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MacRumors
Jul 18, 2012, 04:16 PM
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After having an online presence in the United Kingdom for more than 15 years, Apple has finally acquired the Apple.co.uk (http://www.apple.co.uk) domain name. Dating back to at least 2003 (http://web.archive.org/web/20030801072933/http://www.apple.co.uk/illustration/index.aspx), Apple.co.uk has been owned by Apple Illustration, an illustration agency based in the UK. That company is now located at AppleAgency.co.uk (http://www.appleagency.co.uk/).

.co.uk is the primary commercial second-level domain under the United Kingdom's domain hierarchy with many major companies using it as a base of their UK online operations.

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Domain name:
apple.co.uk

Registrant:
Apple Inc.

Registrant type:
Non-UK Corporation

Registrant's address:
1 Infinite Loop
Cupertino
CA
95014
United States

Registrar:
Corporation Service Company (UK) Limited [Tag = CSC-CORP-DOMAINS]
URL: http://www.cscprotectsbrands.com

Relevant dates:
Registered on: before Aug-1996
Expiry date: 13-Jan-2014
Last updated: 06-Jul-2012The transfer in ownership happened early this month, with the website beginning to redirect to Apple in the past few days. We've contacted both Apple and Apple Illustration for comment on how the transfer came about, but have yet to hear back from either company.

Article Link: Apple Takes Control of 'Apple.co.uk' Domain Name (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/18/apple-takes-control-of-apple-co-uk-domain-name/)



anotherarunan
Jul 18, 2012, 04:19 PM
Thank goodness for that! Will save me all of half a second instead of typing apple.com/uk :D

Wonder how much Apple paid?

trainwrecka
Jul 18, 2012, 04:23 PM
Just in time for the "Samsung didn't copy" announcement. :D

PVisitors
Jul 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
Finally! Bet the other company got some pounds for it. I'd be surprised if they're still trading though; the site looked about 15 years out of date in terms of design.

Fazzy
Jul 18, 2012, 04:25 PM
about time! I always get redirected when typing this in

MultiMediaWill
Jul 18, 2012, 04:28 PM
Before you know it Apple will buy out every domain so the internet will always redirect you to apple.com

Sabenth
Jul 18, 2012, 04:30 PM
Now thats what you call taking your time.

ShiftyPig
Jul 18, 2012, 04:32 PM
I wonder if app£e.co.uk will redirect to it.

attila
Jul 18, 2012, 04:37 PM
Apple Agency don't need and real clients anymore after that successful sale! £££

uptherighttree
Jul 18, 2012, 04:38 PM
if they'd thought about it they should have had a pay-per-impression advertising system on their site.

would have made a few quid or all the times i kept forgetting and typing .co.uk :D

Rodimus Prime
Jul 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Thank goodness for that! Will save me all of half a second instead of typing apple.com/uk :D

Wonder how much Apple paid?

I am wondering that as well. Chances are the orginal owners kept turning Apple offers down and Apple knew they could not go after them for squatting on it as it was a legit domain name more than likely dating back a long time.

I would not be surprised if it was well into the 7 figure range.

The Tech Fish
Jul 18, 2012, 04:43 PM
Just in time for the "Samsung didn't copy" announcement. :D

You can bet that Apple will be sure to really emphasise that the Galaxy Tab is just too uncool to be mistaken with an iPad :p

GBrooks
Jul 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
Finally! I hated ending up on that weird site before when i didn't put the proper address in...

unlinked
Jul 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
Just in time for the "Samsung didn't copy" announcement. :D

Maybe the bought it just for the Samsung didn't copy announcement.
Hopefully the judge specified which website they should put it on. ;)

charlieegan3
Jul 18, 2012, 04:49 PM
i'm just happy us brits can finally start buying apple products.:D

pazz
Jul 18, 2012, 04:54 PM
The previous owner of this domain was listed at an address about 15mins drive from me. So if I see a new Ferrari in the area with an appropriate Apple themed number plate I'll be able to put a name to a face.

