PowerMac G5 questions

[LeoTheLion89]

i am thinking on getting a G5 at pretty much a steal price and i have a few questions. It is the 2005 DDR2 PCI-E model

do i need a external Wifi and Bluetooth antenna?
does the G5 have a second 5.25 drive bay? i have a 5.25 bay internal desktop speakers id like to install into my G5 if i get it.

Is there a way i can hook a internal USB 2.0 Card reader to a G5?

(This will be the replacement to my current AMD machine)

i can add the 2GB RAM i have from my computer now into the G5 giving it 4GB RAM

i can also install my current 500GB HDD giving it a total of 1.5TB HDD space.

can Ubuntu 12.04 run on a PowerMac G5?

[Intell]

The late-2005 models do not need an antenna, but the need an equally pricey sled for the wireless cards. They have only one 5.25" bay. How are you planning to connect the internal card reader? Ubuntu 12.04 can work on a PowerMac G5, but be prepared for some work to get it running well.

[LeoTheLion89]

How are you planning to connect the internal card reader?

well does a G5 have any USB Headers on the motherboard?

The PowerMac G5 does not have nearly enough USB Ports will any PCI-e USB card work in the G5? Will USB 3.0 work in a G5 with Leopard?

Ubuntu 12.04 can work on a PowerMac G5, but be prepared for some work to get it running well.

What exactly do i need to do?

[Nameci]

well does a G5 have any USB Headers on the motherboard?

The PowerMac G5 does not have nearly enough USB Ports will any PCI-e USB card work in the G5? Will USB 3.0 work in a G5 with Leopard?



What exactly do i need to do?

If you need more USB ports, get a pci-e usb card.

[LeoTheLion89]

If you need more USB ports, get a pci-e usb card.

thats is my plan but will a normal PC compatible USB card work or do i need a Mac compatible one?

[Intell]

well does a G5 have any USB Headers on the motherboard?

The PowerMac G5 does not have nearly enough USB Ports will any PCI-e USB card work in the G5? Will USB 3.0 work in a G5 with Leopard?

What exactly do i need to do?

G5's do not have USB headers on the logicboard. Mostly any NEC chipset equipped USB expansion card will work. There is no way to get USB 3 on a PowerPC Mac. To get Ubuntu working on a G5 well you need to be near guru status with Ubuntu and Linux based operating systems.

thats is my plan but will a normal PC compatible USB card work or do i need a Mac compatible one?

Mostly any NEC chipset equipped USB expansion card will work.

[Nameci]

Or you can get this...

http://eshop.macsales.com/search/pci-e+usb+card

[LeoTheLion89]

Mostly any NEC chipset equipped USB expansion card will work.

will this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124078

[Intell]

That one doesn't have an NEC chip on it. Thus, it won't work. Look at Nameci's link for a bunch of compatible ones. Just remember, a USB 3.0 one will not work in your PowerMac.

[LeoTheLion89]

That one doesn't have an NEC chip on it. Thus, it won't work. Look at Nameci's link for a bunch of compatible ones. Just remember, a USB 3.0 one will not work in your PowerMac.

i did but the cheapest is 40 bucks im not even gonna be payng that for the G5!

[LeoTheLion89]

Ok the G5 got too much then what i can afford so i am looking at other Macs i am trying to decide between a G4 Sawtooth (looks like a G3 Blue & White) G4 MDD or a plain PowerMac G4 (simular to the g5 tower)

heres what i am deciding between please let me know the better choice along with y its better then the rest

PowerMac G4 1.0GHz w/ 1GB RAM 80GB HDD and Leopard (Combo Drive) $30
PowerMac G5 A1047 Dual 2.0GHz 2GB RAM SuperDrive (all i need to do is install a HDD) no biggie i got tons of HDDs. $24.99

(I HAVE A PROMISE T100 (OR T10) PCI IDE RAID CARD DOES THIS MODEL G5 HAVE PCI? DOES THE G5 HAVE IDE ON THE LOGICBOARD?) I do have a IDE to SATA converter for drives but im not sure it id fit in the G5 does the G5 have any molex plugs on the PSU?

PowerMac PowerPC G4 867MHz M8493 80GB HDD 1.5GB RAM Leopard $34.99

PowerMac G4 QuickSilver 867MHz 1.5GB RAM 2MB L3 Cache 60GB HDD includes factory DVD Drive Manuals and Restore CDs includes the Tiger OS. ($29.00) I have a 2 port SATA PCI RAID card based on the Silcon Chipset will this RAID card work to give the QuickSilver SATA compatibility?

Mind u i install Leopard off a USB HDD. (In the case of the PowerMac G4s i can just put the HDD directly inside the computer)

so what all of these are the best choice?

[LeoTheLion89]

i found another G5 but im a bit confused the specs dont seem to match the G5 being sold according to the listing its a october 2004 model but it have dual 2.5GHz processors and as far as i know only the 2005 model has 2.5GHz it has a GeForce 6800 if that helps identify it.

[Intell]

The June 2004 had dual 2.5Ghz G5's as well. The Late-2004 did not.

[GermanyChris]

Ok the G5 got too much then what i can afford so i am looking at other Macs i am trying to decide between a G4 Sawtooth (looks like a G3 Blue & White) G4 MDD or a plain PowerMac G4 (simular to the g5 tower)

heres what i am deciding between please let me know the better choice along with y its better then the rest

PowerMac G4 1.0GHz w/ 1GB RAM 80GB HDD and Leopard (Combo Drive) $30
PowerMac G5 A1047 Dual 2.0GHz 2GB RAM SuperDrive (all i need to do is install a HDD) no biggie i got tons of HDDs. $24.99

(I HAVE A PROMISE T100 (OR T10) PCI IDE RAID CARD DOES THIS MODEL G5 HAVE PCI? DOES THE G5 HAVE IDE ON THE LOGICBOARD?) I do have a IDE to SATA converter for drives but im not sure it id fit in the G5 does the G5 have any molex plugs on the PSU?

