012-326pm/

It's about as flawless as it gets (for JB thus far), and battery life is excellent running Imoseyon's kernel.

To get rid of homescreens, you should run a third-party launcher. I like Novalauncher, and upgraded to the paid version for gestures. IMO, the ability to customize gestures (amongst other things) is what differentiates the Android experience for me.

It's more mac-like than anything. I set "two-finger swipe up" to launch my calculator; "two-down" for my camera; "one up for whatsapp"; "one down for Google Voice"

That's currently impossible on iOS to my knowledge, and I do think iOS would benefit from either that or more triggering functions since screen real estate is limited.

Also try out the navigation buttons in the browser. You may have to activate it in "settings/labs/quick gestures" or something to that effect. Those are really amazing and very handy.

Other than that, it's really the closer linking with Google products (Talk for instance has a native stand-alone app whereas iOS requires third party options) and the ability to customize with whatever you want.

iOS is nearly flawless out of the box, but boring in my personal opinion (just saying that because I've been there and done that, not to denigrate it at all).

The notification bar is better on Android imo (ever since ICS) with the ability to swipe away individual notifications. I hate iOS's tiny close button, and the fact that pressing it closes everything in that list.

Still, I may go back for the iphone 5 depending on what is new. After the disappointment with the SGSIII, I'm already 80% leaning towards the iphone5 based on the rumors.

ixodes
Jul 18, 2012, 04:29 AM
Any suggestions on what to try with this thing to try and differentiate between it and my 4S?
If you follow the suggestion I'm about to offer, I assure you that the satisfaction you experience with your new Android will be outstanding.

I just received my new GSM Nexus from Google Play. It's the 7th new Android phone I've owned over the last four years. Currently I have two lines, one for the Nexus & one for my very nice iPhone 4S.

The key to obtaining the best, most fun experience with Android is to remember it's no different than switching from a Windows computer to a Mac. It's an absolute must to apply patience & a positive open minded attitude as you learn this _different_OS.

It's only human nature to jump to conclusions or directly compare it to an iPhone before giving yourself time to learn how to use all the great features. If you judge it before you've spent at least a month with it, you're only cheating yourself.

You'll notice I've not claimed that one is better than the other. That's for each individual user to decide, but if that decision is based on first impressions, everyone loses.

Speaking only for myself, the reason I prefer Android at the present is because I benefit greatly from the 4.65" display on the Nexus. In addition, I like the open & easily modified Android OS, it allows me to tailor the phone to my exact needs & preferences. Yet that said & with all due modesty, I have years of experience with both iOS & Android.

The new Nexus is so well done, and Android 4.0 and 4.1 are such well sorted out OS's that today's Android experience is simply stellar. Yet one will never get to enjoy it's many advantages if they don't take the time to learn it.

So that's my take on it. Just like I tell my friends whom I've convinced to give OS X a try... Remember Macs are different, learn it and you'll truly be impressed. The same thing Applies to Android.

Cheers... :)

ixodes
Jul 18, 2012, 04:40 AM
Wow. People are getting ridiculously impatient and lazy.
Not really, we're just the type that knows how to think for themselves & open minded enough to realize the world does not revolve around Apple :)

woodekm
Jul 18, 2012, 04:48 AM
I can get used to anything (and screen real estate is a no brainer), and I'll bet if you get used to the larger size, when you THEN hold the iPhone you'll feel how small and awkward IT is.

decafjava
Jul 18, 2012, 05:05 AM
There's an Android section? I can't seem to find it.

Exactly. :p

Indeed thought something was in the works on that front?? :confused:

ixodes
Jul 18, 2012, 05:10 AM
It's MacAnDroid Rumors.

The finest site on the web :D

xnickitynickx
Jul 18, 2012, 07:51 AM
Indeed thought something was in the works on that front?? :confused:

I had hoped so, but apparently the iPhone section is good for now

nefan65
Jul 18, 2012, 08:02 AM
There's an Android section? I can't seem to find it.

