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digitalove
Jul 27, 2012, 12:29 PM
I'm personally satisfied with Mountain Lion.

- My Mac feels smoother and nicer to use, the new dock is beautiful.

- Safari 6 made me leave Google Chrome.

- Notification Center is working great.

- I now use Notes + Reminder, imo they were pretty much useless before (in my case at least) because you couldn't manage your events + notes on the Mac.

- Dictation is a useful new feature, a bit annoying that it just support few languages (my native language isn't supported)

- AirPlay kinda disappointed about this, since it doesn't support my MacBook Pro (Early 2010)



Overall I think it's worth the update, even considering the low price.

Your opinion?



samplane123
Jul 27, 2012, 12:32 PM
I'm loving it, Safari 6 is 'snappy' ;) and the OS feels much smoother and faster. The new dock is sleek.

Tearabite
Jul 27, 2012, 12:33 PM
My only issue is that the shortcut to start dictation does not work (even if i change it).. It works to turn it off, but not to turn it on.. I only wanted to play with it - since i can type faster than i can 'dictate' ..

So far no other issues.. worth $20 ...

jarofclay73
Jul 27, 2012, 12:36 PM
Been using Dictation with iMessage. Love it. I have an iPhone 4 without dictation so I'm loving this.

Love AirPlay.

Notification Center is long overdue.

Really wanting Power Nap. The update isn't downloading right now.

I don't see Gatekeeper right now.

ScottNWDW
Jul 27, 2012, 12:43 PM
So far I am very happy with the Mountain Lion. Safari is really quick or "snappy" as someone else noticed. The addition of the reminders and notes apps is great. I never used those much on my iOS devices, but now I can see myself doing so. I am also liking the way the iWork documents are all now syncing via the cloud.

Overall my Mac (2011 MacBook Pro) seems like a new machine as it seems to be working faster and just seems smoother.

mactmaster
Jul 27, 2012, 12:44 PM
Coming from Lion and it's great so far. It meshes better with iOS now. Also loving the improved stability.

jameslmoser
Jul 27, 2012, 12:47 PM
I don't know why they removed the setting to disable Mail animations, and Mail seems to have problems with Exchange Server, I constantly have to tell it to rebuild the Inbox in order to see all my mail.

They addressed a few issues with Mission Control, but they should have done a lot more. Its still full of inconsistencies and bugs.

For the most part it does seem better polished than Lion ever was, and it really seems like that was the point. Lion was not a success by any measurement.

WilliamLondon
Jul 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
I told myself I wasn't going to get it until there was an update to the OS, after the fiasco I had installing and working around all the issues with Lion. But, I'm unable to be patient with a new OS out there so I got it and installed it.

I have to admit although there isn't a lot new (or a lot that I will ever use, such as Dictation, plus I have a Mac older than 1 year old so AirPlay is not enabled) it's not crashed once and seems a bit snappier overall, even Safari (which is the bane of my surfing existence sometimes). I'm thrilled with Messages, just wish it was available on non-Apple devices so I could use it to communicate easily with everyone!

Is it worth the $20? Not sure you get excellent value, but $20 really isn't very much money and I'm gullible enough to want always to be on the latest OS, regardless.

shelob8888
Jul 27, 2012, 01:38 PM
I am having no major issues with mine. I love notifications center! My system preferences seems to lag, but everything else is amazingly smooth!!! (I love the new Safari, being able to pinch to view all tabs, and two-finger scroll through them!!!!!)

I am anxious to really dive into the iOS integration and the dictation.

fisherking
Jul 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
I'm really happy with it. It's well worth the $20. And I love that I can dictate my post!

MacGurl111
Jul 27, 2012, 01:43 PM
I love iMessage, hate how it displays my appleID for all to see.. :(

I love reminders, the new mail look, dock, safari, and definitely notifications. I'm addicted to my notifications especially on my mac. Didn't care much for it on my ipad or iphone.

And love how my computer is lightening fast! :D

GimmeSlack12
Jul 27, 2012, 01:45 PM
I notice virtually no difference and am very ho-hum about ML. I wasn't that excited when it was announced, nor when I installed it.

I guess the best thing about ML is that it didn't screw anything up on my computer, though I do think the Reminders and Notes apps are unnecessary and should have remained in Mail.app. The dictation thing I'm only now beginning to pay attention to, it has potential.

adrian1480
Jul 27, 2012, 01:47 PM
Not happy at all.

1.) Switching spaces is now laggier than it ever was on Lion, and seems to actually take longer, meaning more time waiting to actually use the space.

2.) Graphical lag is affecting every graphics-intensive application I have. Maya, Photoshop, etc. all lag.

3.) Launchpad shows NO improvement in the year that feature has been part of OSX. It glitches out and suffers database corruptions just like it did at last year's launch. I expected better. Instead, it's once again a feature I won't be bothered with.

4.) Did I mention graphics lag? It's as if I only have integrated graphics.


2011 MBP, 16GB ram, 160GB SSD, 750GB HDD, AMD discrete graphics.


On a positive note, I do like mail's upgrades. I don't use Safari (Chrome + extensions ftw), but it seems clearly faster than it was. I was also happy that all of my apps were working from day 1. A rare happening. That said, they need to do something about these graphics issues in short fukn order. It's pretty unacceptable to me that so many have posted about graphics issues. It's the one area where changes can be really apparent, and the ball has been dropped here. These weren't issues for me in Lion or Snow Leopard.

I did a Carbon Copy backup, so I may roll back to Lion until these issues are resolved. I use spaces constantly and watching the frame rate drop to what looks like 20fps or less is beyond irritating.

Psycna
Jul 27, 2012, 01:52 PM
waiting for siri...:)

adrian1480
Jul 27, 2012, 01:54 PM
waiting for siri...:)

considering how piss-poor Siri is on iPhones, I have no idea why you'd want it in its current form.

iceman46
Jul 27, 2012, 01:57 PM
I think its great!!!
The OS is SMOOTH!!!
LOVE IT!

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adrian what is poor about Siri?

chrisherbert
Jul 27, 2012, 02:18 PM
Not happy at all.

1.) Switching spaces is now laggier than it ever was on Lion, and seems to actually take longer, meaning more time waiting to actually use the space.

2.) Graphical lag is affecting every graphics-intensive application I have. Maya, Photoshop, etc. all lag.

3.) Launchpad shows NO improvement in the year that feature has been part of OSX. It glitches out and suffers database corruptions just like it did at last year's launch. I expected better. Instead, it's once again a feature I won't be bothered with.

4.) Did I mention graphics lag? It's as if I only have integrated graphics.


2011 MBP, 16GB ram, 160GB SSD, 750GB HDD, AMD discrete graphics.


On a positive note, I do like mail's upgrades. I don't use Safari (Chrome + extensions ftw), but it seems clearly faster than it was. I was also happy that all of my apps were working from day 1. A rare happening. That said, they need to do something about these graphics issues in short fukn order. It's pretty unacceptable to me that so many have posted about graphics issues. It's the one area where changes can be really apparent, and the ball has been dropped here. These weren't issues for me in Lion or Snow Leopard.

I did a Carbon Copy backup, so I may roll back to Lion until these issues are resolved. I use spaces constantly and watching the frame rate drop to what looks like 20fps or less is beyond irritating.

The Spaces switching animation is a little slower than it was in Lion, but it's not really laggy. I think you can make it go faster if you keep your hand on the trackpad for the duration of the movement, rather than "flicking".

Launchpad is hugely improved for me. It's not cluttered up with all the garbage (uninstallers and such) that made it so horrible in Lion, and they added a search field. I'm actually thinking about using it rather than my current method of having the applications folder pinned to the dock. If only I could put the Launchpad icon on the right side of the dock with the folders and trash can.

Haven't noticed any graphics lag compared to Lion. If anything animations are smoother and don't seem to hesitate as they did with Lion (it's probably due to less disk access). And of course Safari is waaaaay smoother than it was before. Overall it's still nothing like the buttery smoothness of Snow Leopard but it's a step up from Lion.

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I have an AMD Radeon HD 6630M, by the way.

Doesn't your MBP use the integrated graphics most of the time anyway?

bowzer
Jul 27, 2012, 02:20 PM
Notifications and iMessage still need some finessing:

I don't like how I need to have mail open to get email notifications. iCal doesn't seem to suffer from this problem??

I dont like getting notified I have a new message when I'm currently chatting in iMessage.

If I message someone from iMessage on the computer, sometimes it shows up as a different entry on my friends iPhone. As in, they'll have one convo with my phone number, and one with my apple id email address. Isn't this supposed to be unified?? :S

Other than a few minor gripes I'm liking the update, I never bothered with Lion.

igiboi
Jul 27, 2012, 02:23 PM
I love safari, I didn't really notice speed changes as I have ssd and mid 2012 13" mbp. Tho it was free for me, Im happy with Messages and iCloud. It seems to justify working on the mbp rather than doing it on the iPhone or iPad. I'm happy with what Apple did to their ecosystem and everything ties up with each other. iloveSafari6, its been smooth for me and I've been using it all the time and left chrome. Notifications is cool, just like growl. I hope they innovate more rather than just copying what's out there. Im not saying there is no innovation but the things that matters to us basic consumers are already available to us out there(like growl) and Messages has been done by Android/Chrome.

nuckinfutz
Jul 27, 2012, 02:28 PM
I guess the best thing about ML is that it didn't screw anything up on my computer, though I do think the Reminders and Notes apps are unnecessary and should have remained in Mail.app.

I'm not in agreement. The only reason why Reminders was in iCal and Notes were in Mail was because they were piggybacking on CalDAV and SMTP for sync.

With iCloud as the sync method there's little reason to have these features buried.

Tombs
Jul 27, 2012, 02:30 PM
I do like ML and its new features, mail works very well, I like how safari loads quicker and the bar and icons seem somehow clearer and sharper (is it me?) But (and it's a big but) theres no mosaic screen saver!!! We love it on our family iMac, its the talking point of anyone who visits us and sees all of our pictures constantly converging to make a picture.....:(

scottsjack
Jul 27, 2012, 03:49 PM
Very happy with Mountain Lion. I prepared two of my three Macs for a clean install by cloning the boot drive. All of my Macs had Lion upgraded from SL so it seemed like a good idea to start fresh.

