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Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 02:58 PM
Watching some YouTube videos of CyanogenMod 10 for the SGS3 and HTC One X I'm really really impressed. It looks like Android is now 2x faster and specially smoother. Just look at how fast apps open or how smooth scrolling is in the browser (it completely destroys Safari) and app drawer. It's really amazing.

IOS is smooth, but not to this point. I've been using iOS for 3 years and I can clearly tell it's not as smooth and fast as project butter.

I'll post some links so you guys can see how fast apps open. It's really amazing. Less than a second.

hL5nTprjOZQ

ZsF02hBBK_I

And the most impressive is that this are unofficial ports and betas. After watching them no one can deny anymore that Android 4.1 is faster than iOS. It's undeniable now.

So now that Android is faster and smoother, what will be the next big excuse for Android haters?

Android is clearly surpassing iOS. Now the new king of smoothness and faster mobile OS is Android and not iOS.



basesloaded190
Jul 26, 2012, 02:59 PM
Not sure what the point of this thread is?

zbarvian
Jul 26, 2012, 03:02 PM
There are several factors to consider in this:

First, Android may be running its animations at a higher frame rate than iOS, but compared to iOS, many of Android's animations are simple and hardly graphically taxing. Also, the touch response on iOS is still tighter than Android, which is equally important, perhaps more so, than smooth transitions.ii

I will say that Android does appear to load applications quicker, but that may be attributed to the much more powerful processors in the devices you mentioned.

Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 03:05 PM
There are several factors to consider in this:

First, Android may be running its animations at a higher frame rate than iOS, but compared to iOS, many of Android's animations are simple and hardly graphically taxing. Also, the touch response on iOS is still tighter than Android, which is equally important, perhaps more so, than smooth transitions.ii

I will say that Android does appear to load applications quicker, but that may be attributed to the much more powerful processors in the devices you mentioned.

Project butter also makes touch input the priority, just like iOS.

Ddyracer
Jul 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
links

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL5nTprjOZQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsF02hBBK_I&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Links dont work unless i quote them.

batting1000
Jul 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
How does those videos prove Android is smoother? It's obvious the OP is trying to stir up trouble.

daveathall
Jul 26, 2012, 03:15 PM
From my experience, the touch response of the SG3S is as good as an iP4S, if not better.

ChazUK
Jul 26, 2012, 03:20 PM
I'm sorry but Windows Phone 7.5 > all when it comes to touch response and fluidity from my experience.

It really is a joy to use and is extremely well optimised for the Snapdragon chip sets it runs on.

Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
How does those videos prove Android is smoother? It's obvious the OP is trying to stir up trouble.

Ok Batting...

I just watched those videos right now and saw how fast and smooth Android 4.1 is and decided to share it because many people claim Android is not as fast or smooth as iOS. Well... now it seems it's faster and smoother, doesn't it? It's undeniable.

Just wanted to share the videos.

The thing is now Android is the new king in speed and fluidity. And those videos DO show it. Anyone with experience on both OS will immediately see the difference in the speed while watching the videos.

batting1000
Jul 26, 2012, 03:27 PM
Ok Batting...

I just watched those videos right now and saw how fast and smooth Android 4.1 is and decided to share it because many people claim Android is not as far or smooth as iOS. Well... now it seems it's faster and smoother, doesn't it? It's undeniable.

Just wanted to share the videos.

Sure it seems smoother and I admit that it is, but the thread title is deceiving. When you see the title, you expect to see some sort of test or something that proves Android is smoother, and not just links to two videos showing custom ROMs running on two Android devices. Everyone here knows custom ROMs are optimized and such, EVEN THOUGH Android 4.1 is already fairly smooth.

Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sure it seems smoother and I admit that it is, but the thread title is deceiving. When you see the title, you expect to see some sort of test or something that proves Android is smoother, and not just links to two videos showing custom ROMs running on two Android devices. Everyone here knows custom ROMs are optimized and such, EVEN THOUGH Android 4.1 is already fairly smooth.

Preferences aside, we must give credit when it's due. I want to see if a dual core o single core Android phone will have that speed and fluidity too.

batting1000
Jul 26, 2012, 03:32 PM
Preferences aside, we must give credit when it's due. I want to see if a dual core o single core Android phone will have that speed and fluidity too.

Yeah, look at the Nexus S running 4.1. It's pretty smooth, but of course the quad-core devices will load things faster. The Galaxy Nexus is running 4.1 and it's dual-core. Just search YouTube.

zbarvian
Jul 26, 2012, 03:35 PM
Project butter also makes touch input the priority, just like iOS.

Not true, actually. It ramps the CPU up when the user touches the screen, and anticipates touch, but that whole touch input not being the priority was a big fallacy.

I've used every platform, and I can say that the iPhone 4s clearly has the best touch response and finger tracking. It really does. Windows phone comes close (except for the Lumia 900), and Android might be smooth, but it just can't track your finger as tightly as iOS.