Sure...it's here: http://www.androidcentral.com/

jayenh
Jul 18, 2012, 08:06 AM
I switched to the Nexus, still not sure if it is a temporary switch, depends what the next iPhone brings, but at the moment i'm not really missing anything specific about iOS.

I should note a few things though. First of all, I don't suffer from OCD-like symptoms like some people on here... sure, I like to set my radio volume to an even number (even better if it rounds off to the nearest 5 without being too loud or quiet) but when it comes to my phone I don't baby it, I dont spend the last 15 minutes of my day checking for a new scratch to get annoyed about, I dont put a case on it, and I can handle flaws providing usability doesn't suffer. I'm also not a mobile gamer. I have a PC and consoles for that. I have never needed to "game on the go". I drive to work, when I'm at work I work, and when I'm not at work I'm either at home or out with people, so I would never break my phone out and be unsociable and start gaming on it.

So, with that in mind, the Galaxy Nexus...

At first I was unsure about the size. I tried visiting a bunch of stores to get my hands on one before I pulled the trigger but no where had it in stock. It's all about the S3 and One X in stores now. I ordered one anyway. My iPhone 4 home button had died I wanted to try out android again after giving the S2 a brief go. I couldn't see past the low res screen on that device. I also wanted to have a raw Google device. No custom launcher, no waiting for updates, just a bog standard Google phone.

First thing I noticed upon arrival is that the size wasn't too much of an issue at all. Weight is slightly less than the iPhone and it's well balanced, felt great in my hand. Build quality is great (even though people like to complain about "plastic phones" since Apple doesn't use a plastic back anymore). No bad edges, something that always bothered me about the iPhone 4, and so few physical buttons. It's so clean and stylish to look at, but that's just personal taste I guess. The glass also looks amazing, the way the edges are smoothed round in to the bezel, beautiful. It gives the front a sort of pebble look, similar to the old HP WebOS phones (wow... I cant even remember their names off the top of my head now).

Display. First of all, to the naked eye, it is as sharp as the iPhone, no doubt about it. You aren't going to switch and think "damn this dpi is low", but it has it's pro's and cons. The pro is that colours are just much nicer. The iPhone feels so washed out in comparison. It's much more vivid and matches up more with any decent quality monitor. The con is the pentile tech; at low brightness settings you are going to notice "grains". That's the only way I can describe it. It just looks slightly grainy. The only thing that makes this ok is that it's not all that noticeable in many situations. You probably wont notice it on your home screen unless you have a very plain background, ie single light colour, no objects, and most other uses on your phone probably wont show it either, websites, and especial photos and videos are not going to show it. Forums and some apps are when it is most noticeable for me, but personally, I don't really care all that much, others do. You could counter this by upping the brightness, but this will hurt battery life and probably your eyes in low light situations. I rely purely on auto brightness. In a well lit room it is much less noticeable when the brightness is higher to compensate for the lighting.

Speaking of battery life, another con. This phone just doesn't last as long as an iPhone on a single charge without messing around, and i'm not really in to that any more. I used to jail break, I went as far as rooting this phone to get Jelly Bean early, but other than that I dont really want to be messing about. I downloaded an app called juicedefender, it helps with battery life but it's still not quite as great as the iPhone. I guess this is just a problem with having a large display. So far it has not failed me throughout a day, but I am closer to zero than I was on the iPhone. This, again, is going depend on you as a user and what you do with the phone, and how much you do. I'm probably not as heavy as most people. I check a few websites, use a few news reader apps, email, facebook, twitter, instagram, a low amount of calls and some texting.

Apps. a lot is mentioned on here and other sites about apps. I'm not sure everyone has the full picture before commenting. Personally I find there isn't a single app that I used regularly that isn't available on the Play Store, or has a free yet equally functional alternative available. People like to talk about the low quality of android apps but I have not found this to be the case. As I mentioned above, I am not a mobile gamer. It is entirely possible that a game you like won't be available on the Play Store, I know iOS gets "exclusives" but this isn't something I care about. Though I will say that some games that have a cost on the App Store are free on the Play Store. I noticed all the Angry Birds and a few Gameloft titles were free. Possibly add supported? I can't comment, something to check if thats what you're in to.

