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MacRumors
Jul 26, 2012, 05:22 PM
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As we noted (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/samsung-v-apple-trial-documents-reveal-early-iphone-and-ipad-prototypes/), The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3190849/court-documents-reveal-multiple-ipad-iphone-prototypes-kickstand) has come across a number of photos of iPhone prototypes in court documents related to Apple's lawsuit with Samsung. One of the early prototype images seemed particularly familiar to us.

This two-tone design with a central aluminum backing looks like an early version of the rumored next-generation iPhone:

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/iphoneprototype.jpg

(http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/iphoneproto.jpg)
On the right is a prototype iPhone design posted (http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3191793/apple-iphone-prototype-pictures#3597776) by the Verge. The image on the left is a rendering of the next generation iPhone by Blackpool Creative (http://www.blackpoolcreative.com). The rendering was based (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/high-resolution-iphone-5-renderings-based-on-leaked-parts/) on leaked (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/29/more-photos-from-claimed-next-generation-iphone-include-front-panel-with-centered-facetime-camera/) parts of the upcoming iPhone. The parts were also shown on video here:

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Similar parts have been circulating for a couple of months now. One early report (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/03/more-claims-of-taller-thinner-next-generation-iphone-with-4-inch-screen-and-new-dock-connector/) described it as such: According to our source, Apple will make one major change to the rear casing, adding a metal panel to the central back of the new iPhone. This panel will be flat, not curved, and metal, not ceramic.It seems possible that the new iPhone has evolved from some of the early Apple prototyping of possible designs.

Article Link: Early iPhone Prototype Resembles Latest iPhone 5 Part Leaks (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/early-iphone-prototype-resembles-latest-iphone-5-part-leaks/)



boshii
Jul 26, 2012, 05:23 PM
The leaked iPhone 5 parts definitely look better though.

Helixc0de
Jul 26, 2012, 05:23 PM
Looks nice…I guess. Apple needs to do better.

srxtr
Jul 26, 2012, 05:25 PM
My credit card's ready

MattDell
Jul 26, 2012, 05:26 PM
Looks nice…I guess. Apple needs to do better.
this.
My credit card's ready
but sadly this.


I'm just not ready to switch to Android, no matter how lackluster the next iPhone is turning out to be.

SPNarwhal
Jul 26, 2012, 05:28 PM
"No headphone port, but where is it?!"

MacFather
Jul 26, 2012, 05:29 PM
What happened with "teardrop" design ?

wickerman1893
Jul 26, 2012, 05:30 PM
The design is very sleek. However, I'm looking at screen size and power under the hood.

LostSoul80
Jul 26, 2012, 05:30 PM
My credit card's ready

this.

but sadly this.


I'm just not ready to switch to Android, no matter how lackluster the next iPhone is turning out to be.

Pathetic.

Howard Ellacott
Jul 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
Maybe that's a prototype iPhone 4 that Apple's stuck put onto the rumour mill to build suspense, and the real thing is actually totally different and much better!! That would be brilliant.

MattDell
Jul 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
What happened with "teardrop" design ?

soooooo 2008...

tomegun
Jul 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
Yeah, I think it looks sleek...as in sleek to look at, but still uncomfortable to hold in your hand when you are...making a call.

MattDell
Jul 26, 2012, 05:32 PM
Pathetic.

I'm not denying it.

ThatsMeRight
Jul 26, 2012, 05:32 PM
I like the "iPhone 5" renders much more than the actual leak you see in the video. While I still believe it's not a big design change, I'm beginning to like the "iPhone 5" design more and more.

east85
Jul 26, 2012, 05:37 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

Radio
Jul 26, 2012, 05:39 PM
Anyone notice macrumors just regurgitating the same thing over and over again ?

Every time a publication says something unverifiable it's a headline.

This is going to be a painful few months til launch day.

Asclepio
Jul 26, 2012, 05:41 PM
it hurts

John.B
Jul 26, 2012, 05:42 PM
Article Link: Early iPhone Prototype Resembles Latest iPhone 5 Part Leaks (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/early-iphone-prototype-resembles-latest-iphone-5-part-leaks/)

So Apple has been copying...
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themselves! :eek: Dun dun DUN!!!!1!!11!!!1eleven!!!1!!

(I crack myself up!)

Dobiewonkanobie
Jul 26, 2012, 05:43 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

It's not multicolored, it's a material change. And who says it's not without a purpose? We just don't know yet. Just sayin.

CubusX
Jul 26, 2012, 05:43 PM
The iPhone 4 is just so tired looking anymore and the interface needs an update, badly. I went to the Razor Maxx but even that was lackluster in my tastes. Sure, it was fast and the LTE was amazing but I absolutely hate Motoblur (or whatever it is called). If all Apple did was extend the length and keep the same basic design for the next iPhone, I'm going to Android when the HTC Incridble 4G is released.

Anther thing is that Android has had speech to text/search and turn by turn GPS since the original Dorid. Apple is way behind and the iPhone 4 won't even get those features even though it is more than capable to handle it. Talk all you want but iOS is just as fragmented as Android.

MultiMediaWill
Jul 26, 2012, 05:43 PM
Ugly as F.

pgiguere1
Jul 26, 2012, 05:44 PM
And this one looks like the iPhone 4:

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4806569/sony_inspired_iphone_prototypes19_1020_gallery_post.jpg

henrystar
Jul 26, 2012, 05:45 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

I have an original iPhone, and I still have to check every time which end is which when I want to put it in its power cradle. Sheesh! Make it VISIBLE guys!

gorskiegangsta
Jul 26, 2012, 05:47 PM
So cool, seeing all these product concepts and iterations we wouldn't be able to see otherwise. :)

I guess fierce patent litigation also has positive side effects :p

Asclepio
Jul 26, 2012, 05:49 PM
And this one looks like the iPhone 4:

Image (http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4806569/sony_inspired_iphone_prototypes19_1020_gallery_post.jpg)

what is this? a gameboy?

AngerDanger
Jul 26, 2012, 05:51 PM
Introducing Apple's latest, groundbreaking phone, the ClunkPhone Plus.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/416/iphoneprototype.jpg

mabaker
Jul 26, 2012, 05:54 PM
The design looks classy as hell.

theOtherGeoff
Jul 26, 2012, 05:55 PM
Maybe that's a prototype iPhone 4 that Apple's stuck put onto the rumour mill to build suspense

or to direct the 'leak police' to silence the infidels.

cteselle
Jul 26, 2012, 05:55 PM
I hope the two tone rear doesn't see the light of day. It's ugly, and just doesn't follow Apple's design philosophy. :confused:

pgiguere1
Jul 26, 2012, 06:04 PM
what is this? a gameboy?

I think the things at the bottom are supposed to be sensors. One of them is red in the color image, so I guess it's an IR sensor. Two of the 4 others are probably the proximity sensor and ambient light sensor. The little hole is probably the mic. I have no idea what the 2 other sensors could be though, especially the elongated one.

The design was pretty advanced for 2006, you can see an external antenna and LED flash that only appeared in 2010 with the iPhone 4.

cwwilson
Jul 26, 2012, 06:06 PM
It's ugly, and just doesn't follow Apple's design philosophy. :confused:

The exact same quote was said about the 4 when it was first leaked. Never put anything past Apple.

Heston
Jul 26, 2012, 06:06 PM
Meh....

Drew n macs
Jul 26, 2012, 06:08 PM
Maybe the multicolor is for the antenna (no antenna gate) or its needed for NFC signal?

Just a thought... At this point its all speculation.

Technarchy
Jul 26, 2012, 06:10 PM
This

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4808378/2012-07-26VERGE-27_gallery_post.jpg

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http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4808495/2012-07-26VERGE-9_gallery_post.jpg

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http://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/2773/as-images.apple.com/is/image/AppleInc/step0-iphone4s-gallery-image4?wid=488&hei=531&fmt=png-alpha&qlt=95

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http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/iphone-5-black-front-side-back.jpg

normwood
Jul 26, 2012, 06:21 PM
I actually prefer the rounded back version. I like the feel of my iPhone 3G sooooo much more than the brick that my iPhone 4 was and my iPhone 4s is.

Just my $0.02.

jayducharme
Jul 26, 2012, 06:22 PM
* sigh * I'm just not liking it (especially the "Zune" version). The contrast on the back is so stark, but is probably necessary for the antennae. If the center of the back really is metal, how do they make the all-white version? I'll buy it anyway most likely, and cover it up with a case. And I'll feel more secure that it's not entirely glass. But the design of the version 3 is still my favorite.

Gjwilly
Jul 26, 2012, 06:24 PM
No signs of any SIM card slots.
Were these all originally CDMA or was Apple going to have panels that actually opened?

THE JUICEMAN
Jul 26, 2012, 06:25 PM
I actually prefer the rounded back version. I like the feel of my iPhone 3G sooooo much more than the brick that my iPhone 4 was and my iPhone 4s is.

Just my $0.02.