Having done that I decided to do the normal Apple upgrade and see what happens. All three installations worked great, smooth right out of the box. Other than running Aperture and iPhoto libraries for updating and replacing OnyX and Lion Tweaks there was really nothing much to do. I'm not sure if I'll do the clean installations or not.

The ML upgrade has been a much better experience for me than either the SN or Lion upgrades. Now if only Save As and aqua scroll bars could make a comeback!

adrian1480
Jul 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
The Spaces switching animation is a little slower than it was in Lion, but it's not really laggy. I think you can make it go faster if you keep your hand on the trackpad for the duration of the movement, rather than "flicking".

Launchpad is hugely improved for me. It's not cluttered up with all the garbage (uninstallers and such) that made it so horrible in Lion, and they added a search field. I'm actually thinking about using it rather than my current method of having the applications folder pinned to the dock. If only I could put the Launchpad icon on the right side of the dock with the folders and trash can.

Haven't noticed any graphics lag compared to Lion. If anything animations are smoother and don't seem to hesitate as they did with Lion (it's probably due to less disk access). And of course Safari is waaaaay smoother than it was before. Overall it's still nothing like the buttery smoothness of Snow Leopard but it's a step up from Lion.

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I have an AMD Radeon HD 6630M, by the way.

Doesn't your MBP use the integrated graphics most of the time anyway?Greetings. To answer your questions in reverse order:

1.) my MBP does not use integrated graphics most of the time. In fact, gfxCardStatus makes sure of that.

2.) Also, my system has a superior GPU to yours (1GB, 6750M), so it's interesting to me that you don't notice any visual lag. It's incredibly frustrating for me.

3.) Launchpad is still littered with about 4 pages of garbage for me. To be specific, 4 or 5 pages worth of Windows applications thanks to Parallels. That's Parallels fault more than Launchpad's, but the fact that I can't REMOVE any application I want to from Launchpad is the problem here. I should have full control over what appears in Launchpad so that I can set it up to my liking. Instead, I have 10 pages of applications where if I had my way I'd only have 2. And I think it's a fundamental flaw that I can't make it so without trying to get some 3rd party app to try to bridge that gap.

4.) Keeping my hand on the track pad doesn't seem to help the lag or the pan speed when switching spaces for me. I don't know what is going on with it, but it's extremely frustrating.

I may do a Carbon Copy backup and format & reload just to see if a clean install works better, but I don't expect it to. It seems like a driver issue to me. No more, no less.

The system processes are minimal as always and the computer is nice and cool, but graphics-related tasks are jerky in EVERY application, not just when switching spaces. Photoshop is choppy, Maya is choppy, etc. And yes, it's even worse on Integrated graphics. If I were estimating, I'd say I'm getting about 24 fps on discrete and about 15 fps on integrated. It just plain sucks. :(

*by choppy, I mean frames per second that are clearly lower than the 30+ fps we usually see from the OS when on dedicated graphics.

I'll try a format and reload after backing up because I refuse to use my computer like this. If that doesn't work, I'll probably re-install my Lion Carbon Copy clone and wait until a GPU update for my GPU is released.

Or, I may start a thread to find out if it's just me or if other 6750M owners are having the same problems.

sine-nomine
Jul 28, 2012, 04:07 PM
So far, I'm very pleased with Mountain Lion. Someone who had a good experience with Lion may not find ML very compelling, but my experience with Lion was very poor, and ML is a tremendous step up for me. I don't know how much people feel like reading, but I'll give some comparisons between my experiences with Lion and ML on the off chance someone might find them useful:

- Opening System Preferences in Lion would take several dozen seconds. Often the icon would bounce for a very long time before the window finally appeared. Sometimes, usually if System Preferences had recently been open, it would bounce maybe 3 times, but the window wouldn't appear for several tens of seconds more. My first instinct was that System Preferences had crashed on launch, but in the end it was just taking its sweet time. Opening a preference pane was a pain, too. Not only did it take a long time, actually using the pane meant waiting for awhile until your action was registered. Showing All took several tens of seconds.
In ML, though, System Preferences launches within a few seconds. The Dock icon bounces 4 or so times, and the window is up and ready to use. Individual panes are responsive. Showing All is nearly instant.

- Spotlight was very sluggish in Lion. It would frequently beach ball as I'd type, and it would filter the results very slowly. A specific example: When I'd type "f" with the intention of launching Firefox, Firefox would be the first hit...but with the slow filtering sometimes the Top Hit would be blank for awhile. So I'd go ahead and type "fi" hoping it would help Spotlight figure out what I wanted. It didn't help - typing "fi" would universally, and almost immediately, place Coconut Wi-fi as my Top Hit, despite the fact that I hadn't used that app since moving to Lion. It was faster to just go ahead and type "fire" than to type "f" and wait for the filtering.
In ML, though, there is no sluggishness at all. When I invoke Spotlight and type "f" the Top Hit instantly shows Firefox. Spotlight hasn't beachballed as I type once since the upgrade. Results are filtered instantly without the bothersome pauses where Top Hit (and often Applications) would be blank.
Lion's Spotlight also missed many documents, even when I'd actually type in their filenames or a line of text I knew they contained. They just wouldn't show up. They DO show up in ML. This is an improvement. I would go so far as to say that Spotlight under ML surpasses Spotlight under Snow Leopard. That's saying something.

- Quitting applications in Lion would often (as in most of the time) cause them to hang and require a Force Quit. Quitting applications in ML actually quits the application!

- In Lion, it generally took 10-15 seconds to launch an application (launching System Preferences took even more time). Firefox would take closer to 30 seconds. In ML, most applications launch within 4 or 5 bounces of the Dock icon and are ready to use within about 5 seconds. Even iPhoto only takes about 10 seconds to launch in ML.

- Stacks in Lion wouldn't scroll smoothly. They generally would only show blank squares and never show the file icon/preview. Scrolling through a stack usually caused repeated beachballing. Launching from a stack would cause several seconds of delay between clicking the app and seeing the app appear and bounce on the Dock. Opening a file from a stack would cause a similar delay before anything happened.
None of this happens under ML. Icons fill in quickly (though not instantly), and scrolling is smooth. There is no extra delay when I open/launch a file from a stack.

- Typing in Lion was awful. In any app, in any text field, Lion couldn't keep up with my typing. It generally lagged at least a word behind. Any autocorrecting would cause a beachball that would set it even more behind.
Typing in ML hasn't so far been an issue. ML easily keeps up with what I am typing, and autocorrect doesn't cause a beachball or a delay.

- Mission Control's animation stuttered under Lion, but it's very smooth in ML. Add to that the option to ungroup windows, and I have something almost as good as the Exposé from Panther, Tiger, and Leopard! Snow Leopard's take on Exposé was the only major annoyance I had with that OS. Lion's Mission Control caused me major aggravation. ML's is pretty good. While I do still miss a pre-Snow Leopard Exposé and the old grid of Spaces, I think I can live with ML's Mission Control and even be happy with it.

- I prefer Mail in full-screen mode. Sometimes when I launched Mail in Lion, it would automatically open full-screened. Sometimes it wouldn't. In ML, it's opened full-screened each time I've launched it since the first.

- Dashboard in Lion would generally take about 10 seconds to update the weather widget and iStat. In ML, swiping into Dashboard causes these widgets to update within about 1 second.

- Launchpad's new search field is handy. Same with the search in Dashboard.

- Under Lion, my MacBook took several minutes to sleep. It also took around 10 seconds to wake from sleep. In ML, sleeping takes somewhere around 30 seconds. Waking from sleep is almost immediate.

- Booting up under Lion took around 3 minutes. Under ML, it's been taking around 45 seconds. Shutting down in Lion took anywhere from 1 to 3 minutes. Shutting down in ML is consistently taking about 5 seconds. Lion always started up with the audio muted, no matter what it had been set to previously. ML doesn't do this.

- Switching to the Guest account in Lion sometimes caused the machine to freeze and require a hard reset. I even got a few full-on gray-screen kernel panics switching to the Guest account. When it worked, it could take around 3 minutes before the Guest account was ready to be used. Subsequent switching into the Guest account would take around a minute. In ML, The first switch to the Guest account takes about 15 seconds. Subsequent switches take about 3.

- Finder in Lion…actually I don't want to rehash those unpleasant memories. Finder in ML isn't sluggish and seems to work without aggravation or hanging. I can even eject external drives in a timely manner now. Adding 100MB's worth of files to a USB drive no longer takes several hours.

- Wifi in Lion was generally fine, but fairly often it wouldn't log into my network when waking from sleep. During these times, the icon in the Menu Bar wouldn't show any networks near me. It would just search over and over and do nothing. Turning off and on the Wifi would usually fix the issue, but sometimes it required a reboot. So far, ML has managed to log back into my network when waking from sleep every time.

- I was never able to use my bluetooth mouse under Lion. Any attempt to connect it would result in a kernel panic. It connects and works just fine in ML.

So for me, Lion was very, very bad. My problems persisted even after a clean reinstall. They were present when I created a new user account. They remained even after performing the usual recommendations of repairing permissions and resetting the SMC and PRAM. I know there were quite a few people who had positive experiences with Lion. I was most definitely not one of them. In my own personal experience, Lion now ranks with Windows ME as the absolute worst operating system I've ever used. I dreaded having to use my Mac to actually get any work done. It was bad enough using it to check email or send a friend a message on Facebook. Until Lion, my Mac was always a joy to use. With Lion, I hated using it. I'd wake it up wondering what was going to **** up next.

My old iBook running Jaguar had exactly three kernel panics in 2 years, each of them brought about by overheating when one of the vents got blocked by my clothing without me realizing it. That same iBook with Tiger had one kernel panic when I loaded in what turned out to be a corrupt CD-R with old back-up files. One of the point releases fixed whatever issue caused that, and I had no further problems in the next two years that computer lasted. Other than that, I never had a situation that forced a hard reset. On my current MacBook, I never had a kernel panic or needed a hard reset under Leopard or Snow Leopard.