Widgets. Not massively important to me, but still kind of useful to have. I have a weather/clock widget on my home page, great for the obvious, as well as quick access to alarms. I have a calendar widget on another screen for a quick swipe and reference of any upcoming events and reminders. Swipe the other way from my home screen and I have a small data counter so I can keep an eye on my allowance while I'm still in that playing-around phase with a new phone.

OS/UI. Personally I really like it. I like that this OS has an "app draw". No need to hide stuff away in a folder or your last home screen screen and pretend it isn't there, just remove it from your home screens completely and forget about it. there are apps that I even access solely through this because i don't use them very often. Another great feature of Jelly Bean is Google Now. What an amazing feature they have added. I use this every morning before my commute, and again before I leave work, to get everything I need to know on a single screen... weather, traffic updates, and reminders. It's a very useful tool and I'm hardly using any of the "cards" yet. As far as smoothness goes, it's smooth. No problems with stuttering or lag. It's another thing people make a big deal about but personally I never noticed an issue with this even on the S2. It seems to me that the hardware was already doing enough to battle it, even before Jelly Bean came a long and really finished it off. Flicking between homepages and scrolling through apps feels no different to iOS.

Buttons. As I mentioned, few physical buttons. Power and volume on the sides, that's it. Positioning of the power button is perfect for left or right handed use, within reach of my thumb or index finger depending on which hand it is held in. I thought I would find the software keys difficult to get used to and would maybe catch them by accident while typing but this hasn't been the case, and they are very responsive like the rest of the OS. The dedicated back button is amazing, by the way. Here's an example, you receive an email with a webpage link. Click the link and it will bring up your browser and open that link in a new tab, you can then go off browsing more pages from that page it you wanted, but click back (either once, or as many times as needed if you have gone off clicking other links) and it will close that tab, quit the browser, and take you straight back to the email. Not so useful if you have clicked through a bunch of links, you're probably better clicking the dedicated multitasking soft key in that situation, but if you haven't gone off through many pages it is a great way of closing that tab and returning to your email. This applies to many other apps. You might be in a news app that links to a youtube video which brings up the youtube app. Again, click back when you are done and it will kill youtube and take you back to the app that linked you. This is one amazing and smooth feature after putting up with that clunky iPhone home button for closing apps or multitasking.

Camera. This is a bit like the screen for me in that it's hard to decide if it is better of worse. Personally I think the overall quality is slightly lower than the iPhone 4 camera. At first I was disappointed by this, I mean, this phone is a year younger than the iPhone 4. After using it more I have found it has balanced itself out though. It has a great focus, even when up close to something. I always found the iPhone struggled with this. It also has a better focus for getting a sense of depth so although the quality might be a little less, it can produce some nicer photos, if you get me.

All in all I'm enjoying the phone. The size difference was easy to get used to, the OS is nice, smooth, and refreshing to use. I've had it for a few weeks now and never felt that itch to put my sim back in my iPhone. I think I still stand by what I've said to people in the past, and that is that my ideal phone would be a combination of an Android device and an iPhone (software and hardware), but individually I'd be hard pressed to take one over the other, so I guess that's a pretty good position to be in.

Previous smartphones have been the iPhone 3G, 3GS and iPhone 4. Take this review however you want, but the OP asked if anyone has tried one... I have (and still am), these are my views and opinion of the phone.

If you have any questions about it feel free to ask, but I'm not here to take part in the Android vs iPhone epenis comparisons.

