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UTstudent2016
Aug 2, 2012, 05:45 PM
Hello! I am looking at buying a MacBook for college. I am having a hard time deciding between a 13" MacBook Pro and a 13" MacBook Air. The Air is lighter and better for portability around campus, but the Pro has a built in disk drive along with a bigger hard drive. I have asked many people which one they think would be a better option for me and I have gotten conflicting answers. So my question is, should I get a MacBook Air or a MacBook Pro?

Just a little information on what I will be using it for:

I am a business major and I will have to run Access for Windows on it for some of my classes. Other than that, I am an average user. I will be using my computer for emails, Internet, research, word documents, excel, and powerpoint.

Thanks!



Purple2012
Aug 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
I got an Air and I'm happy with my decision. I don't need a lot of disk space, and I can't remember the last time I had to use a disk drive.

There is a remote disk drive feature. I don't really know much about it, just that you can somehow access the disk drive of any PC or Mac with it that's on the same network.

There's always bootcamp.

Anoxy
Aug 2, 2012, 06:41 PM
I've been considering pulling the trigger on a fully loaded 13" MBA, but I'm worried that they might release a retina display version soon.

stchman
Aug 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
What's you budget?

UTstudent2016
Aug 2, 2012, 11:21 PM
I am looking to spend under 1,300 dollars if possible……which both the 13" Pro and 13" Air fall under…

mrs1986
Aug 2, 2012, 11:35 PM
I am looking to spend under 1,300 dollars if possible……which both the 13" Pro and 13" Air fall under…

Just get the Air, is a better bet as it already comes with a SSD and an external disc burner is like 25 if you REALLY need it... Air base or air with 8gb and you are good to go...

GREEN4U
Aug 2, 2012, 11:45 PM
The 13" Macbook Pro is the worst computer in the Apple lineup right now, IMO. Low res, heavy. The ONLY reason one should get it is if they need a SuperDrive daily.

Get the Air.

Slivortal
Aug 2, 2012, 11:48 PM
The 13" Macbook Pro is the worst computer in the Apple lineup right now, IMO. Low res, heavy. The ONLY reason one should get it is if they need a SuperDrive daily.

Get the Air.

This. Not to mention the SSD in the MBA will spin circles (oh, the puns!) around the HDD in the MBP.

Honestly, the MBPs have a weird place in the Apple lineup right now. The 13" is almost completely eclipsed by its MBA counterpart, and the 15" has a pretty hard time fighting its Retina counterpart (although a price-based comparison could be made here).

Regardless, MBA is the right choice here.

Lunchb0x8
Aug 2, 2012, 11:51 PM
Honestly, I would get the Air, but I dunno, depends how comfortable you are, but I prefer the 11 to the 13.

I have large hands, and moderate eyesight without my glasses, but the 11 is still great for me to use.

If you need a optical disc drive, I would just get a USB superdrive or another company's USB DVD/BD drive.

I am looking at getting a blu-ray drive for my Air, but am thinking I am better to get one for my PC and use the PC for ripping BDs to my itunes library...

jacob-07
Aug 3, 2012, 01:57 AM
i say go with the air, i went from a 13" pro to a 13" air and never regretted that decision. the 13" mbp just seems really outdated when compared to the air.

Panini
Aug 3, 2012, 02:37 AM
Don't know why people even get the Pro - it really only has one advantage: More storage.

BUT

That's not really an advantage since it has inferior (non-SSD) storage. Configure a 13" pro with a 128gb SSD and it suddenly becomes a lot more expensive.

Also, there WILL NOT be a 13" retina display laptop in perhaps the next year. I've made quite a few posts about why it's not possible, but it simply isn't - so don't hope for that.

The Air is better in pretty much every way - go for it.

SlickShoes
Aug 3, 2012, 03:28 AM
Yep right now the 2012 Air is a better buy than a 13" pro.

It will be interesting to see where they take the pro in its next update, I am waiting on that happening before I pull the trigger and get myself a nicely specced 13" air, but if I had to choose based on the two models available right now the air wins hands down.

