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2ndchancephones
Jul 21, 2012, 09:00 PM
I own an iPhone 4 and have owned every iPhone. My family has 4 iPads, 3 MacBook Pros and two iMacs. So, I am an Apple guy.

I was in Best Buy the other day and went by the cell phone area and picked up the new Galaxy S3 and wasn't impressed. It felt like a little toy that was cheaply built.



Nadasive
Jul 21, 2012, 09:03 PM
Yea its all plastic but the phone is amazing. I bought it today and fell in love with it right away.

the HD Screen is **********G AMAZING! Its the fastest phone i have ever used. Just hoping it doesn't slow down haha.


The only real down-side is battery life. i've had it on for 2 hours now and from full charge its at 60% with moderate text/calling/web (Maybe a few more cycles and it'll improve)

Mac.World
Jul 21, 2012, 11:41 PM
Yea its all plastic but the phone is amazing. I bought it today and fell in love with it right away.

the HD Screen is **********G AMAZING! Its the fastest phone i have ever used. Just hoping it doesn't slow down haha.


The only real down-side is battery life. i've had it on for 2 hours now and from full charge its at 60% with moderate text/calling/web (Maybe a few more cycles and it'll improve)

Actually, battery life is better than the 4S, but you need to realize that you have to control your settings. Apple does it for you.

Here are some things you can disable to save battery life. Note that I am not saying these have to be turned on or off or disabled, just that these particular things do eat the battery:

1. Widgets that constantly pull data i.e. weather widget pulling data every half hour. Live news tickers. Etc...
2. Live wallpapers. Some are more battery hungry than others. You need to read reviews to find out which are less battery hungry than others. I have and use this one and it doesn't drain the battery: Ice Galaxy
3. Leaving Screen brightness at 100%
4. leaving GPS and Mobile Data on when you are home on wi-fi. Pull down your notification center and you can one click this off at the top of the screen.
5. Check your battery status under settings and see if anything is constantly pushing to your phone. i.e. hotmail. For whatever reason hotmail tends to constantly push data to your phone.
6. Turn on battery saver mode

And if you want to speed your S3 up slightly go to Settings, Developer Options, then change Window and Transition animation scale from 1.0x to 0.5x.

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I own an iPhone 4 and have owned every iPhone. My family has 4 iPads, 3 MacBook Pros and two iMacs. So, I am an Apple guy.

I was in Best Buy the other day and went by the cell phone area and picked up the new Galaxy S3 and wasn't impressed. It felt like a little toy that was cheaply built.

Felt like a 'little' toy? The iphone can fit within the S3's screen. I wouldn't call the S3 little. I'm certainly glad you came in this part of the forum just to say this though. I own an S3, but am also an Apple guy. I have 2 ATV 2's and 1 ATV 3, 3 iPad 2's, a 27" iMac, a 13" MBP (converted to hold 2 internal SSD's) and an iPhone 4. That said, I do not think the S3 is cheaply built.

tremlock
Jul 24, 2012, 08:28 PM
Of course the demo phones feel cheap. They are empty. I switched over to the S3 last week and am really enjoying after having all the iPhones.

2ndchancephones
Jul 24, 2012, 09:01 PM
Of course the demo phones feel cheap. They are empty. I switched over to the S3 last week and am really enjoying after having all the iPhones.

It wasn't empty....it working. Plastic feels cheap.

Mac.World
Jul 24, 2012, 09:17 PM
It wasn't empty....it working. Plastic feels cheap.

your car, home, computer, and tv must feel really cheap then.

As for the iPhone 4, I still have one. I turned it on the other day and I just can't go back to such a tiny little screen, that is such a pain to use in non-jailbroken form. I honestly don't know how you people can live with that.

zbarvian
Jul 24, 2012, 09:58 PM
Both platforms and their respective phones suit different people. That being said, Samsung should be banned from making cell phones. Their screens are fine (sort of) and their SoCs are good, but their build quality, software, and design are horrid. Truly awful.