TroyBoy30
Jul 18, 2012, 08:10 AM
i imported mine the day it came out. pretty sure im going back to IOS

El3ctronics
Jul 18, 2012, 08:36 AM
i imported mine the day it came out. pretty sure im going back to IOS

Are you using Jelly Bean and has that made any difference to you from you initial impressions of the device?

ugahairydawgs
Jul 18, 2012, 09:26 AM
Apps. a lot is mentioned on here and other sites about apps. I'm not sure everyone has the full picture before commenting. Personally I find there isn't a single app that I used regularly that isn't available on the Play Store, or has a free yet equally functional alternative available. People like to talk about the low quality of android apps but I have not found this to be the case. As I mentioned above, I am not a mobile gamer. It is entirely possible that a game you like won't be available on the Play Store, I know iOS gets "exclusives" but this isn't something I care about. Though I will say that some games that have a cost on the App Store are free on the Play Store. I noticed all the Angry Birds and a few Gameloft titles were free. Possibly add supported? I can't comment, something to check if thats what you're in to.


The only app availability issue I have run into so far is iBank. There is no version of it for Android and according to IGG Software there are no plans for a version of it in the future (makes sense with the name, I suppose). Wouldn't be a huge deal, but there doesn't seem to be an Android alternative that allows for manual entry of transactions and then syncs back to a Mac.

Everything else seems to either have an Android version or an Android equivalent except for that....which, for me, is a biggie.

Agree with you on the app drawer. Would be nice if Apple used something like that in iOS to keep all of those apps that I hardly ever access hidden away somewhere. Just getting rid of the 12 app max in folders would be sufficient.

I got back and forth on widgets. Sometimes it seems useful to have info at a glance on the homepage, but a lot of the time those things tend to clutter up the screen. Not really sure where I will ultimately fall on them yet.

batting1000
Jul 18, 2012, 09:36 AM
Agree with you on the app drawer. Would be nice if Apple used something like that in iOS to keep all of those apps that I hardly ever access hidden away somewhere. Just getting rid of the 12 app max in folders would be sufficient.

No, because then Android users would complain how Apple stole the idea of an app drawer.

Calidude
Jul 18, 2012, 10:27 AM
No, because then Android users would complain how Apple stole the idea of an app drawer.
They might as well. They already stole the notification shade.

batting1000
Jul 18, 2012, 10:31 AM
They might as well. They already stole the notification shade.

There's only so many ways you can do it...

Calidude
Jul 18, 2012, 10:35 AM
There's only so many ways you can do it...
Then Apple should have done it back in iOS3.

onthecouchagain
Jul 18, 2012, 10:38 AM
There's only so many ways you can do it...

Right. Apple's just adopting industry standards. How understanding.

Would you use this same explanation for system wide search on Android, which Samsung/Google is being sued for copying?

ugahairydawgs
Jul 18, 2012, 10:49 AM
This really doesn't need to devolve into another Android vs iOS pissing match.

batting1000
Jul 18, 2012, 11:10 AM
Right. Apple's just adopting industry standards. How understanding.

Would you use this same explanation for system wide search on Android, which Samsung/Google is being sued for copying?

Well it is patented...

onthecouchagain
Jul 18, 2012, 11:20 AM
Well it is patented...

Doesn't mean Apple didn't steal notifications from Android (whose patent on that was filed in 2009 and is pending approval).

The point is, litigation or not, when Apple steals, "there's only so many ways to do it" but if others steal, "they're copycats."

I'm not necessarily saying you say that all the time (maybe you do, I don't actually know), but it's frequently heard around here. It's just funny how understanding you become when rising to the defense of Apple.

Mac.World
Jul 18, 2012, 11:29 AM
Well it is patented...

It was patented in the early 90's for PC's. Don't know how Apple got it updated to include ALL mobile devices now? Kind of a crappy move, since I would consider it FRAND, since it is on just about every computer, tablet and phone in the world.

I'm really hoping the patent laws get changed soon. So tired of this mickey mouse crap. And I'm not just referring to Apple. HTC, Samsung, LG, HP, Motorola and soon we'll even see Amazon becoming a sue-tard.

thadoggfather
Jul 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
OP's question is "anyone try out a Nexus" not "anyone try to debate iOS and Android with people they've never met before"

sheesh.