Be interesting to know the purchase price!

Asclepio
Jul 18, 2012, 05:01 PM
They want control the world

Ashwee
Jul 18, 2012, 05:07 PM
yay finally

trunten
Jul 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
Just chiming in.
Finally!

Imaginethe
Jul 18, 2012, 05:32 PM
Ah good, I can stop accidentally going to that odd site, or going to the US site by accident.

All Apple need to do is release the new iMac so I can test it ;-)

bbeagle
Jul 18, 2012, 05:39 PM
I am wondering that as well. Chances are the orginal owners kept turning Apple offers down and Apple knew they could not go after them for squatting on it as it was a legit domain name more than likely dating back a long time.

I would not be surprised if it was well into the 7 figure range.

I would think just the opposite. Apple is not known to cave - look at the Beatles albums on iTunes as leading evidence.

Apple probably offered something like substantial but not overwhelming like $250,000. It took 7 years for this guy's failed business to finally realize that he needed the money and Apple wasn't going any higher.

lmddawson
Jul 18, 2012, 05:40 PM
Finally! :D

deannnnn
Jul 18, 2012, 05:50 PM
Doesn't apple.com automatically redirect to the Apple site of the country you're accessing it from? Did I make that up?

lee14160
Jul 18, 2012, 06:00 PM
Must be nice having $98,000,000,000 in reserve.

ranReloaded
Jul 18, 2012, 06:11 PM
The previous owner of this domain was listed at an address about 15mins drive from me. So if I see a new Ferrari in the area with an appropriate Apple themed number plate I'll be able to put a name to a face.

Be interesting to know the purchase price!

Planning to mug him? :D

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Doesn't apple.com automatically redirect to the Apple site of the country you're accessing it from? Did I make that up?

Not sure about Apple, but Google does something similar (or based on OS language, can't remember). Almost as annoying as 'Did you mean...?'

PVisitors
Jul 18, 2012, 06:38 PM
The guy in this thread makes a good point. I wonder why the owner of Apple.co.uk never whored his site out with ads on it. It was just the same template design which hadn't been changed since the late 90s.

Imagine all the money he would have been sitting on now after Apple bought his domain name + x years of ad revenue. I bet that site had huge traffic counts for people mistakenly going on it. I did it all the time by mistake when I knew Apple didn't own it; so imagine all the more green customers who have done it in the past.

The guy missed a trick here.

east85
Jul 18, 2012, 06:54 PM
I wonder how much they paid to make this happen.

Black107
Jul 18, 2012, 06:59 PM
The guy in this thread makes a good point. I wonder why the owner of Apple.co.uk never whored his site out with ads on it. It was just the same template design which hadn't been changed since the late 90s.

Imagine all the money he would have been sitting on now after Apple bought his domain name + x years of ad revenue. I bet that site had huge traffic counts for people mistakenly going on it. I did it all the time by mistake when I knew Apple didn't own it; so imagine all the more green customers who have done it in the past.

The guy missed a trick here.

Doing this probably would have strengthened Apple's case that it was "Name squatting" even if it wasn't. They might have been able to get it for free if he did that.

LaWally
Jul 18, 2012, 07:06 PM
You can bet that Apple will be sure to really emphasise that the Galaxy Tab is just too uncool to be mistaken with an iPad :p
Apple will look foolish if they do that.

Apple sued Samsung because they claimed the Samsung tablet was a "slavish copy" of the iPad. Parroting the judge's comment that the Samsung is "not as cool" as the iPad (and therefore not a slavish copy) will call into question Apple's ability to know cool when they see it. After all, if a judge could see it was not as cool, why couldn't Apple?

petercooper
Jul 18, 2012, 07:08 PM
What bugs me is for years the UK Apple Store was at apple.com/ukstore then a few months ago it just started failing and now it brings up "request application was not found". Am now finally started to get used to store.apple.com/uk as the new way to go but was surprised they'd let an old easily redirectable URL drop like that.

babyj
Jul 18, 2012, 07:11 PM
Doing this probably would have strengthened Apple's case that it was "Name squatting" even if it wasn't. They might have been able to get it for free if he did that.