This ^^^^^

JayLenochiniMac
Jul 26, 2012, 06:28 PM
I actually prefer the rounded back version. I like the feel of my iPhone 3G sooooo much more than the brick that my iPhone 4 was and my iPhone 4s is.

Just my $0.02.

Yes, the rounded back of the 3G/3GS definitely felt better in the hand; however, it felt cheap with plastic and poor fit and finish. Can't have it both ways, unless they figure out something new.

lordofthereef
Jul 26, 2012, 06:31 PM
That new one looks a lot like a Lumia, which looks a lot like an ipod nano of yesteryear.

Cr0nus
Jul 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
This
http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/iphone-5-black-front-side-back.jpg

I would only consider buying it if it looked like this. the silver color metal with the black bars on top and bottom just doesn't look good.

Millah
Jul 26, 2012, 06:33 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

Because Apple was so known for their use of single uniform colors in all their previous aqua-era designs. Yet somehow they were still called simplistic designs. Those stripes in the candy iMacs were completely one toned, right?

Adding style to a simple design does not add any complexity. I honestly love the new design and think it looks more interesting than if it were just a flat color. Not to mention, the build quality looks even a step above the 4S, which is already top notch.

But maybe people should hold off judgement until we've actually seen the final product fully assembled. It's pretty hard to get a grasp on the whole thing when you only look at a single part that is not even confirmed yet.

Menopause
Jul 26, 2012, 06:36 PM
That first picture is absolutely droolworthy!

trustme
Jul 26, 2012, 06:39 PM
I have an original iPhone, and I still have to check every time which end is which when I want to put it in its power cradle. Sheesh! Make it VISIBLE guys!

Maybe you should get your eyes checked.

boy-better-know
Jul 26, 2012, 06:41 PM
The supposed design of the iPhone 5 still doesn't sit easy with me, though each time I look at it I like it a little bit more.
If the renders are anything to go by the black one looks a hell of a lot nicer. Either way I shall be buying it.

dra
Jul 26, 2012, 06:58 PM
just take my money now and i will grab the 5 or 6 or new iphone at the store :) in sept

bossxii
Jul 26, 2012, 07:13 PM
So the taller iPhone 4S from what I have seen and heard from a fairly reliable source showed me these, and says they are legit.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55849041@N07/7653337976/in/photostream

The above being the new charging port and headphone jack assembly, which looks correct based on the logic board connector and how the cable lays out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55849041@N07/7653337914/in/photostream

Above showing the power and volume cable, again looks correct in terms of connections and buttons.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55849041@N07/7653336526/in/photostream

This one has me concerned if legit due to the fact there is no LCD attached to is as the 4 and 4S. The difficulty of repairing glass only and keeping a dust and fingerprint free area between the LCD and glass is difficult. Not to mention if the iPhone 5 is thinner, most likely this becomes an adhesive connection vs the mechanical screws/tabs in the iPhone 4/4S. End result if the back midframe and back are damaged it becomes much more expensive to fix.

So how did I come by these... well I work in the parts industry and was sent these form a contact in China who I trust to be reliable. He had sent iPhone 4 midframes and screens to me prior to the 4's launch and they were correct but as that was the first time dealing with him I didn't post anything. I'm now thinking he has a legit source and the pics are real. Then again I hope I'm wrong as I would rather see a totally different design, but that's just me.

jasonph
Jul 26, 2012, 07:15 PM
this.

but sadly this.


I'm just not ready to switch to Android, no matter how lackluster the next iPhone is turning out to be.

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I was forced to try Android ICS on a Samsung S2 for about 3 weeks, and I'm sorry I really tried, but I wanted to hurl the phone against the wall. So I managed to get rid instead. The design of every stock app was poor and you had to hunt around for something better on the Play store. IMHO the Play store is missing some key apps I use and is filled with a lot more (5 star rated) garbage than the App store. Obviously folks there are easily pleased. I had to constantly balance battery usage, remove widgets and install an antivirus and a battery management app just to get 1.5 days out of the phone. My iphone 4S easily went 2.5 days no problem. Too many things I just didn't like.

I ended up with an ip4. Even though its slower than my old 4S and SG2 I'm much happier now I'm back on iOS. I missed a lot of the little things that Apple designed so well and then patented! :)

I would love an iP5 (or 6th gen, or whatever its called) and I would have bought one in a second, but I will just be looking in the store window this time round. :(

DakotaGuy
Jul 26, 2012, 07:20 PM
This is not the new iPhone...
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4808378/2012-07-26VERGE-27_gallery_post.jpg

It's a new iPod Mini from the back...

http://topicpoint.com/ipod_mini_2g_review/ipod_mini_2g_b.jpg

arashamedani
Jul 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
I hope the two tone rear doesn't see the light of day. It's ugly, and just doesn't follow Apple's design philosophy. :confused:

two tone. http://f.cl.ly/items/1v3y2X1A0X3t3N0u1A0F/design_multitouch.jpg

SgtPepper12
Jul 26, 2012, 07:30 PM
Because Apple was so known for their use of single uniform colors in all their previous aqua-era designs. Yet somehow they were still called simplistic designs. Those stripes in the candy iMacs were completely one toned, right?

Adding style to a simple design does not add any complexity. I honestly love the new design and think it looks more interesting than if it were just a flat color. Not to mention, the build quality looks even a step above the 4S, which is already top notch.

But maybe people should hold off judgement until we've actually seen the final product fully assembled. It's pretty hard to get a grasp on the whole thing when you only look at a single part that is not even confirmed yet.
Gutes Design ist so wenig Design wie möglich.
The Two-Tone look is not added because it should look neat or "stylish". It's added because there are technical difficulties regarding reception if the back is made of metal (see iPad 3G back). So obviously Apple Designers are facing the choice between plastic, metal and glass. Plastic has good reception and is durable, but feels cheap. Metal is durable, feels nice but has bad reception. Glass has good reception, feels nice, but is not very durable.
Making glass more durable is not very easy to do; either you make it thicker (generally not wanted) or you change it's chemistry. Apparently Apple was not satisfied with progresses there.
Making plastic feel nicer is also impossible. Just the knowledge that it is plastic makes it feel cheap.
Improving the reception of metal is like asking to change the laws of electrodynamics, so no.
Apple thought the best of all these options is combining plastic and metal in hope that the advantages combine nicely and NOT because it looks cool and adds something interesting to the design. I don't think Jony Ive would ever do something like that. Every detail on his designs has to serve a function. I don't know about the old iMacs though, I've never used them, so no idea why they chose to build them like that.

mrtune
Jul 26, 2012, 07:31 PM
Everyone complaining about two-tone and claims Apple would never do it needs to go look at pics of the back of the original iPhone.

OllyW
Jul 26, 2012, 07:31 PM
two tone. http://f.cl.ly/items/1v3y2X1A0X3t3N0u1A0F/design_multitouch.jpg

More two tone...

http://marianneschultz.com/wp-content/uploads/iphone-2G.jpg

Textureboy
Jul 26, 2012, 07:31 PM
Even though design is lacking, nothing :eek: . If it has amazing battery life I'm sold.

Michael Jordan
Jul 26, 2012, 07:36 PM
Get rid of that home button, Apple.

zzLZHzz
Jul 26, 2012, 07:44 PM
perhaps when they are creating the original iphone, they already had the design plan for the next few iphone.

chagla
Jul 26, 2012, 07:47 PM
That new one looks a lot like a Lumia, which looks a lot like an ipod nano of yesteryear.

http://swipe.nokia.com/

http://swipe.nokia.com/img/features/feat-bundle2.jpg

I think Lumia's came way after Nokia N9 which is a much superior device.

dontwalkhand
Jul 26, 2012, 07:47 PM
If it has a larger screen and they fix that god damned auto correct issue in iOS (changing the word so to do, changing my girlfriend's name from Cassie to Lassie, etc), I will buy the new iPhone.

lordofthereef
Jul 26, 2012, 07:55 PM
I think Lumia's came way after Nokia N9 which is a much superior device.

The device feels on par. The OS does not. Symbian > WP7 right now. Can't speak for WP8. Unfortunately, the Lumia will never see that update. Pretty disappointing.

boshii
Jul 26, 2012, 08:06 PM
they fix that god damned auto correct issue in iOS (changing the word so to do, changing my girlfriend's name from Cassie to Lassie, etc), I will buy the new iPhone.

FYI: You can fix that on your own (http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-fix-iphone-dictionary-2012-5?op=1)

HalfBlazed
Jul 26, 2012, 08:08 PM
If thats the real deal I am happy that they aren't making the phone much bigger than before, only the screen.

One of the major reasons I like the current iPhone design is that its small and sleek. I hate those massive Android phones that are currently on the market.

PAGUTME
Jul 26, 2012, 08:12 PM
saw it like 3 months ago :mad: not cool! i want NEW INFOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

elgrecomac
Jul 26, 2012, 08:23 PM
With all the leaks on the iphone 5, isn't anyone paying attention to the new boss's directive about security. I'm at the point where I am expecting Gizmodo or someone else to bag another prototype and show it to the world.

gadget123
Jul 26, 2012, 08:26 PM
I don't get why they want a new sheet of plastic on the back to make it look metal.