UTstudent2016
Aug 3, 2012, 09:04 AM
Thank you all for you comments! Definitely helped me in making a decision! I just bought my Air and I am picking it up later today! My first Apple Computer! Officially converted…so excited!! :)

Louis Wu
Aug 3, 2012, 09:34 AM
Thank you all for you comments! Definitely helped me in making a decision! I just bought my Air and I am picking it up later today! My first Apple Computer! Officially converted…so excited!! :)

Congratulations, and welcome!

You won't be disappointed.

I'm writing this on a Mac Pro, but my 13" MBA is sitting beside me.

You do know that once you buy one, it's hard to stop, don't you?

railto
Aug 3, 2012, 10:16 AM
I am getting my next macbook this weekend and will most likely be a 13" model, Im just struggling between either an Air or Pro.

Background, Im a Freelance IT Consultant and do alot of work on windows systems, so will need to run a windows VM on it a fair bit of the time as well as day to day use of apple apps. This will be my main machine for home as well.

Kinda leaning towards the pro cause of better processor and larger HDD, but I know that the HDD in the air is faster cause of being SSD.

UTstudent2016
Aug 3, 2012, 01:52 PM
Congratulations, and welcome!

You won't be disappointed.

I'm writing this on a Mac Pro, but my 13" MBA is sitting beside me.

You do know that once you buy one, it's hard to stop, don't you?


Thanks! I am so excited to go pick it up! I have had PCs all my life, but I decided to go with a MacBook Air....I hope I like it!

Ohhhhh, and I know, I got an iPad about a year ago, and that is what led me to getting a MacBook...

SlickShoes
Aug 3, 2012, 02:13 PM
I am getting my next macbook this weekend and will most likely be a 13" model, Im just struggling between either an Air or Pro.

Background, Im a Freelance IT Consultant and do alot of work on windows systems, so will need to run a windows VM on it a fair bit of the time as well as day to day use of apple apps. This will be my main machine for home as well.

Kinda leaning towards the pro cause of better processor and larger HDD, but I know that the HDD in the air is faster cause of being SSD.

If I were you I would hold out as long as you can to see if the 13" pro gets an update in sept/october, I really want a smaller laptop again (currently have 15" 2011 pro) was going to pull the trigger on the loaded 13" air but just couldn't with the possibility of a 13" pro retina update rumoured to be happening this year.

railto
Aug 7, 2012, 07:27 AM
If I were you I would hold out as long as you can to see if the 13" pro gets an update in sept/october, I really want a smaller laptop again (currently have 15" 2011 pro) was going to pull the trigger on the loaded 13" air but just couldn't with the possibility of a 13" pro retina update rumoured to be happening this year.

I dont see a 13" rMBP coming anytime soon.

Went out on Sunday evening to get me a 13" air, but reseller i went to didnt have it, so ended up getting a pro instead. So happy with it, runs like a dream and is much lighter than previous mac i was using.

Just installed windows on parallels and performance is near native, unreal.

Rockoar
Aug 7, 2012, 08:49 AM
I was in the same boat you are and just right now pulled the trigger and bought a baseline 13'' MBP. I think the MBP gives you more "bang for the buck". 128GB SSD is way too little for me and I'm nowhere near willing to pay like 1600€ for a maxed-out 13'' MBA.

For just 1200 dollars you can get the 13'' MBP and later on update both the RAM and the HDD and even swap the superdrive for a new HDD/SSD. If 1kg makes that much difference to you, and if you can get by with just 128GB v/s 500GB then go with the Air.

railto
Aug 7, 2012, 08:56 AM
I have already upped mine to 8gb ram, that i had in a different system. I plan at some stage to change out the HDD for an SSD, once the price comes down a bit, but all depends on how much can get one for.

iMacFarlane
Aug 7, 2012, 09:17 AM
I was in the same boat you are and just right now pulled the trigger and bought a baseline 13'' MBP. I think the MBP gives you more "bang for the buck". 128GB SSD is way too little for me and I'm nowhere near willing to pay like 1600€ for a maxed-out 13'' MBA.