Back when there was a lot of domain squatting, more often than not when it went to court (or through the appeal process) the reason they lost was due to them doing stupid stuff. Like practically blackmailing businesses, filling with porn ads, redirects to competitors and so on.

This company used the apple.co.uk domain legitimately so there was nothing Apple could do about it. Except pay what was probably a very large sum of money to buy it. Strange it took so long though.

PVisitors
Jul 18, 2012, 07:23 PM
Doing this probably would have strengthened Apple's case that it was "Name squatting" even if it wasn't. They might have been able to get it for free if he did that.

I wasn't suggesting turning it into just adverts. It was (and I'd imagine still is) a legitimate business which had a claim to the Apple domain. The point I was trying to make is that the site had NO adverts at all. He could have got away with standard or flash advertisements *spits* and made money and Apple would have still had no case as it could have easily been argued to be general adverts, albeit adverts making a lot of money giving the traffic of having www.apple.co.uk.

bedifferent
Jul 18, 2012, 07:34 PM
Someone made some mad bank from this! :)

thekev
Jul 18, 2012, 07:58 PM
I am wondering that as well. Chances are the orginal owners kept turning Apple offers down and Apple knew they could not go after them for squatting on it as it was a legit domain name more than likely dating back a long time.

I would not be surprised if it was well into the 7 figure range.

They could have tried, but it would have resulted in bad PR.

The previous owner of this domain was listed at an address about 15mins drive from me. So if I see a new Ferrari in the area with an appropriate Apple themed number plate I'll be able to put a name to a face.

Be interesting to know the purchase price!

That would be really funny, but Ferraris attract a lot of negative attention as they're quite flashy.

I would think just the opposite. Apple is not known to cave - look at the Beatles albums on iTunes as leading evidence.

Apple probably offered something like substantial but not overwhelming like $250,000. It took 7 years for this guy's failed business to finally realize that he needed the money and Apple wasn't going any higher.

You have to remember that it doesn't have to be motivated solely by what they think they can get for a name. There are certain costs and time involved in a transition when it comes to updating everything related to this. In the case of the Beatles, Apple violated their initial agreement, but it obviously wasn't foreseeable that this would ever be an issue at the time the agreement was reached. If it just wasn't worth it, they could simply reject Apple's offers indefinitely.

koolmagicguy
Jul 18, 2012, 08:23 PM
i'm just happy us brits can finally start buying apple products.:D

You couldn't buy them before?

Puevlo
Jul 18, 2012, 08:49 PM
You couldn't buy them before?

No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

CodexMonkey
Jul 18, 2012, 09:18 PM
I’m actually one of the artists on the Apple Agency - they’re now www.appleagency.co.uk - I’ll see if I can find out what the guys were paid (there’s two of them!)

They’ve been discussing it with Apple for YEARS now.

alhedges
Jul 18, 2012, 09:25 PM
I wasn't suggesting turning it into just adverts. It was (and I'd imagine still is) a legitimate business which had a claim to the Apple domain. The point I was trying to make is that the site had NO adverts at all. He could have got away with standard or flash advertisements *spits* and made money and Apple would have still had no case as it could have easily been argued to be general adverts, albeit adverts making a lot of money giving the traffic of having www.apple.co.uk.
Yeah, but if you are a legitimate business it's going to look pretty unprofessional if you have a bunch of ads on your site. Enough so to drive away legitimate business.

CodexMonkey
Jul 18, 2012, 09:32 PM
It took 7 years for this guy's failed business to finally realize that he needed the money...