PowerMac PowerPC G4 867MHz M8493 80GB HDD 1.5GB RAM Leopard $34.99

PowerMac G4 QuickSilver 867MHz 1.5GB RAM 2MB L3 Cache 60GB HDD includes factory DVD Drive Manuals and Restore CDs includes the Tiger OS. ($29.00) I have a 2 port SATA PCI RAID card based on the Silcon Chipset will this RAID card work to give the QuickSilver SATA compatibility?

Mind u i install Leopard off a USB HDD. (In the case of the PowerMac G4s i can just put the HDD directly inside the computer)

so what all of these are the best choice?

If you don't have or don't want to spend the $40 for a USB card an old PowerMac is probably the wrong tree to bark up. Everything for old Mac';s is expensive.

[LeoTheLion89]

The June 2004 had dual 2.5Ghz G5's as well. The Late-2004 did not.

the listing says October 2004 as the MPN

[Intell]

the listing says October 2004 as the MPN

Then it's a June 2004 one that was made in October of 2004.

[LeoTheLion89]

If you don't have or don't want to spend the $40 for a USB card an old PowerMac is probably the wrong tree to bark up. Everything for old Mac';s is expensive.

well according to specs this USB card works with Macs and requires OS X for USB 2.0 speeds

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815104306

[GermanyChris]

well according to specs this USB card works with Macs and requires OS X for USB 2.0 speeds

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815104306

There you go, but keep in mind that something that works with Macs may not work with all Macs particularly PowerPC. Some things it's the Open Firmware vs. EFI boot. Some it's the architecture, and some is that old Mac's sometimes don't want to play nice. For example I have two AS media PCIe SATA cards and for the last six weeks they didn't work in the quad. The other day I pick up a Marvell PCIe SATA card play little games with it for a couple hours and throw in the towel. On a whim i put the other cards back in and they work just peachy.

In the end though you'll find that the "cheap" PowerMac will not be so cheap when your done.

[LeoTheLion89]

There you go, but keep in mind that something that works with Macs may not work with all Macs particularly PowerPC. Some things it's the Open Firmware vs. EFI boot. Some it's the architecture, and some is that old Mac's sometimes don't want to play nice. For example I have two AS media PCIe SATA cards and for the last six weeks they didn't work in the quad. The other day I pick up a Marvell PCIe SATA card play little games with it for a couple hours and throw in the towel. On a whim i put the other cards back in and they work just peachy.

In the end though you'll find that the "cheap" PowerMac will not be so cheap when your done.

well the specs say OS 8.6 and later and "USB 2.0 Requires OS X" so im assuming that means its PowerPC

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anther option ill get if not a G5 is a G4 Dual 1.25GHz MDD and i was wondering if the 2.50GHz G5 or the G4 Dual 1.25GHz (equaling the same 2.5GHz) how well these macs will Play YouTube (without need of MacTubes)?

i love MacTubes use it on my eMac all the time however if i can just watch YouTube and other flash media in the browser then i wont need MacTubes.

also can anyone assist me with Trillian issues?

[LeoTheLion89]

In the end though you'll find that the "cheap" PowerMac will not be so cheap when your done.

well only thing ill have to buy is a USB card in the meantime ill use a USB hub i have no USB cards i already have a Silicon SATA RAID card a Promise T100 IDE Raid Card and a IDE to SATA Drive converter along with more IDE HDDs then i know what to do with to install inside the G4

[Davy.Shalom]

i am thinking on getting a G5 at pretty much a steal price and i have a few questions. It is the 2005 DDR2 PCI-E model

do i need a external Wifi and Bluetooth antenna?
does the G5 have a second 5.25 drive bay? i have a 5.25 bay internal desktop speakers id like to install into my G5 if i get it.

Is there a way i can hook a internal USB 2.0 Card reader to a G5?

(This will be the replacement to my current AMD machine)

i can add the 2GB RAM i have from my computer now into the G5 giving it 4GB RAM

i can also install my current 500GB HDD giving it a total of 1.5TB HDD space.

can Ubuntu 12.04 run on a PowerMac G5?

If it is a DDR2 PCI-E model it has the antenna built in next to the back I/O. However, the bluetooth/airport slider card thing is expensive as mentioned above.

USB 2: Add a PCI-e usb card, or use an external hub.
Drive Bay: Just one. You can take the optical drive out if you wish...
RAM: http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx << Go here and use the memory advisor to find the exact type of RAM you will need. There are other tools but I find this the easiest, and I have never had a problem with Micron/Crucial memory.


By the way, be wary of the liquid cooling systems in many of these powermacs. Be sure you know the exact model based on the processor speed. Then you can determine whether or not it has a liquid cooling system. If it is a quad, then it will probably not suffer from the coolant leak problem anytime soon.

[LeoTheLion89]

If it is a DDR2 PCI-E model it has the antenna built in next to the back I/O. However, the bluetooth/airport slider card thing is expensive as mentioned above.

USB 2: Add a PCI-e usb card, or use an external hub.
Drive Bay: Just one. You can take the optical drive out if you wish...
RAM: http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx << Go here and use the memory advisor to find the exact type of RAM you will need. There are other tools but I find this the easiest, and I have never had a problem with Micron/Crucial memory.


By the way, be wary of the liquid cooling systems in many of these powermacs. Be sure you know the exact model based on the processor speed. Then you can determine whether or not it has a liquid cooling system. If it is a quad, then it will probably not suffer from the coolant leak problem anytime soon.

The G5 i will get would be a October 2004 as mention in the MPN it has PCI and AGP. It is the single 2.5GHz model

if that falls through i will get a MDD G4 Dual 1.25GHz CPUs DVD Drive 2GB DDR RAM no HDD

[Lancer]

Depending what you want to do the G4 might be too slow, the G5 is still a usable computer but just remember it's not Intel so getting newer software is becoming harder.