Dontazemebro
Jul 26, 2012, 03:38 PM
Haha that guy looks like a used car salesman. I agree android is now smoother but I wouldn't trust that dude lol

onthecouchagain
Jul 26, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jelly Bean hiccups on my GSM Galaxy Nexus. Certain things are faster and "butterier" like when opening apps, or when hitting the App Switcher menu. But in terms of smoothness, honestly, ICS was smoother. After exiting an app, if you try to swipe between home screens right away, there's a very noticeable hiccup, like the frame rate is skipping a few beats, on that first swipe. This might be "micro-lag" that I've been reading about (not positive I understand that term).

To be honest, I feel JB is a downgrade in some ways. The keyboard has taken a huge step backwards, and Project Butter is overhyped. The differences between JB and iOS are negligible but that's only because iOS isn't perfect either. There's noticeable lag on iOS when opening folders sometimes, or when scrolling through certain things too, but these things seem to occur less frequently on iOS than on JB. On JB, I can actively recreate that "micro-lag" after exiting an app and swiping right away (also works when opening the app drawer and swiping immediately. That first swipe from the first page to the next hiccups every so slightly).

EDIT: Not sure how JB is on a Nexus 7 though.

batting1000
Jul 26, 2012, 04:19 PM
iOS is not necessarily much smoother, but it's more consistently smooth. That's not to say iOS doesn't hiccup either. There's noticeable lag when opening folders sometimes, or when scrolling through certain things.

I would attribute folder lag to the device. My 4S opens folders almost instantly as does my iPad. My iPod touch 4th gen (before I got rid of it) opened it fast, but not as instantly. My iPod touch 2nd gen opened them about a second after tapping it and lagged upon opening.

onthecouchagain
Jul 26, 2012, 04:34 PM
I would attribute folder lag to the device. My 4S opens folders almost instantly as does my iPad. My iPod touch 4th gen (before I got rid of it) opened it fast, but not as instantly. My iPod touch 2nd gen opened them about a second after tapping it and lagged upon opening.

I've seen folder lag on my 4S, and still see folder lag once in a blue moon on my iPad 3rd Gen.

Not to mention, on my 4S, I've also seen missing icons (this is super rare, but it happened once), and had a few freezes (most noticeably when swiping to unlock the phone. It's frozen on my a few times -- again, usually rare -- on the lock screen. Requires a hard reset).

: shrug :

iOS isn't perfect. That's all I'm saying. And JB isn't better than iOS if you want to talk smoothness.

Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 04:36 PM
My iPad 1 does have lag on iOS 5.1.1. Probably due to the old A4 and low ram.

I remember the problems of lag the 3GS users complaint about when iOS 5 was released, and Apple fix it with the following update.

On iOS and Android there's a minimum hardware requirement to experience this smoothness.

JB may have small lag on the nexus due to the poor chip and old GPU.

What I see on those YouTube videos I posted is incredibly fast and no lag whatsoever. Of course, they have quad core and 1GB ram. It just looks amazing. Apps open in less than a second. In my iPad it takes 1.5 or 2 seconds to open any app (5 to 6 if it's ibooks).

Sensamic
Jul 26, 2012, 08:22 PM
I have to say that the feature I was most excited about when I saw the 4.1 keynote was the new voice search. I didn't pay to much attention to protect butter since my SGS3 is already very fast, but now...

After watching more and more videos of CyanogenMod 10 I'm starting to like project butter even more than any other new feature.

It's so fast that it's hard to follow.

The iGentleman
Jul 26, 2012, 11:24 PM
I have to say that the feature I was most excited about when I saw the 4.1 keynote was the new voice search. I didn't pay to much attention to protect butter since my SGS3 is already very fast, but now...

After watching more and more videos of CyanogenMod 10 I'm starting to like project butter even more than any other new feature.

It's so fast that it's hard to follow.

I am running CM10 on my GS3, and just sold my GNex yesterday. The feature I like the most in Jellybean is Google Now. I love how it's useful without me actively using it. It keeps me up to date on the Braves, it tells me when to leave the house to be on time, it makes decent suggestions on places to eat. So far it's been a pleasure to have.

reefoid
Jul 27, 2012, 03:26 AM
I am running CM10 on my GS3, and just sold my GNex yesterday. The feature I like the most in Jellybean is Google Now. I love how it's useful without me actively using it. It keeps me up to date on the Braves, it tells me when to leave the house to be on time, it makes decent suggestions on places to eat. So far it's been a pleasure to have.

Agreed. Been running CM10 on my SGS2 for a day or so and Google Now is pretty nifty. Also loving the new notifications.

Sensamic
Jul 27, 2012, 10:29 AM
I am running CM10 on my GS3, and just sold my GNex yesterday. The feature I like the most in Jellybean is Google Now. I love how it's useful without me actively using it. It keeps me up to date on the Braves, it tells me when to leave the house to be on time, it makes decent suggestions on places to eat. So far it's been a pleasure to have.

I'm probably gonna wait a month or so more until I try to install a rom. Just this Sunday I updated to LFB and I'm very happy.

