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LIVEFRMNYC
Aug 7, 2012, 09:45 PM
I've seen several users that stated they switched from iPhone to an Android, but still have the iPad cause they consider it the best tablet. I'm just curious as to why some of you feel that way, being that iPhone & iPad run iOS.

Is the screen the major factor in switching to an Android phone, which doesn't apply to tablets? Or other reasons?

I'm also asking this cause I hear one on the main reasons for switching from iPhone is some got bored or lack of features. But many of those same ones are still praising the iPad as the best. It's basically the same thing with bigger screen, so I don't get the reason behind this.

Me personally, I'm the opposite. Still not bored of my iP4 but I get bored of tablets quickly. Already went thru 3 Android tablets(still have one), a BB Playbook and still have a iPad2.



Mac.World
Aug 7, 2012, 09:53 PM
I've seen several users that stated they switched from iPhone to an Android, but still have the iPad cause they consider it the best tablet. I'm just curious as to why some of you feel that way, being that iPhone & iPad run iOS.

Is the screen the major factor in switching to an Android phone, which doesn't apply to tablets? Or other reasons?

I'm also asking this cause I hear one on the main reasons for switching from iPhone is some got bored or lack of features. But many of those same ones are still praising the iPad as the best. It's basically the same thing with bigger screen, so I don't get the reason behind this.

Me personally, I'm the opposite. Still not bored of my iP4 but I get bored of tablets quickly. Already went thru 3 Android tablets(still have one), a BB Playbook and still have a iPad2.
Because up until recently, no Android tablet was good enough to compete with the iPad. Android Tablets started with and are still using Honeycomb, which is a crap OS. God does it suck! I really, really hate it. But now that Android tablets have optimized software (ICS and Jelly Bean) to go with good/fast hardware (cpu, gpu and battery life), there are a couple of tablets worthy of replacing the iPad for both media consumption and light workloads. Some, like the transformer also offer a keyboard and mouse to give you netbook capability.

I now predict that within a year, the iPad marketshare will start to shrink. Not drastically, but it will be noticed.

Zaft
Aug 7, 2012, 09:54 PM
I also question this. It could be because the ipad has much better apps so far.
But i think people that switch from iphone just want a bigger screen;)

LIVEFRMNYC
Aug 7, 2012, 10:08 PM
Because up until recently, no Android tablet was good enough to compete with the iPad. Android Tablets started with and are still using Honeycomb, which is a crap OS. God does it suck! I really, really hate it. But now that Android tablets have optimized software (ICS and Jelly Bean) to go with good/fast hardware (cpu, gpu and battery life), there are a couple of tablets worthy of replacing the iPad for both media consumption and light workloads. Some, like the transformer also offer a keyboard and mouse to give you netbook capability.

I now predict that within a year, the iPad marketshare will start to shrink. Not drastically, but it will be noticed.

Yes, but even the newer ones like Note 2 and Nexus 7. I still see a tons of comments that state iPad is preferred. Also it looks like Apple will compete against smaller tablets if the iPad mini rumor is true.

My guess is that people don't use their tablets as much as their phones. But I have yet to hear this as a explanation from anyone.

Just hearing mutiple reasons one ditched an iPhone, I'm just curious as why they would want to deal with those same reasons on an iPad.

Mac.World
Aug 7, 2012, 11:24 PM
Yes, but even the newer ones like Note 2 and Nexus 7. I still see a tons of comments that state iPad is preferred. Also it looks like Apple will compete against smaller tablets if the iPad mini rumor is true.

My guess is that people don't use their tablets as much as their phones. But I have yet to hear this as a explanation from anyone.

Just hearing mutiple reasons one ditched an iPhone, I'm just curious as why they would want to deal with those same reasons on an iPad.