Don't get me wrong I've owned a G4 and still use a G5 and love them but time is marching on, if you can afford to go for an Mac Pro, but even the early models of these can't run the latest Mac OS X. But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

I'm not saying don't buy, just be aware of the limitations of the G5 and more so the G4.

[Intell]

The G5 i will get would be a October 2004 as mention in the MPN it has PCI and AGP. It is the single 2.5GHz model

Such a Mac has never existed.

The only G5 that was released in October 2004 was the 1.8Ghz single G5 with PCI slots.

Both 2.5Ghz G5's were dual and had either PCI-X or PCIe slots.

[LeoTheLion89]

Depending what you want to do the G4 might be too slow, the G5 is still a usable computer but just remember it's not Intel so getting newer software is becoming harder.

Don't get me wrong I've owned a G4 and still use a G5 and love them but time is marching on, if you can afford to go for an Mac Pro, but even the early models of these can't run the latest Mac OS X. But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

I'm not saying don't buy, just be aware of the limitations of the G5 and more so the G4.

actually yes i am running Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit on my Socket 478 P4 system with DDR RAM and the motherboard is dated 2004

also running Windows 7 on my AM2 DDR2 system 64bit which the motherboard maker dont support 7 on the system.

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Such a Mac has never existed.

The only G5 that was released in October 2004 was the 1.8Ghz single G5 with PCI slots.

Both 2.5Ghz G5's were dual and had either PCI-X or PCIe slots.

heres some of the listed specs:

Brand Apple
Product Family Power Mac G5
Model ID PowerMac9,1
Model Number A1093
MPN ApplePowerMacG5October2004
UPC 718908487402

Motherboard
Video Output Interface AGP 8x
Motherboard I/O Ports FireWire (IEEE1394a) x 2, FireWire (IEEE1394b) x 1, RJ45 Lan Port x 1, USB 1.1 x 2, USB 2.0 x 3
Bus Speed 600 MHz

Technical Features
Expansion Bays 2 x 3.5" (Internal Access)
Expansion Slots AGP x8 x 1, PCI-X 64 Bit (33 MHz) x 3

Miscellaneous
Release Date October, 2004
Exterior Color Silver
Other Features Dual Channel Memory Architecture

Processor Speed: 2.50 GHz Product Family: Power Mac G5
Memory: 8 GB

[Intell]

That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

[Davy.Shalom]

Depending what you want to do the G4 might be too slow, the G5 is still a usable computer but just remember it's not Intel so getting newer software is becoming harder.

Don't get me wrong I've owned a G4 and still use a G5 and love them but time is marching on, if you can afford to go for an Mac Pro, but even the early models of these can't run the latest Mac OS X. But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

I'm not saying don't buy, just be aware of the limitations of the G5 and more so the G4.

Haha I actually have Win 7 Ultimate 32 on a P4 2 GHz from 2002...

[wobegong]

But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

[Lancer]

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

:lol: I asked for that...

I was checking the specs on my AMD 64 with 2Gb or RAM and was told it wasn't supported, might need to check into that.

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

[wobegong]

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ;) ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas ;)

[Lancer]

I'm not a fanboy either but I love my Mac and willing to drop serious money (for me) on a top 27" iMac when the 2012 update is release.

I will say before my current PC I had another, one day the USB ports died, I think it was less than 5 years old. Anyone I couldn't get a new replacement mainboard and by the time I added a new CPU, RAM and other parts it was cheaper to get a new base PC and sell the old one for parts on eBay.

[Liquinn]

Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ;) ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas ;)
Technology moves on I guess. :(

My Powermac G5 feels like a real Mac, as opposed to PC hardware in an aluminum case with an Apple logo on.

[LeoTheLion89]

That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

heres the info :

The Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 has been customized by the seller, so read the detailed listing and feel free to reach out to the seller to ask questions about specific adjustments. Without any modifications, the Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 is a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5-powered desktop that helps you to multitask with ease. It comes with a standard capacity of 256 MB, a maximum capacity of 4 GB and 80 GB (7200 RPM) standard hard drive. Moreover, with a resolution of 1920x1200 pixels, this Mac G5 customized desktop delivers clear and crisp visual output. Thanks to its Ethernet connectivity, this Mac G5 customized desktop lets you surf the web, download games, and stream videos from the Internet. What’s more, you can simply connect flash drive and digital camera with the Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 via its three USB ports for fast data transmission.

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That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

the specs say Model Number is A1093 the G5 case itself says A2528

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:lol: I asked for that...

I was checking the specs on my AMD 64 with 2Gb or RAM and was told it wasn't supported, might need to check into that.

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

exactly i love Linux but even Linux on a PPC mac is so limited i cant do much more with Linux thean Mac OS X i just use Camino

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Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ;) ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas ;)

im not a fanboy either infact i dont even like macs that well for the fact that apple dont back PPCs anymore just because apple dont support em anymore dont mean that Mozilla and other companies has do abandon the PPC platform automatically assuming everyone has a intel mac Intel Macs cost too much even on eBay and i learned everything about Mac OS X on a 1GHz eMac with 256MB RAM running Panther all throughout high school this includes the iBook G4 as well also including 256MB RAM but did have a slightly faster CPU at 1.25GHz if Adobe still cared about Mac then watching YouTube on my eMac would still be possible to do like it was in high school.

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I'm not a fanboy either but I love my Mac and willing to drop serious money (for me) on a top 27" iMac when the 2012 update is release.

I will say before my current PC I had another, one day the USB ports died, I think it was less than 5 years old. Anyone I couldn't get a new replacement mainboard and by the time I added a new CPU, RAM and other parts it was cheaper to get a new base PC and sell the old one for parts on eBay.

i have never experienced USB ports on a motherboard going bad and i dont have any computer newer that a 2006 (motherboard date code) thats not including a Acer laptop i got for on the go gaming.