Mac.World
Jul 24, 2012, 10:03 PM
Both platforms and their respective phones suit different people. That being said, Samsung should be banned from making cell phones. Their screens are fine (sort of) and their SoCs are good, but their build quality, software, and design are horrid. Truly awful.

I guess iPhone and iPad screens are fine (sort of) since they are made by Samsung. :rolleyes:

I, and hundreds of millions others, don't have a problem with Samsung build quality or design. But thank you for taking the time out to share your opinion.

batting1000
Jul 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
I guess iPhone and iPad screens are fine (sort of) since they are made by Samsung. :rolleyes:

Except the iPhone uses a completely different display technology than Samsung uses on their own devices.

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I, and hundreds of millions others, don't have a problem with Samsung build quality or design. But thank you for taking the time out to share your opinion.

List please! :)

2ndchancephones
Jul 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
your car, home, computer, and tv must feel really cheap then.

As for the iPhone 4, I still have one. I turned it on the other day and I just can't go back to such a tiny little screen, that is such a pain to use in non-jailbroken form. I honestly don't know how you people can live with that.

We don't see how you can live with a cheaply made cell phone. To each his own.

rocknblogger
Jul 24, 2012, 10:33 PM
Hundreds of millions, no. Ten million yes:-P

batting1000
Jul 24, 2012, 10:55 PM
Hundreds of millions, no. Ten million yes:-P

I was gonna say that but then I thought the S3 isn't Samsung's only device :p

2ndchancephones
Jul 24, 2012, 10:57 PM
Yup...and it's already been splintered that many times as well.

Mac.World
Jul 25, 2012, 12:11 AM
I was gonna say that but then I thought the S3 isn't Samsung's only device :p

Just the S2 and Galaxy S alone sod more than 82 million. Now the S3 is 2 months old and sold 10 million. And I'm not even including all the other phones they make. So, yes, hundreds of millions over several years.

I understand it can be confusing when a company makes more than 1 phone. :D

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Hundreds of millions, no. Ten million yes:-P

See above.

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Except the iPhone uses a completely different display technology than Samsung uses on their own devices.

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List please! :)

And how do you suppose the IPS screen gets made? Elves and magic? Do you believe that IPS screens were invented by Apple and no one else can use them? Ahhh, stupid me. I forgot. Apple invented everything. :p

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We don't see how you can live with a cheaply made cell phone. To each his own.

Ahh, don't worry about us S3 owners. With a bigger screen, faster processo,r 4 times more RAM, ability to multitask, use a wireless ps3 controller to play games, watch a video while simultaneously web surfing, and of course add an additional 64gb of memory and a larger battery, while you are sand boxed on a dinky little phone... yeah, I can live with that. ::cool:

nuckinfutz
Jul 25, 2012, 12:15 AM
Guys Android users are unproductive which is why they manage to post so much.

With all those widgets and micro-SD cards to manage ...how would they have time to actually get "work" done? :apple:

Mac.World
Jul 25, 2012, 12:33 AM
Guys Android users are unproductive which is why they manage to post so much.

With all those widgets and micro-SD cards to manage ...how would they have time to actually get "work" done? :apple:

Hey, I'm to cheap to work. Even my work hours are discounted. :D

The iGentleman
Jul 25, 2012, 06:18 AM
We don't see how you can live with a cheaply made cell phone. To each his own.

Since you obviously aren't aware, allow me to enlighten you. There's nothing cheap about polycarbonate, which is what the GS3 is made of. In case you didn't know, polycarbonate is a premium material and is very durable. It has hardness up there with kevlar. It helps to know what you're talking about if you're going to make a statement ;-)

daveathall
Jul 25, 2012, 06:23 AM
I have both the 4S and a SGS3, I don't look at one and think that the other has quality issues because its just not true, having said that, since buying my S3 some weeks ago, I haven't had a desire to look at, or use my 4S.

zbarvian
Jul 25, 2012, 06:38 AM
People get so snarky with these debates. I think we can agree neither phone definitively trumps the other in all areas, and much is very subjective.