I ditched the iPhone for the S3, because the S3 is better in every aspect and has more capabilities over the iphone.

onthecouchagain
Aug 7, 2012, 11:43 PM
Excellent question. And the answer is actually very simple:

I require more of my smartphone. It's with me all the time, and therefore require it to do more. Truly threaded emails, better keyboard for emails/texting, easier access to contacts (direct dialing, direct messaging), quick access to toggles (at work I get poor reception cause i"m deep inside a building, but we have excellent wifi. So easy to just turn it on and off in and out of the office) and information thanks to widgets, easier to browse with Chrome (unlimited tabs, anyone?), and easier to browse/read on the larger screen.

But for the tablet, I demand much less from it. It's a luxury device, in my opinion, that I can use while traveling to browse, or to even do a quick email if I must, or to play games.

Also, iOS shines on the tablet. It's, in my opinion, terribly hindered on the iPhone (lack of side menus, lack of gesture controls, no real tabs in Safari), which is ironic.

akuma13
Aug 8, 2012, 03:32 AM
Also, iOS shines on the tablet. It's, in my opinion, terribly hindered on the iPhone (lack of side menus, lack of gesture controls, no real tabs in Safari), which is ironic.

this is exactly why I still have an iPad. IOS simply works better on the IPad compared to the iPhone. It's just more intuitive on a bigger screen (plus the app selection doesn't hurt). I don't see myself moving back to an iPhone until they revamp iOS.

NbinHD
Aug 8, 2012, 04:21 AM
Personally I believe it is because of the Android tablet app fragmentation. Most of the tablet apps on Android are just up-sized phone apps, and they look all warped and stretched. And the fact that generally the iPad is lot nicer of tablet.

Wrathwitch
Aug 8, 2012, 04:57 AM
Excellent question. And the answer is actually very simple:

I require more of my smartphone. It's with me all the time, and therefore require it to do more. Truly threaded emails, better keyboard for emails/texting, easier access to contacts (direct dialing, direct messaging), quick access to toggles (at work I get poor reception cause i"m deep inside a building, but we have excellent wifi. So easy to just turn it on and off in and out of the office) and information thanks to widgets, easier to browse with Chrome (unlimited tabs, anyone?), and easier to browse/read on the larger screen.

But for the tablet, I demand much less from it. It's a luxury device, in my opinion, that I can use while traveling to browse, or to even do a quick email if I must, or to play games.

Also, iOS shines on the tablet. It's, in my opinion, terribly hindered on the iPhone (lack of side menus, lack of gesture controls, no real tabs in Safari), which is ironic.

I agree with this dude/dudette regarding tablet reasons. Simply iOS does have the best apps and for me tablet is play and media consumption. Also I do really like Apple so it was an easy fit for me.

matttye
Aug 8, 2012, 06:48 AM
I have my phone with me all the time and I need to know its capable of doing everything I might need it to at any given time.

My tablet I mainly use at home, when I also have access to a pc. I don't really need it to do as much and mainly use it as a book reader and web and forum browser.

Also, if I'm walking down the street and need to do something, I want it done as quickly as possible, and Android is quicker at most things because of widgets.

Of the Android tablets I've seen, none come close to the iPad. I haven't checked out the galaxy tab 10.1 or nexus 7 yet though.

kdarling
Aug 8, 2012, 07:14 AM
+ 1 to what others have said:

- My phone is for quick access to information, not for long browsing sessions. Android excels at information display and the ability to move between apps. This is especially true as you follow a path between them and the Back key allows you to retrace your steps easily.

- My tablet is for more prolonged sessions, and while name brand Android tablet hardware is excellent (most even include GPS, for example), iOS has an edge in apps that are optimized for the tablet screen size. At least, for now.

That said, my family actually uses Android tablets far more often around the house. Why? Because we love the 7" form factor and Apple as yet has ignored that market.

More and more mainstream apps are moving to Android tablets, too. The addition of Wacom pen technology to tablets is also a plus in their favor for anyone who has a need to input hand written or drawn info.

SeanR1
Aug 8, 2012, 07:26 AM
I agree with this dude/dudette regarding tablet reasons. Simply iOS does have the best apps and for me tablet is play and media consumption. Also I do really like Apple so it was an easy fit for me.