Like I say, I know the guys personally and have worked with them for many years (though not since I became an author full-time). Believe me, theirs is NOT a failed business and I don’t know why you think you have some insider knowledge that you clearly don’t. The reason they held back for so long is because they did not need the money. I had this discussion with them about three years ago. They are VERY good at what they do and make a ton of money doing it.

I really dislike it when people post comments like yours as though they’re stating fact. At least have the decency to put the words "I reckon..." at the front of your statement in the same way that I reckon you’re an idiot.

r0k
Jul 18, 2012, 09:34 PM
I went to it today when I read Apple was being forced to put up some sort of disclaimer about Samsung didn't really copy their design for the iPad. I was hoping to see the disclaimer there but alas it wasn't there.

I typed apple.co.uk and got redirected to www.apple.com/uk. It never occurred to me Apple didn't own apple.co.uk all along. :eek:

unlinked
Jul 18, 2012, 09:43 PM
I really dislike it when people post comments like yours as though they’re stating fact. At least have the decency to put the words "I reckon..." at the front of your statement in the same way that I reckon you’re an idiot.

99% of what people post on the internet is completely uninformed by fact.

unlinked
Jul 18, 2012, 09:58 PM
No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

You poor guys must have had a hell of a time before they made http:// optional in urls.

CodexMonkey
Jul 18, 2012, 10:01 PM
99% of what people post on the internet is completely uninformed by fact.

Including the "99%" you just made up off the top of your head, I’m guessing.

koobcamuk
Jul 18, 2012, 10:15 PM
Including the "99%" you just made up off the top of your head, I’m guessing.

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n582/draegon666/thats_the_joke.jpg

mac 2005
Jul 18, 2012, 11:11 PM
I've been a member of this site for 7 years, and I'm only tempted now to say this: How is this Page 1 "news"? A) It's not a "rumour" (UK spelling) and B) It's not newsworthy.

For an interesting discussion of who gains control of a .whatever address, check out nissan.com vs. nissanusa.com.

justperry
Jul 18, 2012, 11:47 PM
I’m actually one of the artists on the Apple Agency - they’re now www.appleagency.co.uk - I’ll see if I can find out what the guys were paid (there’s two of them!)

They’ve been discussing it with Apple for YEARS now.

I reckon...;) they won't tell you.

ade2bee
Jul 19, 2012, 12:33 AM
Where the negative comments 'box/selection' ... can't stand critisism in your nice site eh?... or are we not allowed to criticise in this newly developing nanny/police state

Vizin
Jul 19, 2012, 02:27 AM
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charlieegan3
Jul 19, 2012, 04:05 AM
You couldn't buy them before?

I'm guessing your american/not british/don't know about apple in the country outside your own. YES WE COULD BUY APPLE PRODUCTS BEFORE!

No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

:D:D:D true.

maplelegend
Jul 19, 2012, 04:08 AM
No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

OMG! so how did you type "http://"??? copy and paste?

unlinked
Jul 19, 2012, 04:09 AM
I'm glad they took away the downvote button. You can still criticize, you just can't be lazy about it by hitting a little arrow button. If you disagree with someone, why not say so?

Also, nanny state? Police state? I didn't realize MacRumors was a state. Do we get our own TLD now?

They took away down votes in order to reduce negativity so replying to everyone telling them they are wrong may not be the net win they were looking for. Plus there are a lot of you so it is a little time consuming to reply to each of you.

Queso
Jul 19, 2012, 04:13 AM
OMG! so how did you type "http://"??? copy and paste?
Plug in a USB American keyboard of course.

How can you not know this? :confused:

gnasher729
Jul 19, 2012, 04:13 AM
No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

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I am wondering that as well. Chances are the orginal owners kept turning Apple offers down and Apple knew they could not go after them for squatting on it as it was a legit domain name more than likely dating back a long time.

I would not be surprised if it was well into the 7 figure range.

It's an interesting negotiation problem.

A has something that B, and only B, wants.