Hastings101
Jul 25, 2012, 10:59 AM
I own an iPhone 4 and have owned every iPhone. My family has 4 iPads, 3 MacBook Pros and two iMacs. So, I am an Apple guy.

I was in Best Buy the other day and went by the cell phone area and picked up the new Galaxy S3 and wasn't impressed. It felt like a little toy that was cheaply built.

-1, It might be plasticky but at least it doesn't have semi-sharp edges like the iPhone 4/4S :p

batting1000
Jul 25, 2012, 11:27 AM
And how do you suppose the IPS screen gets made? Elves and magic? Do you believe that IPS screens were invented by Apple and no one else can use them? Ahhh, stupid me. I forgot. Apple invented everything. :p

That wasn't my point. My point was one is a Retina display and the other is a pentile Super AMOLED. They produce colors differently and have differently levels of clarity.

2ndchancephones
Jul 25, 2012, 12:13 PM
Since you obviously aren't aware, allow me to enlighten you. There's nothing cheap about polycarbonate, which is what the GS3 is made of. In case you didn't know, polycarbonate is a premium material and is very durable. It has hardness up there with kevlar. It helps to know what you're talking about if you're going to make a statement ;-)

Doesn't matter to me what it is made of....whatever it is FEELS cheap.

Mac.World
Jul 25, 2012, 12:36 PM
That wasn't my point. My point was one is a Retina display and the other is a pentile Super AMOLED. They produce colors differently and have differently levels of clarity.

I was hoping my emoticon would carry my meaning better. I know what you were saying, I was just being a sarcastic arse. :D

And there is no such thing as a 'retina' display. Pentile and IPS are types of display technology. The former has an additional green pixel rgbg, consumes less energy, and is thinner, but can over saturate colors and give a bluish, white hue to bright white content.

Additionally, the S3 has 306 ppi at 4.8 inches compared to the iPhone 4S at 326 ppi at 3.5 inches. By Apples own definition off ppi/display size, the S3 qualifies as 'retina' ;) all that said, the clarity of the iPhone is a hair better than the S3. I had to look really, really close at both screens to see the difference. But considering the S3 is 1.5 inches bigger, as is the HOX, they all have great screens at very high ppi's.

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Doesn't matter to me what it is made of....whatever it is FEELS cheap.

Much like your posts. :D

zbarvian
Jul 25, 2012, 12:38 PM
I was hoping my emotion would carry my meaning better. I know what you were saying, I was just being a sarcastic arse. :D

And there is no such thing as a 'retina' display. Pentile and IPS are types of display technology. The former has an additional green pixel rgbg, consumes less energy, and is thinner, but can over saturate colors and give
Blemish white hue to bright white content.

Additionally, the S3 has 306 ppi at 4.8 inches compared to the iPhone 4S at 326 ppi at 3.5 inches. By Apples own definition off ppi/display size, the S3 qualifies as 'retina' ;) all that said, the clarity of the iPhone is a hair better than the S3. I had to look really, really close at both screens to see the difference. But considering the S3 is 1.5 inches bigger, as is the HOX, they all have great screens at very high ppi's.

That extra green subpixel is also a concern because it can cause some fuzziness, though I'm sure that issue is lessened at super high pixel densities.

mjpearce023
Jul 25, 2012, 05:02 PM
I don't have a problem with the feel of the S3 plastic but it does worry me a bit that some people are having cracking problems. I read another article that said Samsung is going to fix the cracked cases. I'm still up in the air if I should get one or not.

http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/07/samsung-galaxy-s3-facing-more-issues-as.html

kevinof
Jul 26, 2012, 04:00 AM
... I don't think I'll go out today and it might rain... turns out to be a gorgeous day with the sun splitting the stones!....

