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hatersgonnahate
Aug 7, 2012, 05:59 PM
did yours improve after the mountain lion update?

i noticed mine has slowed down by 30 secs or so. starting my macbook pro (2011) takes about a minute now instead of 20-30 secs.

is this normal? sorry if this was asked before.



Prime85
Aug 7, 2012, 06:23 PM
did yours improve after the mountain lion update?

i noticed mine has slowed down by 30 secs or so. starting my macbook pro (2011) takes about a minute now instead of 20-30 secs.

is this normal? sorry if this was asked before.

Mine is about 16 Seconds which is the same as it was with lion.

Try to doing a clean install

bully worm
Aug 8, 2012, 08:12 AM
Mid 2009 mbp doing about a minute boot up and ~30sec shut down. Been like this since Lion, with clean install and all.

strukt
Aug 8, 2012, 08:20 AM
Maybe spotlight is re-indexing the drive? Just a thought...

Macman45
Aug 8, 2012, 08:27 AM
Imac: 26 seconds to useable state, although I rarely shut it down anyway.


MBA: Under 10 seconds to useable state, but SSD is why.

MBP: The slowest of all @ 32 seconds to useable state.

Overall, I can't say I've noticed any marked difference between Lion and ML. I can report that SL was faster than both though.

impulse462
Aug 8, 2012, 09:05 AM
I've noticed a speed in my boot up time, but a lag in my shutdown time w/ ML.

My boot time has decreased to 10-11 seconds from ~14 in lion. My shut down time, however, as increased. Everytime I shut down theres a white screen with a spinning black circle at the bottom. Doesn't really bother me, but it was never present in Lion.

nontroppo
Aug 8, 2012, 09:11 AM
Try using verbose boot (⌘v on startup) this shows which commands are taking time, I find it especially useful on shutdown to see which processes are causing shutdown to hang (usually Parallels!).

One annoying bug in Mountain Lion is that the shutdown_log in Console is now not being updated any more, unlike Lion where it was introduced.

xgman
Aug 8, 2012, 12:07 PM
Do these commands and then make sure your OSX drive is selected as the "startup" drive in preferences:

Rebuild kernel extension caches
Though you can use a number of maintenance utilities to clear and rebuild the kernel extensions caches, another approach is to run these commands manually in the Terminal. Doing so ensures you know exactly what commands are being run, and also allows you to customize them if needed.

First ensure the system root is owned by "root" and that the group is set to "admin" by running the following command in the Terminal:

sudo chown root:admin /

After this is done, update the prelinked kernel for the system, which will ensure that all previously used kernel extensions are quickly loaded at boot. This will grab any new kernel extensions used for added system hardware and include them when prelinking the kernel.

sudo kextcache -system-prelinked-kernel

After this command is done, rebuild the cache for the kernel extensions by running the following command:

sudo kextcache -system-caches

hatersgonnahate
Aug 8, 2012, 04:16 PM
Try using verbose boot (⌘v on startup) this shows which commands are taking time, I find it especially useful on shutdown to see which processes are causing shutdown to hang (usually Parallels!).

One annoying bug in Mountain Lion is that the shutdown_log in Console is now not being updated any more, unlike Lion where it was introduced.

thanks for the tip, but i dont wanna go that deep. :o

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Maybe spotlight is re-indexing the drive? Just a thought...

how would i know if its doing that? solution?

\-V-/
Aug 8, 2012, 04:19 PM
Lion
Boot: 10 seconds
Shutdown: 2 seconds

Mountain Lion
Boot: 7-8 seconds seconds
Shutdown: 2 seconds

Not a profound difference.


how would i know if its doing that? solution?

If you click on Spotlight at the top right of your screen, it will tell you if it's indexing anything. The solution is to either turn off indexing or let it finish.

milbournosphere
Aug 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
Upgrading from 10.6 to 10.8 slowed down boot times dramatically. I tried again with a clean install and the boot times sped right back up to where they were before.

meme1255
Aug 8, 2012, 04:36 PM
Lion
Boot: 10 seconds
Shutdown: 2 seconds

Mountain Lion
Boot: 7-8 seconds seconds
Shutdown: 2 seconds

Not a profound difference.




If you click on Spotlight at the top right of your screen, it will tell you if it's indexing anything. The solution is to either turn off indexing or let it finish.

You "forgot" to say that you have SSD :D

\-V-/
Aug 8, 2012, 04:45 PM
You "forgot" to say that you have SSD :D

Er... sorry about that. :p

x-machine
Aug 8, 2012, 04:46 PM
My Mac Mini Server, even with an SSD feels slow to boot up. I'm hoping that Mountain Lion (just bought) will help this!

My target boot drive is setup correctly etc.

hatersgonnahate
Aug 9, 2012, 01:01 PM
i guess its pretty normal.:(

ill update u guys if i find a way to speed it up a bit.:p

mwhities
Aug 9, 2012, 01:04 PM
Early '09 Mac mini 2.0Ghrz - 64G SSD - 8GB ram. Boots up to login screen in 32 seconds.

yanki01
Aug 9, 2012, 04:05 PM
Upgrading from 10.6 to 10.8 slowed down boot times dramatically. I tried again with a clean install and the boot times sped right back up to where they were before.

I didn't do a clean install but my speeds also dropped dramatically.

hatersgonnahate
Aug 10, 2012, 02:51 PM
shut down gets faster but start up remains the same

spacerays
Feb 14, 2013, 02:57 PM
Hi! I was facing the same slow shutdown issue. Tried NVRAM reset, SMC, daemon timeout change etc, didnt work.

Used verbose mode and saw that httpd and mysqld were coming up a lot during shutdown.