I agree also. Love my iPad and my S3. iPad is used at home so there are lots of options if I run into a snag because of the limitations. My phone is used on its own and needs to do anything I need it to without back-up alternatives. The big screen is also a great bonus compared to my old iPhone 4.

cynics
Aug 8, 2012, 09:41 AM
I've always preferred an iPhone with Android tablet. I like to mess around with Android but need a phone to just do simple things.

So I can root, rom, overclock etc etc. and if it's not working exactly how I like its not a big deal.

I actually like Honeycomb. Considering the only difference between honeycomb and ICS is swipe to close apps and different settings menu I don't really see what's to not like. Huge leap from gingerbread IMO.

I have an iPad 2 which is nice but it lacks in the customization I prefer in a "toy".

cube
Aug 8, 2012, 01:36 PM
There's no apps on the iPhone that I need that I can't get on Android. Non-removable batteries and lack of memory slot are unacceptable. And there is no iPhone like the Galaxy Note.

On the other hand, the iPad has quite a lot of things that interest me that I don't think I can get on Android.

And #1 is the 4:3 retina screen.

But if there's an A4 Android tablet with a 4:3 retina screen, I will probably switch. Too bad, magazines should support Android.

SurferMan
Aug 8, 2012, 03:38 PM
Pretty much like the above, greatly prefer my GSII to my iPhones, however Apple still has the edge imo in regards to the tablets, though now with ICS and Jelly Bean the new Android tabs are really sweet. Loved the new Nexus tab, only thing that held me back was no micro-sd slot.

soulreaver99
Aug 8, 2012, 04:07 PM
iPad is the best designed tablet and I can fully rely on the stability of iOS to do some serious work on. Other tablets don't even compare and unfortunately ICS runs sluggish on Android tablets and aren't as smooth as they are on the phones. I use my iPad LTE on the road more than I do with my MacBook Air 11 2012 i7 which pretty much stays docked to a Thunderbolt display at home.

When coupled with the Logitech Ultrathin keyboard, it becomes the ultimate productvity device in its class especially with apps such Quick Office and Notability. I've went on business trips for an entire week relying soley on the ipad and left my worklaptop and even MacBook Air at home. The retina display is a huge plus and makes reading emails and working on documents all day on the go a great experience. And when the work day is over, I just take it off the keyboard and watch Netflix or anime off of Crunchyroll. If I have access to an Apple TV, I can easily watch it on the big screen.

Now on the phone side, it is a much different story. The Galaxy S3 one ups the iPhone with the camera, battery life, screen size, LTE speed, and other functions that I personaly need that the iPhone 4S (which is still a great phone) doesn't have which is important because I spend 80% of my time on the go vs stopping at a desk or flat surface to have an opportunity to pysically type on. I can leave all mobile devices at home and take the Galaxy S3 with me and I can survive with that alone. But having the large screen size of the iPad and keyboard makes it a great device to compliment it.

Calidude
Aug 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
Try reading an epub book on an iPad, then the same book on an Android tablet.

That's all you need to know that iPad is a better tablet.

cynics
Aug 8, 2012, 06:45 PM
When coupled with the Logitech Ultrathin keyboard, it becomes the ultimate productvity device in its class especially with apps such Quick Office and Notability. I've went on business trips for an entire week relying soley on the ipad and left my worklaptop and even MacBook Air at home. The retina display is a huge plus and makes reading emails and working on documents all day on the go a great experience. And when the work day is over, I just take it off the keyboard and watch Netflix or anime off of Crunchyroll. If I have access to an Apple TV, I can easily watch it on the big screen. it.

The "ultimate" productivity device wouldn't choke when you plugged a mouse in after the keyboard.

I have both but rarely use the iPad. I have a 2 though.

utl768
Aug 8, 2012, 06:52 PM
phones are alot closer but nothing beats the ipad as a tablet

all the other droid tablets are trash

soulreaver99
Aug 8, 2012, 06:55 PM
The "ultimate" productivity device wouldn't choke when you plugged a mouse in after the keyboard.

