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mauly
Aug 1, 2005, 04:40 PM
I'm thinking about appying for the new manchester store in the UK. Anyone know what the starting wage is for Mac Specialist?
zakatov
Aug 1, 2005, 05:19 PM
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:
therevolution
Aug 1, 2005, 05:28 PM
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:You don't see this much in America, but in other places (such as the UK) it is okay to phrase a sentence like this. Since Apple consists of multiple people, you can optionally refer to it as a plural noun.
Capt Underpants
Aug 1, 2005, 05:34 PM
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:
Well thank you mr. grammar policeman :rolleyes:
supergod
Aug 1, 2005, 06:20 PM
Well, considering the min wage is different in every country, I'm assuming so is the pay for Apple specialists. It's decently above the min here in Canada plus there is something to be said for the discounts. On a side note, why don't you just get your lazy ass off the computer and call the store or go there with a resume and ask them how much?
-btw, grammer copper, I support your cause, but I find it interesting how you managed to be so upset with this mans grammar and yet not notice his spelling.
rose red
Aug 1, 2005, 06:46 PM
hey mauly, thas nowt wrong with tha lingo. I assume they will competitive with the area rather than a national policy, but as there are so few Apple stores in the UK it's difficult to find out. What would help you is if people could tell you how Apple compares at its different US stores. If you do get a job there, I may see you when it opens.
Jedi128
Aug 1, 2005, 06:52 PM
Good luck with getting the job.... but I've heard that getting a job at an Apple Store is harder than getting into some of the best Colleges like Harvard and Princeton, or maybe Oxford for UKers. I would love to have a job at an Apple store... what could be better?
PaRaGoNViCtiM
Aug 1, 2005, 06:52 PM
On a side note, why don't you just get your lazy ass off the computer and call the store or go there with a resume and ask them how much?
-btw, grammer copper, I support your cause, but I find it interesting how you managed to be so upset with this mans grammar and yet not notice his spelling.
Is there really a reason for you to call him "Lazy"?!
Macky-Mac
Aug 1, 2005, 07:01 PM
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:
the name of a corporation is acctually a plural noun so "do" is actually correct.....however if you check an American gammar reference book you'll find that it is generally recommended to avoid using a sentence like this because it sounds awkward to Americans due to our widespread mis-use of corporate names as single nouns
toothpaste
Aug 1, 2005, 07:18 PM
Good luck with getting the job.... but I've heard that getting a job at an Apple Store is harder than getting into some of the best Colleges like Harvard and Princeton, or maybe Oxford for UKers. I would love to have a job at an Apple store... what could be better?
The elitist/perfectionist attitude of Jobs is great for Apple, but it by no means equates that working at an apple store is great. What could be better than working there? How about working at the Jet Propulsion Lab at NASA? Bell Labs? Boeing?
It's only an apple. It's only a store. You still have to deal with computer illiterate people, people that are spoiled by "it just works" marketing of apple. So i guess it's all relative as to what could be better or worse.
law guy
Aug 1, 2005, 07:59 PM
the name of a corporation is acctually a plural noun so "do" is actually correct.....however if you check an American gammar reference book you'll find that it is generally recommended to avoid using a sentence like this because it sounds awkward to Americans due to our widespread mis-use of corporate names as single nouns
It's a collective noun isn't it Macky-Mac? Corporations, bands, families, teams, I believe are all examples. I think the rule is to treat as singular when treating as a single item: Apple Computer IS located in CA, rather than Apple Computer ARE located in CA. The Douglass family IS coming to dinner. The plural form of a collective noun is used when referring to components of the corp.
The example I found in a quick search was:
"There are, further, so called collective nouns, which are singular when we think of them as groups and plural when we think of the individuals acting within the whole (which happens sometimes, but not often).
Thus, if we're talking about eggs, we could say "A dozen is probably not enough." But if we're talking partying with our friends, we could say, "A dozen are coming over this afternoon." The jury delivers its verdict. [But] The jury came in and took their seats."
No notion of UK usage.
CanadaRAM
Aug 1, 2005, 08:04 PM
It's a collective noun isn't it Macky-Mac? Corporations, bands, families, teams, I believe are all examples. I think the rule is to treat as singular when treating as a single item: Apple Computer IS located in CA, rather than Apple Computer ARE located in CA.
And no matter what the name is: "Many Astounding Innovations Inc." as a limited corporation is (not are) a single entity under law.
Regardless: from what I've heard on other boards, Apple (retail) Stores are paying a buck or two over minimum wage for floor staff. Genii get more. But not enough, for example, to support a family, even at full time.
And unless Apple breaks the conventions set by nearly every other chain retailer, they will be offering part-time and shift work to as many employees as possible, so as to minimize the number of full time employees who qualify for benefits, overtime, holidays etc.
cardiac dave
Aug 1, 2005, 08:11 PM
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:
and zakatov, if you're going to use the term 'eh' then you had better be prepared to show some documentation of Canadian citizenship.
afields
Aug 1, 2005, 08:14 PM
Wow, talk about going off on a tangent...lame. :rolleyes:
GFLPraxis
Aug 1, 2005, 08:24 PM
ARGH! I want Apple to open up a store where I live! :(
mkrishnan
Aug 1, 2005, 08:34 PM
and zakatov, if you're going to use the term 'eh' then you had better be prepared to show some documentation of Canadian citizenship.
People in the North of Michigan use "Eh" quite a lot too, traditionally... Da Yoopers. :)
ham_man
Aug 1, 2005, 08:59 PM
All this we and I and talks of plurals and singulars has got my mind all ****ed up. I just read Anthem this afternoon... :rolleyes:
"How well do apple pay", eh? You might wanna finish middle school first :rolleyes:
Politeness costs nothing you know.