For just 1200 dollars you can get the 13'' MBP and later on update both the RAM and the HDD and even swap the superdrive for a new HDD/SSD. If 1kg makes that much difference to you, and if you can get by with just 128GB v/s 500GB then go with the Air.

^This. I bought my 13" MBP a few weeks back. The Air just seemed 'less'. The MBP is solid, sturdy. 128GB is simply not enough. No ODD. Lower resolution on same screen size means bigger text (good). For $1199, the 13" MBP is a great buy, and I do plan on more RAM and maybe SSD once prices come down.

urkel
Aug 7, 2012, 09:20 AM
The 13" Macbook Pro is the worst computer in the Apple lineup right now, IMO. Low res, heavy. The ONLY reason one should get it is if they need a SuperDrive daily.

Get the Air.
I have zero use for a SuperDrive but I just returned my MBA in favor of a MBP13 anyway Primary because of Upgradeability (and that I Travel more with my iPad than my Mac). With my MBP I replaced the primary HDD with a 128GB Crucial m4 SSD and 8GB RAM and then replaced the superdrive with a hard drive caddy which gave me another 750GB internal.

With the Air your machine is stuck with the config you create on day one which means overpaying for spec upgrades or hitting a storage/performance wall down the road. But as SSD prices continue to fall then the life of this machine will be drastically improved simply by doing inexpensive upgrades.

I'm not saying this is any way better than an Air because I will be tempted to buy one again when the retina versions come out. BUT, I feel people are dismissing the benefits of user Upgradeability way too easily.

Tobias Funke
Aug 7, 2012, 09:29 AM
I disagree with most of the comments on here about the MBP.

I just got a brand new late 2011 MBP when the new ones came out saving 15%.

I got ML free.

Added a 256 GB sata 3 Samsung SSD.

Added 8 GB of memory.

I still have a ODD. (Unlike some people I use this daily)

I have a far more powerful machine all for £450 less than the MBA with similar (lower) spec!

Plus I can swap and change HD's to my hearts content because the 2011 13 inch MBP has twin sata 3 set up.
(Unlike the 2012 models!!)

And if I had gone with the 512GB SSD this would have been £700 cheaper than the air with similar spec !!!! :eek:

Plus MBP's hold there value better than MBA's.

Very happy with my purchase. :D

Acorn
Aug 7, 2012, 09:45 AM
congrats on your new air. I have a macbook pro and a macbook air and after owning an air i will only buy airs from this time forward. im so done with the macbook pros.

Calot
Aug 7, 2012, 10:34 AM
I've been considering pulling the trigger on a fully loaded 13" MBA, but I'm worried that they might release a retina display version soon.

IF they release a Retina MBA, it will be like the rMBP. More expensive, and different. I can not be more happy with my 13"/i7/8gb/256gb.

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I disagree with most of the comments on here about the MBP.

I just got a brand new late 2011 MBP when the new ones came out saving 15%.

I got ML free.

Added a 256 GB sata 3 Samsung SSD.

Added 8 GB of memory.

I still have a ODD. (Unlike some people I use this daily)

I have a far more powerful machine all for £450 less than the MBA with similar (lower) spec!

Plus I can swap and change HD's to my hearts content because the 2011 13 inch MBP has twin sata 3 set up.
(Unlike the 2012 models!!)

And if I had gone with the 512GB SSD this would have been £700 cheaper than the air with similar spec !!!! :eek:

Plus MBP's hold there value better than MBA's.

Very happy with my purchase. :D


It's great thay you're happy! But don't forget, you have a computer that weighs a lot more than the Air, it's fatter, lower res, and not nearly as pretty!

misterminibus
Aug 7, 2012, 10:38 AM
I hope it doesn't leave you want more...
The macbook pro does all the air does with the drive so buy the pro if you can, If your going to invest all your cash why not go for the best...