I think its a lot more minor that you think. I have the S3 and I know 4 others that have one and there are no cracks to be found on any of them. For those few that do get cracks Samsung will fix the problem. Just get the damn phone , enjoy it and stop thinking "what if?".:)




I don't have a problem with the feel of the S3 plastic but it does worry me a bit that some people are having cracking problems. I read another article that said Samsung is going to fix the cracked cases. I'm still up in the air if I should get one or not.

http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/07/samsung-galaxy-s3-facing-more-issues-as.html

Sven11
Jul 26, 2012, 05:42 AM
My opinion:

iPhone 4S > iPhone 4 > iPhone 3GS > iPhone 3G > iPhone > Everything else

daveathall
Jul 26, 2012, 05:46 AM
I have no problem with the quality of the S3, I think it is superb, I now regard it as the best phone I have owned to date. I do however prefer the camera on the iPhone 4S, that is probably because I haven't mastered the one on the S3 yet, I find it less intuitive as on the 4S, it's not a huge problem, it will come.

mjpearce023
Jul 26, 2012, 08:12 AM
... I don't think I'll go out today and it might rain... turns out to be a gorgeous day with the sun splitting the stones!....

I think its a lot more minor that you think. I have the S3 and I know 4 others that have one and there are no cracks to be found on any of them. For those few that do get cracks Samsung will fix the problem. Just get the damn phone , enjoy it and stop thinking "what if?".:)

The main reason I haven't gotten one yet is because I'm waiting for the iPhone 5 announcement. I already have a S3 case picked out on Amazon so I know the plastic wouldn't be a big deal. I definitely wouldn’t risk it by not using a case after seeing that article. If I don't like the new iPhone it will be between the S3 and the new Nexus whenever it comes out. Honestly I would prefer to stay with the iPhone because I have it synced up with my iPad and Apple TV. I also don't look forward to buying all new apps so that's why I'm still up in the air.

SprSynJn
Jul 26, 2012, 08:21 AM
Actually, battery life is better than the 4S, but you need to realize that you have to control your settings. Apple does it for you.

This is exactly why I prefer Apple products. I had an Android phone that would die halfway through the day with barely any use because I didn't switch everything off. I am still confused as to why I would need to kill the wifi when I never have to on my iOS device. Programming and all that, I know. But I'm still blown away on how long Apple devices last during the day without any tinkering.

The iGentleman
Jul 26, 2012, 11:26 PM
This is exactly why I prefer Apple products. I had an Android phone that would die halfway through the day with barely any use because I didn't switch everything off. I am still confused as to why I would need to kill the wifi when I never have to on my iOS device. Programming and all that, I know. But I'm still blown away on how long Apple devices last during the day without any tinkering.

I haven't done anything special at all, and my GS3 easily has better battery than my 4S did. I don't turn off any radios, and I actually use it more often (I find I surf the web much more on my GS3 than I did on the 4S because of the extra screen size), and it lasts longer than my 4S did.

Jb07
Jul 26, 2012, 11:58 PM
I used to be part of the "Plastic feels cheap" camp, but now it's just a ridiculous argument. Samsung uses plastic, and all of the sudden their phones feel like toys, but Apple can use plastic, and the phone is still amazing because it has a shiny chrome Apple logo on the back.
I'm assuming you also think the iPhone 3G and 3GS also feel cheap, right?

2ndchancephones
Jul 27, 2012, 12:20 AM
I used to be part of the "Plastic feels cheap" camp, but now it's just a ridiculous argument. Samsung uses plastic, and all of the sudden their phones feel like toys, but Apple can use plastic, and the phone is still amazing because it has a shiny chrome Apple logo on the back.
I'm assuming you also think the iPhone 3G and 3GS also feel cheap, right?

Compared to the 4, yes. Your justifying your argument. Click your heels fast three times and repeat "plastic doesn't feel cheap". Yes, the iPhones did use plastic on their phones but it's been a few years back.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 01:00 AM
I used to be part of the "Plastic feels cheap" camp, but now it's just a ridiculous argument. Samsung uses plastic, and all of the sudden their phones feel like toys, but Apple can use plastic, and the phone is still amazing because it has a shiny chrome Apple logo on the back.
I'm assuming you also think the iPhone 3G and 3GS also feel cheap, right?