Everyone needs to be more like Woz, be open to both platforms. Or don't be open but sleep well at night knowing it doesn't matter what you or I think individually.

Or prefer one, detest the other, but be indifferent about other peoples' uses.

:/

blackhand1001
Jul 18, 2012, 07:15 PM
The first thing I install on an Android phone is an app called "No Lock" to get rid of the slide-to-unlock.

Instead, any key (power, volume) turns it on, ready to go. You'd think that'd cause a problem, but I've never had one. Try it.

I dont even think you need an app. You can select no lock screen as an option in the security settings menu.

TroyBoy30
Jul 19, 2012, 09:02 AM
Are you using Jelly Bean and has that made any difference to you from you initial impressions of the device?

yes i have updated to JB. I don't see where jelly bean really changed anything. there are some tweaks but the os is still inconsistent. even the menu dots move to different locations depending on where you are. it still has a slight lag in certain areas. most widgets are simply glorified shortcuts that simply take you into the app. isnt that the same as opening the app? lol some things still force close, some things still don't work. some apps will now not run on JB. sometimes things just don't work and screen input is not registered. it's just not as nice of an OS as iOS to me. There are some things that are nice, like being able to add attachments to emails from within the emails, but the majority of things that droid user rave about are the things I could care less about. i dont care if i can mod it, i'm completely stock. why would i want to go through all that trouble to flash a rom that breaks my wireless or something. I don't mod. i take my phone out of the box, set it up 1 time and use it. I could care less about having a file viewer. battery life, which sucks on droids, os and working with my other products is whats important. I also hate the fact that a droid gets left behind with updates and loses value so quickly. at least with the iphone i have the best iphone for at least a year!

The iGentleman
Jul 20, 2012, 02:17 AM
yes i have updated to JB. I don't see where jelly bean really changed anything. there are some tweaks but the os is still inconsistent. even the menu dots move to different locations depending on where you are. it still has a slight lag in certain areas. most widgets are simply glorified shortcuts that simply take you into the app. isnt that the same as opening the app? lol some things still force close, some things still don't work. some apps will now not run on JB. sometimes things just don't work and screen input is not registered. it's just not as nice of an OS as iOS to me. There are some things that are nice, like being able to add attachments to emails from within the emails, but the majority of things that droid user rave about are the things I could care less about. i dont care if i can mod it, i'm completely stock. why would i want to go through all that trouble to flash a rom that breaks my wireless or something. I don't mod. i take my phone out of the box, set it up 1 time and use it. I could care less about having a file viewer. battery life, which sucks on droids, os and working with my other products is whats important. I also hate the fact that a droid gets left behind with updates and loses value so quickly. at least with the iphone i have the best iphone for at least a year!

You do realize in iOS, the back button is in different places in different apps right? That's no different than the menu button being in different places on Android.

TroyBoy30
Jul 20, 2012, 07:34 AM
You do realize in iOS, the back button is in different places in different apps right? That's no different than the menu button being in different places on Android.

in apps maybe but not the core OS

The iGentleman
Jul 20, 2012, 07:55 AM
in apps maybe but not the core OS

It doesn't matter which apps it happens in...the point is it happens. That's the bottom line. No need to attempt to qualify it. The button moves depending on the app you're in, simple as that.

onthecouchagain
Jul 20, 2012, 07:58 AM
It doesn't matter which apps it happens in...the point is it happens. That's the bottom line. No need to attempt to qualify it. The button moves depending on the app you're in, simple as that.

Yeah I never understood what the big fuss was over the menu button moving. Different developers and different apps. What can you do about that? At least it offers a menu button.

Like I said before many of the complaints of android are growing slimmer and desperate.

The iGentleman
Jul 20, 2012, 08:05 AM
Yeah I never understood what the big fuss was over the menu button moving. Different developers and different apps. What can you do about that? At least it offers a menu button.

Like I said before many of the complaints of android are growing slimmer and desperate.