With Lion, had had several dozen kernel panics and several dozen situations where I had to hard-reset the machine. That's all in one year. So yeah, that's 7 years of using Macs with a total of 4 gray screens telling me I need to restart my machine, then 1 year of a few dozen of those instances, and a few dozen more where there was no gray screen, but the system was entirely unresponsive.

My longest uptime was 189 days under Jaguar. It could have been longer, but we had an electrical storm, and I shut the computer down. My longest uptimes under Tiger, leopard and Snow Leopard were just shy of 100 days. I restarted due to updates. My longest uptime under Lion was 10 days, and the computer was beachballing constantly.

For me, Mountain Lion is ever so much better. Maybe I was just so beaten down by my Lion experience that anything would seem good by comparison, but so far I'd rank ML as right up there with Snow Leopard and Tiger.

Sorry for going on so long, but hopefully someone will get some good out of it.

concernedone
Jul 28, 2012, 04:31 PM
I want my refund. It crashed my whole system. :(

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1413572

Ksh
Jul 28, 2012, 04:54 PM
Well,to be honest I'm really impressed with it :D

The upgrade went smoothly (less then 15min) in a new MBA 2012 and absolute everything runs better now compared to Lion.Global performance just makes me smile hehe

I'm plenty sure you won't regret from the upgrade :)

krspkbl
Jul 28, 2012, 05:13 PM
I absolutely love Mountain Lion! I haven't had one problem with it so far *touch wood*.

For a first release it is really stable, in my experience. It runs so much more efficient than Lion. Lion wasn't slow but it wasn't fast and it always made my MacBook run quite hot all the time. Mountain Lion is way faster/smoother and my MacBook feels cold all the time. There's no need for the fans to be going, I can't hear them at all. On Lion you could always hear them spinning away, not loudly but you could tell they were going.

Another thing I'm loving is the battery life! My MacBook is almost 4 years old, the battery has gone through 1400 cycles and has 89% health (according to coconutBattery) and I was getting 2.5hrs MAX out of a full charge with normal use. My battery currently has 3.5hrs left at 90% charge!

Overall it just feels much more complete. It ties in with iCloud/iOS very well which I like. I wasn't so sure about OS X tying in with iOS a couple years back but I quite like it. I'm really looking forward to the point releases in the future which can only improve stability/performance.

thekev
Jul 28, 2012, 05:22 PM
I want my refund. It crashed my whole system. :(

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1413572

I'd just revert for now. Bugs mentioned by others are enough to make me avoid it for now.

parapup
Jul 28, 2012, 05:25 PM
Freaking wifi problem exists like it does on every dot zero Apple release - two out of two of my different machines all fail to reconnect to WiFi after wakeup from sleep.

Doc69
Jul 28, 2012, 06:17 PM
Not happy at all.

1.) Switching spaces is now laggier than it ever was on Lion, and seems to actually take longer, meaning more time waiting to actually use the space.

Download the app TotalSpaces. Then you can turn off the space switching animation altogether. I go from space to space with Ctrl+number key and it's instant. Or use CTRL+arrow keys to go to the next or previous one. I couldn't use Lion/ML without it. And you get the Snow Leopard grid back as well!

Markovich
Jul 28, 2012, 07:10 PM
I honestly think Lion and now ML are the worst iterations of OS X to date. Mind you, I've been using Macs since and LC with OS 7. The greyscale icons, the lack of any color in the menu bars or Finder sidebar seems to me like a huge step backwards, not to mention simply boring. At the very least, let ME decide whether to have color or not in a preference tab that should be integrated into a single pref pane. Also, the Documents folder lacked the ability to sort by clicking at the top. Stupid UI features carry over, like the Finder prefs and View options. iCloud offers me nothing I really need and i resent Apple requiring Lion or ML in order to use iCloud and basic features like Back to my Mac. I used that feature in SL to support various relatives Mac's scattered across the US. Most of SL and one has Lion. There is no technical reason for this, just a marketing push by Apple. The one other MobileMe ( .Mac) feature I used was iDisk, thats gone now too.

I upgraded on the first day and today, I went back to Snow Leopard, which will likely be considered the last of a fine breed. My MBP and 27" i5 iMac with ML became slow, lots of spinning beach balls and both had Wifi issues that didn't exist before. I don't like Safari's integrated address and search field nor its sluggishness and total failure to load some sites. The new Safari is a weak attempt by Apple and doesnt really compare with more robust browsers like FF and Chrome.

Overall, the OS was not impressive and offered me no functionality enhancements that I needed. I'm back to Snow Leopard and probably here to stay.

Doc69
Jul 28, 2012, 10:49 PM
The greyscale icons, the lack of any color in the menu bars or Finder sidebar seems to me like a huge step backwards, not to mention simply boring. At the very least, let ME decide whether to have color or not in a preference tab that should be integrated into a single pref pane.


Amen to that!

MassiveAttack
Jul 28, 2012, 11:10 PM
I also left Google Chrome for Safari. :)

50voltphantom
Jul 28, 2012, 11:29 PM
Very happy with it so far. Haven't done any extensive work on my Mac since upgrading but so far it just feels more responsive overall. Certainly better than Lion. I think this is truly the "Snow Leopard" upgrade for Lion.

jk73
Jul 28, 2012, 11:41 PM
I was fired up about Mountain Lion but then I read that RSS (and the Activity window) were eliminated from Safari and RSS was eliminated from Mail. As a result, I'm holding off on M.L. for now. (For purposes of this thread, I guess I'm unhappy with M.L. even though I haven't installed it yet.)

Faux Carnival
Jul 29, 2012, 12:21 AM
Not a big change for me. Chrome is still the way to go. Other than that, I guess I needed a clean install after all. Everything is faster but that's probably becuase I formatted my disk, not the new OS.

However, I love the dock. Change is good.

photographypro
Jul 29, 2012, 12:36 AM
Been using Dictation with iMessage. Love it. I have an iPhone 4 without dictation so I'm loving this.

Love AirPlay.

Notification Center is long overdue.

Really wanting Power Nap. The update isn't downloading right now.

I don't see Gatekeeper right now.


Get Dragon Dictation for FREE and you'll have dictation on your iPhone 4, or ANY iPhone for that matter!

Duff-Man
Jul 29, 2012, 12:56 AM
Duff-Man says...well, so far I'm pretty happy with it. 10.8.0 seems better than 10.7.whatever ever was, and I think it'll just get better with .1 and .2. I've a few quibbles with the new Safari but no game-breakers, perhaps some hacks/extensions will deal with those, but overall it's a solid release for me....oh yeah!

Rennir
Jul 29, 2012, 01:06 AM
Honestly, I didn't have any problems with Lion that everyone seemed to be getting. No lag or stability issues at all. But ML is fast! I didn't think I was gonna get a speed increase updating, but it's flying! I'm very satisfied. The iOS integration is also useful too.

macbook yes
Jul 29, 2012, 01:09 AM
I seem to be having the opposite experience as many of you. I upgraded from SL and my computer is much slower now and runs much hotter. I wish I could go back to SL. This computer is just barely 3 years old. I know that's a long time, but it shouldn't be so difficult to use.

concernedone
Jul 29, 2012, 01:17 AM
I honestly think Lion and now ML are the worst iterations of OS X to date. Mind you, I've been using Macs since and LC with OS 7. The greyscale icons, the lack of any color in the menu bars or Finder sidebar seems to me like a huge step backwards, not to mention simply boring. At the very least, let ME decide whether to have color or not in a preference tab that should be integrated into a single pref pane. Also, the Documents folder lacked the ability to sort by clicking at the top. Stupid UI features carry over, like the Finder prefs and View options. iCloud offers me nothing I really need and i resent Apple requiring Lion or ML in order to use iCloud and basic features like Back to my Mac. I used that feature in SL to support various relatives Mac's scattered across the US. Most of SL and one has Lion. There is no technical reason for this, just a marketing push by Apple. The one other MobileMe ( .Mac) feature I used was iDisk, thats gone now too.

I upgraded on the first day and today, I went back to Snow Leopard, which will likely be considered the last of a fine breed. My MBP and 27" i5 iMac with ML became slow, lots of spinning beach balls and both had Wifi issues that didn't exist before. I don't like Safari's integrated address and search field nor its sluggishness and total failure to load some sites. The new Safari is a weak attempt by Apple and doesnt really compare with more robust browsers like FF and Chrome.

Overall, the OS was not impressive and offered me no functionality enhancements that I needed. I'm back to Snow Leopard and probably here to stay.

Yep yep and yep. Not to mention finder is really limited. They don't offer the feature of merging two same name folder/ document. This feature is really really useful in windows 7 especially if u deal with lots of documents day to day. Also u cannot cmd c or x any files or folders. Another cool windows trick. It doesnt allows u to copy the path for the files easily unless u drop it in terminal. Also it doesn't have the jump list of most recent files on the app/ program-- thats super useful! not to mention u can pin files on the jump list. And Aero snap! Mac can really learn a thing or two fr windows.

And why don't mac have a official app or program to remove apps? Windows have a built in add or remove program. Mac have something from a third party. Also trash sometimes don't have put backs for all of the items. I just see Mac offering a lot of fluff stuff not essential stuff, and I'm comparing ML to windows 7. It seem to me that an yearly update means- more rushed, less planned out, more bugs for the consumer than like a 3 year update for windows. The windows to Mac transition has not been very smooth. I like SL because of expose but mission control really messed it up and not to mention ML crashed my system of 16g of ram memory. I'm not for windows or for apple but yea apple is definitely pushing for hardware than software and vice versa for windows. In conclusion of this long post- windows have better OS in terms of functionality. ML is too much eye candy and not really all that impressive eye candy as Linux.

tido2012
Jul 29, 2012, 01:48 AM
Definitely love using Mountain Lion. I have only had it installed for a few days and I have already used calendar, notifications, notes, and iMessages enough to complain if I had to switch back :D. Definitely a nice upgrade from Lion, even though I really enjoyed using that as well. Makes it really nice to just be able to update different things such as notifications and notes or my calendar while I'm on the computer (such as my shopping lists) and then pick up my phone and go and know it will be updated there.