The Iphone 5 should be looking to be slimmer than the Iphone 4S especially if it's going with a larger screen.

If these mocks are close or real then we will end up with a larger Iphone 4S.

faroZ06
Jul 26, 2012, 08:39 PM
The silver and black design looks bad. I can't imagine silver and white looking any better.

Two-tone looks good if they do it right, but it just looks bad in these images.

SirLance99
Jul 26, 2012, 08:41 PM
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I was forced to try Android ICS on a Samsung S2 for about 3 weeks, and I'm sorry I really tried, but I wanted to hurl the phone against the wall. So I managed to get rid instead. The design of every stock app was poor and you had to hunt around for something better on the Play store. IMHO the Play store is missing some key apps I use and is filled with a lot more (5 star rated) garbage than the App store. Obviously folks there are easily pleased. I had to constantly balance battery usage, remove widgets and install an antivirus and a battery management app just to get 1.5 days out of the phone. My iphone 4S easily went 2.5 days no problem. Too many things I just didn't like.

I ended up with an ip4. Even though its slower than my old 4S and SG2 I'm much happier now I'm back on iOS. I missed a lot of the little things that Apple designed so well and then patented! :)

I would love an iP5 (or 6th gen, or whatever its called) and I would have bought one in a second, but I will just be looking in the store window this time round. :(

2.5 days? How? There is no way you actually used your phone for real use. It's impossible to get that amount of use if you live in the real world. I get 8 hours max.

faroZ06
Jul 26, 2012, 08:50 PM
I would only consider buying it if it looked like this. the silver color metal with the black bars on top and bottom just doesn't look good.

Agreed.

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2.5 days? How? There is no way you actually used your phone for real use. It's impossible to get that amount of use if you live in the real world. I get 8 hours max.

Same. But my friend's Nexus always seems to be dead.

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You know, I actually don't care how it looks. I'm putting a case on it regardless.

Dustman
Jul 26, 2012, 08:53 PM
Agreed.

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Same. But my friend's Nexus always seems to be dead.

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You know, I actually don't care how it looks. I'm putting a case on it regardless.

The nexus has to power a screen thats over an inch larger than the iPhones'. 4.65 vs 3.5, so that's somewhat understandable.

chagla
Jul 26, 2012, 09:02 PM
Quote
I was forced to try Android ICS on a Samsung S2 for about 3 weeks, and I'm sorry I really tried, but I wanted to hurl the phone against the wall. So I managed to get rid instead. The design of every stock app was poor and you had to hunt around for something better on the Play store. IMHO the Play store is missing some key apps I use and is filled with a lot more (5 star rated) garbage than the App store. Obviously folks there are easily pleased. I had to constantly balance battery usage, remove widgets and install an antivirus and a battery management app just to get 1.5 days out of the phone. My iphone 4S easily went 2.5 days no problem. Too many things I just didn't like.

I ended up with an ip4. Even though its slower than my old 4S and SG2 I'm much happier now I'm back on iOS. I missed a lot of the little things that Apple designed so well and then patented! :)

I would love an iP5 (or 6th gen, or whatever its called) and I would have bought one in a second, but I will just be looking in the store window this time round. :(

hi there, who was your carrier? i mean what brand is your s2? at&t? sprint? or tmobile?

fidelisimo
Jul 26, 2012, 09:11 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

I agree.... the black/grey and white/siver ensemble of leaked back panels are a bit too much. They teeter perilously close to the garishly trendy "color blocking". Hope they have a solid black option. Have always liked Apple's elegant and understated simplicity ... speaking of which what's up with those awful celebrity iPhone/Siri commercials... Apple should stick to portraying "real" people using their devices while doing "real" things.

faroZ06
Jul 26, 2012, 09:13 PM
The nexus has to power a screen thats over an inch larger than the iPhones'. 4.65 vs 3.5, so that's somewhat understandable.

Yeah. I think the battery is slightly weaker too. This is a reason why I don't really want a bigger iPhone.

sotorious
Jul 26, 2012, 09:16 PM
Might be heading back to android this generation around. come back for 5s possibly.

cclloyd
Jul 26, 2012, 09:18 PM
Is it just me, or is Apple bringing up old rejected by Jobs ideas ever since he died?

boshii
Jul 26, 2012, 09:23 PM
Is it just me, or is Apple bringing up old rejected by Jobs ideas ever since he died?

This has nothing to do with apple bringing up anything.

These pics were taken from court filings by The Verge.

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I agree.... the black/grey and white/siver ensemble of leaked back panels are a bit too much. They teeter perilously close to the garishly trendy "color blocking". Hope they have a solid black option. Have always liked Apple's elegant and understated simplicity ... speaking of which what's up with those awful celebrity iPhone/Siri commercials... Apple should stick to portraying "real" people using their devices while doing "real" things.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/04/27/on-apples-new-tv-spots/

Rocketman
Jul 26, 2012, 09:23 PM
Finally . . . common sense re-arrives. Reception matters.

faroZ06
Jul 26, 2012, 09:38 PM
Might be heading back to android this generation around. come back for 5s possibly.

Why don't you just stay on one platform?

sotorious
Jul 26, 2012, 09:41 PM
Why don't you just stay on one platform?

I like what both parties have to offer, been with android since its release. Then switched to iphone 4 last april, gettin bored of this now, really liking jelly bean, till i get bored of android again i come back.

faroZ06
Jul 26, 2012, 09:57 PM
I like what both parties have to offer, been with android since its release. Then switched to iphone 4 last april, gettin bored of this now, really liking jelly bean, till i get bored of android again i come back.

Dual-boot iOS and Android :D?

sotorious
Jul 26, 2012, 09:59 PM
Dual-boot iOS and Android :D?

haha thought about a phone that ran both platforms that would be sweeet.

Indy21
Jul 26, 2012, 09:59 PM
Anyone notice macrumors just regurgitating the same thing over and over again ?

Every time a publication says something unverifiable it's a headline.

This is going to be a painful few months til launch day.

Dunno about MacRumors but I HAVE noticed it with other sites. There have been several reports about the Sept 21 release date today...isn't that like, 3 day old news or something? These folks need to keep up!

They try and bring it up again as if they have NEW information but no, it's not new information, it's just the same crap we read the other day except now YOU have the story and it's supposed to be "breaking news". Give it a rest already, do they really not have anything else to write about?

Rogifan
Jul 26, 2012, 10:01 PM
The Two-Tone look is not added because it should look neat or "stylish". It's added because there are technical difficulties regarding reception if the back is made of metal (see iPad 3G back). So obviously Apple Designers are facing the choice between plastic, metal and glass. Plastic has good reception and is durable, but feels cheap. Metal is durable, feels nice but has bad reception. Glass has good reception, feels nice, but is not very durable.
Making glass more durable is not very easy to do; either you make it thicker (generally not wanted) or you change it's chemistry. Apparently Apple was not satisfied with progresses there.
Making plastic feel nicer is also impossible. Just the knowledge that it is plastic makes it feel cheap.
Improving the reception of metal is like asking to change the laws of electrodynamics, so no.
Apple thought the best of all these options is combining plastic and metal in hope that the advantages combine nicely and NOT because it looks cool and adds something interesting to the design. I don't think Jony Ive would ever do something like that. Every detail on his designs has to serve a function. I don't know about the old iMacs though, I've never used them, so no idea why they chose to build them like that.
I just had to re-quote this because it's the best explanation I've read yet on why we might see a two toned back on the new iPhone.

watchthisspace
Jul 26, 2012, 10:02 PM
This two tone look isn't nice at all. I'd be okay with the black bar at the bottom like the first generation iPhone.

brock2621
Jul 26, 2012, 10:09 PM
Pathetic.

Judgemental.

Millah
Jul 26, 2012, 10:22 PM
The Two-Tone look is not added because it should look neat or "stylish". It's added because there are technical difficulties regarding reception if the back is made of metal (see iPad 3G back). So obviously Apple Designers are facing the choice between plastic, metal and glass. Plastic has good reception and is durable, but feels cheap. Metal is durable, feels nice but has bad reception. Glass has good reception, feels nice, but is not very durable.
Making glass more durable is not very easy to do; either you make it thicker (generally not wanted) or you change it's chemistry. Apparently Apple was not satisfied with progresses there.
Making plastic feel nicer is also impossible. Just the knowledge that it is plastic makes it feel cheap.
Improving the reception of metal is like asking to change the laws of electrodynamics, so no.
Apple thought the best of all these options is combining plastic and metal in hope that the advantages combine nicely and NOT because it looks cool and adds something interesting to the design. I don't think Jony Ive would ever do something like that. Every detail on his designs has to serve a function. I don't know about the old iMacs though, I've never used them, so no idea why they chose to build them like that.