I have both but rarely use the iPad. I have a 2 though.

aside from games and posisible art, why would you need a mouse when you can use the touch screen? I don't need a mouse to send emails and work on Word documents, power point presenations and Excel spreadsheets. Everyone has different uses.

cynics
Aug 9, 2012, 09:49 AM
aside from games and posisible art, why would you need a mouse when you can use the touch screen? I don't need a mouse to send emails and work on Word documents, power point presenations and Excel spreadsheets. Everyone has different uses.

When I connect the tablet to a projector and need to stand near the screen for a presentation a mouse is very handy. Or if I'm in a hotel I can plug the tablet into an hdmi port and lay on the bed with wireless mouse and keyboard. And like you said, games and art.

Pretty much every time I have it connected too a tv I don't want to be looking at the screen. If I'm doing that what's the point? Watching YouTube videos? That's not productive.

Stuntman06
Aug 9, 2012, 08:07 PM
Personally I believe it is because of the Android tablet app fragmentation. Most of the tablet apps on Android are just up-sized phone apps, and they look all warped and stretched. And the fact that generally the iPad is lot nicer of tablet.

The problem with Android apps on tablets is that Android phones are generally used in portrait orientation. Android tablets seemed to be designed to be used in landscape orientation. It's such a pain when I launch an app and it defaults to portrait orientation with no option to set it to landscape. You see, I use an Asus Transformer tablet with a keyboard dock. I generally always have it docked and it docks in landscape orientation only. When an app only launches in portrait, it's not worth using because you either have to turn the tablet and have no access to the keyboard or you have to strain your neck looking at the screen.

When I bought my tablet last year, I chose the Transformer only because there is no keyboard dock for the iPad that comes anywhere close to being as good as the keyboard dock for the Transformer. There was absolutely no comparison. I do a lot of typing while using my tablet and the keyboard dock for the Transformer just blew me away. I use my tablet as a near replacement for my laptop. It does about 75% of what I want to do with my laptop. I would say that I use my Transformer tablet 75% of the time and my laptop only 25% of the time. I doubt the iPad would be as useful and be such a good near replacement for my PC with the lack of a decent keyboard dock.

wobegong
Aug 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
My guess is that people don't use their tablets as much as their phones. But I have yet to hear this as a explanation from anyone.

Just hearing mutiple reasons one ditched an iPhone, I'm just curious as why they would want to deal with those same reasons on an iPad.

Because they want a good PHONE and would rather leave apps running on a bigger screen (iPad). The iPhone excels with apps but lets face it it's nicer running them on a larger screen, some people think the iPhone sucks at being a phone though, take away the apps and it's not great (poor reception is just one reason - since I switched I can hold calls much better in places that the iPhone would leave me constantly redialing in as just one example).

Now my phone is crystal clear even in weak signal areas, I have fewer apps (it's not Android) but I have the ones I really would miss on a phone and I can understand why then I may want an iPad at home for handy app-goodness.

P.S. Skype strangely also has much clearer voice calls with far less breakup than was the case on my old iPhone4.

NbinHD
Aug 10, 2012, 05:07 AM
The problem with Android apps on tablets is that Android phones are generally used in portrait orientation. Android tablets seemed to be designed to be used in landscape orientation. It's such a pain when I launch an app and it defaults to portrait orientation with no option to set it to landscape. You see, I use an Asus Transformer tablet with a keyboard dock. I generally always have it docked and it docks in landscape orientation only. When an app only launches in portrait, it's not worth using because you either have to turn the tablet and have no access to the keyboard or you have to strain your neck looking at the screen.

When I bought my tablet last year, I chose the Transformer only because there is no keyboard dock for the iPad that comes anywhere close to being as good as the keyboard dock for the Transformer. There was absolutely no comparison. I do a lot of typing while using my tablet and the keyboard dock for the Transformer just blew me away. I use my tablet as a near replacement for my laptop. It does about 75% of what I want to do with my laptop. I would say that I use my Transformer tablet 75% of the time and my laptop only 25% of the time. I doubt the iPad would be as useful and be such a good near replacement for my PC with the lack of a decent keyboard dock.