They have to find something so they can feel better about what they have. As someone who's owned both the iphone and the GS3, I will say I feel much more secure about my GS3 than my 4S from a durability standpoint. I had a coworker break a back glass by hitting the corner of a desk as he was walking by with the phone is his pocket. That would not happen with polycarbonate. On another note, I don't understand why people think glass is so expensive lol. It's not like it's some expensive premium material. It's inexpensive and fragile, that isn't impressive at all.

zbarvian
Jul 27, 2012, 07:42 AM
They have to find something so they can feel better about what they have. As someone who's owned both the iphone and the GS3, I will say I feel much more secure about my GS3 than my 4S from a durability standpoint. I had a coworker break a back glass by hitting the corner of a desk as he was walking by with the phone is his pocket. That would not happen with polycarbonate. On another note, I don't understand why people think glass is so expensive lol. It's not like it's some expensive premium material. It's inexpensive and fragile, that isn't impressive at all.

The iPhone 3G and 3GS were much cheaper feeling than the 4 and 4S, I thought that before the 4 even came out. It was also a much harder plastic, though, not like the thin, flimsy plastic of the S3. And glass isn't an expensive material, but the iPhone 4S feels way more sturdy and solid than the S3, undoubtedly. That's the whole argument, really, not how luxurious or "premium" glass is as a material.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 08:01 AM
The iPhone 3G and 3GS were much cheaper feeling than the 4 and 4S, I thought that before the 4 even came out. It was also a much harder plastic, though, not like the thin, flimsy plastic of the S3. And glass isn't an expensive material, but the iPhone 4S feels way more sturdy and solid than the S3, undoubtedly. That's the whole argument, really, not how luxurious or "premium" glass is as a material.

If one were to drop both from about waist height on to concrete, IMHO, neither would fare well. If however I was forced to bet on one or the other surviving with least amount of damage, it definitely would not be the 4S that would get my vote. If you were to drop them on their back, the flimsy plastic as you put it would probably survive, the glass back of the 4S probably would not.

I would definitely not recommend dropping any smart phone.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 08:37 AM
The iPhone 3G and 3GS were much cheaper feeling than the 4 and 4S, I thought that before the 4 even came out. It was also a much harder plastic, though, not like the thin, flimsy plastic of the S3. And glass isn't an expensive material, but the iPhone 4S feels way more sturdy and solid than the S3, undoubtedly. That's the whole argument, really, not how luxurious or "premium" glass is as a material.

You have to get past the old "cheap" and "flimsy" plastic buzz words. The GS3 is made of polycarbonate, and there's nothing neither cheap now flimsy about it. Polycarbonate is one of the strongest materials you can use in a phone. It has hardness rated up there is kevlar. So unless you think kevlar is flimsy, then there's nothing flimsy or cheap about what the GS3 is built from. BTW, I don't think the 4S feels anymore sturdy than any other phone. To be honest, when I had my 4 and 4S, I thought it felt more fragile. The aluminum trim was easily scratched, heck even a case could scratch it, and the glass felt like it could break at any time. A co-worker broke their back glass by hitting a table corner with the phone in their pocket, that wouldn't happen with polycarbonate.

Zaft
Jul 27, 2012, 08:50 AM
You have to get past the old "cheap" and "flimsy" plastic buzz words. The GS3 is made of polycarbonate, and there's nothing neither cheap now flimsy about it. Polycarbonate is one of the strongest materials you can use in a phone. It has hardness rated up there is kevlar. So unless you think kevlar is flimsy, then there's nothing flimsy or cheap about what the GS3 is built from. BTW, I don't think the 4S feels anymore sturdy than any other phone. To be honest, when I had my 4 and 4S, I thought it felt more fragile. The aluminum trim was easily scratched, heck even a case could scratch it, and the glass felt like it could break at any time. A co-worker broke their back glass by hitting a table corner with the phone in their pocket, that wouldn't happen with polycarbonate.

Im not sure how strong it is now, new reports are saying its getting cracks like the white 3GS used to.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 08:58 AM
Im not sure how strong it is now, new reports are saying its getting cracks like the white 3GS used to.

