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Futhark
Jul 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
Does anyone know of any good home study courses for learning Objective-C or Tutors that specialise in teaching Objective-C?



larswik
Jul 24, 2012, 03:35 PM
So where you live are there any local colleges that have any computer classes? The best thing I did was to take an evening course at my local city college. Learning in a structured environment is a very good thing and you are able to talk to peers and such.

Do you have that ability where you are?

Futhark
Jul 24, 2012, 04:35 PM
So where you live are there any local colleges that have any computer classes? The best thing I did was to take an evening course at my local city college. Learning in a structured environment is a very good thing and you are able to talk to peers and such.

Do you have that ability where you are?

I've been on the local website and can't see anything listed. I think this would really help me if I had a proper class structure to attend or follow.

softwareguy256
Jul 24, 2012, 07:50 PM
There is no substitute for hard work. the best teachers either don't teach (they do) or charge consulting fees so high that you will not be able to afford. solution: use google and get to work.

Does anyone know of any good home study courses for learning Objective-C or Tutors that specialise in teaching Objective-C?

larswik
Jul 25, 2012, 02:53 AM
So about 20 days ago you said you were learning C

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1399212

and now you are looking for tutors or home study courses in Objective C. Did you learn C and write a number of programs so it syncs in? I think I saw some small samples you were working on.

I am taking a guess here that you rushed through C and did a few small projects but not enough to really grasp it. Can you write a Black Jack card game in C?

I totally agree with softwareguy256 to a point because that is what I did. What I learned in school, after reading the books, was how to tackle large projects and break them in to small solvable parts. How to create top down designs and Psudo code to outline projects. Reading books you learn the tools but not really how to apply what you learn to make things, so school filled in those blanks. A forum like this is the second best thing to a class room.

If you rushed through the C book and now you are lost I would say keep making C projects till you get good at them and can write them without referring to the book for help.

I wrote a console Black Jack program before I picked up my Objective C book. That help me better understand the logic. I spent a year learning C and then Objective C before I even made a GUI app and started with Cocoa.

So if you learned C write a Black Jack console based program to test your C skills. It took me a week to do, about 40 hours when I was learning. If you read the book in 20 days you are not ready is my guess. It takes time and practice or the end result will be you think it is to hard and just quit. When the problem all along is that you rushed yourself.

It's just my 2 cents because I have been there 2 years ago and now I have an app in the app store. But it took lots of time practicing and learning.

DrMotownMac
Jul 26, 2012, 12:25 AM
I'm trying to learn stuff on my own right now too...and it's a very daunting task. I THINK the best bet might be to star with the Stanford Computer Science curriculum on iTunes U. This Professor Paul Haggerty has outstanding reviews for teaching iOS classes, but his course has prerequisites...namely Programming Methodology and Programming Abstactions. The first course has no pre-reqs and teaches Java. The second course has the pre-req of the first course and teaches C++. Paul Haggerty's course requires the first two, and it teaches Objective-C and Cocoa Touch. I think after Stanford's three core classes, you'd have a solid foundation...and you should know how to program a blackjack game by the end of that.

By the way, in high school and college, I learned Basic, Pascal and FORTRAN-77, and I DID make a simple console blackjack game as my final project in Pascal for my high school course. The problem is that this was over 25 years ago, and I've been practicing medicine for the past 15 (with no computer programming). I think I could relearn the logic quickly. It's the syntax and "how-to" part, along with the object-oriented part, that's going to take some real effort. But my goal is to put something up on the App Store eventually as well.

What do you guys think of the Stanford iTunes U route?

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By the way, I know it sucks to have to learn all of those languages when you just want Objective-C, but I think Stanford University is a very reputable college and I have to believe they have a good system in place for teaching this stuff, right? Spend some time getting the foundation, and I think the later material will come more easily.