True, I guess it all depends of everyone's needs.

DarwinOSX
Aug 11, 2012, 12:09 AM
The main reason is poor app quality and selection as most Android tablet apps are upsized phone apps.
Also poor build quality, reliability, and support.
Inferior screens.
No LTE except for one that I can think of.
Terrible interface that is different for the sake of being different.

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I doubt the iPad would be as useful and be such a good near replacement for my PC with the lack of a decent keyboard dock.

If only there were a zillion keyboard solutions for the iPad.

cynics
Aug 11, 2012, 10:48 AM
The main reason is poor app quality and selection as most Android tablet apps are upsized phone apps.
Also poor build quality, reliability, and support.
Inferior screens.
No LTE except for one that I can think of.
Terrible interface that is different for the sake of being different.

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If only there were a zillion keyboard solutions for the iPad.

When the iPad 2 was released the Android competition had better screens and LTE. LTE and a decent screen is only a recent addition to the device.

I have a Xoom and just sold my iPad 2 for the new iPad (wifi).

http://img.tapatalk.com/62e9ac49-7b84-7d3a.jpg

So I have a device thats less the 6 months old and an android tablet that's over a year and a half old. And the only thing that's better on the iPad is it's screen. The cameras aren't as good, there is no camera flash, there is no real USB hosting, mono speaker, no sd card. Build quality and reliability is the same, however I know there are some cheap feeling android tablet.

I do like my iPad but even in its 3rd iteration it lacks in some things.

Sensamic
Aug 11, 2012, 11:27 AM
IPad has better apps and more updates.

Android tablets offer more functionality, but have horrible apps and almost no updates.

Mac.World
Aug 11, 2012, 09:29 PM
IPad has better apps and more updates.

Android tablets offer more functionality, but have horrible apps and almost no updates.

Well I have had my Nexus 7 for almost 36 hours now and I got to say, this thing is a joy to use. In total it is half the size of an iPad, but I don't have any issues using it. I think Jobs had it all wrong and I really believe an iPad mini will sell like hotcakes! Especially, if the keep the price around $250.

Sensamic
Aug 11, 2012, 10:25 PM
Well I have had my Nexus 7 for almost 36 hours now and I got to say, this thing is a joy to use. In total it is half the size of an iPad, but I don't have any issues using it. I think Jobs had it all wrong and I really believe an iPad mini will sell like hotcakes! Especially, if the keep the price around $250.

I was also thinking of buying one. I would have prefered 9 inch screen.

However, since I already have my SGS3, I can use it for almost everything I was planning to do on an Android tablet: downloading torrents, playing emulators, uploading any type of file to my NAS, organizing my pictures folders with the file browser, etc.

Right now I'm satisfied, so I really don't see the need I had before of buying the nexus 7.

I'm gonna wait to try one in person hoping that it will change my mind :D:D

Mac.World
Aug 11, 2012, 10:49 PM
Personally, I have to have a tablet. I can't use a phone for web surfing. That is just me though.

Here is one really, really awesome thing I learned about the Nex7 though. When you come across tiny text and just tap on it, a nice big bubble comes up with a few lines of the surrounding text area you clicked, or in the case below, which Page of this thread I wanted. It is then a piece of cake to select what I want. Don't know if this is a Nex7, Chrome or JB feature? Check it. Apple needs to copy this. No long press to get a tiny magnifying glass on mobile devices.

http://img.tapatalk.com/18179939-28c0-3354.jpg

dkersten
Aug 11, 2012, 11:07 PM
Simple, Apps/ecosystem and price points. Android has almost caught up to iOS in terms of Apps on phones. Android for tablet Apps, not even close to iOS in terms of numbers or quality. There also is nearly no ecosystem that force people into Android tablets

Also, manufactures continue to struggle to make quality products such as the iPad at the price of the iPad. Only now are we seeing quality at the same or cheaper price as the iPad (such as the Transformer series).

cynics
Aug 12, 2012, 03:12 AM
Personally, I have to have a tablet. I can't use a phone for web surfing. That is just me though.