One thing that would be nice to have is to be able to communicate with people that have android phones from our iMessages to whatever their version of that is. This would allow me to not have to worry about whether I'm getting an important text message from someone while I'm on my computer and to be able to respond irregardless of their cell phone type. Anyways, maybe someone will come up with a way to achieve this in the future.

GerritV
Jul 29, 2012, 02:02 AM
I had to download resp. install ML three times. Icons in Finder not showing, no Dock background showing, no system sound, etc etc etc.
Of course this leads to searching the web, reading forums... IOW losing a lot of precious working time. Not to mention the frustration of feeling like your machine "just works (by luck)".

So, my first impression is not good at all. This no longer feels like Apple.
I'm considering a clean install, so even more time will float down the drain.

darkarr
Jul 29, 2012, 02:17 AM
Are you kidding me? Mirroring doesn't work, and Messages is a complete piece of ****. I now get messages on my computer and not my phone, even when my computer is shut off. Also, the search in the url bar sucks ass. Is there any way to get the google search box back?

I've been a mac user since practically day one and this is the most suck ass piece of crap I've seen in many years. I really hope they get their **** together.

Goldenarmz97
Jul 29, 2012, 03:06 AM
Battery life is horrible on ML, this needs to be addressed asap.

Agathon
Jul 29, 2012, 03:22 AM
Yep yep and yep. Not to mention finder is really limited. They don't offer the feature of merging two same name folder/ document. This feature is really really useful in windows 7 especially if u deal with lots of documents day to day. Also u cannot cmd c or x any files or folders. Another cool windows trick. It doesnt allows u to copy the path for the files easily unless u drop it in terminal.

To complain bitterly about these things is pure nitpicking. At least the people who are having problems with stability, wireless connectivity, etc. have actual problems.

And Aero snap! Mac can really learn a thing or two fr windows.

Yeah, right. Your username doesn't even try to hide it.

And why don't mac have a official app or program to remove apps?

Because OS X generally doesn't need one. Removing an app consists, in almost all cases, of dragging that app's icon to the trash (if you really care you can hunt down the preference files in ~/library, but they take up virtually no space). Windows needs uninstaller programs because Windows programs typically install substantial chunks here, there and everywhere.

In conclusion of this long post- windows have better OS in terms of functionality. ML is too much eye candy and not really all that impressive eye candy as Linux.

Posting this sort of provocative material on an Apple forum might have been worth it ten years ago, or even perhaps five. Given what has transpired since then, it's just sad. Microsoft has been reduced to a vendor of bland, basic software that people buy for no other reason than because its a standard.

You just don't get it. Microsoft is no longer an Apple competitor. Apple doesn't really care about selling operating systems or office software to businesses or price conscious consumers. Apple has virtually eliminated Microsoft from the markets Apple wants to dominate (phones, music, the high end of the consumer market, tablets, etc.).

I teach at a university. The vast majority of the students now own Macs. If they have a tablet, it's almost certainly an iPad. If they have a smartphone it's likely an iPhone, and it if isn't, it will be an Android device. If they have a music player, odds on it's an iPod. I have yet to see a Windows phone on campus.

Microsoft is now more or less irrelevant. Who really cares about the latest train wreck version of Windows other than people who have to? If you feel inclined to purchase Ballmer's latest embarrassing offering, more power to you.

KiwiAdventure
Jul 29, 2012, 03:23 AM
Mac Pro Start up and iPhoto is slower, other than that all works.

Tander
Jul 29, 2012, 03:31 AM
This new OS is much better.Loving it.

Dictation works well - doesn't always catch all the words I say correctly - but I think that's just due to my pronunciation of certain words. :(

Safari rock, finally we can search within the address bar and the pinch to tabs is awesome, too!

I feel Twitter integration is also great - could be better though.

Overall, very happy.

TennisandMusic
Jul 29, 2012, 03:31 AM
I absolutely love Mountain Lion! I haven't had one problem with it so far *touch wood*.

For a first release it is really stable, in my experience. It runs so much more efficient than Lion. Lion wasn't slow but it wasn't fast and it always made my MacBook run quite hot all the time. Mountain Lion is way faster/smoother and my MacBook feels cold all the time. There's no need for the fans to be going, I can't hear them at all. On Lion you could always hear them spinning away, not loudly but you could tell they were going.

Another thing I'm loving is the battery life! My MacBook is almost 4 years old, the battery has gone through 1400 cycles and has 89% health (according to coconutBattery) and I was getting 2.5hrs MAX out of a full charge with normal use. My battery currently has 3.5hrs left at 90% charge!

Overall it just feels much more complete. It ties in with iCloud/iOS very well which I like. I wasn't so sure about OS X tying in with iOS a couple years back but I quite like it. I'm really looking forward to the point releases in the future which can only improve stability/performance.

I think you mean "knock on wood."

"Touch wood," implies a different connotation.

GerritV
Jul 29, 2012, 03:34 AM
Apple has virtually eliminated Microsoft from the markets Apple wants to dominate (phones, music, the high end of the consumer market, tablets, etc.).

I agree, but what happens with "computers for pro users"?

tarco0
Jul 29, 2012, 03:45 AM
Freaking wifi problem exists like it does on every dot zero Apple release - two out of two of my different machines all fail to reconnect to WiFi after wakeup from sleep.

had the same problem, i just deleted the records in the keychain and the network from the wifi advanced options. now my wifi connects automatically after wakeup from sleep

JurgenV
Jul 29, 2012, 04:01 AM
So far I'm loving it. Never had any real issues with Lion but it certainly seemed slower than Snow Leopard, but upgrading to Mountain Lion was flawless and its flying like crazy on my late 2008 MBP.

Most of the features seem to come to use when iOS6 gets released so I can't wait for that. Also the notification center seems a bit pointless for me at least at this moment.

ann713
Jul 29, 2012, 04:31 AM
Very much so! I haven't seen a single beach ball since upgrading from Lion. Should be a good sign. *knocks on wood

Agathon
Jul 29, 2012, 04:57 AM
I agree, but what happens with "computers for pro users"?

My guess is that there's not enough money in that market segment for Apple. Making products to suit geeks, for example, is a niche market. I can understand and do sympathise why pro users feel increasingly left out, but I can't personally see what can be done about it given the profit motive (some people might have a better idea). The big money seems to be in working towards ubiquitous computing for regular folks – MS seems to be light years behind there.

mboogaard
Jul 29, 2012, 05:05 AM
My problem is a heavy battery drain. After 30-45 minutes I only have 66% left... Other problem is the behavior of my fan again. It's always on and my MBA13 is getting hot.

Anyone else with these problems?

GerritV
Jul 29, 2012, 05:06 AM
My guess is that there's no real money in that.

I was afraid for that, even with Steve Jobs always claiming he wasn't in it for the money. Shame on you Apple :(

Agathon
Jul 29, 2012, 05:09 AM
My problem is a heavy battery drain. After 30-45 minutes I only have 66% left... Other problem is the behavior of my fan again. It's always on and my MBA13 is getting hot.

Anyone else with these problems?

Mine isn't that bad, but noticeable nonetheless. My best guess is that someone in Cupertino is being verbally roasted about it right now, so it will likely be fixed soon.

I had a few problems of this sort with Lion (Apple fixed them so quickly, I've forgotten the specifics). But that's partly my fault for being a first day installer of every single version of OS X since 10.0 (and that was a bit of a pig until 10.1 came out).

gstoelen
Jul 29, 2012, 05:43 AM
Not unhappy with it, but a few cosmetic things I find annoying... They changed the looks of the dots underneath open apps on the Dock. In 10.7 it was a lot clearer/easier to see which ones are open

I guess the nicest features are iCloud integration and iMessage :D

hafr
Jul 29, 2012, 06:03 AM
Yep yep and yep. Not to mention finder is really limited. They don't offer the feature of merging two same name folder/ document. This feature is really really useful in windows 7 especially if u deal with lots of documents day to day.
Hold the alt-key pressed as you're moving a folder to a location where another folder with the same name exists and prepare to be amazed ;)

Also u cannot cmd c or x any files or folders. Another cool windows trick.
No, but if you press cmd+c, you have the option to either copy the file into another location by pressing cmd+v, or moving it by pressing alt+cmd+v.

It doesnt allows u to copy the path for the files easily unless u drop it in terminal.
Drag and drop also gives you the path in for instance text boxes such as this. Try it. Or, you just make an alias and copy the path from there.

And Aero snap!
This is a feature I found annoying at first, but I agree - it's great. OS X should have it!

fb0r
Jul 29, 2012, 06:24 AM
I'd say I'm fairly happy with it. 10.8.0 Mountain Lion is certainly far more stable from a reliability point of view than 10.7.0 Lion was when it first came out. Memory handling is much, much improved and my old MacBook Pro 13 is actually usable now compared to how slow and prone to disk swapping it was on Lion.

If I'd have to pick some nits I'd say that the graphical sluggishness of the GUI is the most irritating issue. It's not as if it makes the computer unusable but little things like stuttery animations in Calendar (very choppy on all three of my macs compared to iCal on Lion), slightly more stuttery scrolling in Safari on script heavy sites and/or sites with lots of HTML/CSS elements, choppy animations when switching between desktops (definitely not as smooth as Lion/Snow Leopard was on my two 2010 macs, though still very fluid on my 2011 MBA 11) etc makes ML not seem quite as polished as 10.7.4. (Yet.)

I'm guessing/hoping that there will be a patch out in 10.8.1 to correct some of the stuttery/choppy GUI animations. If they fix that then I'd say it's definitely a major step forward from Lion but as it is now I can certainly still live with 10.8.0.

Cheers, fb0r

BPeter
Jul 29, 2012, 07:35 AM
I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard. I use 13" Macbook Pro 2010. So far I'm quite pleased with the new OSX. It is a significant improvement over the SL in terms of overal functionality.