Yes, I understand where you're coming from. I even understand the quote from dieter rams. But you seem to be forgetting Dieter Rams other principle for good design, "good design is aesthetic design"

Apple has always added style to their designs. That's what made them stand out, unique. If Apple designed STRICTLY in the vein of functional design, their products wouldn't have survived in the late 90s.

But your last sentence just answers my question. You haven't been following Apple design for too long. If you have been, then you'd know exactly where I'm coming from. The stripes on the iMac served no functional purpose whatsoever. The translucent plastic served no functional purpose. The candy colors, no purpose. The white color choice, no purpose. These were all style and aesthetic design decisions, not functional.

You can't just pick out one of Dieter Rams principles and leave out the rest. The thing that Apple has always excelled at was applying incredible aesthetic design and style to a functional design. The home button is a great example. That square icon on the button, that's an aesthetic design applied to a functional design. The square is much more iconic than if the button said "menu" like in the prototypes. That IS style.

So this two toned plastic/metal backing may serve some realistic functional purpose, but at the same time they applied aesthetic design to make it look more beautiful. We have no idea yet. All I gotta say is it looks gorgeous.

sulpfiction
Jul 26, 2012, 10:32 PM
Pathetic.

Pathetic, how and why? I can't stand people who post such negative ***** every time someone posts their opinion. They don't like the new rumored design all that much, but are still admitting that they'll most likely buy it anyway. Why is that pathetic? smh. Stop being a d!€k.

sulpfiction
Jul 26, 2012, 10:43 PM
Yes, the rounded back of the 3G/3GS definitely felt better in the hand; however, it felt cheap with plastic and poor fit and finish. Can't have it both ways, unless they figure out something new.

The original iPhone was PERFECT to hold, the aluminum was rugged as hell, and it was weighted and balanced perfectly. I would love the next iPhone to have a similar shape. We shall see. I can't wait until the announce.

kiljoy616
Jul 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Simplicity, it's rolling in a grave somewhere dead. I don't understand the allure of these multi-color designs. Just give us a solid color on the backplate, please.

I know what you mean, more metal to scratch up. More thinness to forget and sit on. :rolleyes:

gto55
Jul 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
:eek::eek::eek:

http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-04.jpg
http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-011.jpg

barkomatic
Jul 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Looks nice…I guess. Apple needs to do better.

Apple did do better. These are early unreleased designs.

kiljoy616
Jul 26, 2012, 10:52 PM
I just had to re-quote this because it's the best explanation I've read yet on why we might see a two toned back on the new iPhone.

I thought that was the whole idea of gorilla glass 2, from video that is some impressive strong glass. :cool:

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:eek::eek::eek:

Image (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-04.jpg)
Image (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-011.jpg)

Now that would be a drool design of a new iPhone :D

Karma*Police
Jul 26, 2012, 10:53 PM
The iPhone 4 is just so tired looking anymore and the interface needs an update, badly. I went to the Razor Maxx but even that was lackluster in my tastes. Sure, it was fast and the LTE was amazing but I absolutely hate Motoblur (or whatever it is called). If all Apple did was extend the length and keep the same basic design for the next iPhone, I'm going to Android when the HTC Incridble 4G is released.

Anther thing is that Android has had speech to text/search and turn by turn GPS since the original Dorid. Apple is way behind and the iPhone 4 won't even get those features even though it is more than capable to handle it. Talk all you want but iOS is just as fragmented as Android.

I know I shouldn't, but...

1) iOS doesn't need a makeover every year because Apple nailed the UI from the beginning. Some people confuse Google's yearly makeover with rapid innovation, when in fact, it's attributed to Android's crude beginnings and Google's lack of conviction in its own UI. Now that it's reached a certain level of polish, I would expect Android's yearly releases to be "boring" like iOS.

2) Features does not equal a great UX. In typical Google fashion, they threw a bunch of half-baked features into Android early on, but that doesn't mean they were all good. Copy & paste was an afterthought; creation of folders was modeled after desktop computers until Apple showed them a better way. Heck, the first Android phone even came with a bulit-in trackball! I can tell you about all the features that iOS had first and still has that Android lacks, but again, that's not what defines a great UX.

3) Fragmentation with platforms is inevitable as they mature. But to suggest that iOS and Android are somehow even remotely similar in that regard is just being blind and ignorant.

kiljoy616
Jul 26, 2012, 10:55 PM
Pathetic, how and why? I can't stand people who post such negative ***** every time someone posts their opinion. They don't like the new rumored design all that much, but are still admitting that they'll most likely buy it anyway. Why is that pathetic? smh. Stop being a d!€k.

Reason I hate the new only up button. I always looked at the down button as displeasure without writing a nastygram to the trolls. :rolleyes:

gto55
Jul 26, 2012, 10:56 PM
More about this concept:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/article-iphone-6th-generation-104377889.html
http://www.fredzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/iphone-6-5.jpg
http://www.fredzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/iphone-6-7.jpg

Rogifan
Jul 26, 2012, 11:02 PM
More about this concept:
Not sure what this has to do with the original thread topic. :confused:

JCL
Jul 26, 2012, 11:10 PM
I don't get this obsession with how thin products are. It's purely marketing material, a stat for some inner page on Apple.com.

The current iPhone 4/4s design is the best looking phone on the market (aside from the whole antenna issue) and is plenty thin. If these phones keep getting wider/taller and thinner they will be impossible to hold.

As for the rumored next iPhone design... I like the softer color on the back but hate the contrast of the two glass/plastic pieces. If metal has issues with reception they shouldn't use it. The headphone jack on the bottom is a terrible idea (hold your phone with your left hand and picture having a jack on the bottom).

Question: Why not make the entire back metal but use the entire back as the antenna?


RIP: teardrop dream


P.S. it's funny how many iSheeps you can see in this post. Just look at people rationalizing the 3 piece back. Will I buy one? HELL YES lol.

Dionte
Jul 26, 2012, 11:11 PM
this.

but sadly this.


I'm just not ready to switch to Android, no matter how lackluster the next iPhone is turning out to be.

I'm with you.

chr1s60
Jul 26, 2012, 11:12 PM
This looks 1,000x better than the previous leaked parts!

samh4life
Jul 26, 2012, 11:17 PM
i'm sick of the media calling it the iphone 5.... the 5th generation phone was the iphone 4S. The next one will either be called the iphone 6 or iPhone 4G (due to the addition of an LTE chip) or something other than iphone 5. The media should really do their homework when it comes to products and possible names....

However, I do plan on buying whatever the new device is going to be called. Not that i'm some sorta fanboy whatever you want to call it but rather because i love the customer support quality apple normally has (except the whole ML scandal).

kalsta
Jul 26, 2012, 11:25 PM
Anyone notice macrumors just regurgitating the same thing over and over again ?

Every time a publication says something unverifiable it's a headline.

This is going to be a painful few months til launch day.

Wha…?! This has to be one of the most interesting stories all year. It shows us early prototype designs we wouldn't normally get to see, which is fascinating. To compare them with the rumoured upcoming design is entirely appropriate for a site about Apple rumours! I honestly just think some of you are at the wrong site.

I have an original iPhone, and I still have to check every time which end is which when I want to put it in its power cradle. Sheesh! Make it VISIBLE guys!

You sure it's the original iPhone you have? It's a little hard to miss which end is which with that one…

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Original_iPhone_rear.jpg/170px-Original_iPhone_rear.jpg

i'm sick of the media calling it the iphone 5....

Oh no, please not that again…

AbSoluTc
Jul 26, 2012, 11:30 PM
i'm sick of the media calling it the iphone 5.... the 5th generation phone was the iphone 4S. The next one will either be called the iphone 6 or iPhone 4G (due to the addition of an LTE chip) or something other than iphone 5. The media should really do their homework when it comes to products and possible names....

However, I do plan on buying whatever the new device is going to be called. Not that i'm some sorta fanboy whatever you want to call it but rather because i love the customer support quality apple normally has (except the whole ML scandal).

I think your math is off.

iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5

Yup, it's right. It's the naming convention. Not the generation name they are referring to. The first iPhone didn't have a "number" in it's name. This would be Apple's fault. I think they might start calling it the "iPhone" just like the new "iPad" and leaving off the numeric convention.

Blacknight10s
Jul 26, 2012, 11:39 PM
anyone who thinks this will be remotely close to what the new iphone will look like is crazy. i've been with apple products since day 1 and a shareholder since 2003 and tell me, when has there ever been this many leaks of a new product. these have to be old prototypes.. I'm not saying they won't include some of the new features like the 9 pin connector shown, which may be plausible, but come on its been a number of years since a redesign and they're not just going to change the length and not the width, they are going big. I'm expecting great things and looking for a total redesign with a teardrop shape again hopefully with both width and length increased a bit. Insane to think that apple would make the iphone 5 look so much like the 4/4s bc that's not what Jony Ive does. He makes the impossible a reality.

spacepower7
Jul 26, 2012, 11:46 PM
Why can't I see thisnyoutube video on my iPad?

samh4life
Jul 26, 2012, 11:59 PM
I think they might start calling it the "iPhone" just like the new "iPad" and leaving off the numeric convention.