There are reports of some. There's nothing indicating anything widespread. So there are some defective models out there, it happens.

AustinIllini
Jul 27, 2012, 09:20 AM
I guess iPhone and iPad screens are fine (sort of) since they are made by Samsung. :rolleyes:

I, and hundreds of millions others, don't have a problem with Samsung build quality or design. But thank you for taking the time out to share your opinion.

Once you put a case on in, it doesn't matter. I know a lot of people don't use cases, but many do. Who cares what the thing is made of when it's covered on all sides.

2ndchancephones
Jul 27, 2012, 09:25 AM
If one were to drop both from about waist height on to concrete, IMHO, neither would fare well. If however I was forced to bet on one or the other surviving with least amount of damage, it definitely would not be the 4S that would get my vote. If you were to drop them on their back, the flimsy plastic as you put it would probably survive, the glass back of the 4S probably would not.

I would definitely not recommend dropping any smart phone.

I don't believe my post here was about dropping them??? I have had all the iPhones and have dropped them maybe 3-4 times over the years, so that isn't a concern for me. I was simply stating that the GS3 feels cheap and there is no getting around that...ESPECIALLY compared to the iPhone 4 or 4S.

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Once you put a case on in, it doesn't matter. I know a lot of people don't use cases, but many do. Who cares what the thing is made of when it's covered on all sides.

and I'm one of these that don't use a case..hehe

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 09:33 AM
I don't believe my post here was about dropping them??? I have had all the iPhones and have dropped them maybe 3-4 times over the years, so that isn't a concern for me. I was simply stating that the GS3 feels cheap and there is no getting around that...ESPECIALLY compared to the iPhone 4 or 4S.[COLOR="#808080"]


I didnt quote you, I was replying to someone else, read my post in context. I will now reply to you. The GS3 feels cheap IN YOUR OPINION. Not mine.

You started a thread that has seen some decent discussion, your undoubted bias, as has been amply portrayed, including your initial post is ruining your thread or did you just want it to descend into argument?


Edit;
I actually thought that my posts were replying to a different thread, I went back and read the first post, I should have done that before my submissions here, it would have saved me some time. I wouldn't have bothered replying to this one. I have deleted my longest post and put it elsewhere.


I have had all the iPhones and have dropped them maybe 3-4 times over the years, so that isn't a concern for me.
Of course you have.:rolleyes:

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 09:45 AM
I don't believe my post here was about dropping them??? I have had all the iPhones and have dropped them maybe 3-4 times over the years, so that isn't a concern for me. I was simply stating that the GS3 feels cheap and there is no getting around that...ESPECIALLY compared to the iPhone 4 or 4S.

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and I'm one of these that don't use a case..hehe

Sorry, the GS3 may feel "cheap" to you, but to other's that may not be the case. Actually, I think the GS3 feels MUCH better than the 4s. The 4S feels poorly designed, as it is not comfortable to hold at all, and it feels fragile. The GS3 on the other hand feels comfortable, and like it's designed to actually be held.

Zaft
Jul 27, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sorry, the GS3 may feel "cheap" to you, but to other's that may not be the case. Actually, I think the GS3 feels MUCH better than the 4s. The 4S feels poorly designed, as it is not comfortable to hold at all, and it feels fragile. The GS3 on the other hand feels comfortable, and like it's designed to actually be held.

The iPhone 4/4s does have some sharp corners, holding the 3G/3GS was better that's for sure.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:01 AM
The iPhone 4/4s does have some sharp corners, holding the 3G/3GS was better that's for sure.

You're right, I just cut myself on the edge... :rolleyes:

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
The iPhone 4/4s does have some sharp corners, holding the 3G/3GS was better that's for sure.