Here is what I enjoy the most: 1) integration with iCloud, 2) full screen mode, 3) notification center, 4) ability lto run the latest XCode.

However I noticed few problems (so far): 1) Safari crashes and freezes the ML -it is useless in its curent version so I switched to Chrome for now, 2) the notebook's CPU runs few degrees C warmer, 3) the battery drain is higher and the notebook does't last on single battery charge as long as it used to when I eas running Snow Leopard on it.

I think that the Mountain Lion has a great potential but it still needs some updates and bug fixes for it to really shine.

octatonic
Jul 29, 2012, 07:51 AM
Me = not happy.

Not happy at all.
I have an 09 MBA11.
Mountain Lion keeps the fan on high rotation and the MBA is too hot to have it sit comfortably on my lap.

I downgraded to Lion yesterday and it is fine.
I am waiting for a point upgrade before trying again.

hafr
Jul 29, 2012, 07:53 AM
I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard. I use 13" Macbook Pro 2010. So far I'm quite pleased with the new OSX. It is a significant improvement over the SL in terms of overal functionality.

Here is what I enjoy the most: 1) integration with iCloud, 2) full screen mode, 3) notification center, 4) ability lto run the latest XCode.

However I noticed few problems (so far): 1) Safari crashes and freezes the ML -it is useless in its curent version so I switched to Chrome for now, 2) the notebook's CPU runs few degrees C warmer, 3) the battery drain is higher and the notebook does't last on single battery charge as long as it used to when I eas running Snow Leopard on it.

I think that the Mountain Lion has a great potential but it still needs some updates and bug fixes for it to really shine.
I haven't had Safari crash once, let alone freeze the computer. Bug, or incompatibility with certain sites?

cube
Jul 29, 2012, 08:00 AM
No.

They haven't fixed the scrollbars.

And Safari freezes sometimes.

Abazigal
Jul 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
I personally find it a tad underwhelming that the 200+ promised new features turn out to be just around 10 new features, with each minor tweak apparently counting as one whole feature of its own. I would expect safari to count as 1 improvement all on its own, not 7-8.

I guess that's why it is so cheap. You really get what you pay for.

That said, here are my observations.

1) Safari is no replacement for chrome. It still doesn't feel as smooth, and I find that when I pinch to zoom, the text simply expands beyond the entire screen, unlike chrome, where the page readjusts itself to fit the current borders. Maybe when ios6 brings icloud tabs to my ipad...

2) Dictation is still as unreliable as ever, and apparently, I spit a lot when I talk. :eek:

3) Notification center is great, and I may just go back to using mac mail because of it. :)

4) My imac seems to take longer to shut down. Not really an issue though.

5) Never really used notes or reminder before ML, now seriously giving them a serious relook.

6) Imessage working fine.

7) Haven't bothered with game center, VIP mail or airplay yet (what's the point of streaming from a desktop?).

Anything else I overlooked?

ADMProducer
Jul 29, 2012, 08:17 AM
5) Never really used notes or reminder before ML, now seriously giving them a serious relook.


Anything else I overlooked?

Why so serious?


:D

Jokes aside, I've seen a battery performance decrease in my 2010 13 Pro. Other than this, ML is excellent.

50548
Jul 29, 2012, 08:22 AM
Me = not happy.

Not happy at all.
I have an 09 MBA11.
Mountain Lion keeps the fan on high rotation and the MBA is too hot to have it sit comfortably on my lap.

I downgraded to Lion yesterday and it is fine.
I am waiting for a point upgrade before trying again.

It's indeed pathetic to hear about higher temps and increased fan activity in a system that was supposed to "optimize" Lion.

In fact, I've never had any issues with Lion (apart from a disappearing mouse cursor, probably due to Cyborg RAT drivers) and I really don't understand why some people think that ML is any better. MOST of the praise goes to Safari 6 (also overhyped, since improvements are close to nil), which is NOT a ML-only thing.

Unless you are REALLY dependent on iOS and iCloud integration, ML is absolutely useless and irrelevant as an OS X update. I won't be upgrading until these major gripes are fixed (including much-weaker GPU performance with Radeon cards), and features idiotically removed (such as spinning wheels for checking email and Safari tabs) return to OS X.

PaulKemp
Jul 29, 2012, 09:23 AM
Unless you are REALLY dependent on iOS and iCloud integration, ML is absolutely useless and irrelevant as an OS X update. I...

It depends on your personal experiences with bugs. And your own hardware i suppose. I've yet to see one bug on my MBA 2010 or iMac 2011. I know there are bugs, but I'm personally haven't experienced any. And Lion had bugs even at 10.7.4.

System wide AirPlay (for sound) is a feature that wholly supports the whole purchase for me. In fact, I'm now streaming a tennis match in HD from my iMac to the TV! Thats not useless nor irrelevant if you ask me.

BlackMax
Jul 29, 2012, 09:41 AM
Switched from SL to ML on my 2010 11" MBA. So far I am very happy with ML. The performance is on par with SL and my MBA even seems to run a little cooler. I'm also enjoying learning about all the new added features since SL.

Haven't used Safari 6 much yet (I'm a Chrome user), so I can't say whether it is an improvement or not.

50548
Jul 29, 2012, 09:49 AM
It depends on your personal experiences with bugs. And your own hardware i suppose. I've yet to see one bug on my MBA 2010 or iMac 2011. I know there are bugs, but I'm personally haven't experienced any. And Lion had bugs even at 10.7.4.

System wide AirPlay (for sound) is a feature that wholly supports the whole purchase for me. In fact, I'm now streaming a tennis match in HD from my iMac to the TV! Thats not useless nor irrelevant if you ask me.

You are right. Unfortunately, apart from AirPlay Mirroring (which in any case has limited use outside the realm of video streaming) there is very little to praise in ML.

Abazigal
Jul 29, 2012, 10:04 AM
You are right. Unfortunately, apart from AirPlay Mirroring (which in any case has limited use outside the realm of video streaming) there is very little to praise in ML.

I can see uses for it in schools/companies where you can readily share whatever is on your screen without having to get out of your seat and jostle for the vga cable (same way you share via ipad). :)

maril1111
Jul 29, 2012, 10:49 AM
So far so good... hopefully it will stay that way :D

bbfc
Jul 29, 2012, 10:52 AM
I'm loving ML. I did an upgrade but considering doing a clean install soon.

Love the new Safari - i've changed from Chrome back to Safari. Not sure why people are saying it isn't as smooth as Chrome.

Notification center is pretty cool and the ability to tweet and Facebook from it is neat. Hope the Facebook/Twitter integration is improved so I can receive 'actual' notifications from each service.

njp
Jul 29, 2012, 11:01 AM
To be honest I haven't really noticed any major difference, except that they changed the screensavers and that I had to install xcode to get svn back (which I am using for document synchronization between machines).

Gamecenter and notification center only work for shop apps (right?), so these won't be much good for me - especially games, since I use Steam almost exclusively for game purchases.

I also didn't like that they moved software upgrades to the store. I mean I see the logic behind it, but the store seems to take much longer than the old stand-alone application. Of course that might be load issues due to the ML launch, but anyway, no biggie.

On the other hand I also haven't had any issues with ML, so I am really neutral on it.

iThinkergoiMac
Jul 29, 2012, 11:08 AM
So far ML is going great for me. My MBP is definitely faster and just about all my software still works.

dr.george
Jul 29, 2012, 11:12 AM
My problem is a heavy battery drain. After 30-45 minutes I only have 66% left... Other problem is the behavior of my fan again. It's always on and my MBA13 is getting hot.

Anyone else with these problems?

Same here, heavy battery drain..

Everything else OK, in fact ML feels faster..

concernedone
Jul 29, 2012, 04:37 PM
To complain bitterly about these things is pure nitpicking. At least the people who are having problems with stability, wireless connectivity, etc. have actual problems.





No, no you're right. It's not right to complain but it's fun ;). No, I don't own any windows phones iphones and ipads here. Although windows phone's metro design is really clean and unique. Android have some really nice functionalities too. iOS is simple but the design is ok. However, you should try out windows 7. I love it personally for work :). It's really good for accessing files if you're a graphic designer. Yea, I'm having issues with stability ML crashed my whole system :( that's why I was complain-y. so yea.

NewAnger
Jul 29, 2012, 05:07 PM
Been using it since the GM and haven't wanted to go back to Lion. Using it on a 2010 MB.

iwan073
Jul 29, 2012, 06:53 PM
I think ML is worth the €15,99.

Love the facebook and Twitter integration. I like the Notifications, although I don't open the list to see if I got new messages or something. I just look at my dock for that.

Safari 6 made me leave Chrome. At least for now.

The dock looks pretty sweet.

Still don't like iCloud that much.

28Gauge
Jul 29, 2012, 07:11 PM
For the price, I would have to say that I am pleased. I'm not happy with some of the broken apps because of the new OS, but that is to be expected.

Carl Sagan
Jul 29, 2012, 07:12 PM
Yup 14 quid is a very nice price for an OS that's added some great new features and made my aging machine as snappy as the first day I got it!

ntrigue
Jul 29, 2012, 07:15 PM
I was just having an excellent experience when I saw this thread!

I'm personally satisfied with Mountain Lion.

- My Mac feels smoother and nicer to use, the new dock is beautiful.

- Safari 6 made me leave Google Chrome.

- Notification Center is working great.

- I now use Notes + Reminder.

- Dictation is a useful new feature.

- AirPlay is incredible and I use it frequently!



Overall I think it's worth the update, even considering the low price.

dickdaney
Jul 29, 2012, 07:54 PM
I'm happy with everything except AirPlay. Its a little too slow and laggy. So I just went back to using the mini display to hdmi connector for my tv

Carl Sagan
Jul 29, 2012, 07:55 PM
Yup started using Reminders and Notes now too, never did before but iCloud sync is so effortless it's hard not too.