I have never owed a computer that came with Vista installed all XP and with how bad XP was for speed and preformance Windows 7 shockingly makes a 8yo computer much more stable than XP.

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Technology moves on I guess. :(

My Powermac G5 feels like a real Mac, as opposed to PC hardware in an aluminum case with an Apple logo on.

agreed i feel the same way PPC is the REAL Macs

[Zeke D]

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

Lol I have winows7 running on a dual P/// 1ghz with 1ghz ram.

[LeoTheLion89]

Lol I have winows7 running on a dual P/// 1ghz with 1ghz ram.

it would be 1GB (Gigabyte) of RAM just so u know and windows 7 does require 1GHz processor and atleast 1GB RAM to run so u are running in borderline compatibility

[Zeke D]

it would be 1GB (Gigabyte) of RAM just so u know and windows 7 does require 1GHz processor and atleast 1GB RAM to run so u are running in borderline compatibility

Thanks for pointing out my mistype.

[Intell]

the specs say Model Number is A1093 the G5 case itself says A2528

Unless he put a June-2004 logicboard in there. There is no way to get 2.5Ghz CPU's running well on a 1.8Ghz board. The model number A2528 also doesn't exist for any Apple made product. I advise not getting that one due to it's unclear origins and specifications.

[LeoTheLion89]

Unless he put a June-2004 logicboard in there. There is no way to get 2.5Ghz CPU's running well on a 1.8Ghz board. The model number A2528 also doesn't exist for any Apple made product. I advise not getting that one due to it's unclear origins and specifications.

here is a picture of the case http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Apple-Power-Mac-G5-Desktop-Customized-2-5GHz-8GB-500GB-HDD-A2528-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$T2eC16VHJIkE9qU3kI0hBQI95et1wQ~~60_12.JPG

this computer does have a LAN Expansion card (no idea y since LAN is intergrated) and what appears to be a FW800 card

[Intell]

Still not helping. All PowerMac G5's looked the same from the front.

[LeoTheLion89]

Still not helping. All PowerMac G5's looked the same from the front.

the model number is on the front

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can i get expert opnions on a Mac Mini g4? the PM G5s are too much in shipping (40 bucks) and the g4 MDD i was gonna get has sold i have found this mac mini

M9686LL/B its got leopard and 1GB RAM

it says graphics issues: "a used Mac Mini with a display issue. The computer fuctions perfectly fine other then the video card will randomly scramble the video output. I have tried different displays, cables, and settings with no change." is it fixable? here is a picture of the screen issue http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQ3WDEwMDE=/$(KGrHqV,!jcE+t!ZgOpmBQHzBloYlg~~60_1.JPG?set_id=8800005007

[Intell]

No Apple product had that model number.

PPC Mac Mini G4's are like eMac's without screens, yet slightly less powerful due to a lesser GPU, less maximum ram, and slow hard drive.

[LeoTheLion89]

No Apple product had that model number.

PPC Mac Mini G4's are like eMac's without screens, yet slightly less powerful due to a lesser GPU, less maximum ram, and slow hard drive.

how well is a 1.8Ghz iMac G5?

[Intell]

You should only buy a G5 iMac to have one to complete your collection of Apple products. They do not make good every day use machines. Most will develop video, power supply, or overheating problems if they don't already have them.

[Lancer]

You should only buy a G5 iMac to have one to complete your collection of Apple products. They do not make good every day use machines. Most will develop video, power supply, or overheating problems if they don't already have them.

ITA - I love the G5 in my tower but the G5 iMac is not meant for the same tasks, the newer iMacs have come a long way to make the current Intel iMac more a production machine that can be left on all day. Besides you'll be stuck with a small LCD unless you can attach an external one, then you'd just be better with a tower.

If you budget is limited then go for the best G5 Tower you can find, the Mac Pro towers are probably still too much even the early models. Or look at the Intel Mini's?

On eBay (Here in AU) I saw some early model Mac Pros going for about $600, which is cheap considering most are around twice that. But I think these might have been very early base models and of course without LCDs. In most cases they are ex lease and don't even come with the original DVDs or KB/Mouse. Still very tempting until you look at the spec and see the current iMac is much better and probably faster in most day-to-day tasks.

[LeoTheLion89]

ITA - I love the G5 in my tower but the G5 iMac is not meant for the same tasks, the newer iMacs have come a long way to make the current Intel iMac more a production machine that can be left on all day. Besides you'll be stuck with a small LCD unless you can attach an external one, then you'd just be better with a tower.

If you budget is limited then go for the best G5 Tower you can find, the Mac Pro towers are probably still too much even the early models. Or look at the Intel Mini's?

On eBay (Here in AU) I saw some early model Mac Pros going for about $600, which is cheap considering most are around twice that. But I think these might have been very early base models and of course without LCDs. In most cases they are ex lease and don't even come with the original DVDs or KB/Mouse. Still very tempting until you look at the spec and see the current iMac is much better and probably faster in most day-to-day tasks.

Mac Minis are cheap and i wouldnt mind a G4 Mini as long as its up to par with my 1GHz eMac however id prefer a g4 or g5 tower was it can expand it with USB card and such

anything anyone can tell me bout the iMac g4s compared eMac besides the obvious reasons of course

[Intell]

The later iMac G4's are the same speed and power when it comes to a similarly clocked eMac. But eMac's win out because they are easily overclockable and they came in a 1.42Ghz version. I also think the ATI GPU in the eMac was slightly better than the iMac's NVIDIA GPU. Not sure about the GPU differences though. Could have that backwards.

[LeoTheLion89]

The later iMac G4's are the same speed and power when it comes to a similarly clocked eMac. But eMac's win out because they are easily overclockable and they came in a 1.42Ghz version. I also think the ATI GPU in the eMac was slightly better than the iMac's NVIDIA GPU. Not sure about the GPU differences though. Could have that backwards.

i found a iMac g4 i simply cannot pass up has wifi 80GB HDD everything id need even has keyboard mouse remote and other things what is the type of RAM the USB 1.1 17in has? MacTracker does not specify

[Intell]

Those take PC133 or PC-2100 depending on the CPU speed. The 800Mhz takes PC133, while the 1Ghz takes PC-2100.