I had a MAMP PRO setup running those daemons at startup. Disabled them from running at startup in MAMP PRO. And voila, problem solved!

SR45
Feb 14, 2013, 05:05 PM
Hi! I was facing the same slow shutdown issue. Tried NVRAM reset, SMC, daemon timeout change etc, didnt work.

Used verbose mode and saw that httpd and mysqld were coming up a lot during shutdown.

I had a MAMP PRO setup running those daemons at startup. Disabled them from running at startup in MAMP PRO. And voila, problem solved!

Check back in a day or so and tell us if this is working... Most everyone still see same issue a few days later and no matter what we try, it does not work in the long run ;)

NJFP
Feb 15, 2013, 08:08 PM
Mid 2008 MBP. ML 10.8.2. 8GB ram. Boot up to usable, 2 MINUTES! Shut down 45 seconds.

Lion, boot up was under 45 seconds and shut down was 3 seconds.

Wife's iMac with Lion is the same, 45 seconds and 2 seconds.

If I wanted to wait this long to usable, I'd have stayed with Winders!:rolleyes:

spacerays
Feb 18, 2013, 08:33 AM
Check back in a day or so and tell us if this is working... Most everyone still see same issue a few days later and no matter what we try, it does not work in the long run ;)

Yes, the work machine on which I tried it is back to slow shutdown. I tried the daemon timeout change and stopping the apache and sql daemons on my home mac and it works.

Will be back with updates tomorrow if same works on work machine.

Brian Y
Feb 18, 2013, 08:41 AM
Mid 2008 MBP. ML 10.8.2. 8GB ram. Boot up to usable, 2 MINUTES! Shut down 45 seconds.

Lion, boot up was under 45 seconds and shut down was 3 seconds.

Wife's iMac with Lion is the same, 45 seconds and 2 seconds.

If I wanted to wait this long to usable, I'd have stayed with Winders!:rolleyes:

When did you do a clean re-install?

If you've never done a reinstall, that sounds about right for a 5 year old 5400rpm drive, with a 5 year old install thats been through multiple upgrades.

Krazy Bill
Feb 18, 2013, 09:00 AM
When did you do a clean re-install?

If you've never done a reinstall, that sounds about right for a 5 year old 5400rpm drive, with a 5 year old install thats been through multiple upgrades.You obviously haven't been following the other threads about the slow shutdown time here. There is a bug in ML.

A clean install has nothing to do with it.

trustever
Feb 18, 2013, 09:21 AM
You obviously haven't been following the other threads about the slow shutdown time here. There is a bug in ML.

A clean install has nothing to do with it.

I did not read the discussion either but hopefully we will see that sorted next year when the 10.8.3 finally will be released..

Krazy Bill
Feb 18, 2013, 09:31 AM
I did not read the discussionI know. And that's why there are so many "Do a clean install" remedies being suggested here without merit.

but hopefully we will see that sorted next year when the 10.8.3 finally will be released..I will assume sarcasm here but you may actually be right. :eek:

SR45
Feb 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
I did not read the discussion either but hopefully we will see that sorted next year when the 10.8.3 finally will be released..

10.8.3 will be out this year and possibly in a few weeks time

Brian Y
Feb 18, 2013, 10:12 AM
You obviously haven't been following the other threads about the slow shutdown time here. There is a bug in ML.

A clean install has nothing to do with it.

I was talking about the *startup* time.

trustever
Feb 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
I know. And that's why there are so many "Do a clean install" remedies being suggested here without merit.

I will assume sarcasm here but you may actually be right. :eek:

It was sarcasm, and I do hope that the 10.8.3 will fix all the bugs given the time it is taking to be finalized...

NJFP
Feb 18, 2013, 07:45 PM
When did you do a clean re-install?

If you've never done a reinstall, that sounds about right for a 5 year old 5400rpm drive, with a 5 year old install thats been through multiple upgrades.

As others have said, a clean install doesn't help ML. In Snow Leopard, and Lion, the boot and shut down speeds were crazy fast. I didn't see slow speeds until I upgraded to ML. I even added max RAM after ML upgrade. Didn't help.

My wife's is still crazy fast, and she won't let me upgrade her iMac to ML. HOPEFULLY, these speeds will be addressed in 10.8.3. One can hope, can't one??

Swiss-G
Feb 19, 2013, 08:01 AM
As others have said, a clean install doesn't help ML. In Snow Leopard, and Lion, the boot and shut down speeds were crazy fast. I didn't see slow speeds until I upgraded to ML. I even added max RAM after ML upgrade. Didn't help.

My wife's is still crazy fast, and she won't let me upgrade her iMac to ML. HOPEFULLY, these speeds will be addressed in 10.8.3. One can hope, can't one??

Have to disagree that a clean install doesn't help. I did a clean install of 10.8.2 recently and it significantly improved shutdown times.

I then installed the 10.8.3 beta's 12D58, 12D61, 12D65 and suffered shutdown problems.

The latest build 10.8.3 12D68 has for the time being solved my shutdown problems.

SR45
Feb 19, 2013, 10:32 AM
Have to disagree that a clean install doesn't help. I did a clean install of 10.8.2 recently and it significantly improved shutdown times.

I then installed the 10.8.3 beta's 12D58, 12D61, 12D65 and suffered shutdown problems.

The latest build 10.8.3 12D68 has for the time being solved my shutdown problems.

Twice I have done a complete clean install and no fix for me. Same old 20 second shut down. I also have no added software or apps installed when doing the testing. With 16 GB of ram. From time to time I would get a 3 second shut down, but that would be rare...... :(