Liquinn
Aug 7, 2012, 10:40 AM
IF they release a Retina MBA, it will be like the rMBP. More expensive, and different. I can not be more happy with my 13"/i7/8gb/256gb.

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It's great thay you're happy! But don't forget, you have a computer that weighs a lot more than the Air, it's fatter, lower res, and not nearly as pretty!
I prefer the black bezel on the Pro over the silver bezel on the Air. :P

urkel
Aug 7, 2012, 12:30 PM
I prefer the black bezel on the Pro over the silver bezel on the Air. :P
Me too. But, to be honest, both the Air and Pro need a design overhaul. Even the new rMBP looks a bit outdated in design so I'd like to see some black metal used instead of the same old aluminum.

seared.ahi
Aug 7, 2012, 12:33 PM
Me too. But, to be honest, both the Air and Pro need a design overhaul. Even the new rMBP looks a bit outdated in design so I'd like to see some black metal used instead of the same old aluminum.

Ooooo that would be sexy. Gosh darn it, I just bought my MBA yesterday and now the color looks boring to me. Thanks! :mad:

kgo2o
Aug 7, 2012, 12:53 PM
I've literally just purchased my Macbook Air stepping up from an old MBP c2d 2007 model non unibody and considered the pro again but went with the air and don't regret the decision. It's a beautifully engineered machine, extremely thin, quiet and powerful enough for most of my needs. It's actually made me consider selling my iPad 3 now as it's to light and portable I don't see the need any longer for my iPad.
My opinion would be opt for the Air, I don't think you'll regret it :cool:

Tobias Funke
Aug 7, 2012, 07:21 PM
It's great thay you're happy! But don't forget, you have a computer that weighs a lot more than the Air, it's fatter, lower res, and not nearly as pretty!

All major factors in choosing a new computer! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

bartonlynch
Aug 8, 2012, 07:23 AM
The 13" Macbook Pro is the worst computer in the Apple lineup right now, IMO. Low res, heavy. The ONLY reason one should get it is if they need a SuperDrive daily.

Get the Air.

AGREED. The air is amazing. So fast, light, great screen, great battery life. I never ever use disks or the missing ports on it.
SO worth the missing things.
Even if you don't think you care about weight, you'll end up loving that part if you pick up someone else's computer. The MBPs are so heavy!

Tobias Funke
Aug 8, 2012, 08:02 AM
you have a computer that weighs a lot more than the Air.

The MBPs are so heavy!

Please!! :eek:

I have eaten chocolate bars bigger than the weight difference between 13inch MBP and MBA! :rolleyes:

osiros
Aug 11, 2012, 02:46 PM
Guys,

I'll make this quick and easy Im a Engineer at Cisco, and I used to have a 15' loaded Thinkpad, I've had the Air 13' loaded 2011 version and have never looked back. I run VMware fusion for Windows and everything else on Mountain Lion. I don't miss anything, I have a dongle for Ethernet if ever needed , and hook it up to a 27 dell monitor for when Im not traveling. There is no reason to compromise , The air is light, thin and has the power to do everything you will ever need from a student to a engineer, trust me.

NuggetSauce
Aug 11, 2012, 05:28 PM
I think it can be broken down as simple as this:

If you need the more powerful hardware of the Pro and the retina display, then get the pro.

If the air's hardware is enough for your needs, get the air, because the size, weight, battery life and price is better.

plucky duck
Aug 11, 2012, 05:42 PM
If you need the power more than portability, yet still want to lug it around, the Pro is a nice compromise. If you have a desktop for heavy work and just want a mobile counterpart, then the Air is a better solution if you don't need to rely on it for all your work.

Calot
Aug 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
All major factors in choosing a new computer! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

HECK yeah!

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Please!! :eek:

I have eaten chocolate bars bigger than the weight difference between 13inch MBP and MBA! :rolleyes:

Wow!!!! I bet your anus is extremely mad at you.