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ddtlm
Nov 11, 2002, 09:52 PM
I am using my trusty Linux box to inform the world, should you care :), that when I installed OSX 10.2.2 (the patch) my system now gives that neat multi-language "you must restart your computer" box each time I start it. Wonderful. Overall OSX 10.2 has crashed more than any operating system I have ever used.

Crashed twice, or was that three times, just downloading the patch (ICQ will also crash it in a matter of minutes, otherwise it generally goes a day or two). The machine was perfect under 10.1.

Guess I'll be reinstalling OSX this weekend. :rolleyes:



bousozoku
Nov 11, 2002, 10:03 PM
I downloaded and installed both 10.2.2 and the Superdrive patch and everything is working quite well.

Did you overlay a beta version with 10.2 earlier? Apple strictly said not to do that. I did two machines, three drives without formatting anything, but I only upgraded two of them. The other with the beta, I archived and installed.

Good luck!

MacAztec
Nov 11, 2002, 10:03 PM
What are your system specs? How did you install 10.2?

Youre the only one....:rolleyes:

medea
Nov 11, 2002, 10:17 PM
no issues here with x.2.2, sorry you are having so many of them. are you recieving any error when your machine "crashes."

ddtlm
Nov 11, 2002, 10:47 PM
medea:

Nope, no error message. The usual mode of failuire is what I like to call a "snowball," since something somewhere dies and then everything else is OK till it touches whatever is dead. Any process that touches something dead dies as well. It's bizzarre.

MacAztec:

DP-800, 1.5gig RAM, SCSI software RAID, Radeon 8500.

bousozoku:

Nope, fresh install into 10.2 a while back. I'll try that again soon and hope something magicly works this time. :)

Rower_CPU
Nov 12, 2002, 11:38 AM
Have you checked Apple's Discussion boards for anyone having similar problems?

That's probably your best bet for finding out if it's a general bug or something specific to your system/installation.

Falleron
Nov 12, 2002, 11:55 AM
I have not had any problems with Jaguar or any other versions of OSX. The last time my computer crashed was about 5 months ago.

GeeYouEye
Nov 12, 2002, 12:11 PM
Repair permissions. 10.2.2 screws 'em up like anything.

ddtlm
Nov 12, 2002, 12:58 PM
Nice to get sympathy and suggestions :), but this thing dies the moment that it boots to the login prompt (GUI), so I think I'm just gona reinstall the OS and see if that fixes it (remember it was already unstable before the patch). I wasn't trying to get help so much as I was trying see if anyone else has seen anything like this.

e-coli
Nov 12, 2002, 01:05 PM
i would say you have a hardware problem. take your machine in for service.

medea
Nov 12, 2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by ddtlm
Nice to get sympathy and suggestions :), but this thing dies the moment that it boots to the login prompt (GUI), so I think I'm just gona reinstall the OS and see if that fixes it (remember it was already unstable before the patch). I wasn't trying to get help so much as I was trying see if anyone else has seen anything like this.

Have you reinstalled your os yet, and did it do the trick?

BenderBot1138
Nov 12, 2002, 03:39 PM
Hold down your shift key next time you start...

:cool:

BenderBot1138
Nov 12, 2002, 03:44 PM
Just heard a rumor its viral from downloading a certain movie on Limewire... the fix said next time your computer starts up, don't let it get very far... push and hold down your power button to force a restart a second time... I don't know about the shift key thing now. The iChat guy I'm on with right now said it dims the screen and then puts up a dialog in four languages telling you restart.

Doesn't sound good... :mad:

bousozoku
Nov 12, 2002, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by BenderBot1138
Just heard a rumor its viral from downloading a certain movie on Limewire... the fix said next time your computer starts up, don't let it get very far... push and hold down your power button to force a restart a second time... I don't know about the shift key thing now. The iChat guy I'm on with right now said it dims the screen and then puts up a dialog in four languages telling you restart.

Doesn't sound good... :mad:

Interesting. The production companies won't pay to have DVD-ROM access for Macintoshes but they'll pay to have Mac OS X virii written.

Guess it doesn't pay to steal.

ddtlm
Nov 12, 2002, 10:33 PM
e-coli:

i would say you have a hardware problem. take your machine in for service.
Nope, ran it 24x7 in 10.1 for a year or whatever, with about 4 crashes.

medea:

Have you reinstalled your os yet, and did it do the trick?
No time yet.

BenderBot1138

Just heard a rumor its viral from downloading a certain movie on Limewire.
There is essentially no way for a virus to have gotten onto my machine.

cb911
Nov 13, 2002, 12:32 AM
i had one of those weird multi-language 'restart your machine' messages thisafternoon as well.

i was just playing iTunes with a few other apps open and a full screen visualisation then when i exited the visualisation the scree went all tones of grey and the restart message came up.

it was also about 30˚C in the classroom and my TiBooks was feeling very hot.

could it have been some high-temp cutout thing? i think that the max operating temp of the TiBooks is only 33˚C.... what would happen if it did get too hot for it?

ddtlm
Nov 13, 2002, 08:05 PM
cb911:

Excessive heat can certainly cause errors. If it was getting too hot, the TiBook would just suffer random crashes, probably no pattern to them.

crassusad44
Nov 14, 2002, 11:52 AM
Installed 3rd party RAM lately? Checked your harddrive? (fsck -y, then Diskwarrior). Kernel panics during startup usually referres to hardware problems. If you belive its software, do a clean install (archive and install).

cb911
Nov 15, 2002, 06:01 AM
i haven't had any more restart messages again, but the Dock.app did crash twice yesterday, and the Finder crashed once as well...