BPeter
Jul 29, 2012, 08:06 PM
[...]
Unless you are REALLY dependent on iOS and iCloud integration, ML is absolutely useless and irrelevant as an OS X update.
[...]


Well, the MAIN reason I switched from trusty Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion was precisely the iOS/iCloud integration. I also own iPhone and IPad, and I find the omnipresence of documents/photos/notes/(whatnot) on all my devices thanks to iCloud a real game-changer. The integration may still not be perfect but the whole idea is paradigm-shifting when it comes to modern computing.

When the iPod and iTunes store were introduced, many rejected the idea and said that it will never work (economically speaking) ... but it really changed the way people purchased music, books, movies.

When the first iPhone was introduced to the market it was ridiculed ... and it took few years for the competition to start catching up (Android).

When iPad was introduced, many said iOS was not a real operating system (and they were right) .... but it didn't matter because the game was no longer about operating systems or CPU's GHz, memory MB, etc. Three years later the competition still tries to claw their way back and grab a share of the market but their success is limited because they still think about developing the "best" hardware and the "best" OS (and their machines are truly awesome - but it no longer matters...) while Apple's focus is on delivering functionality (the App store being an important part of the eco-system).

I think the iCloud is the next logical step for Apple. ICloud goes beyond simple storage-share. I still have difficulty grasping the significance of the new approach but, after experiencing the iCloud first-hand, I think it has tremendous future. I guess we'll see in few years how successfull the iCloud will be. But considering Apple's record when it comes to developing new technology, I think they may be really onto something really big.

Just my $0.02 worth...

fins831
Jul 29, 2012, 08:07 PM
I love safari, the only thing faster is firefox aurora and thats in beta....but I find myself missing the ability to quickly email/tweet articles I find.

I love the notification center and the dictation...just a great user experience.

I have noticed a laptop battery drain, I will prob buy a new 13 inch retina if they release it around X-mas, otherwise, I am very thrilled with this release, and hope it keeps getting better with tweaks...

I hope i can keep my laptop chugging along til next year, but I doubt it..700 cycles and counting.

ixodes
Jul 29, 2012, 08:10 PM
I honestly think Lion and now ML are the worst iterations of OS X to date. Mind you, I've been using Macs since and LC with OS 7. The greyscale icons, the lack of any color in the menu bars or Finder sidebar seems to me like a huge step backwards, not to mention simply boring. At the very least, let ME decide whether to have color or not in a preference tab that should be integrated into a single pref pane. Also, the Documents folder lacked the ability to sort by clicking at the top. Stupid UI features carry over, like the Finder prefs and View options. iCloud offers me nothing I really need and i resent Apple requiring Lion or ML in order to use iCloud and basic features like Back to my Mac. I used that feature in SL to support various relatives Mac's scattered across the US. Most of SL and one has Lion. There is no technical reason for this, just a marketing push by Apple. The one other MobileMe ( .Mac) feature I used was iDisk, thats gone now too.

I upgraded on the first day and today, I went back to Snow Leopard, which will likely be considered the last of a fine breed. My MBP and 27" i5 iMac with ML became slow, lots of spinning beach balls and both had Wifi issues that didn't exist before. I don't like Safari's integrated address and search field nor its sluggishness and total failure to load some sites. The new Safari is a weak attempt by Apple and doesnt really compare with more robust browsers like FF and Chrome.

Overall, the OS was not impressive and offered me no functionality enhancements that I needed. I'm back to Snow Leopard and probably here to stay.
It's very nice to read an honest report from someone with lots of Mac experience.

I began with System 7, on a PowerBook 170. Each & every year, or refresh since then has been one I could always count on having at least one or two significant improvements.

All was well till Lion, the first "upgrade" that didn't feel like one. Being Apples Vista, I hoped for more with Mountain Lion, to no avail. What improvements are in ML are focused on iOS & it's influence with OS X as Apple continues to head towards complete convergence.

Sadly I see no letting up on the dilution of OS X in the interest of making it a mirror of iOS, so as to draw in more beginners. iToyz is a proper moniker for iDevices, one that means big bucks for Apple. It seems as though they are happy to lose their loyal, longstanding computer users in favor of those who buy into the simplicity of iDevices & the ease of a closed, locked down Eco-system.

I'm going to continue to enjoy SL 10.6.8 while it lasts.

ntrigue
Jul 29, 2012, 08:13 PM
It inspires me to use:

Reminders instead of OmniFocus
Notes instead of Evernote
Safari instead of Chrome
Airplay instead of an HDMI cable
Air for Messages instead of iPhone
Password instead of 1Password

sidewinder
Jul 29, 2012, 08:15 PM
It's very nice to read an honest report from someone with lots of Mac experience.

I began with System 7, on a PowerBook 170. Each & every year, or refresh since then has been one I could always count on having at least one or two significant improvements.

All was well till Lion, the first "upgrade" that didn't feel like one. Being Apples Vista, I hoped for more with Mountain Lion, to no avail. What improvements are in ML are focused on iOS & it's influence with OS X as Apple continues to head towards complete convergence.

Sadly I see no letting up on the dilution of OS X in the interest of making it a mirror of iOS, so as to draw in more beginners. iToyz is a proper moniker for iDevices, one that means big bucks for Apple. It seems as though they are happy to lose their loyal, longstanding computer users in favor of those who buy into the simplicity of iDevices & the ease of a closed, locked down Eco-system.

I'm going to continue to enjoy SL 10.6.8 while it lasts.

I started out on a Mac in early January of 1984. I disagree with both you and Markovich.

Apple's Vista? Hardly.....


S-

ixodes
Jul 29, 2012, 08:34 PM
I started out on a Mac in early January of 1984. I disagree with both you and Markovich.

Apple's Vista? Hardly.....

S-
Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Instead of hurling insults & leaving with nothing said, do you have the courage to state your opinion? Do you have the ability to have a discussion, or are you just a rock thrower?

sidewinder
Jul 29, 2012, 08:47 PM
Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Instead of hurling insults & leaving with nothing said, do you have the courage to state your opinion? Do you have the ability to have a discussion, or are you just a rock thrower?

Do you know what "ignorance" means? It means "lack of knowledge". It's not an insult.

iPhones and iPads may be toys to that poster, but there are millions of people across America and the world using them to be quite productive, both personally and for work. That poster was showing ignorance by categorizing a family of products as toys just because he has no use for them.

S-

Action
Jul 29, 2012, 08:59 PM
It inspires me to use:

Reminders instead of OmniFocus
Notes instead of Evernote
Safari instead of Chrome
Airplay instead of an HDMI cable
Air for Messages instead of iPhone
Password instead of 1Password

Password instead of 1Password? What is "Password"?

concernedone
Jul 29, 2012, 09:45 PM
Do you know what "ignorance" means? It means "lack of knowledge". It's not an insult.

iPhones and iPads may be toys to that poster, but there are millions of people across America using them to be quite productive, both personally and for work. That poster was showing ignorance by categorizing a family of products as toys just because he has no use for them.

S-

Lol yes calling someone ignorant is an insult. No one wants to be ignorant! I really don't think you both lack experience or knowledge- both of you have diff experiences and knowledge Ofc. It's just a difference of opinion. I find that Mac rumor user tends to shoot down people of a different opinion especially towards the OS or iOS. If anyone experiences a problem with the OS it's user related- or lack of knowledge. Oh no its never the OS!-- unless shown with a screenshot proof. :rolleyes:

Yes iPhone and iPad can be productive and i like my iphone and ipad a lot! but everyone uses it different. Some ppl only use it for games and content consumption which is what it excels in.

Also how can apple improve their OS if no one voice a diff opinion?

williamdlc
Jul 29, 2012, 09:52 PM
I have a question for Mountain Lion users, does the battery life take a significant hit? I was on Lion before, and battery life was much lower compared to SL, which is why I returned to SL.

MassiveAttack
Jul 29, 2012, 09:55 PM
For the most I'm happy with Mountain Lion
What I like:
Notification center
Messages
Voice dictation
My MBP doesn't overheat like it used to with Lion
Smoother over all experience
Safari is blazing fast (when it doesn't crash)

What I don't like:
Safari crashes at times and I have to restart it
Don't like the new dock, hard to see what apps are open
Some multi touch gestures don't work at times (have to reboot)

Overall I'm happy but would like to see Apple address these bugs and bring out an update ASAP. I'm a little shocked that it has the issues that it has. Oh well, can't complain it only cost $20 which is a bargin.

nanosour
Jul 29, 2012, 10:04 PM
OK...I bit the bullet against my better judgment and installed ML on my three iMacs. After a day of use and testing, I have to say I think it's a pretty good upgrade with some useful features. I specifically like Notifications & Dictation. Don't have any use for airplay yet as I'm still on gen one :apple:TV. I'm sure I'll find it useful when I get the current :apple:TV.

Upgrade went flawlessly smooth on all three computers and all three appear to be running very stable and fast.

My only complaints are the dock. (don't like the new active lights) and the fact I had to upgrade from Parallels 5 to Parallels 7 for $50.

Overall very happy with ML.


Nano

Stewahn
Jul 30, 2012, 06:09 AM
when I upgraded from SL to Lion both programs Preview and Textedit crashed right after I started them. Since I did not use them that often it did not bother me much. Now I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion the two new features such as reminder and notes have the same issue and most unfortunate: MAIL CRASHES after starting the prog. Sorry fanboys, but I am pretty pissed now. Cant wait to get in touch with the support hotline tonight...
Do you guys have the same issues?

haruhiko
Jul 30, 2012, 06:30 AM
very satisfied. ML is what Lion should have been last year.

I'm so far very happy with the OS!

Kebabselector
Jul 30, 2012, 07:00 AM
Not really had a chance to do too much testing but:

It takes a long time to boot up

When running Lightroom and CS6 together it's a lot hotter and noisier than last week (on Lion)

Is quite sluggish

Firefox runs badly (Safari is great though - I'll probably use it in place of Firefox)

iPhoto is just utter crap (mind you it was beforehand so probably nothing to do with Mountain Lion ;) )

Tempted to do a clean reinstall - when time permits.