[LeoTheLion89]

Those take PC133 or PC-2100 depending on the CPU speed. The 800Mhz takes PC133, while the 1Ghz takes PC-2100.

is PC2100 DDR RAM? MacTracker says PC2100 200 pin SO-DIMM meantions only one of the 2 ram slots are user accessable what exactly does that mean?

[92WardSenatorFE]

is PC2100 DDR RAM? MacTracker says PC2100 200 pin SO-DIMM meantions only one of the 2 ram slots are user accessable what exactly does that mean?

On the iMac G4, there are two RAM slots. One is user accessible, located by removing the bottom plate off the machine. The second one is internal, and requires opening up the machine to replace. I would not recommend opening one up unless you are very familiar with working on them.

[LeoTheLion89]

On the iMac G4, there are two RAM slots. One is user accessible, located by removing the bottom plate off the machine. The second one is internal, and requires opening up the machine to replace. I would not recommend opening one up unless you are very familiar with working on them.

can this adaptor fit in a eMac ive upgraded my HDD but i wanna no will this adaptor fit in a eMac?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812226024

[92WardSenatorFE]

can this adaptor fit in a eMac ive upgraded my HDD but i wanna no will this adaptor fit in a eMac?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812226024

What are you planning on using it for? I don't know much about eMac's but I don't really think you would need an adaptor like this for most upgrades. I wouldn't install adapters and stuff like that unless they are really necessary.

[havokalien]

That is a sata to IDE drive. The eMac doesn't have Sata. If your trying to use a sata drive in an eMac, I do not think you can, or it isn't worth the cost as IDE hard drives even used are dirt cheap at most e cyclers.

[Intell]

A SATA-PATA adapter would fit in an eMac. But make sure the one you get is a known good one that works with PowerPC Macs. Some don't and others are very slow.

[LeoTheLion89]

can anyone tell me if this PowerMac is good its cheap i wanna no how accurate this info is as well as if it includes wifi and BT


Detailed item info
Product Information
The Apple Power Mac G5 desktop (October, 2005) has been customized by the seller, so read the detailed listing and feel free to reach out to the seller to ask questions about specific adjustments. Without any modifications, the Apple Power Mac G5 desktop (October, 2005) is powered by a 2 GHz, 2.3 GHz, or a 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 processor that lets you multitasks with ease. Moreover, this customized desktop boasts a hard drive capacity of up to 250 GB to store all your favorite movies, music, photos, and data. Plus, this Power Mac customized desktop lets you surf the Web, download games, and stream videos from the Internet, thanks to its Ethernet ports. With a resolution of 1920x1200 pixels, the Apple Power Mac G5 desktop (October, 2005) delivers an improved visual output. What’s more, you can connect compatible devices to this Power Mac via its USB ports to transfer videos and images.

Product Identifiers
Brand Apple
Product Family Power Mac G5
Model Number A1177
MPN eBay_ApplePowerMacG5October2005

Motherboard
Video Output Interface PCI Express
Motherboard I/O Ports FireWire (IEEE1394a) x 2, FireWire (IEEE1394b) x 1, RJ45 Lan Port x 2, USB 1.1 x 2, USB 2.0 x 4

Technical Features
Expansion Bays 2 x 3.5" (Internal Access)
Expansion Slots PCI Express x16 x 1, PCI Express x4 x 2, PCI Express x8 x 1

Memory
RAM Technology DDR2 SDRAM
RAM Max Supported Size 16 GB
RAM Memory Slots Qunatity 8 x DIMMs
Max. Cache Memory 2 MB

Video
Max. Video Resolution 2560 x 1600
Video Outputs 15 Pin D-Sub VGA port x 1, DVI x 2

Audio
Audio Input Microphone, Optical Digital In
Audio Output Analog Audio, Headphones, Optical Digital, Speaker(s)

Modem
Modem Type Modem

Networking
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g
Networking Type Bluetooth, Integrated Dual 10/100/1000 Network Card

Dimensions
Depth 18.7 in.
Height 20.1 in.
Width 8.1 in.
Weight 48.8 lb.

Miscellaneous
Form Factor Tower
Release Date October, 2005
Exterior Color Silver
Other Features 64bit Ready
OS Certified Apple MacOS 9, Apple MacOS X, Apple MacOS X 10.2, MacOS X 10.4

how well will this thing play YouTube videos?

[92WardSenatorFE]

Is that the actual listing? It seems rather vague, it doesn't even say which specific processor it has. The way it is written, you could be getting a good deal, or you could be getting ripped off.

Another question, how many Macs are you planning on buying? No offense but I think you've asked us about at least 4 or 5 different Macs you plan on buying lol. ;)

Secondly, I wouldn't base the performance of the machine on whether or not it can play Youtube videos. Flash is no longer developed for PowerPC Macs and in my experience, even the best PowerPC Macs lag with Youtube (much less Intel ones)...

[LeoTheLion89]

Is that the actual listing? It seems rather vague, it doesn't even say which specific processor it has. The way it is written, you could be getting a good deal, or you could be getting ripped off.

Another question, how many Macs are you planning on buying? No offense but I think you've asked us about at least 4 or 5 different Macs you plan on buying lol. ;)

Secondly, I wouldn't base the performance of the machine on whether or not it can play Youtube videos. Flash is no longer developed for PowerPC Macs and in my experience, even the best PowerPC Macs lag with Youtube (much less Intel ones)...

sorry i left the deets out it is 2.5GHz 2GB DDR2 RAM 2TB HDD Leo installed

i only plan on one mac LOL but they all got too expencive

[92WardSenatorFE]

sorry i left the deets out it is 2.5GHz 2GB DDR2 RAM 2TB HDD Leo installed

i only plan on one mac LOL but they all got too expencive

How much are you planning on spending? I know you said you are getting it for cheap, but that really doesn't tell us much.