I agree. The 3GS had a decent enough ergonomic design, whereas the 4 and 4S have absolutely no ergonomics at all. It just isn't comfortable at all to hold, and holding it for an extended period of time can REALLY become uncomfortable. When I was using the 4 and 4S, when I held it I thought about it, because of the way it felt. When I held the 3GS, I didn't think about it. When I hold the GS3, I don't think about it, because it feels good in the hand.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:10 AM
I agree. The 3GS had a decent enough ergonomic design, whereas the 4 and 4S have absolutely no ergonomics at all. It just isn't comfortable at all to hold, and holding it for an extended period of time can REALLY become uncomfortable. When I was using the 4 and 4S, when I held it I thought about it, because of the way it felt. When I held the 3GS, I didn't think about it. When I hold the GS3, I don't think about it, because it feels good in the hand.

I really think you're "reaching" here, as you would say...

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 10:11 AM
You're right, I just cut myself on the edge... :rolleyes:

He doesn't mean sharp like it will cut you. He means the corners are sharp as in 90 degrees. The phone is made of right angles, and that isn't a comfortable thing in hand. The human hand is not designed to comfortable hold onto corners. That's why ergonomic design is stressed in many different things (computer mouse, keyboards, game controllers, etc). Ergonomics are important when it comes to comfort. The 4S has NO ergonomic design at all, hence why it isn't as comfortable to hold as many other phones.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:24 AM
He doesn't mean sharp like it will cut you. He means the corners are sharp as in 90 degrees. The phone is made of right angles, and that isn't a comfortable thing in hand. The human hand is not designed to comfortable hold onto corners. That's why ergonomic design is stressed in many different things (computer mouse, keyboards, game controllers, etc). Ergonomics are important when it comes to comfort. The 4S has NO ergonomic design at all, hence why it isn't as comfortable to hold as many other phones.

Both phones have curved corners so I'm not really seeing what you're talking about. Plus, you hold the phone on the sides, not on the corners.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 10:30 AM
Both phones have curved corners so I'm not really seeing what you're talking about. Plus, you hold the phone on the sides, not on the corners.

Look at your phone, it is full of 90 degree angles, the only place there aren't any is at the corners.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
Look at your phone, it is full of 90 degree angles, the only place there aren't any is at the corners.

Alright, but they're all curved. I've never had any issue with it being uncomfortable so I can't attest to that.

nickchallis92
Jul 27, 2012, 10:36 AM
You have to get past the old "cheap" and "flimsy" plastic buzz words. The GS3 is made of polycarbonate, and there's nothing neither cheap now flimsy about it. Polycarbonate is one of the strongest materials you can use in a phone. It has hardness rated up there is kevlar. So unless you think kevlar is flimsy, then there's nothing flimsy or cheap about what the GS3 is built from. BTW, I don't think the 4S feels anymore sturdy than any other phone. To be honest, when I had my 4 and 4S, I thought it felt more fragile. The aluminum trim was easily scratched, heck even a case could scratch it, and the glass felt like it could break at any time. A co-worker broke their back glass by hitting a table corner with the phone in their pocket, that wouldn't happen with polycarbonate.

im inclined to agree with this. I'm very careless with phones and always end up smashing them to pieces, but i've dropped my s3 many times and it looks brand new.

still, always got that insurance to cling on to haha

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:40 AM
You have to get past the old "cheap" and "flimsy" plastic buzz words. The GS3 is made of polycarbonate, and there's nothing neither cheap now flimsy about it. Polycarbonate is one of the strongest materials you can use in a phone. It has hardness rated up there is kevlar. So unless you think kevlar is flimsy, then there's nothing flimsy or cheap about what the GS3 is built from. BTW, I don't think the 4S feels anymore sturdy than any other phone. To be honest, when I had my 4 and 4S, I thought it felt more fragile. The aluminum trim was easily scratched, heck even a case could scratch it, and the glass felt like it could break at any time. A co-worker broke their back glass by hitting a table corner with the phone in their pocket, that wouldn't happen with polycarbonate.

Well yeah, if I took the battery cover off the S3 I could probably bend it in half it's so thin and plastic-like.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
Well yeah, if I took the battery cover off the S3 I could probably bend it in half it's so thin and plastic-like.