Stonefly
Jul 30, 2012, 07:12 AM
Tried ML for 4 days and had a few problems.

- Safari crashes when clicking on safari extensions
- My CPU fan is usually in the 3000+ rpm when just surfing the net or doing other light tasks
- System is slower than it was with Lion
- Graphics benchmark is half of what it was with Lion
- getting a lot of beach balls when transferring files to usb or network drives


I have only been using macs since late 2009 so am no pro but in the few days I've used it I didn't find it worth the upgrade. Used time machine and went back to Lion for now. Will try it again after 10.8.2 or so. Frankly if SL had iCloud I would go back to that and stay there. Here is my benchmark tests for both OS. First is Lion the second is ML.

350633

350632

throAU
Jul 30, 2012, 07:14 AM
I am happy. Safari is a lot better (couple of graphical glitches no doubt will fix in a patch).

Performance in general is much improved.


I got it as part of the developer program, but I would have paid 20 bucks for the performance improvement alone, personally.

alFR
Jul 30, 2012, 07:24 AM
I was afraid for that, even with Steve Jobs always claiming he wasn't in it for the money. Shame on you Apple :(

A company wanting to make a profit? Unacceptable!

iceman46
Jul 30, 2012, 07:30 AM
Mountain Lion is GREAT for me. Performance is ALOT better than Lion!!
I allso like all those new gadgets and sspecially SAFARI!

I think all you people are just having too much time to be smart. Why did you buy it then if its not good?!?!? ML is doing all Apple promised!

RoelJuun
Jul 30, 2012, 07:49 AM
I truly miss the Safari Activity Window. Why removing it, I just don't get it…

Other than that, I'm all happy with ML.

gnipun
Jul 30, 2012, 09:16 AM
The only thing I miss is the old all-windows expose+spaces.
Other that that, I find ML to be a very good OS.

iMacFarlane
Jul 30, 2012, 09:25 AM
Everything runs faster and smoother. Load times are reduced, very little beach-balling, and I like the multi-touch trackpad mission-control/expose gestures.

Mail runs much better than under Lion.

As much as I disliked Lion, Mountain Lion looks to be markedly improved!

Roofy.
Jul 30, 2012, 10:00 AM
definitely. My mac runs alot better now, and the icloud integration seems to be only getting better each day. iMessages has been working better now than the day I got ML.

omega369
Jul 30, 2012, 12:13 PM
I have always loved OSX for its snappy interface but Lion and Mountain Lion have really disappointed - In particular, its performance with multiple desktops a la mission control (what used to be spaces).
The desktop switching animations and the increased time it takes to change focus between programs are killing my workflow (mountain lion being considerably worse than lion).
Apple at the very least should include options to turn off animations!
We shouldn't be waiting for OS user interfaces in this era of computers!!
I'm running mountain lion on a mid-2012 MBP. 2.66 GHz i7. 8 GB ram, NVIDIA 330M - 512MB, with Intel SSD.

50548
Jul 30, 2012, 12:25 PM
I have always loved OSX for its snappy interface but Lion and Mountain Lion have really disappointed - In particular, its performance with multiple desktops a la mission control (what used to be spaces).
The desktop switching animations and the increased time it takes to change focus between programs are killing my workflow (mountain lion being considerably worse than lion).
Apple at the very least should include options to turn off animations!
We shouldn't be waiting for OS user interfaces in this era of computers!!
I'm running mountain lion on a mid-2012 MBP. 2.66 GHz i7. 8 GB ram, NVIDIA 330M - 512MB, with Intel SSD.

That ML sucks we all know by now...but why don't you try Onyx? It should be able to deactivate such animations, or not?

wolfpackfan
Jul 30, 2012, 12:32 PM
I am very happy with ML. It was well worth the $20 upgrade cost. I especially like the integration with Documents in the Cloud. I now have all my Pages and Numbers files as well as my PDF files stored out on iCloud and accessible on my iPad and iPhone. I've been doing a lot of updates to various Number files on my iPad and it's nice to see those changes reflected immediately on my Mac. I also like having Notes and Reminders available on my Mac. I've been using Notes heavily. Safari seems snappier in ML also. Overall I'm very pleased with ML.

EBreakingWave
Jul 30, 2012, 01:15 PM
I like it! :D

The only thing that bugs me is before updating I was using SL and had the ability to open apps automatically in their own space.
It doesn't seem to do it in ML, does anyone have any suggestions? :)

Simbazz
Jul 30, 2012, 01:43 PM
I've got a mid-2010 Macbook Pro, is it me, or is the battery much better? I've spent most of my afternoons since ML just lounging watching DVD's (2 weeks off work, don't judge me :p) and I'm getting a good 7 hours almost.

It could just be me because I used to have the hours/minutes displayed but obviously now its the percentage.

Overall, very impressed, can't wait till it plays nice with the iPad/iPhone with iCloud tabs etc.

jorisx
Aug 4, 2012, 07:27 PM
My problem is a heavy battery drain. After 30-45 minutes I only have 66% left... Other problem is the behavior of my fan again. It's always on and my MBA13 is getting hot.

Anyone else with these problems?

Had the same issue, bussy noisy fans.
Solved it by resetting the SMC

Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC):
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


Good luck!
J!

vkmenon
Aug 29, 2012, 05:42 PM
After loading Mountain Lion when I work on Word documents, the cursor disappears if I idle it for a few minutes

matrix07
Aug 29, 2012, 05:46 PM
I'm personally satisfied with Mountain Lion.

- My Mac feels smoother and nicer to use, the new dock is beautiful.

- Safari 6 made me leave Google Chrome.

- Notification Center is working great.

- I now use Notes + Reminder, imo they were pretty much useless before (in my case at least) because you couldn't manage your events + notes on the Mac.



Ditto. Haven't tried Dictation yet but everything else is just as good or better than Lion.
Now if they can fix a bug in Safari where you "Email this Page" but the link appear beneath your signature I'll be very happy.

32KFJ
Aug 29, 2012, 06:22 PM
I'm personally satisfied with Mountain Lion.

- My Mac feels smoother and nicer to use, the new dock is beautiful.

- Safari 6 made me leave Google Chrome.

- Notification Center is working great.

- I now use Notes + Reminder, imo they were pretty much useless before (in my case at least) because you couldn't manage your events + notes on the Mac.

- Dictation is a useful new feature, a bit annoying that it just support few languages (my native language isn't supported)

- AirPlay kinda disappointed about this, since it doesn't support my MacBook Pro (Early 2010)



Overall I think it's worth the update, even considering the low price.

Your opinion?

same here with exception the dictation function.. i don't use it really.

the only problem is battery life.

freedevil
Aug 29, 2012, 06:44 PM
I have had 3-4 kernel panics with ML on a new 2011 iMac, so no.

Badrottie
Aug 30, 2012, 03:04 AM
80% satisfied…..

NC is worthless - I don't get much tweets or new messages
iMessage - is not very properly arranged with comments/messages.
iCloud - is not very perfect yet. I get contacts/address/calendar duplication

I guess that is it :apple:

arashb
Aug 30, 2012, 03:54 AM
Very happy. But I'd love to know what does it mean when Safari is "snappy"?

snap·py
(snp)
adj. snap·pi·er, snap·pi·est
1. Informal Lively or energetic; brisk.
2. Informal Smart or chic.


My Safari is neither "lively or energetic" and not sure how it could be brisk...
Yeah it's the internet so it's smart, but it has always been smart.

I'm guessing people here don't know what snappy means?

Arizor
Aug 30, 2012, 04:28 AM
snap·py
(snp)
adj. snap·pi·er, snap·pi·est
1. Informal Lively or energetic; brisk.
2. Informal Smart or chic.


Brisk = quick, responsive.

Ice-Cube
Aug 30, 2012, 05:14 AM
Not too pleased with the new safari. Switched to firefox cos of that. The rest of the OS seems fine though.

duggram
Aug 30, 2012, 05:41 AM
Very happy. But I'd love to know what does it mean when Safari is "snappy"?

snap·py
(snp)
adj. snap·pi·er, snap·pi·est
1. Informal Lively or energetic; brisk.
2. Informal Smart or chic.

I'm guessing people here don't know what snappy means?

sanctimonious
adj. [sangk-tuh-moh-nee-uhs]
1. Making a show of being morally better than others

I installed ML late yesterday and I'm happy with how snappy everything is. Remember Windows 2.1, 3.0 and 3. where performance was described in terms of bugginess or crashing? Then as hardware and software became better it just became common sense to say that things ran snappier.

common sense
adj. com·mon·sense
1. sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts

dusk007
Aug 30, 2012, 05:45 AM
With two complete freezes and crashes in the last two days I am beginning to see the benefit of the resume feature. Totally pointless if that darn thing was stable.

In most other cases.
Performance is good for scrolling but that is about it. All else is worse or the same, a clean install might fix it when I have the time for it.
Mission control is half backed nonsense. Full screen mode is a joke in its current form.
iCloud should really be more than it is. MS is offering something better with Skydrive.
All in all I wouldn't pay for it again. If it was a free upgrade to SL I am not sure I would install it. The resume feature is neat after crashes but I would prefer there wasn't any crashes.
I like some of the GUI changes but that is about it. Like the minimalism about that. That and the terribly researched idea that iCloud is probably great was my reason for paying the 15€ and try it. I also am not the typ who like to stick with old software. I usually like good changes. I liked the Office Ribbon, and all the neat new feature Opera has come up with.

Hephaestus
Aug 30, 2012, 07:16 AM
Overall, yes I am happy with Mountain Lion. If I had to rate it I'd probably give it a solid 7/10.

Things I am happy with:

- Lovely smooth animations.
- Launchpad is fantastic.
- Mission control isn't as bad as I thought, since you can tweak expose.
- Love full screen apps!
- New dock is fantastic.
- The reminders app is very handy.
- The iCloud connectivity is so seamless, can't imagine being without it now!
- Notification centre shows good potential.
- Safari 6 is Awesome, with a capital A. That's how awesome it is.

Thing I am not happy with:

- The new calendar app looks hideous.