:rolleyes:
AliensAreFuzzy
Aug 1, 2005, 09:14 PM
People in the North of Michigan use "Eh" quite a lot too, traditionally... Da Yoopers. :)
And some of the Wisconsinites that head up there a lot.
AP_piano295
Aug 1, 2005, 09:32 PM
and zakatov, if you're going to use the term 'eh' then you had better be prepared to show some documentation of Canadian citizenship.
Australians say eh to sometimes atleast the ones I know.... or is that oy... anyone who can stand vegimite is crazy any way fermented yeast paste :p
superninjagoat
Aug 1, 2005, 09:38 PM
It's a collective noun isn't it Macky-Mac? Corporations, bands, families, teams, I believe are all examples. I think the rule is to treat as singular when treating as a single item: Apple Computer IS located in CA, rather than Apple Computer ARE located in CA. The Douglass family IS coming to dinner. The plural form of a collective noun is used when referring to components of the corp.
The example I found in a quick search was:
"There are, further, so called collective nouns, which are singular when we think of them as groups and plural when we think of the individuals acting within the whole (which happens sometimes, but not often).
Thus, if we're talking about eggs, we could say "A dozen is probably not enough." But if we're talking partying with our friends, we could say, "A dozen are coming over this afternoon." The jury delivers its verdict. [But] The jury came in and took their seats."
No notion of UK usage.
Correct. And the UK (as well as all other English-speaking countries) follow the same rule. Proper English grammar does not change with geography (only with time :)). American English speakers often treat many plural-context collective nouns as singular; UK English speakers tend to err in the other direction.
mkrishnan
Aug 1, 2005, 09:58 PM
And some of the Wisconsinites that head up there a lot.
Yeah, the U.S. should just bite the bullet and become the 11th province. :eek: ;) :D
devilot
Aug 1, 2005, 11:20 PM
Apple sales associates get paid more than minimum wage. I don't know the current minimum wage-- to find out, ask a Gap sales associate. I kid you not. I would know, I used to work at one. But at least I was a bit luckier, I had a title so I also got paid $0.25 more than other people who had been working for 2+ years, needless to say, they were not pleased when they somehow found out how much I was being paid. :eek:
dejo
Aug 1, 2005, 11:23 PM
And don't forget: Steve Jobs only get $1/year. :D
superninjagoat
Aug 1, 2005, 11:30 PM
And don't forget: Steve Jobs only get $1/year. :D
Ironic and a grammar pun. Funny.
barneygumble
Aug 1, 2005, 11:44 PM
Australians say eh to sometimes atleast the ones I know.... or is that oy... anyone who can stand vegimite is crazy any way fermented yeast paste :p
hey i love my fermented yeast paste :) best thing on toast ever :D , and yes a lot of us say oy but it you refers to calling someone out such as "oy get outta the way d***head"
mad jew
Aug 1, 2005, 11:59 PM
zakatov, don't criticise other member's grammar and then not use a full stop (period).
AP_piano295, Australians say "Oi" quite a bit. Mainly to get people's attention or (in my case) if the Oiee's name has accidentally been forgotten. Yes, Oiee is the official term for someone getting yelled at with the word "oi", which is said by the Oier. Example: "Oi, get a job you lazy hippie". Used with authority in the Oier's voice for maximum effect. :p
barneygumble, I agree, Vegemite is the single greatest thing to come in a jar.
CanadaRAM , what's the minimum wage? I've heard that the American hospitality industry relies on tipping because of their astronomically low base rates. Is this the same for retail, and if so, how does that work? Commission?
devilot
Aug 2, 2005, 12:07 AM
CanadaRAM , what's the minimum wage? I've heard that the American hospitality industry relies on tipping because of their astronomically low base rates. Is this the same for retail, and if so, how does that work? Commission?
I'm not CanadaRAM, but from my years in the retail world, not that many people/ companies have commission. Some jewelers, Sharper Image, car sales people, select high-end clothing (Gucci, St. John, etc.), or other boutiques (I worked at a tiny boutique in downtown Los Gatos and was given 4% commission on top of a "generous" hourly wage of $7.50. At the Gap, I was lucky and was paid $6.75 while most of the other associates were paid $6.50.
Usually, you are not just paid straight up commission on the sales... it's based on, "Meet your quota, and if you exceed it, you get commission on that part of the sale."
mad jew
Aug 2, 2005, 12:16 AM
Okay, thanks devilot76.
That's quite a bit lower than I would have expected. So are we saying Apple Store employees should be paid about $8.00 or so then?
devilot
Aug 2, 2005, 12:37 AM
Okay, thanks devilot76.
That's quite a bit lower than I would have expected. So are we saying Apple Store employees should be paid about $8.00 or so then?
I think that is roughly what they get paid, which I must reiterate, is MORE than minimum wage. Of course, minimum wage is a huge joke... because nobody, I mean, nobody, living and supporting him/herself in the Bay Area can live off of the stated minimum wage. Psh.
CanadaRAM
Aug 2, 2005, 12:38 AM
CanadaRAM , what's the minimum wage? I've heard that the American hospitality industry relies on tipping because of their astronomically low base rates. Is this the same for retail, and if so, how does that work? Commission?
Minimum wage in BC, Canada is CAN$8 per hour or about US $6.50, excepting that employers can get away with paying youth a $6 "training wage" for the first --3 months? 6 months? -- regardless whether there is any training involved.
So my guess is US$8 per hour for Apple Store employees.
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