Yeah, especially people like Troyboy who find fault with it, then in the same breath, excuse it in iOS.

Lindenhurst
Jul 20, 2012, 08:10 AM
Nothing wrong with a little debate, provided folks can be grown up about it.

I look at it this way, as a pretty wide net Apple user (in my house there is a MBA, Mac Mini, iPad, 2x iPhones, 2x ATV2, and a ton of content purchased through App Store/iBooks/iTunes Store) I think it is important to know why you stick with the platform you use for reasons other than just inertia. If there is something another company (in this instance Google) is doing that is worth looking at I don't think there is any harm in doing so and discussing it.

That's all this is. Sure some people have a hard time being grounded in stuff like this, taking up for their particular brand preference like you were talking about their mama, but hopefully we can do our best to ignore those guys.

The problem is that some folks around here aren't grown up yet.

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After using a 3.7" screen for over a year and a half. Anything bigger than 4" feels huge to me. Even the 4.3" screens feel huge. I'm just used to the screen size of the phone I've used for such a long time. If I had to get a new phone with a larger screen, I'm sure I can get used to it after a while.



There's an Android section? I can't seem to find it.

www.macrumors.com :)

jayenh
Jul 20, 2012, 08:45 AM
Yeah, especially people like Troyboy who find fault with it, then in the same breath, excuse it in iOS.

A few people are doing this. I noticed another common complaint being app compatibility with JB. This is something that happens with any OS update. Things are going to be broken and the developer will need to fix it. Hell, these very forums put together compatibility lists in a dedicated thread whenever a new version of iOS comes out. Why is this ok, yet Android is held to some higher standard were OS updates are not allowed to break apps?

b166er
Jul 20, 2012, 08:54 AM
I am going to wait and see what Apple unveils this fall but I have been considering trying a nexus myself. I'd wait until the fall either way, as a new Nexus will drop probably within weeks of the new iPhone. I'm not going to slag one OS or the other- but I think I actually just want to learn more about Android and step out of the iOS ecosystem for a bit. I'd probably be back but I'd really like to learn more about Android first hand. I was also considering a Nexus 7 so I wouldn't be tied to any contracts while I play around with a new OS.

BigHonkingDeal
Jul 20, 2012, 09:15 AM
Thank You!

That is quite handy.....

The first thing I install on an Android phone is an app called "No Lock" to get rid of the slide-to-unlock.

Instead, any key (power, volume) turns it on, ready to go. You'd think that'd cause a problem, but I've never had one. Try it.

TroyBoy30
Jul 20, 2012, 10:46 AM
It doesn't matter which apps it happens in...the point is it happens. That's the bottom line. No need to attempt to qualify it. The button moves depending on the app you're in, simple as that.

youre totally misunderstanding what im saying. im not talking about apps, im talking about the OS. ios does not have a menu button that shows up in the os. you have to go into settings. in android the menu button follows you around. its never in the same place twice. apps are different. the designer of the app can put stuff where ever they want. that makes sense. building your core os with no consistency does not.

jayenh
Jul 20, 2012, 10:49 AM
youre totally misunderstanding what im saying. im not talking about apps, im talking about the OS. ios does not have a menu button that shows up in the os. you have to go into settings. in android the menu button follows you around. its never in the same place twice. apps are different. the designer of the app can put stuff where ever they want. that makes sense. building your core os with no consistency does not.

Some examples might help with this discussion.

sentinelsx
Jul 20, 2012, 11:40 AM
Ok just a comparison update. I own both an iPhone 4 running 5.0.1 jailbroken (for ncsettings, activator, pwntunes and ifile, no customization) and a galaxy nexus stock 4.1.1 jellybean.

I was going to sell the iPhone 4 even though i considered keeping it as a backup, but now i am not going to sell it and will keep it because i encountered a few hiccups which i also saw on my captivate and SGS2 previously.

First, JB is insanely fast compared to GB or ICS, but there is still lag in place you would least expect. The keyboard is laggy at times, even with swiftkey it is quite apparent and i am not testing a gazillion keyboards because the stock one has issues. Should be fixed but will take time unfortunately from google.