- iMessage is far from perfect, conversations should be merged to one user if they have an email and number under the same contact. Right now we have two separate conversations for the same person, not great. My phone also beeps off the hook when I'm conversing on my Mac, it should know I am talking on my Mac and shouldn't notify me on the phone.

- Mail seems to forget passwords sometimes which is annoying.
- Notification centre needs to be a lot more responsive.
- The App store still looks bad, it needs a new aesthetic. It looks like website.
- Quicktime seems to have become more laggy, adjusting volume during playback results in stuttering.

Thing I am REALLY not happy with:

- iPhoto is still SO slow, please fix this terrible performance!
- I know you need to sell new macs Apple, but stopping every pre-2011 mac from using Airplay was a cheap move.
- My mac has experienced a buggy crash since upgrading, and a lot of people seem to be experiencing this.

Carl Sagan
Aug 30, 2012, 09:54 AM
After over a month with it I can say on the whole I'm very happy with it, the Message issue is one area that needs real work. Everything else iCloud works beautifully but that really doesn't.

Mr. McMac
Aug 30, 2012, 10:10 AM
Since I purchased my new mac mini a few weeks ago, I've gotten 3 or 4 kernel panics when I reboot (over the course of few weeks). It's strange because the mini was running perfectly fine at the time I rebooted, and would run fine afterwards. I've done the extended hardware test a few times with no problems reported.

Is this a Mountain Lion issue?

The mini's connected via HDMI to a Samsung HDTV, an Apple Bluetooth Keyboard, and a Logitech USB Wireless mouse.

fivenotrump
Aug 30, 2012, 12:36 PM
Smooth updates on both Macs. First class O/S!

----------

I think you mean "knock on wood."

"Touch wood," implies a different connotation.

"Touch wood" is a British English idiom, and appropriate here.

SR45
Aug 30, 2012, 12:43 PM
Since I purchased my new mac mini a few weeks ago, I've gotten 3 or 4 kernel panics when I reboot (over the course of few weeks). It's strange because the mini was running perfectly fine at the time I rebooted, and would run fine afterwards. I've done the extended hardware test a few times with no problems reported.

Is this a Mountain Lion issue?

The mini's connected via HDMI to a Samsung HDTV, an Apple Bluetooth Keyboard, and a Logitech USB Wireless mouse.

MacMini 2011 > Dell U2412M connected via thunberbolt > 16 GB ram > 5400 rpm Hdd > integrated video > Apples Wired keyboard > Logitech small USB wireless mouse > Clean Install after an Update earlier, and no issues at all. All programs up to date for Lion and Mountain Lion. No fancy Extensions other than "Do Not Track Plus" and "Ad Block"

DaKKs
Aug 30, 2012, 12:45 PM
Aside from the horrible iOS-ification, I'd say that ML is well on its way to be the next step after Snow Leopard. Lion was a clusterfrak that should've never seen the light of day.

Elven
Aug 30, 2012, 12:47 PM
Very suited, being a more recent Mac convert ( SL ) ML is a good step forward, Lion always felt a little "in-between worlds" were ML is much more focussed.

Wish I could word it better, may do a blog about it sometime.:apple::rolleyes:

Mr. McMac
Aug 30, 2012, 12:59 PM
MacMini 2011 > Dell U2412M connected via thunberbolt > 16 GB ram > 5400 rpm Hdd > integrated video > Apples Wired keyboard > Logitech small USB wireless mouse > Clean Install after an Update earlier, and no issues at all. All programs up to date for Lion and Mountain Lion. No fancy Extensions other than "Do Not Track Plus" and "Ad Block"

I called tech support and they told me to do a safe boot which would clear out the cache, etc. So far so good. I might try a wired keyboard instead of bluetooth. Lets see what happens. My '09 iMac hasn't had a problem even though I didn't do a clean install.(wired keyboard) The Mini had a clean install, kind of strange really. I'll keep you posted :)

Carl Sagan
Aug 30, 2012, 04:39 PM
Aside from the horrible iOS-ification, I'd say that ML is well on its way to be the next step after Snow Leopard. Lion was a clusterfrak that should've never seen the light of day.

A couple apps and notification centre is hardly iOS-indication, get a grip!

mabaker
Aug 30, 2012, 04:51 PM
iMac 2009 with 4850 graphic card. ML works flawlessly. Wish they brought Bluetooth texting back from Tiger, though.

SR45
Aug 30, 2012, 06:09 PM
I called tech support and they told me to do a safe boot which would clear out the cache, etc. So far so good. I might try a wired keyboard instead of bluetooth. Lets see what happens. My '09 iMac hasn't had a problem even though I didn't do a clean install.(wired keyboard) The Mini had a clean install, kind of strange really. I'll keep you posted :)

Please do and good luck. Some times I do a clean install with a new OS, just to get the old code off. I than install one program at a time to make sure that works, specially if the software is of the older version.

bartonlynch
Aug 30, 2012, 06:49 PM
Love it.

TheSniper
Mar 5, 2013, 12:19 PM
All, I do not think one can easily answer yes or no to this question.
For me Im pretty happy with all of the Apple products in general and overall.
I was born into the MS world and free'd by apple. now this being said.
does not mean I despise MS or think Apple is the end all of O/S's

For example, One thing I now dislike but use to like:
PRE Lion Those of us who had multi screen setups. using full screen mode was
very nice. until Lion and then ML. now Full Screen mode? renders the secondary or 3rd monitor USELESS! this has been the case for some time now with no
solution on the horizon.

If I premised my answer on this one fact. I would HATE the new Lion/ML.

Narrow vision causes narrow solutions.(choose wisely)

Go Apple!

jackgreenfield
Mar 6, 2013, 01:09 PM
I've been sticking with Snow Leopard all of this time. Skipping Lion was a no-brainer, but it seems like ML has worked out some of the kinks, so I may take the plunge soon. Or should I just wait for 10.9??

The Bulge
Mar 6, 2013, 01:25 PM
Pretty happy with Moutain Lion.

WSR
Mar 6, 2013, 03:10 PM
I'm sticking with SL.
The loss of Downgrading of Expose and Spaces, and ML's Full-Screen mode with multiple monitors are deal-breakers for me.

Other problems for me with ML are the loss of "Save As..." and "Do You Want to Save?", and limited control over Resume, Versions or AutoSave.

pionata
Mar 7, 2013, 08:44 AM
No, I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard about 1 year ago. I think Mountain lion is crap. It intentionally slows down Macs built before 2010, even if they're quads with 16 gigs of ram, the open GL drivers are bad - it's now impossible to play a game on one screen and watch a movie on the other, they've messed up expose and replaced it with a ****** application called mission control, they've removed the immensely practical scroll arrows... And stuff just crash 3 times more often.

Apple is becoming what I've always hated about Microsoft: a cash grabbing enterprise.

MJL
Mar 8, 2013, 01:59 PM
.....Apple is becoming what I've always hated about Microsoft: a cash grabbing enterprise.

What else did you expect with Steve Jobs gone and the shareholders running the show?

thestickman
Mar 8, 2013, 08:28 PM
I wish SL would run on my Mini....not a fan of ML.

Attonine
Mar 8, 2013, 08:32 PM
I'm Ok with ML. Only problem has been constant crashing of Safari.

spiderman0616
Mar 9, 2013, 06:48 PM
I came from Windows, so the answer for me is: Yes. Very much so.

I've been using Windows for about 15 years now, so for me, Mountain Lion was a breath of fresh air. I've seen some people here say that they don't understand why people hate Windows so much after moving to Mac. For me, there are 3 reasons.

1. Integration. I love the way it integrates with my iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV. I love that iMessage and iCloud in general are now baked right into the OS, as my wife are daily iCloud users.

2. Maintenance. I don't feel like I really have to do any. I moved all my media backups over, set up Time Machine on an external drive, and within an hour or two, I was USING my new Mac, not setting it up or learning how to do stuff. I'm not running any 3rd party security software, and the OS is running like new 5 months after I first booted up. I cannot say the same thing for Windows. Even Windows 7 started running slower after a few months, and that's with me barely messing with it at all.

3. Ease of use. This kind of goes back to #2 I guess. I am very comfortable in Windows and know how to accomplish whatever needs to be done. But I feel like on OSX, I just fly through everything. It's less clunky, less cluttered, and more stable. I love the feeling of using my computer instead of tricking my computer into doing what I want it to do.

So needless to say, I am beyond pleased with Mountain Lion. I'm on a late 2012 model Mac Mini, and I'm 100% thrilled with it. I use it with our large HDTV as well as with my workstation I have set up at my desk when needed. I am still on my iPad or iPhone most of the time, but when I'm home and have the time, I still being on my full blown computer instead of a mobile device.

Eithanius
Mar 10, 2013, 12:13 PM
I came from Windows, so the answer for me is: Yes. Very much so.


I believe this thread started off with the OP upgraded from a previous Mac OS X release and asked of the opinions of others whether are they satisfied with the current Mountain Lion release compared to previous versions...

Windoze is a totally different league altogether, and even if given a crappy LION (not Mountain Lion) to a switcher, (s)he will say a big YES... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

SpyderBite
Mar 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
Love it. Great iOS integration and performance boosts.

I think people who say otherwise:

1: Hate change
2: Run antiquated software
3. Don't rely on an iCloud ecosystem

WSR
Mar 10, 2013, 01:43 PM
Love it. Great iOS integration and performance boosts.

I think people who say otherwise:

1: Hate change
2: Run antiquated software
3. Don't rely on an iCloud ecosystem

4. Actually used their computers to the fullest by using Spaces/Expose in SL.
5. Have multiple-monitors and want to a Full-Screen mode that doesn't make the extra monitor's nearly useless.
6. Want more control over Resume, Versions or AutoSave instead of Apple forcing us into only one mode.
7. See the advantages of "Save As..." and "Do you want to Save?" over Versions.
8. Overall want's Apple to give all of us the choice to use the Mac in the way that work better for us wether it new or old. We aren't talking about Apple removing features that virtually no one used.