[LeoTheLion89]

How much are you planning on spending? I know you said you are getting it for cheap, but that really doesn't tell us much.

im not sure yet the bidding ends in less then 2 days ill waitl til its close to ending to put a bid on it if it happens to be Liquid cooled can i convert it to the traditional HeatSink/fan setup?

[havokalien]

Better off getting a used intel Mac mini. Unless you have a need for a tower an intel used Mac mini will handle web way better than an unsupported Mac for most. 10.6 o 10.7 isn't considered obsolete at this point but 10.5.8 is and that's the newest the power pcs can run. A PowerPC isn't useless but for what you keep asking just get something simple nd roll with it.

Good luck in hat ever you do.

[92WardSenatorFE]

If it's liquid cooled, I don't think it's possible to modify the system. It would be best to leave it as-is.

Better off getting a used intel Mac mini. Unless you have a need for a tower an intel used Mac mini will handle web way better than an unsupported Mac for most. 10.6 o 10.7 isn't considered obsolete at this point but 10.5.8 is and that's the newest the power pcs can run. A PowerPC isn't useless but for what you keep asking just get something simple nd roll with it.

Good luck in hat ever you do.

I would second this suggestion. If you are planning on buying this machine as a daily driver, you will find yourself falling behind really quick. PowerPC support is dropping exponentially, outside of iTunes I'm not even sure if there is much (or any) PPC software being updated by Apple. At the prices some Quad G5's sell for, you could even buy a lower spec'd used MacPro.

[LeoTheLion89]

If it's liquid cooled, I don't think it's possible to modify the system. It would be best to leave it as-is.



I would second this suggestion. If you are planning on buying this machine as a daily driver, you will find yourself falling behind really quick. PowerPC support is dropping exponentially, outside of iTunes I'm not even sure if there is much (or any) PPC software being updated by Apple. At the prices some Quad G5's sell for, you could even buy a lower spec'd used MacPro.

i agree with a poster on this site that PPC is the "real" mac Intel Macs are just a PC with a apple on them

[Nameci]

im not sure yet the bidding ends in less then 2 days ill waitl til its close to ending to put a bid on it if it happens to be Liquid cooled can i convert it to the traditional HeatSink/fan setup?

You get too excited bro. Is it going to be your first mac?

First off the description is rather vague and confusing. There is no A1177. There is A1117 which is the late 2005 Powermac G5's, the last of the Powerpc macs.

If you are getting a 2.5GHz, then that is the quad, max RAM at 16GB, PC2-4200 DDR2 533MHz. And it is liquid-cooled. And yes it will play youtube well.

There are 3 variant, 2 of which are air-cooled the dual core 2.0GHz and 2.3GHz. The 2.0GHz uses the nVidia 6600LE while the 2.3 uses the 6600 standard.

There is a thread here, but I cannot remember, but he successfully converted the liquid cooled quad to be air-cooled. Just read from the PPC mac sub-forum. Do your research well and not ask too much from other people's opinion. You will never learn if you keep doing it this way and even if most of them are helpful, they will be annoyed.

If you have done your research well, you will stumble upon this;

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_quad_2.5.html

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Better off getting a used intel Mac mini. Unless you have a need for a tower an intel used Mac mini will handle web way better than an unsupported Mac for most. 10.6 o 10.7 isn't considered obsolete at this point but 10.5.8 is and that's the newest the power pcs can run. A PowerPC isn't useless but for what you keep asking just get something simple nd roll with it.

Good luck in hat ever you do.

I have an intel mac mini late 2009, and there is no way it can beat my quad G5 on what I am doing on it. Yes it is cute, but that is it, just cute.

With latest mini, probably it would bench higher than my quad, but then again there is nothing on the latest and greatest that entices me more.

[92WardSenatorFE]

i agree with a poster on this site that PPC is the "real" mac Intel Macs are just a PC with a apple on them

I'm not arguing that they aren't. I'm a PPC fan just like everyone else on this sub forum. But at the same time, I look at the whole picture. PowerPC support is dying and newest PPC Mac's are already 5-6 years old. Support for these Macs are just going to continue to get harder and while there is still a lot of software for them, the programs are going to start to become antiquated. I wouldn't buy a PowerPC Mac and expect it to be the latest and best thing.

Also, a tip. Any auction sites that have any computers listed cheap, prices normally skyrocket at the last minute. There are a lot of people out there looking for bargains. I wouldn't treat any auction like you won it until the bidding is over.

[LeoTheLion89]

i did find a late 2006 Core 2 Duo Mini MacTracker says it supports the latest Mac OS X however this mini is runnning Tiger Server and i found a BRAND new never open copy of Snow i can buy along with it but before i decide between snow or Lion can i have a list of crucial differences between SNow and Lion and what is over all better also does this Mini take desktop DDR2 RAM or laptop DDR2 RAM? i have a 250GB 7200RPM HDD ill up it instantly too how well does a mini handle a 7200RPM laptop HDD?

[Intell]

i did find a late 2006 Core 2 Duo Mini MacTracker says it supports the latest Mac OS X however this mini is runnning Tiger Server and i found a BRAND new never open copy of Snow i can buy along with it but before i decide between snow or Lion can i have a list of crucial differences between SNow and Lion and what is over all better also does this Mini take desktop DDR2 RAM or laptop DDR2 RAM? i have a 250GB 7200RPM HDD ill up it instantly too how well does a mini handle a 7200RPM laptop HDD?

Your version of MacTracker is out of date. The late 2006 Mini was killed off when Mountain Lion came out. Intell Mini's take laptop ram. They handle 7200 rpm drives very well.