I hope they don't do that.

But my math is right and it's logical as well if they were to still use the numerical system/with the generation.

It doesn't really matter though in the long run, Apple will spawn a new product and millions will buy it just for the Apple logo.

I just have little pet peeves lol...

snowcrash
Jul 27, 2012, 12:16 AM
I hope they don't do that.

But my math is right and it's logical as well if they were to still use the numerical system/with the generation.

It doesn't really matter though in the long run, Apple will spawn a new product and millions will buy it just for the Apple logo.

I just have little pet peeves lol...

No one other then tech geeks like us and people who visit forums remotely care about generation number coinciding with the iPhone and/or OS or not. If they were to do something as stupid as call it the iPhone 6 a (now follow along here) "majority" of the public will be asking "what happened to the iPhone 5?!? All this would do will cause people to be confused. Something Apple wouldn't want. It will either be "the new iPhone" or "the iPhone5" it will not be 6. Ya all said the same thing about the 4S. It's iOS5 the fifth generation it will not be called iPhone 4S. How quickly we forget don't we. Seriously anyone who knows anything about marketing and branding will tell you going from iPhone 4S to iPhone 6 makes no sense what-so-ever. Who knows but i'd be less be surprised if they just didn't call it the iPhone 4S-XL then if they called it the iPhone 6.

faroZ06
Jul 27, 2012, 12:26 AM
Does anyone know if the new dock connector will have any new features in it? Or is it just different so we have to buy adapters?

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i'm sick of the media calling it the iphone 5.... the 5th generation phone was the iphone 4S. The next one will either be called the iphone 6 or iPhone 4G (due to the addition of an LTE chip) or something other than iphone 5. The media should really do their homework when it comes to products and possible names....

However, I do plan on buying whatever the new device is going to be called. Not that i'm some sorta fanboy whatever you want to call it but rather because i love the customer support quality apple normally has (except the whole ML scandal).

The iPhone already has 4G, you know. Not all 4G is LTE. HSPA+ is considered 4G, and only AT&T (the best service provider in my area) offers it on the iPhone.

It's going to be the iPhone 5. Their naming convention does not go by the generation number. Otherwise, "4S" would not fit, and there would be awkward even numbers: iPhone 4, 4S, 6, 6S, 8, 8S, etc.

I think the numbers make it more sellable because the newer ones seem newer. If they numbered the iMacs, though, it would just be embarrassing because it would constantly remind people of how Apple only updates them once in a blue moon. According to a survey, more than half of iPhone 4 owners thought that their phone had 4G just because of the "4", and this was before HSPA+ was on the iPhone.

Blacknight10s
Jul 27, 2012, 12:26 AM
my guess is that it'll be called the "new iPhone" and since there is a good chance, well 50/50 chance lets say that it will be called that, then why in the world would they just lengthen the phone that basically looks identical to the 4/4S. sorry im just venting my frustration with these leaks that look subpar to the potential i know apple has. ill bet any money they blow us away with a new design never seen before.

faroZ06
Jul 27, 2012, 12:37 AM
:eek::eek::eek:

Image (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-04.jpg)
Image (http://www.nowhereelse.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Nouvel-iPhone-5-Nak-011.jpg)

uuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Except it's not called the iPhone 6.

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my guess is that it'll be called the "new iPhone" and since there is a good chance, well 50/50 chance lets say that it will be called that, then why in the world would they just lengthen the phone that basically looks identical to the 4/4S. sorry im just venting my frustration with these leaks that look subpar to the potential i know apple has. ill bet any money they blow us away with a new design never seen before.

I doubt it'll be called "the new iPhone" since Apple has never called anything "the new (insert product here)".

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Pathetic, how and why? I can't stand people who post such negative ***** every time someone posts their opinion. They don't like the new rumored design all that much, but are still admitting that they'll most likely buy it anyway. Why is that pathetic? smh. Stop being a d!€k.

The first guy admitted that he was pathetic. No offense, but you're being a bit nosy.

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I don't get this obsession with how thin products are. It's purely marketing material, a stat for some inner page on Apple.com.

The current iPhone 4/4s design is the best looking phone on the market (aside from the whole antenna issue) and is plenty thin. If these phones keep getting wider/taller and thinner they will be impossible to hold.

As for the rumored next iPhone design... I like the softer color on the back but hate the contrast of the two glass/plastic pieces. If metal has issues with reception they shouldn't use it. The headphone jack on the bottom is a terrible idea (hold your phone with your left hand and picture having a jack on the bottom).

Question: Why not make the entire back metal but use the entire back as the antenna?


RIP: teardrop dream


P.S. it's funny how many iSheeps you can see in this post. Just look at people rationalizing the 3 piece back. Will I buy one? **** YES lol.

You could just put a case on if you don't like the design. I don't really care what my phone looks like, and if you've ever seen my computer (which you never have).....

Also, in response to the bold, the reason they don't make the iPhone wider is because no matter how long it is, you can still hold it just as easily. Also, 16:9 is not too long. My complaints are about the new dock connector (seriously, what's even better about it?) and the bigger screen, which draws more power and isn't really more useful for me.

Rogifan
Jul 27, 2012, 12:38 AM
More from the Verge. Internal documents showing Samsung was obsessed with beating Apple.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/27/3192614/samsungs-beat-apple-strategy-copying-court-documents

samh4life
Jul 27, 2012, 12:55 AM
No one other then tech geeks like us and people who visit forums remotely care about generation number coinciding with the iPhone and/or OS or not. If they were to do something as stupid as call it the iPhone 6 a (now follow along here) "majority" of the public will be asking "what happened to the iPhone 5?!? All this would do will cause people to be confused. Something Apple wouldn't want. It will either be "the new iPhone" or "the iPhone5" it will not be 6. Ya all said the same thing about the 4S. It's iOS5 the fifth generation it will not be called iPhone 4S. How quickly we forget don't we. Seriously anyone who knows anything about marketing and branding will tell you going from iPhone 4S to iPhone 6 makes no sense what-so-ever. Who knows but i'd be less be surprised if they just didn't call it the iPhone 4S-XL then if they called it the iPhone 6.

then why did they go from iphone (original)(iPhone 1.0) to iPhone 3G(2nd generation)(iPhone software update 2.0)? Because they named it based on the product getting a 3G cellular chip. Then they named the next iphone the 3GS because the S stood for speed due to the OpenGL graphics card they added to it. Even though it was the 3rd generation phone(iPhone software update 3.0). Then the next iphone was the iPhone 4 (4th generation phone) ( IOS 4, which was when Apple shortened it to IOS). Then again they added the S (which stands for speed by upgrading the A4 chip to an A5) to the iPhone 4S(5th generation)(IOS 5) . If Apple keeps to the marketing pattern of their predecessors then it could only logically be the iPhone 6 or whatever i mentioned in the original post. Apple couldn't care less if people become confused, and your not the first person I've had this discussion with. I've had email conversations with editors at BGR and CNET and they both agreed with my logic.

Maybe some people forget but I haven't; since I've actually owned an iPhone since the iphone 3G and kept up with my information to stay relevant.

But it's all just my opinion and apple could name the thing the iphone awesome for all we know...

Steve is gone so pretty much anything could happen at this point...

pear21
Jul 27, 2012, 12:57 AM
Get rid of that home button, Apple.
Yes that is what I want, then extend the screen up and down instead of just making the phone taller

samh4life
Jul 27, 2012, 01:17 AM
Does anyone know if the new dock connector will have any new features in it? Or is it just different so we have to buy adapters?

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The iPhone already has 4G, you know. Not all 4G is LTE. HSPA+ is considered 4G, and only AT&T (the best service provider in my area) offers it on the iPhone.

It's going to be the iPhone 5. Their naming convention does not go by the generation number. Otherwise, "4S" would not fit, and there would be awkward even numbers: iPhone 4, 4S, 6, 6S, 8, 8S, etc.

I think the numbers make it more sellable because the newer ones seem newer. If they numbered the iMacs, though, it would just be embarrassing because it would constantly remind people of how Apple only updates them once in a blue moon. According to a survey, more than half of iPhone 4 owners thought that their phone had 4G just because of the "4", and this was before HSPA+ was on the iPhone.

I know it has "4G" already but 4G is a loose term. However, the ITU Radiocommunication Sector (ITU-R) considers 4G to be 100mb/s up and down. So 4G is really just a marketing ploy as is LTE, however the difference between HSPA+ and LTE is that LTE has the room to evolve into true 4G speeds if the carrier so desires.

But Apple could name it iphone LTE or some iteration like that because it's a new standard by carriers. Just as 3G was in 09' when the 3G came out.

haha wow who did they survey and when? Possibly the people who bought it for $99 after the 4s was already out who only use it to text and take pictures?

Also how can you boldly say that it will be called the iPhone 5? Do you actually work in Cupertino or are you just stroking your ego?