Similarly auto rotation takes 1-2 seconds extra compared to my iPhone 4. Chrome, dolphin and opera tend to freeze at times (happened twice this morning while reading verge) and it is annoying. While safari on my iPhone crashed a few times during my many months usage, it never froze as the browsers tend to "stick" to their place for good.

Lack of holo apps is still very apparent despite ICS being released for a good 8 months now. You are using an aesthetically pleasing and user friendly UI and open an app and bam, disjointed mess. Now the iPhone has its fair share of ugly apps too mind you, but 99% of the time i can find an alternative which adopts a very clean and decent feel while not piling all the features on the front page to make it frustrating.

This is hardware but camera is comparable to my iPhone 4. I was skeptical before buying but people whine way too much about it. It is fine for a 5 mp old sensor. Screen is quite good. I barely see any difference between iPhone's retina and the nexus 720p screen. Text is sharp and photos look clear and good.

Build quality wise it is so so. It is not as bad as the galaxy S2 surprisingly though. The feel in hand is pretty good but not as premium feeling as the "shatter prone glass" in iPhone. I have dropped my iPhone 4 times in the lat 2 months and only have had a scratch and still don't want a case on it, same with the nexus, so while many will quickly jump to "glass breaks hurr", i think i prefer the glass feel of the iPhone more than the plastic samsung feel. HTC One X is also plastic and i had one, but the build quality was miles ahead of the galaxy nexus IMO.


IN short, will i keep it? Probably yeah. I'll keep both actually because there is a chance i might sell it after all. Android is great, but the iOS and iPhone combination is still very formidable and there is a reason they are slowly increasing market share and holding their own against the onlaught of other OEMs. It is mainly the iOS quirks and iron fist behavior that is the driving force for me to android after being a symbian user for years. While android delivers, it has its own quirks which i come to hate as well.

With its rumored deep integration with windows, all the new hardware support and software issues ironed out like mass storage, SD support, iOS style multi-tasking and back grounding for all apps, good cloud features, and a consistent app UI through out, i think i am leaning towards the next lumia running WP8 than a new galaxy with JB. I just wish they weren't taking their time till November. Such a long wait.

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youre totally misunderstanding what im saying. im not talking about apps, im talking about the OS. ios does not have a menu button that shows up in the os. you have to go into settings. in android the menu button follows you around. its never in the same place twice. apps are different. the designer of the app can put stuff where ever they want. that makes sense. building your core os with no consistency does not.

iOS does have menu button. Ever looking at a picture in iOS photos app and see that arrow coming out of a bin icon? It is present in safari and youtube too. And apps like camera etc have an "options" button on the main UI which is akin to settings/menu.

TimeLord517
Jul 20, 2012, 11:57 AM
I bought a brand new Galaxy Nexus (GSM model) from Google. I used it for a day, and then went right back to the iPhone. Apple just has it figured out / makes everything integrate nicely.
1. Unified Inbox. I have my Gmail account and my work Exchange account. I didn't like going between the "email" and the "Gmail" app to get to the various accounts. I know I could have downloaded an app to combine them - but I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS... Also, if I delete my work account off the iPhone (that requires a PIN to unlock), I can remove that without doing anything else. On Android, I have to wipe the entire phone even after removing the e-mail account in order to get rid of the security lock setting
2. Visual voice mail. I don't get many VMs, but it's nice to be able to pick and choose / see who left what. AT&T (and T-Mobile) don't allow the use of their "official" VVM apps on the GNexus. I know I could have downloaded an app (or use Google Voice) - but, again, I don't feel I should have to use an add-on to supplement the OS...
3. Music. I couldn't get use to the Google Music app on the GNexus. It's no where near as streamlined as Apple's. Also, I tried uploading my music to Google - but the desktop app would always crash before uploading all my music.