[LeoTheLion89]

Your version of MacTracker is out of date. The late 2006 Mini was killed off when Mountain Lion came out. Intell Mini's take laptop ram. They handle 7200 rpm drives very well.

how meny more years will Snow be supported?

[Intell]

how meny more years will Snow be supported?

Zero. It will only get iTunes from Apple now. Unless Apple decides to release a new version of Safari for it, but they haven't done that. iTunes support may even be dropped for Snow Leopard as well as Leopard in September/October when iOS 6 comes out.

[LeoTheLion89]

Zero. It will only get iTunes from Apple now. Unless Apple decides to release a new version of Safari for it, but they haven't done that. iTunes support may even be dropped for Snow Leopard as well as Leopard in September/October when iOS 6 comes out.

i didnt mean from apple i meant for developers like Google with Chrome or Adobe

[92WardSenatorFE]

i didnt mean from apple i meant for developers like Google with Chrome or Adobe

Probably not for long. Snow Leopard is now 2 major releases of OS X behind. Apple is making it to where it is harder for developers to support older versions of Mac OS with the App Store. I know support for several applications I use on a regular basis has already dropped (or is in the process of being dropped) for Snow Leopard.

[LeoTheLion89]

Probably not for long. Snow Leopard is now 2 major releases of OS X behind. Apple is making it to where it is harder for developers to support older versions of Mac OS with the App Store. I know support for several applications I use on a regular basis has already dropped (or is in the process of being dropped) for Snow Leopard.

i have found a mac its a MDD G4 1GHz 120GB HDD and 768MB RAM Tiger installed i will up it to 1GB RAM off the bat how well will the preform vs my eMac?

[Zeke D]

On my local CL there is a MDD DP1.42 listed for $100. I so wish I had a Benjamin right now.

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i have found a mac its a MDD G4 1GHz 120GB HDD and 768MB RAM Tiger installed i will up it to 1GB RAM off the bat how well will the preform vs my eMac?

I suspect for gaming performance it will perform quite well, especially with a better discrete video card.

Off topic (kinda): When playing sim city 4, I noticed an amazing improvement going from the eMac to the g5, so I would expect the same for a multi processor MDD.

[LeoTheLion89]

On my local CL there is a MDD DP1.42 listed for $100. I so wish I had a Benjamin right now.

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I suspect for gaming performance it will perform quite well, especially with a better discrete video card.

Off topic (kinda): When playing sim city 4, I noticed an amazing improvement going from the eMac to the g5, so I would expect the same for a multi processor MDD.

its only a single processor model i will get the DP upgrade later can i run the DP with the heatsink of the Single processor?

i will be using me keyboard from my iMac g3 tray load this keyboard has no eject or volume buttons how can i use those functions with that keyboard?

[Zeke D]

its only a single processor model i will get the DP upgrade later can i run the DP with the heatsink of the Single processor?

i will be using me keyboard from my iMac g3 tray load this keyboard has no eject or volume buttons how can i use those functions with that keyboard?

usually not for the HS. There is usually a void between the daughter card to assist with radiant heat. The HS usually has a portion that makes contact with the CPU and it is specifically lined up with the location of the CPU.

As for volume and eject, I believe one of the Function buttons will still eject (F16 i think?) Keep in mind the volume can be controlled by the title bar. It's a shame you are not close to me, I would just give you a slot loading G3 keyboard with volume and eject buttons.

[LeoTheLion89]

usually not for the HS. There is usually a void between the daughter card to assist with radiant heat. The HS usually has a portion that makes contact with the CPU and it is specifically lined up with the location of the CPU.

As for volume and eject, I believe one of the Function buttons will still eject (F16 i think?) Keep in mind the volume can be controlled by the title bar. It's a shame you are not close to me, I would just give you a slot loading G3 keyboard with volume and eject buttons.

the MDD does not have the wifi installed (i dont think the seller doesnt say) but i have a PCI Linksys WMP54g uses the Ralink RT61 chip will this work in the MDD? i also have a PCI SATA RAID card using the Silicon chip well this work?

[Nameci]

usually not for the HS. There is usually a void between the daughter card to assist with radiant heat. The HS usually has a portion that makes contact with the CPU and it is specifically lined up with the location of the CPU.

As for volume and eject, I believe one of the Function buttons will still eject (F16 i think?) Keep in mind the volume can be controlled by the title bar. It's a shame you are not close to me, I would just give you a slot loading G3 keyboard with volume and eject buttons.

Eject usually is F12.

[LeoTheLion89]

As for volume and eject, I believe one of the Function buttons will still eject (F16 i think?) Keep in mind the volume can be controlled by the title bar. It's a shame you are not close to me, I would just give you a slot loading G3 keyboard with volume and eject buttons.

u can ship it to me :D

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Eject usually is F12.

yea i know but thats with a non apple keyboard

[Zeke D]

u can ship it to me :D

If I were presently employed, I would gladly send it to you.

[LeoTheLion89]

anyone have any info to tell me related to my wifi and SATA cards?

[havokalien]

Pc cards in a Mac are a toss up. If you look at the osx86 project they may have kernels you can use to run them but if they don't have drivers for th Mac then no. Hardware isn't the issue per say it's software.


Good luck.

[LeoTheLion89]

Pc cards in a Mac are a toss up. If you look at the osx86 project they may have kernels you can use to run them but if they don't have drivers for th Mac then no. Hardware isn't the issue per say it's software.


Good luck.

but macs are UNIX just like Linux these cards all work on Linux out of the box OSx86 project has nothing on my Linksys card and says the sound card dont work but thats not saying anything about it working in a REAL mac

EDIT: its been reported the Linksys WMP54G works in a Sawtooth with leopard reported as a AirPort card
EDIT: i cant find anything on the Audigy SE working on a PowerMac but Sound Blaster Live card do but i know SB Live! cards have a different chipset
EDIT my SATA RAID card has the Silicon Image 3512 Chipset is this verified Mac compatibile? It used the si3112r driver

[Intell]

Mac OS X is more UNIX like than Linux. Linux is an unauthorized clone of Bell Lab's UNIX that has since gone quite far from it. Mac OS X is also based off of a clone of UNIX call BSD.

