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RobT
Jul 24, 2012, 05:36 PM
I've been running the GM since it was released on my MacBook Pro late '08. Just want to post a few thoughts as helpful advice (random thoughts) as well as to hopefully generate some excitement.

1. I'm really liking Mountain Lion a lot, NOT because of added features or new apps (like Reminders) but because it runs so well. I was all ready to look at getting new hardware because I was counting on Mountain Lion to drag...not so. Best OS performer in a long time. can keep my '08 MacBook Pro a little longer. Highly recommend this upgrade if for nothing else than the performance improvement. And at $19.99, why not?

2. The new dock is nice but not (at this time) easily changed (skinned). If someone knows of an app that allows changes to the dock appearance in ML, I'd love to hear about it. Apps like Dock Library don't work in ML.

3. Overall, app compatibility in my experience is great. Other than Dock Library, all the apps I'm bringing over from Lion work fine (with possible exception of Carbon Copy Cloner, which now has a paid upgrade. Current (not upgraded) version of CCC seems to work, but I can't guarantee it).

4. Do a clean install. Clean install works just like Lion EXCEPT won't fit on standard DVD (need dual layer this time). I personally use USB stick (8GB) and it works like a charm. Use app Lion Diskmaker if you need help with this process (found here: http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/

5. Try Safari (again). If you've been using Chrome or other browser (like I have) use the version of Safari that comes with ML (at least give it a try). I'm not a real Safari fan but have found it runs much smoother than Chrome in ML. Future updates to Chrome may change all this but for now Safari is the best running browser in my experience on ML.

6. Rejoice that LaunchPad doesn't keep screwing up app order anymore after a reboot.

7. Rejoice that mouse tracking speed with the Magic Mouse doesn't need Magic Prefs anymore to work worth a crap.

8. Get excited that your (even older) computer will run great (at least a lot more smoothly) again and the update is coming your way tomorrow.



nuckinfutz
Jul 24, 2012, 05:39 PM
I
simply
cannot
wait

smirk
Jul 24, 2012, 05:52 PM
4. Do a clean install.

Thanks for all the info! When you say to do a clean install, what exactly do you mean by that? Save and restore all your user data, reinstall all your apps, that kind of thing?

mogwat
Jul 24, 2012, 05:54 PM
Loaded ML up yesterday and everything I expected to work worked plus some. One or two didn't but I expect an update on release day will fix those. HOWEVER, I haven't had a chance to delve deeply into the reason but I can no longer connect to my Windows Home Server Shares!! How freakin' difficult can this be Apple! Either fix it properly or release a Mac I can stick 8TB of Hard Drives in!

eagandale4114
Jul 24, 2012, 05:55 PM
Thanks for all the info! When you say to do a clean install, what exactly do you mean by that? Save and restore all your user data, reinstall all your apps, that kind of thing?

Create bootable USB disk. Reformat hard drive. Erase all data on the main partition. Then install. Then manually move over data. DO NOT USE TIME MACHINE for the last step.

cambookpro
Jul 24, 2012, 06:00 PM
Create bootable USB disk. Reformat hard drive. Erase all data on the main partition. Then install. Then manually move over data. DO NOT USE TIME MACHINE for the last step.

I don't think this is necessary. Sure, if you have the time then it may be useful to clear out old and unused plists/prefs, but it's not like we're upgrading Windows ;)
I've always just upgraded with no problems.

Nermal
Jul 24, 2012, 06:01 PM
HOWEVER, I haven't had a chance to delve deeply into the reason but I can no longer connect to my Windows Home Server Shares!!

What version of WHS are you running? I'm still on v1 and can still connect to my shares from both of my ML systems.

smirk
Jul 24, 2012, 06:04 PM
Loaded ML up yesterday and everything I expected to work worked plus some. One or two didn't but I expect an update on release day will fix those. HOWEVER, I haven't had a chance to delve deeply into the reason but I can no longer connect to my Windows Home Server Shares!!

Are you upgrading from Lion or SL? Because Lion introduced some SMB issues that perhaps are just continued into ML.

RobT
Jul 24, 2012, 06:33 PM
Create bootable USB disk. Reformat hard drive. Erase all data on the main partition. Then install. Then manually move over data. DO NOT USE TIME MACHINE for the last step.

Exactly! That's how to do it.

Icaras
Jul 24, 2012, 07:00 PM
This will be the first OSX upgrade in which i will not perform a clean install. I think I've been paranoid all these years, after having been with Windows for such a long time. Upgrading OS X shouldn't have to be like upgrading Windows. Apple has clearly designed the process to be as streamlined and painless as can be.

Come tomorrow, I'll upgrade, and restore data from my Time Capsule. Easy.

Edit: Oops, not restoring data. Just upgrading.

kodeman53
Jul 24, 2012, 07:06 PM
...and restore data from my Time Capsule. Easy.

If you're doing the upgrade, why the restore?

Icaras
Jul 24, 2012, 07:24 PM
If you're doing the upgrade, why the restore?

Oh, oops. Wow, look at me. See, I'm so used to doing clean installs, that my response was automatic. :p

Correction, tomorrow I will just upgrade. :cool:

yaymath
Jul 24, 2012, 07:40 PM
4. Do a clean install. Clean install works just like Lion EXCEPT won't fit on standard DVD (need dual layer this time). I personally use USB stick (8GB) and it works like a charm. Use app Lion Diskmaker if you need help with this process (found here: http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/

Do you mean that the installation file is more than 4 GB? I really don't want to buy a new USB flash drive, because the one I have is 4 GB. And I think that the guide "Migrating to Mountain Lion" that someone posted on this forum says that 4 GB. Is it?

Processor
Jul 24, 2012, 07:41 PM
Are you upgrading from Lion or SL? Because Lion introduced some SMB issues that perhaps are just continued into ML.

the issues may be addressed on ML

ECUpirate44
Jul 24, 2012, 07:48 PM
Anyone have any idea when the ML recovery app is going to come out?

RobT
Jul 24, 2012, 08:06 PM
Do you mean that the installation file is more than 4 GB? I really don't want to buy a new USB flash drive, because the one I have is 4 GB. And I think that the guide "Migrating to Mountain Lion" that someone posted on this forum says that 4 GB. Is it?

Yes, a little larger than 4GB.

yaymath
Jul 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
Yes, a little larger than 4GB.

Even if it is a little larger, would the 4.3 GB of a DVD not be enough? I hope I don't have to spend extra money for a new USB Drive.

Dorv
Jul 24, 2012, 08:54 PM
I experienced a significant hit to battery life when I upgraded to Lion on my Mid 2010 MBP.

Can anyone speak to the battery life I should expect comparatively under ML?

JohnDoe98
Jul 24, 2012, 08:57 PM
Anyone have any idea when the ML recovery app is going to come out?

Probably tomorrow too.

gumblecosby
Jul 24, 2012, 09:27 PM
Similar to Lion, you will see mdworker (spotlight) run for a while to index your files. It will calm down after a period of time.

modoCosmo
Jul 24, 2012, 09:39 PM
I used to run Windows machines and always performed clean installs..... However since i used Macs (since Panther) i have only once clean upgraded and since Snow Leopard i havent bothered and to be honest never noticed a difference....

I think all this clean upgrade advice is given by paranoid ex Windows users.......