I hope that in a months time CM10 improves enough to be used as a daily driver (although it seems it already is very stable).

nickchallis92
Jul 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
Haha that guy looks like a used car salesman. I agree android is now smoother but I wouldn't trust that dude lol

haha, i love brandon miniman but you're so right!

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 12:18 PM
I'm probably gonna wait a month or so more until I try to install a rom. Just this Sunday I updated to LFB and I'm very happy.

I hope that in a months time CM10 improves enough to be used as a daily driver (although it seems it already is very stable).

Surprisingly enough it is stable enough to use as a daily driver. I was comfortable enough with it that I sold my GNex 2 days ago. There are a couple very minor bugs here and there, but overall it runs very well and with hardly an issues. Cyanogen stated he also uses it as his daily driver too.

nuckinfutz
Jul 27, 2012, 12:25 PM
"Hey look folks.

A phone a month old is as fast as the Apple phone that is 8 months old!"

Really?


I love how people implore us to "trust them" like their post provides the defacto proof.

News flash

iPhone 4S = 8 months old
iOS 6 = additional speed in the OS (though it's beta right now)

ChazUK
Jul 27, 2012, 12:34 PM
"Hey look folks.

A phone a month old is as fast as the Apple phone that is 8 months old!"

Really?


I love how people implore us to "trust them" like their post provides the defacto proof.

News flash

iPhone 4S = 8 months old
iOS 6 = additional speed in the OS (though it's beta right now)
The Galaxy Nexus is just as old and mine has received a significant performance boost thanks to Jellybean. :)

Sensamic
Jul 27, 2012, 12:51 PM
"Hey look folks.

A phone a month old is as fast as the Apple phone that is 8 months old!"

Really?


I love how people implore us to "trust them" like their post provides the defacto proof.

News flash

iPhone 4S = 8 months old
iOS 6 = additional speed in the OS (though it's beta right now)

No, not as fast as the 4S. Faster. That's the whole point.

Today I went to try the new iPad and opening apps took twice as long as what can be seen on JB. This iPad is the newest tech from Apple, and it still takes add long to open apps as my first iPad. I think it has to do with the animations. Apple should speed up opening apps. On JB it's (almost) instant.

nuckinfutz
Jul 27, 2012, 12:59 PM
No, not as fast as the 4S. Faster. That's the whole point.

Today I went to try the new iPad and opening apps took twice as long as what can be seen on JB. This iPad is the newest tech from Apple, and it still takes add long to open apps as my first iPad. I think it has to do with the animations. Apple should speed up opening apps. On JB it's (almost) instant.

The animations are timed in iOS typically at 400ms. This is the target for developers to launch their apps and make them ready to go. They could shorten the animation and give the perception of the app is ready but there's a wide dynamic range of app launch times.

This isn't a race it's about user experience.

george-brooks
Jul 27, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sure it looks fast, but it also looks ugly and hard to use. It seems like he has to do three times as many gestures to open the same app.

freudling
Jul 27, 2012, 01:17 PM
BS. We've got the latest in Android. Show the data. iOS is faster, scrolling is smoother. Nice try though.

LOL.

Jesus, what's going on with this place.

The iGentleman
Jul 27, 2012, 01:27 PM
Sure it looks fast, but it also looks ugly and hard to use. It seems like he has to do three times as many gestures to open the same app.

How about some specifics. What exactly is hard to use?

Sensamic
Jul 27, 2012, 01:36 PM
BS. We've got the latest in Android. Show the data. iOS is faster, scrolling is smoother. Nice try though.

LOL.

Jesus, what's going on with this place.

I just didn't get anything of what you said...

Anyway, like I previously said, I went today to try the new iPad mainly because I wanted to test if the apps opened faster than my iPad 1 and than JB. We already know it's super smooth so I didn't need to check that. I opened many apps and all of them took almost the same amount of time to open, which I could clearly tell it was more than JB.

I don't see big difference (if at all) between my iPad 1 and the new iPad in opening apps, and I'm sure it's not a hardware thing. You could put a quad core on the iPad and opening apps would take the same time as in the iPad 1. It's just the way iOS works with its animations and all.

Nice try though, but anyone with common sense would know this.

batting1000
Jul 27, 2012, 01:37 PM
I just didn't get anything of what you said...

Anyway, like I previously said, I went today to try the new iPad mainly because I wanted to test if the apps opened faster than my iPad 1 and than JB. We already know it's super smooth so I didn't need to check that. I opened many apps and all of them took almost the same amount of time to open, which I could clearly tell it was more than JB.

I don't see big difference (if at all) between my iPad 1 and the new iPad in opening apps, and I'm sure it's not a hardware thing. You could put a quad core on the iPad and opening apps would take the same time as in the iPad 1. It's just the way iOS works with its animations and all.

Nice try though, but anyone with common sense would know this.

Yes, but a quad-core iPad would load the data in the app faster than the iPad 1 would, even know the app took the same time to launch on both.

LIVEFRMNYC
Jul 27, 2012, 05:31 PM
FakeClockUp makes my iP4 faster than all Android phones combined. :p