[LeoTheLion89]

just looking at online guides as to upgrading my MDD when i get it one thing in the images is this daughter card not mentioned in any guides at all

http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/XWV2QhLSVY1cp4gs.large
what is the green daughter card directly behind the PCI Slots?

also does the MDD support Dual Channel RAM?

[Zeke D]

just looking at online guides as to upgrading my MDD when i get it one thing in the images is this daughter card not mentioned in any guides at all
what is the green daughter card directly behind the PCI Slots?

also does the MDD support Dual Channel RAM?
That's a modem card. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but usually only the CPU is referred to as a daughter card.

[LeoTheLion89]

That's a modem card. Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but usually only the CPU is referred to as a daughter card.

is it removable? no one uses modems anymore!

[Intell]

Yes its removable. MDD's use DDR ram, but they don't interleave it like G5s do.

[Zeke D]

is it removable? no one uses modems anymore!

You can remove it by unscrewing the two screws, and gently prying back the black tab. I would suggest leaving it in there, it doesn't consume any CPU cycles or memory, plus leaving your unit with original components like the modem is never a bad thing.

[LeoTheLion89]

You can remove it by unscrewing the two screws, and gently prying back the black tab. I would suggest leaving it in there, it doesn't consume any CPU cycles or memory, plus leaving your unit with original components like the modem is never a bad thing.

CPU cycles aint wat i care about MDDs are called Windtunnels they run super hot and loud even AFTER the apple kit for it i wanted to remove the modem from the unit and the port from the back of the unit so i can mount 2 fans on the CPU (one on top and one behind) as well as 2 rear exhaust fans i know the system fan is 120mm but what is the size of the OD bay fan and the PSU fans? removing the modem might to a tad on cooling

[Zeke D]

CPU cycles aint wat i care about MDDs are called Windtunnels they run super hot and loud even AFTER the apple kit for it i wanted to remove the modem from the unit and the port from the back of the unit so i can mount 2 fans on the CPU (one on top and one behind) as well as 2 rear exhaust fans i know the system fan is 120mm but what is the size of the OD bay fan and the PSU fans? removing the modem might to a tad on cooling

Possibly, I suspect it wouldn't make a lot of difference though.

[LeoTheLion89]

can the MDD part of the MAc be removed? being i get 2 ODD bays i was gonna install a Card reader into it (since it has a speaker i dont need to use my speaker bay) so i was wondering it its easy or possible to take the cover off so i can install the reader and not have to filp the cover down to use it

[92WardSenatorFE]

can the MDD part of the MAc be removed? being i get 2 ODD bays i was gonna install a Card reader into it (since it has a speaker i dont need to use my speaker bay) so i was wondering it its easy or possible to take the cover off so i can install the reader and not have to filp the cover down to use it

I really would not recommend doing this. Just buy a USB card reader and unplug it when you're not using it. You will save yourself a lot of time and you won't have to tear up the case.

[LeoTheLion89]

I really would not recommend doing this. Just buy a USB card reader and unplug it when you're not using it. You will save yourself a lot of time and you won't have to tear up the case.

i never said tear up the case i know eMac u can manually open the drive panel can u manually open the MDDs panels in such a way?

[92WardSenatorFE]

i never said tear up the case i know eMac u can manually open the drive panel can u manually open the MDDs panels in such a way?

Yes you can manually open the drive panel.

[LeoTheLion89]

Yes you can manually open the drive panel.

thing i wonder on is y does the MDD have 2 driver bays in fact so does the QuickSilver but question is y would u want 2 ODDs in a Mac?

[Nameci]

thing i wonder on is y does the MDD have 2 driver bays in fact so does the QuickSilver but question is y would u want 2 ODDs in a Mac?

I want because I can.

[Intell]

thing i wonder on is y does the MDD have 2 driver bays in fact so does the QuickSilver but question is y would u want 2 ODDs in a Mac?

At one point in time, copying cd's was a big thing. Having two drive bays made this easy. It could also be used to quickly burn discs if the machine is used for professional purposes.

[GermanyChris]

I'm working through ripping 600 DVD's, when that is complete I'm going to start a 2000 DVD collection being able to do more than 1 at a time is beneficial.

My former hackintosh is now a linux box ripping 3 DVD's at a time with K9copy, the G5 does one with MTR, and the MacBook does one with Mac DVD Ripper Pro. I can do about 15-20 a day.

[LeoTheLion89]

I'm working through ripping 600 DVD's, when that is complete I'm going to start a 2000 DVD collection being able to do more than 1 at a time is beneficial.

My former hackintosh is now a linux box ripping 3 DVD's at a time with K9copy, the G5 does one with MTR, and the MacBook does one with Mac DVD Ripper Pro. I can do about 15-20 a day.

my hackintosh screwed up i have no wifi and i cant get it to work again

[GermanyChris]

my hackintosh screwed up i have no wifi and i cant get it to work again

I don't do WiFi if I don't have to so I can't help you much there...

[LeoTheLion89]

I don't do WiFi if I don't have to so I can't help you much there...

it has a Broadcom BCM4311 chip im surprised it dont work upon install since AirPorts use broadcom chips or did this change with the Intel models?

[PowerPCMacMan]

Yes, at one point in time this was a important, though I still do it on my Mac Pro. Two instances of disk utility helps me to burn two discs simultaneously on my Mac Pro. It has its benefits, but most modern Macs these days don't ship with superdrives anymore.

But, what if one wants to watch a movie? Surely, a superdrive would be good for that purpose though. I'd hate to have movie images all over my desktop when I can just burn them to DVDs.

At one point in time, copying cd's was a big thing. Having two drive bays made this easy. It could also be used to quickly burn discs if the machine is used for professional purposes.