Take the back off your 4S and you could snap it quite easily. The point is that you dont use your 4S or SGS3 with the back removed.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 10:53 AM
Take the back off your 4S and you could snap it quite easily. The point is that you dont use your 4S or SGS3 with the back removed.

The back doesn't come off unless I unscrew the screws and there's no reason for it to come off anyway. The Galaxy S3 back does come off if I need to replace / remove / put in the battery, put the sim card in / take it out, or put in an sd card / take it out. Of course you don't use it with the cover off but there are many occasions where it needs to come off.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 10:58 AM
The back doesn't come off unless I unscrew the screws and there's no reason for it to come off anyway. The Galaxy S3 back does come off if I need to replace / remove / put in the battery, put the sim card in / take it out, or put in an sd card / take it out. Of course you don't use it with the cover off but there are many occasions where it needs to come off.

There just isn't many occasions, mine has been off once, to put the sim card in.

If you are going to compare the backs from 2 phones it must be like for like, you wouldn't be able to bend the back of a SGS3 while it was attached to the phone, similar to a 4S.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 11:00 AM
There just isn't, mine has been off once to put the sim card in.

If you are going to compare the backs from 2 phones it must be like for like, you wouldn't be able to bend the back of a SGS3 while it was attached to the phone, similar to a 4S.

No, that's just an excuse for the fact that it does come off and is flimsy. I don't care how you compare it; it still comes off the phone and there's no denying that.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 11:06 AM
No, that's just an excuse for the fact that it does come off and is flimsy. I don't care how you compare it; it still comes off the phone and there's no denying that.

Can you show me the post where I denied the fact that it came off the phone?

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 11:22 AM
Can you show me the post where I denied the fact that it came off the phone?

I never said you denied it. I was just saying how it doesn't matter how you compare the backs. The S3 back still comes off no matter how you compare it to another devices cover.

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 11:34 AM
I never said you denied it. I was just saying how it doesn't matter how you compare the backs. The S3 back still comes off no matter how you compare it to another devices cover.

But if you want to compare something it should be like for like. On your comparison, the whole of the iPhone 4 is stronger than the back of a SGS3 and in that fact you are correct.

Take the back off your iP4 and compare it with the S3 for a true comparison.

The back comes off the SGS3 to allow the user the opportunity to change the battery, if he wants, or add storage, if he wants. The choice is there. Personally I have not needed either option but it is nice to know that the option is there for me.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 11:37 AM
Well yeah, if I took the battery cover off the S3 I could probably bend it in half it's so thin and plastic-like.

Yet and still its hardness is harder than glass.....imagine that. ;)

PS
Why would a person purposely put their battery cover through contortions? I could break the iPhone's glass in half, but that doesn't make sense either. :rolleyes:

2ndchancephones
Jul 27, 2012, 06:03 PM
This thread has gone down the wrong road...who cares about what/how a phone is like if you take the back off???

..and the whole 90 degree angle comment??? Exactly what kind of form do you want? Even the cheaply made GS3 has curved corners????

daveathall
Jul 27, 2012, 06:18 PM
This thread has gone down the wrong road...who cares about what/how a phone is like if you take the back off???

..and the whole 90 degree angle comment??? Exactly what kind of form do you want? Even the cheaply made GS3 has curved corners????


You don't know what 90 degrees is do you? go google it.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 10:17 PM
You don't know what 90 degrees is do you? go google it.

lol Apparently he does not LMAO! :eek:

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This thread has gone down the wrong road...who cares about what/how a phone is like if you take the back off???

..and the whole 90 degree angle comment??? Exactly what kind of form do you want? Even the cheaply made GS3 has curved corners????

:eek::eek:

....you do realize a curved corner cannot be 90 degrees right? .... You DO know what 90 degrees is right? If not, I'll be happy to explain right angles to you.... :eek:

2ndchancephones
Jul 28, 2012, 07:35 AM
lol Apparently he does not LMAO! :eek:

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:eek::eek:

....you do realize a curved corner cannot be 90 degrees right? .... You DO know what 90 degrees is right? If not, I'll be happy to explain right angles to you.... :eek:

mmmm....ya think?