I've just been giving my opinions on the matter....and like my momma always says opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one. (actually replace a word in the saying with the alternative but you get the gist)

Edit: The ITU defines 4G or IMT-Advanced as technology that offers download speeds of 100Mbps on mobile devices or 1Gbps on fixed wireless connections.

Tadros86
Jul 27, 2012, 01:23 AM
I hope they still keep the noise canceling microphone. The video recordings on my iPhone 4 have amazing sound quality compared to those made on my iPhone 3G and that is largely due to the noise canceling microphone.

ValerieDurden
Jul 27, 2012, 01:25 AM
uuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Except it's not called the iPhone 6.

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I doubt it'll be called "the new iPhone" since Apple has never called anything "the new (insert product here)".
Umm the "New" iPad hello...

Hunchback Jack
Jul 27, 2012, 02:20 AM
then why did they go from iphone (original)(iPhone 1.0) to iPhone 3G(2nd generation)(iPhone software update 2.0)? Because they named it based on the product getting a 3G cellular chip.
Agreed.

Then they named the next iphone the 3GS because the S stood for speed due to the OpenGL graphics card they added to it. Even though it was the 3rd generation phone(iPhone software update 3.0).
Yep.

Then the next iphone was the iPhone 4 (4th generation phone) ( IOS 4, which was when Apple shortened it to IOS).
Well, hang on, now. It's true that Apple use the generation number to identify iPods, but they do so consistently, and the buying public understands what "6th Gen nano" (or whatever) means.

But the nomenclature for iPhones is obviously different, as you've explained. They *might* have called the successor to the 3GS the iPhone 4 because it was the 4th generation, but I doubt most of the phone-buying public were keeping count.

Rather, I suspect they called it the iPhone 4 because "4" is one more than "3". The fact that it also happened to be a 4th gen phone might have been a happy accident. Had "3G" wireless protocols been called "2G" protocols, and the second and third iPhones been called the 2G and 2GS, I'd bet the next one would have been the iPhone 3.

(I also think they called it the 4 because they were hinting that the *next* phone might be 4G, given that this one wasn't.)

In any case, the next logical choice would be the iPhone 5 if Apple follow the naming convention I've described above.

HBJ

Fatboy71
Jul 27, 2012, 02:34 AM
"No headphone port, but where is it?!"

Its on the bottom of the iPhone :)

knewsom
Jul 27, 2012, 02:37 AM
Yup, new galaxy note here I come...

gmanist1000
Jul 27, 2012, 02:41 AM
I've seen lots of articles on this design, but I never understood why they would design it like that. What is the purpose of the metal part in the middle of the iPhone?

c:v
Jul 27, 2012, 02:50 AM
http://swipe.nokia.com/

Image (http://swipe.nokia.com/img/features/feat-bundle2.jpg)

I think Lumia's came way after Nokia N9 which is a much superior device.

I really like those Lumias from the aesthetic point of view. Anyone tried them yet? Would they sync with iCloud contacts and iCal?

SS1
Jul 27, 2012, 04:12 AM
Just give us the iPhone 3G shape with Aluminum finish, and make it in black too.

steveash
Jul 27, 2012, 04:27 AM
I think the early concept looks nicer but to be honest it will take more than a light redesign to prevent me from jumping ship to a Galaxy Note 2.

Savor
Jul 27, 2012, 04:36 AM
I hope the two tone rear doesn't see the light of day. It's ugly, and just doesn't follow Apple's design philosophy. :confused: And the first generation iPhone didn't have a two-tone rear?

33man
Jul 27, 2012, 04:53 AM
Forget tear drop design, the device has to be comfortable in both portrait and landscape mode...

If there is a metallic back plate I hope we may use it to scroll or select text without having our non transparent finger on the screen... Well we will see soon.

When I see One X I definitely think that Apple can gain a lot of space if they remove theses two black bars which are not usefull at all... And for the god sake, if the home button is still there please make it as a rectangle, non need of such waste of space... A 4" screen can easily fit in the current 4,4S case...

So don't go in android mode, bigger screen just for bigger space for battery...

newyorksole
Jul 27, 2012, 04:55 AM
anyone who thinks this will be remotely close to what the new iphone will look like is crazy. i've been with apple products since day 1 and a shareholder since 2003 and tell me, when has there ever been this many leaks of a new product. these have to be old prototypes.. I'm not saying they won't include some of the new features like the 9 pin connector shown, which may be plausible, but come on its been a number of years since a redesign and they're not just going to change the length and not the width, they are going big. I'm expecting great things and looking for a total redesign with a teardrop shape again hopefully with both width and length increased a bit. Insane to think that apple would make the iphone 5 look so much like the 4/4s bc that's not what Jony Ive does. He makes the impossible a reality.

You, my friend, are going to be very disappointed when the new iPhone releases. The iPhone 3G leaked, I think the 3GS too, iPhone 4 got lost and then a couple weeks later other people got their hands on 1.... Etc

Apple isn't gonna pull a random all new design out of a hat. They'll still sell millions with a taller phone.

Macman45
Jul 27, 2012, 04:58 AM
Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/early-iphone-prototype-resembles-latest-iphone-5-part-leaks/)


As we noted (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/samsung-v-apple-trial-documents-reveal-early-iphone-and-ipad-prototypes/), The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3190849/court-documents-reveal-multiple-ipad-iphone-prototypes-kickstand) has come across a number of photos of iPhone prototypes in court documents related to Apple's lawsuit with Samsung. One of the early prototype images seemed particularly familiar to us.

This two-tone design with a central aluminum backing looks like an early version of the rumored next-generation iPhone:

Image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/07/iphoneproto.jpg)


On the right is a prototype iPhone design posted (http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3191793/apple-iphone-prototype-pictures#3597776) by the Verge. The image on the left is a rendering of the next generation iPhone by Blackpool Creative (http://www.blackpoolcreative.com). The rendering was based (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/08/high-resolution-iphone-5-renderings-based-on-leaked-parts/) on leaked (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/29/more-photos-from-claimed-next-generation-iphone-include-front-panel-with-centered-facetime-camera/) parts of the upcoming iPhone. The parts were also shown on video here:

YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8XY841RAY4Y)
Similar parts have been circulating for a couple of months now. One early report (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/03/more-claims-of-taller-thinner-next-generation-iphone-with-4-inch-screen-and-new-dock-connector/) described it as such:It seems possible that the new iPhone has evolved from some of the early Apple prototyping of possible designs.

Article Link: Early iPhone Prototype Resembles Latest iPhone 5 Part Leaks (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/07/26/early-iphone-prototype-resembles-latest-iphone-5-part-leaks/)


Best leaked concept yet, I like the two tone colouring, but as always we wait and see.

Jayomat
Jul 27, 2012, 05:13 AM
I must say I also like the curved back of my 3GS better, just feels more natural in your hand, the straight back of the 4+ iPhone just does not fit in your palm that well. but I guess we won't see the 3GS back anymore. :(

thisrocks
Jul 27, 2012, 05:21 AM
The part that doesn't make sense to me in all of this, is the centred USB port. It made sense with the 30 pin connecter because of its width, but such a slim cable coming out of the middle seems odd.

Only thing is, I can't think of anywhere better to put it unless they reposition the speaker (oh if only there were two) - the headphones being down the bottom is a decent move, as you won't have cables coming out left right and centre when gaming.

marcusj0015
Jul 27, 2012, 05:29 AM
this.

but sadly this.


I'm just not ready to switch to Android, no matter how lackluster the next iPhone is turning out to be.

How is that lackluster?! 4'' screen, LTE, probably NFC, 1GB RAM, bigger battery, new design. What else could there possibly be?

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The part that doesn't make sense to me in all of this, is the centred USB port. It made sense with the 30 pin connecter because of its width, but such a slim cable coming out of the middle seems odd.

Only thing is, I can't think of anywhere better to put it unless they reposition the speaker (oh if only there were two) - the headphones being down the bottom is a decent move, as you won't have cables coming out left right and centre when gaming.

It's in the center to give the speakers more separation, giving it a more 3D sound.

burtba
Jul 27, 2012, 05:40 AM
Mate, they are absolutely SICK renditions. This would just be so awesome. This however is FAR too much of a jump for Apple. They tend to take baby steps. So much so that Samsung has now over-taken Apple as far as 'Form-Factor goes. The iPhone 4 form factor is old. The IOS with rows and rows of icon is old. IMO this new iPhone 5 leaked images is disappointing. (not a massive surprise since Steve is no longer with us)
If these images you posted here was the iPhone 5 I would pre-pay for one, without knowing any more about it. This designer needs a job at Apple.

More about this concept:
http://nak-design.over-blog.fr/article-iphone-6th-generation-104377889.html
Image (http://www.fredzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/iphone-6-5.jpg)
Image (http://www.fredzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/iphone-6-7.jpg)

Mackan
Jul 27, 2012, 05:47 AM
And in the year 2525, when the last existing raw aluminum piece was carved...