The minimum price that A would be willing to sell for is a lot less than the maximum price that B would be willing to pay, so a deal can be done. There is also no time limit (unlike with the iPhone name; Cisco had to sell at some point or Apple would have had to pick a different name, and the iPhone name would have been worthless). But of course A wants to get as much as possible, and B wants to pay as little as possible.

rovex
Jul 19, 2012, 04:35 AM
What happens if the Union were to break up? May as well focus all the attention on .eng now.

Queso
Jul 19, 2012, 04:39 AM
What happens if the Union were to break up? May as well focus all the attention on .eng now.
There are three crowns represented in the UK, so unless BOTH Scotland and Northern Ireland leave it's pretty safe to continue using that name for the country.

stevenmackinnon
Jul 19, 2012, 04:40 AM
Why doesn't someone drop one of the guys a call on their mobiles to see how much they got? (their mobile numbers on on their website!? crazy!) :D

Queso
Jul 19, 2012, 04:48 AM
Why doesn't someone drop one of the guys a call on their mobiles to see how much they got? (their mobile numbers on on their website!? crazy!) :D
Because that would be a bit creepy? :p

stevenmackinnon
Jul 19, 2012, 04:52 AM
Because that would be a bit creepy? :p

True true! :cool:

koolmagicguy
Jul 19, 2012, 07:18 AM
No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

I appreciate the humor but I thought the original comment was serious. ;)

peterh988
Jul 19, 2012, 07:33 AM
Doesn't apple.com automatically redirect to the Apple site of the country you're accessing it from? Did I make that up?

No. And if you go to the /uk site, view the discussions in support section, then go to 'store' via the top bar, it defaults back to the US store.

webitorgal
Jul 19, 2012, 09:14 AM
I thought keyboards in the UK didn't have the # sign but had / - or at least the keyboards did when I studied abroad there back in 2001 (from what I recall, anyway).

Westyfield2
Jul 19, 2012, 11:11 AM
Wonder if they bought it or some poor bloke at the design agency forgot to renew.

Queso
Jul 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
I thought keyboards in the UK didn't have the # sign but had / - or at least the keyboards did when I studied abroad there back in 2001 (from what I recall, anyway).
That was before the Maastricht EU treaty. Now all keyboards in the UK have to have the German QWERTZ layout, so the punctuation has changed too.

Lennholm
Jul 19, 2012, 12:57 PM
Doesn't apple.com automatically redirect to the Apple site of the country you're accessing it from? Did I make that up?

I think so, but the problem here was that apple.co.uk would take you to a completely different website and I guess people in the UK are used to typing co.uk

Like I say, I know the guys personally and have worked with them for many years (though not since I became an author full-time). Believe me, theirs is NOT a failed business and I don’t know why you think you have some insider knowledge that you clearly don’t. The reason they held back for so long is because they did not need the money. I had this discussion with them about three years ago. They are VERY good at what they do and make a ton of money doing it.

I really dislike it when people post comments like yours as though they’re stating fact. At least have the decency to put the words "I reckon..." at the front of your statement in the same way that I reckon you’re an idiot.

Apple fanboys are always very quick to dismiss any adversary (minor, temporary, incorrectly assumed to be etc.) of Apple as being a failed bunch of clowns.

webitorgal
Jul 19, 2012, 04:52 PM
That was before the Maastricht EU treaty. Now all keyboards in the UK have to have the German QWERTZ layout, so the punctuation has changed too.

I see. But according to the Wikipedia images, it looks like / is above the 7.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_keyboard

MacSince1990
Jul 19, 2012, 11:27 PM
Before 1996? The internet was still in its infancy. The Power Mac 9600 hadn't even come out yet lol..

thekeyring
Jul 21, 2012, 02:05 AM
No, UK keyboards don't have a '/' key therefore they couldn't access www.apple.com/uk.

Are you serious? Of course we have forward slashes on our keyboards - they're underneath the ? key. How would we do ANY web browsing otherwise?