I will say the GNexus screen (in terms of looks) was AMAZING. Speaking of the screen, the size of the whole phone was a little bit too much for me (not unbearable, but had to stretch the thumbs on occasion). It's almost in the realm of "two hands all the time." Another thing I LIKED about the GNexus was the speed. With Jellybean on there, all the menus were smooth and I never encountered lag. In the end though, I just couldn't see myself "settling" and staying with the GNexus...

jkim3691
Jul 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
I confess I was one of those "Look, Android is catching up! iOS6 is boring. Taller iPhone? Wack." people. So I bought the Nexus from Google thinking for $350 what could I lose. I liked the soft keys, didn't care that the camera was worse than my 4s (I don't take pictures often), and it was key for me that I have a Google flagship phone.

When I got the phone I noticed a few things with the Nexus that were bothering me. I couldn't get MMS from one of my friends. Just one of them. Frustrating after playing with the APN, still nothing. The wireless antenna was pretty bad, connecting and disconnecting with my router when my iPhone never has had that problem. The screen doesn't light up when I get a text, just the notification LED blinks (I thought this was really illogical and made no sense to me). The screen didn't look very good in the daylight and the auto-brightness never kicked in or else I had to hold my phone up to the light. Customizing and troubleshooting was difficult because of the amount of phones that run Android and different scenarios out there. The Play Store would lose connection and I would have to start it back up, auto-correct was pretty bad (Yeah, you can download different keyboards I get it). E-mail was also very sloppy and unattractive. The plastic build itself was a turnoff but not a dealbreaker. Also, the battery took forever to charge. iPhone users are accustomed to the battery charging very quickly. I will say I enjoyed the extra screen estate for the little time that I had it and watching videos on it is sweet. Google Now was also impressive on how fast it got me the results I wanted and didn't mistake much of my words like Siri does. I am also going to miss a native Gtalk app. But I decided to return it. After I went back to my 4s, it was like falling in love again. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

On another note though, I played with my friend's Nexus 7 and have to say it's absolutely wonderful. I have no reason to buy a tablet, but just to be lazy and never use my computer for leisure, I am tempted to buy one.

The iGentleman
Jul 21, 2012, 11:10 AM
youre totally misunderstanding what im saying. im not talking about apps, im talking about the OS. ios does not have a menu button that shows up in the os. you have to go into settings. in android the menu button follows you around. its never in the same place twice. apps are different. the designer of the app can put stuff where ever they want. that makes sense. building your core os with no consistency does not.

It doesn't matter how it's there. You can find any way you want to attempt to justify it in iOS, but the fact remains, it's there. The apps it is in doesn't matter. The bottom line is the back button is in different places in different apps. Period point blank. You can't vilify one platform for having a menu button in different places, and excuse another platform for having the back button in different places. It doesn't matter about the app, it's in a different place.

freudling
Jul 21, 2012, 01:01 PM
I have the Nexus Sexus 7. Tweeners are for geeks to play with nothing more in my opinion. Doesn't have a reason to live because smartphones do everything better.

Here are photo comparisons between what a set of Websites look like on the Sexus compared to my iPhone 4S. They look BETTER on the iPhone 4S without any pinching and zooming: the tweener just adds weight and bulk. It's a deadend category Jobs is right.

http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv116/freudling/Suck%20It/

MacNowhere
Jul 21, 2012, 02:48 PM
I have the Nexus Sexus 7. Tweeners are for geeks to play with nothing more in my opinion. Doesn't have a reason to live because smartphones do everything better.

Here are photo comparisons between what a set of Websites look like on the Sexus compared to my iPhone 4S. They look BETTER on the iPhone 4S without any pinching and zooming: the tweener just adds weight and bulk. It's a deadend category Jobs is right.

http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv116/freudling/Suck%20It/

Again and again.. fraudling, the hero of anti-7" tablet crusade. Scientifically proving the Intenret forums wrong in their errant Nexus 7 ways. Leading the Nexus 7 masses out of the darkness. Please show us the truth, fraudling.. Our all knowing tablet hero.