Here is one really, really awesome thing I learned about the Nex7 though. When you come across tiny text and just tap on it, a nice big bubble comes up with a few lines of the surrounding text area you clicked, or in the case below, which Page of this thread I wanted. It is then a piece of cake to select what I want. Don't know if this is a Nex7, Chrome or JB feature? Check it. Apple needs to copy this. No long press to get a tiny magnifying glass on mobile devices.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/18179939-28c0-3354.jpg)

Yeah, that's a function of vanilla ICS. It's very very useful. Anytime a button press is in question you get that box.

SurferMan
Aug 12, 2012, 11:18 AM
Personally, I have to have a tablet. I can't use a phone for web surfing. That is just me though.

Here is one really, really awesome thing I learned about the Nex7 though. When you come across tiny text and just tap on it, a nice big bubble comes up with a few lines of the surrounding text area you clicked, or in the case below, which Page of this thread I wanted. It is then a piece of cake to select what I want. Don't know if this is a Nex7, Chrome or JB feature? Check it. Apple needs to copy this. No long press to get a tiny magnifying glass on mobile devices.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/18179939-28c0-3354.jpg)
yeh that's a cool feature of ICS. When I flashed the custom ICS rom on my phone that was one of the first things I notice. That is such a simple but immensely useful feature of ICS

Mac.World
Aug 12, 2012, 11:56 AM
Yeah, that's a function of vanilla ICS. It's very very useful. Anytime a button press is in question you get that box.

The Nex7 is my first time playing with a vanilla version of Android. I never knew about this feature before. Why in the hell would Samsung drop this feature in Touchwiz? That is beyond stupid!
Anyway, as usual thank you for the info Cynics. Much gratitude. :D

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yeh that's a cool feature of ICS. When I flashed the custom ICS rom on my phone that was one of the first things I notice. That is such a simple but immensely useful feature of ICS

Much gratitude as well Surferman.

Sensamic
Aug 12, 2012, 04:35 PM
Personally, I have to have a tablet. I can't use a phone for web surfing. That is just me though.

Here is one really, really awesome thing I learned about the Nex7 though. When you come across tiny text and just tap on it, a nice big bubble comes up with a few lines of the surrounding text area you clicked, or in the case below, which Page of this thread I wanted. It is then a piece of cake to select what I want. Don't know if this is a Nex7, Chrome or JB feature? Check it. Apple needs to copy this. No long press to get a tiny magnifying glass on mobile devices.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/18179939-28c0-3354.jpg)

My plan is to buy a new tablet this year. My iPad 1 is good for now, but I've always felt it was too restricted. I need a tablet to be able to replicate at least some of the basic functionality of a laptop, and Android does offer that.

I'm also waiting to see the surface. Tried Windows 8 a few weeks ago and didn't like it too much.

So my plan is to wait to try out the nexus 7 and the surface and decide then.

riveting
Aug 12, 2012, 04:45 PM
iphone has a smaller screen than most high end android phones (also lower resolution) and is much more expensive than android phones with similar specs. (galaxy nexus e.g.) , ipad 3 has the best screen among all the tablet and is not much more expensive than comparable android tablet. Not to mention the app problem with android tablet.

ixodes
Aug 12, 2012, 04:56 PM
I have an iPhone 4s, and iPads 2 & 3. In addition I have a Galaxy Nexus & Nexus 7 tablet.

Each of these two very different platforms, have their pros and cons. That's precisely why I bought both.

As with most products, it's more about what _you_ like and what fits your needs, than for someone to declare what's best.

In a word, they are simply "different". As this forum proves, the features and benefits can be argued ad naseum.

I'm very happy with my choices, especially since they each perform as I expected them to.

Stuntman06
Aug 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
If only there were a zillion keyboard solutions for the iPad.

I did look at the various keyboard solutions. None were as good as the keyboard solution for the Transformer.