Poisednoise
Jul 27, 2012, 05:50 AM
It's in the center to give the speakers more separation, giving it a more 3D sound.

I don't think there are two speakers. One is the microphone. There would be little point to two speakers in any case: you're never going to get a stereo sound (which is what I assume you meant by "3d") with separation of only 3cm, particularly given that the phone's unlikely ever to be positioned correctly in relation to your ears. :)

juannacho
Jul 27, 2012, 06:00 AM
I hope the two tone rear doesn't see the light of day. It's ugly, and just doesn't follow Apple's design philosophy. :confused:

It kind of does though doesn't it? I'm sat in front of my iMac right now and in terms of a base visual philosophy I've got a big shiny screen area and a matte metal strip at the bottom with a gloss Apple logo.

This design to me at least feels as though it's more in line with the broader Mac product range than the current iPhone.

I'd have to see it in the flesh though to decide if it actually looks any good! ;)

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 06:03 AM
I'm still confident the next iPhone won't look anything like the "leaked prototype", too many un-Apple qualities, awkward to hold and use, alignment of camera off etc.

I expect more likely to look like a small iPad with tapered rear ally shell, glass apple logo etc, slightly bigger than iPhone 4 in height and width with 4.3" screen...

Well that's what I want at least! But all seems feasible, the taper would help account for extra size in the hand, I mocked this up on 3DS Max and realistically the phone would only need to be about 1-2mm wider and 6-7mm longer to accommodate this screen based on iPad parts and spacings. It would look great and be a logical design step rather than the poor leaked design, no matter how much it's growing on people.

Rogifan
Jul 27, 2012, 06:16 AM
To me these photos show that the case leaks we've seen could be one of many prototypes. Apple clearly does a ton of prototying and 3D mockups, most of which never see the light of day.

QuiteSure
Jul 27, 2012, 06:31 AM
I know that there are many comments that the iPhone 4 is looking old but for my money it is the perfect form factor. I'm old enough to remember that portable phones have gotten smaller and smaller to become more convenient. Now that cell phones have become smart phones and therefore very small portable computers the trend is moving towards larger screens. I get that and I do see some benefits to having a larger screen on my smart phone but at the end of the day I'm still carrying this thing around and I need functionality and above all portability.

Chupa Chupa
Jul 27, 2012, 06:48 AM
I know that there are many comments that the iPhone 4 is looking old but for my money it is the perfect form factor.

Yeah, it's classic styling in my eyes too. If it only wasn't so delicate! I'm still not sure if it will retain that look stretched out to 16:9, and I'm having an even harder time with the two toned back. In pictures it looks contrived like Apple wanted to avoid having to retool entirely so part of the back is stamped from the same machine that makes the iPhone 4 back.

But pictures can often betray how people and things look in real life (many BMWs as case-in-point) so we'll have to wait and see the real thing. I admit I'll buy regardless. What the heck, it's going to be covered up in a case whether it's a SI swimsuit model or something less lovely. Ha!

cgk.emu
Jul 27, 2012, 07:24 AM
Pathetic.

Nice judgement there, sport. How about, without knowing anything about you, I call your choice of car pathetic? Kinda dumb right? So was your comment.

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I think your math is off.

iPhone
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5

Yup, it's right. It's the naming convention. Not the generation name they are referring to. The first iPhone didn't have a "number" in it's name. This would be Apple's fault. I think they might start calling it the "iPhone" just like the new "iPad" and leaving off the numeric convention.

Hm, I count 6...Apple can call it whatever they want, it is still the 6th gen iPhone, period. Don't point at a blue sky and call it red.

johnybarkerr
Jul 27, 2012, 07:37 AM
According to me, Maybe that's a prototype iPhone 4 that Apple's stuck put onto the rumour mill to build suspense, and the real thing is actually totally different and much better!! That would be brilliant.

JHankwitz
Jul 27, 2012, 07:47 AM
It's continual leaks like this that cause people to not purchase the iPhone 4s resulting in a significant drop in sales, poor market perceptions, and stock devaluation. I guess I should turn lemons into lemonaid and put every penny I have into Apple stock now because it's going to go sky high when the iPhone 5 is released.

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 08:24 AM
Just make it something like this and I'll be happy.

Excuse the poor mock-up, 15 mins on Photoshop but just showing scale needed for 4.3" screen. Phone size doesn't need to dramatically increase (see dimensions). Details obviously not all there but it's just an example of what I'd hope the next iPhone to be rather than the leaked mock-up.

http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Jimrod/iPhone5-1.jpg

fertilized-egg
Jul 27, 2012, 08:29 AM
Yeah, it's classic styling in my eyes too. If it only wasn't so delicate! I'm still not sure if it will retain that look stretched out to 16:9!

So far from what we've seen, it does seem the new 4" form factor is Apple trying to giving the iPhone 4 design a bigger screen without changing the look from the front so much. So we'll see.


and I'm having an even harder time with the two toned back. In pictures it looks contrived like Apple wanted to avoid having to retool entirely so part of the back is stamped from the same machine that makes the iPhone 4 back.

I doubt that's really true though. Rather I believe this is yet another evidence of my earlier point: Apple is trying to keep at least some of the classic iPhone look. After all, based on the rumored pictures the material and the structure have been completely changed from glass sandwich to metal unibody. That would've probably required Apple more retooling than simply changing the superficial look.


But pictures can often betray how people and things look in real life (many BMWs as case-in-point) so we'll have to wait and see the real thing.

That's so true. Remember how all iPhone users were disappointed when the lost iPhone 4 pictures leaked out? In person it looked spectacular, in a large part because of the excellent fit&finish and the feeling of a premium product.


Just make it something like this and I'll be happy.


There was that rumor which indicated the new iPod Touch would look very similar to your mock up with a "buffed" aluminium back. I doubt its display will be 4.3" though.

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 08:42 AM
There was that rumor which indicated the new iPod Touch would look very similar to your mock up with a "buffed" aluminium back. I doubt its display will be 4.3" though.

Yeah, I actually made the mock-up a little thin but aside from that I think from trying various phones (my contract was up six weeks back but I'm letting it roll rather than upgrade before the next iPhone) that 4.3" is about the ideal for a modern multi-media phone. Galaxy S3 is getting too large, anything under 4" is looking too small... Who knows what Apple will do but I still doubt the leaked design is legit due to odd detailing.

srazz
Jul 27, 2012, 08:48 AM
These two tone mock ups are ugly. Doesn't seem like a product from Apple. Either all glass or all aluminum. :)

GermanyChris
Jul 27, 2012, 09:04 AM
Big screen and no 30pin = No sale

Macrolido
Jul 27, 2012, 09:12 AM
Now we know why Steve Jobs decided to redesign the original prototype.

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 09:26 AM
Big screen and no 30pin = No sale

I often look for number of pins when choosing a phone... :D But seriously, there'll be an adaptor for any existing equipment if they change it, if it is smaller and helps to make the design better then that can only be a good thing long term.

GermanyChris
Jul 27, 2012, 09:31 AM
I often look for number of pins when choosing a phone... :D But seriously, there'll be an adaptor for any existing equipment if they change it, if it is smaller and helps to make the design better then that can only be a good thing long term.

I don't want a kludge solution I want a 30 pin dock connector and a 3.5" screen. This is a mini iPad with a connector that fits nothing.

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 09:39 AM
I don't want a kludge solution I want a 30 pin dock connector and a 3.5" screen. This is a mini iPad with a connector that fits nothing.

Then you just keep the iPhone 4/4S - easy! It'll be cheap when the new one arrives too. They will absolutely make it a bigger screen, phones are basically mobile internet browsers nowadays and the iPhone has been looking outclassed in screen size for a while (though some are definitely TOO big). Making it longer only would be silly as that only benefits video which most people would not consider a major factor aside from YouTube vids.

GermanyChris
Jul 27, 2012, 10:00 AM
Then you just keep the iPhone 4/4S - easy! It'll be cheap when the new one arrives too. They will absolutely make it a bigger screen, phones are basically mobile internet browsers nowadays and the iPhone has been looking outclassed in screen size for a while (though some are definitely TOO big). Making it longer only would be silly as that only benefits video which most people would not consider a major factor aside from YouTube vids.

I'll probably meander back to android..

Jimrod
Jul 27, 2012, 10:03 AM
I'll probably meander back to android..

Aye, if new iPhone is as shown then I'll probably make the switch, the HTC or Samsung things seem ok, if not quite as polished as Apple stuff... As I can take my upgrade now I won't bother waiting if it's just for a longer screen and slightly crappier design.

tigertazz
Jul 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
I like the "iPhone 5" renders much more than the actual leak you see in the video. While I still believe it's not a big design change, I'm beginning to like the "iPhone 5" design more and more.

Ditto.

faroZ06
Jul 27, 2012, 11:33 AM
Umm the "New" iPad hello...

They didn't call it "The New iPad". It's just "iPad".

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Mate, they are absolutely SICK renditions. This would just be so awesome. This however is FAR too much of a jump for Apple. They tend to take baby steps.

Well, the super-thin design is also impossible to build at the moment.

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I don't want a kludge solution I want a 30 pin dock connector and a 3.5" screen. This is a mini iPad with a connector that fits nothing.

I'm not so worried about the bigger screen, but the new dock connector looks pointless. It's an example of "fixing" something that doesn't need fixing. Great, now my stuff won't work with it. You know what? I'm staying with my iPhone 4.

b33g33
Jul 27, 2012, 11:37 AM
Is it just me, or is Apple bringing up old rejected by Jobs ideas ever since he died?

I thought the same thing but as long as Ive has some say (and apparently his contract says he does) that wouldn't happen.

Unless, he's now using his freedom from Jobs to explore earlier ideas.

chagla
Jul 27, 2012, 11:40 AM
I really like those Lumias from the aesthetic point of view. Anyone tried them yet? Would they sync with iCloud contacts and iCal?
I believe you can import your contacts and calendar entries. You may need something like a Gmail account. N9 is a fine product from Nokia. See below for more details on the operating system.

The device feels on par. The OS does not. Symbian > WP7 right now. Can't speak for WP8. Unfortunately, the Lumia will never see that update. Pretty disappointing.

I think you misunderstood. The Nokia N9 does not run Symbian. It runs Meego OS. Meego turned out to be a fine and very smooth OS. The interface is quite intuitive. It retains the power of open source with a simple yet elegant interface.

east85
Jul 27, 2012, 12:22 PM
Because Apple was so known for their use of single uniform colors in all their previous aqua-era designs. Yet somehow they were still called simplistic designs. Those stripes in the candy iMacs were completely one toned, right?

Adding style to a simple design does not add any complexity. I honestly love the new design and think it looks more interesting than if it were just a flat color. Not to mention, the build quality looks even a step above the 4S, which is already top notch.

But maybe people should hold off judgement until we've actually seen the final product fully assembled. It's pretty hard to get a grasp on the whole thing when you only look at a single part that is not even confirmed yet.

1. You just judged the design.
2. You suggested people shouldn't judge the design.

SMH.

Honestly if you think color complexity has no bearing on the overall aesthetic of a design you're simply out of touch or blind. I honestly don't know what else to say.

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It's not multicolored, it's a material change. And who says it's not without a purpose? We just don't know yet. Just sayin.

Yes it is, it has two differing tones on it, material change or not. The iPhone 4/4s are the most beautiful elegant designs that Apple has ever released. I think if what has been posted is to be believed, Apple is taking a step backwards.

Hunchback Jack
Jul 27, 2012, 01:40 PM
So the consensus seems to be that the 5 will have a bigger screen. But will that mean higher resolution? If not, what's the point of a bigger screen?

If it does mean higher resolution, what will it be, and what will Apple do about supporting old apps?

HBJ

GorgonPhone
Jul 27, 2012, 02:16 PM
iphone 4S2 on the way... called iphone5..lol

i am sooo bored of the grid of app icons ui of ios..

teknikal90
Jul 27, 2012, 02:21 PM
am I the only one who dislikes the darkened metal rim? I really like the look of the old black and brushed metal ala iphone 4, ipad and the macbooks...
now it looks like they're darkening the metal to differentiate it from the white one..

lordofthereef
Jul 27, 2012, 03:51 PM
hi there, who was your carrier? i mean what brand is your s2? at&t? sprint? or tmobile?

I am not sure you meant to quote me here, but I was referring to WP7, specifically the Lumia 900. I used it on AT&T.

marcusj0015
Jul 27, 2012, 03:53 PM
I don't think there are two speakers. One is the microphone. There would be little point to two speakers in any case: you're never going to get a stereo sound (which is what I assume you meant by "3d") with separation of only 3cm, particularly given that the phone's unlikely ever to be positioned correctly in relation to your ears. :)

when I said 3D sound, I meant a bit more than Stereo, but that was the basic idea yes.

Blacknight10s
Jul 27, 2012, 04:48 PM
Just make it something like this and I'll be happy.

Excuse the poor mock-up, 15 mins on Photoshop but just showing scale needed for 4.3" screen. Phone size doesn't need to dramatically increase (see dimensions). Details obviously not all there but it's just an example of what I'd hope the next iPhone to be rather than the leaked mock-up.

Image (http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Jimrod/iPhone5-1.jpg)

you are totally right! this looks gorgeous and this should def be what the new iphone should like like.. yesss easier said then done, but come on apple is not coming out with a design like these leaks. look how many complaints there has been about the design leaking. apple with take everyones breath away, watch. Not one product have i not liked the design of except for these leaked photos. Thats why i'm so confident.

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You, my friend, are going to be very disappointed when the new iPhone releases. The iPhone 3G leaked, I think the 3GS too, iPhone 4 got lost and then a couple weeks later other people got their hands on 1.... Etc

Apple isn't gonna pull a random all new design out of a hat. They'll still sell millions with a taller phone.

yes i know those leaks, but this has been multiple leaks. and dude you're totally wrong, a taller iphone is NOT cool. watch just watch.

ahireasu
Jul 27, 2012, 05:48 PM
Just make it something like this and I'll be happy.

Excuse the poor mock-up, 15 mins on Photoshop but just showing scale needed for 4.3" screen. Phone size doesn't need to dramatically increase (see dimensions). Details obviously not all there but it's just an example of what I'd hope the next iPhone to be rather than the leaked mock-up.

Image (http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad245/Jimrod/iPhone5-1.jpg)

First of all thank you for the mock up, 15 mins on photoshop and you presented what i was saying 2-3 months ago when i saw the 1st leaked iphone 5 pics.

People were complaining,... "i don't want a bigger iphone", "don't want a bigger screen because it will make the phone to big to use" etc. nonsense and downvoting ofc anyone that was saying otherwise like myself.

My comments were, that this "new" design is not new at all, just a facelift of the previous model, now many of you think the same :), second was that to have an iphone with up to 4.3" display you don't need to change the size of the phone that much, since the iphone 3g was 115.5X62.1 and iphone 4 115.2X58.6 and i believe most of the people here felt that the iphone 3g had a better feel in their hands do to the curved back.
So a 62.1 width didn't make the iphone hard to handle and didn't felt in your hands to big to use, in the same way IMHO something like the mock up above (with a apple feel in the design) would be a great iphone that most of us would love to use.
Maybe curved glass?(for the back,is it even possible?) hmm that will make the iphone heavier than the iphone 4, aluminum back? will it kill the signal or if it is used as the antena? will it work? don't know i am not a tech guy,but to have this screen the phone doesn't need to increase in size dramatically.
Sorry for the long post and my grammar etc. i am not a native speaker,hell i didn't even study english not once in my life :D

Shade12
Jul 28, 2012, 08:26 AM
what is this? a gameboy?

😒yeah tell me about it. Fake

EpicTier3Gamer
Jul 28, 2012, 01:25 PM
If you don't like the design THEN DON'T BUY IT
If you don't like iOs THEN DON'T BUY IT

AND STOP WHINING

Android sucks very unstable piece of crap

pure3d2
Jul 28, 2012, 04:43 PM
What happened with "teardrop" design ?

I'm sick of hearing this goddamn rumor. No one wants that ugly ass design. The phone won't sit level--it looks stupid. Apple's not going to do it.

ThroughwithPCs
Jul 31, 2012, 11:05 PM
Pls God do not change the charging port. Apple has not released an apple dock with an iPhone since the 1st iPhone and I still use mine daily with my 4s. This possible mini port would suck a bit...unless they make new docks. I also don't believe Apple would be so unoriginal to just toss the 4s on a torture device and just stretch it and say tah dah. Hopefully they are wiser and will keep the phone the same size but extend the screen somehow. There is enough space to extend the screen on the current phone...just to figure it out is the issue at hand.

Fatboy71
Aug 1, 2012, 01:34 AM
Pls God do not change the charging port. Apple has not released an apple dock with an iPhone since the 1st iPhone and I still use mine daily with my 4s. This possible mini port would suck a bit...unless they make new docks.

They maybe won't be new docks out straight away if the next iPhone changes to a mini dock connector, but they will be adapters available either from Apple or some third party developers, it's too much of an opportunity for them to miss.

I think all the panic about accessories etc not working if Apple changes to a mini dock is a lot of fuss about nothing has adapters will be available.

lazard
Aug 1, 2012, 10:05 AM
Pls God do not change the charging port. Apple has not released an apple dock with an iPhone since the 1st iPhone and I still use mine daily with my 4s. This possible mini port would suck a bit...unless they make new docks. I also don't believe Apple would be so unoriginal to just toss the 4s on a torture device and just stretch it and say tah dah. Hopefully they are wiser and will keep the phone the same size but extend the screen somehow. There is enough space to extend the screen on the current phone...just to figure it out is the issue at hand.

At this point, Apple knows that they can releasing anything into the market and people will gobble it up, so why bother spending time and money to redesign.