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PCWebbJR
Aug 11, 2012, 12:35 PM
I just got my rMBP yesterday with ML installed. I've been using a firewire, 1TB G-Tech external hard drive with absolutely no issues to speak of until now. It it formatted with mac os extended journal.

When it is plugged in it takes forever for my computer to restart and often will freeze the system. It has gotten to the point now that I need to wipe the drive because there are so many corrupted files on it.

When it isn't plugged in my computer restarts lightning fast and has no issues whatsoever.

Clearly it's an issue with communicating to the external, but I know no more than that.

Anyone else having similar issues now that they've upgraded to ML?



charlieegan3
Aug 11, 2012, 12:46 PM
My issue isn't really the same but since my ML upgrade my time machine backups have been painfully slow over what is meant to be a fast USB3 connection...

PCWebbJR
Aug 11, 2012, 03:11 PM
Now I had a kernel panic without the external connected. I'm confused by what's going on.

Interval Since Last Panic Report: 55938 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 203AA73B-E27D-4107-B2BE-A9BDC2CAE7D9

Sat Aug 11 12:51:40 2012
Machine-check capabilities 0x0000000000000c09:
family: 6 model: 58 stepping: 9 microcode: 18
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM CPU @ 2.60GHz
9 error-reporting banks
threshold-based error status present
extended corrected memory error handling present
Processor 0: no machine-check status reported
Processor 1: no machine-check status reported
Processor 2: no valid machine-check state
Processor 3: no valid machine-check state
Processor 4: no valid machine-check state
Processor 5: no valid machine-check state
Processor 6: no valid machine-check state
Processor 7: no valid machine-check state
panic(cpu 7 caller 0xffffff802dcb8389): "Machine Check at 0xffffff7fafbbf92f, registers:\n" "CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x00000001096c6868, CR3: 0x00000000305ff000, CR4: 0x00000000001606e0\n" "RAX: 0x0000000000000031, RBX: 0xffffff804fe97800, RCX: 0x0000000000000001, RDX: 0x0000000000000000\n" "RSP: 0xffffff8201e53d70, RBP: 0xffffff8201e53da0, RSI: 0x0000000000000007, RDI: 0x0000000000000007\n" "R8: 0x0000000000000000, R9: 0x7ffffffffffffffe, R10: 0xffffff802e2bdc27, R11: 0x0000000000000201\n" "R12: 0x0000000000000007, R13: 0xffffff80500ad740, R14: 0x0000000000000000, R15: 0x00000000000008f8\n" "RFL: 0x0000000000000046, RIP: 0xffffff7fafbbf92f, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010\n" "Error code: 0x0000000000000000\n"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2050.7.9/osfmk/i386/trap_native.c:280
Backtrace (CPU 7), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff81f5addec0 : 0xffffff802dc1d5f6
0xffffff81f5addf30 : 0xffffff802dcb8389
0xffffff81f5ade0a0 : 0xffffff802dcced7f
0xffffff8201e53da0 : 0xffffff7fafbb012e
0xffffff8201e53e80 : 0xffffff7fafbaf515
0xffffff8201e53f30 : 0xffffff802dcb8bdb
0xffffff8201e53f50 : 0xffffff802dc2f193
0xffffff8201e53f90 : 0xffffff802dc2f448
0xffffff8201e53fb0 : 0xffffff802dcb2677
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(196.0)[BBF44990-49F7-3780-AF55-C26B48EDE4C4]@0xffffff7fafbad000->0xffffff7fafbd5fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
12A269

Kernel version:
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Kernel text base: 0xffffff802dc00000
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benthewraith
Aug 11, 2012, 03:35 PM
My issue isn't really the same but since my ML upgrade my time machine backups have been painfully slow over what is meant to be a fast USB3 connection...

Ever since Mountain Lion, my external hard drive's permissions have prevented me from doing anything without typing a password. I don't want to have to reformat it. :(

philxor
Aug 11, 2012, 03:53 PM
I'm also having an issue with TM backups, they start and then hang and take forever. I'm about to reformat the drive and see if that helps.

trickness
Aug 12, 2012, 09:41 AM
Since I "upgraded", it takes my Macbook Pro a lot longer to access my Firewire 800 drive, seems to be putting it to sleep or something. CD rips take way longer too, there's definitely something going on.

hafr
Aug 12, 2012, 10:01 AM
I'm also having an issue with TM backups, they start and then hang and take forever. I'm about to reformat the drive and see if that helps.

Do they actually start, or are you stuck at "preparing..."? Check console to see if TM is just doing a deep scan of the backup, it might be that. In that case, just let it take its time.

PCWebbJR
Aug 12, 2012, 11:36 AM
Since I "upgraded", it takes my Macbook Pro a lot longer to access my Firewire 800 drive, seems to be putting it to sleep or something. CD rips take way longer too, there's definitely something going on.

Yea, my drive is firewire 800. when i restart it takes eternity to shut off and when I boot up there are freezes. TM takes forever to back up as well.

ixodes
Aug 12, 2012, 11:46 AM
Try this, we had this problem at work with five rMBP's, it fixed ours.

Go to: System preferences / uncheck sleep hard drive.

RWinOR
Aug 12, 2012, 12:42 PM
My issue isn't really the same but since my ML upgrade my time machine backups have been painfully slow over what is meant to be a fast USB3 connection...

I am also have major issues with Time Machine. I was trying to back up via Airport Extreme to a Western Digital 3 TB drive. It took over 2 weeks to back up 630GB!! Then it reported the backup was corrupted and needed to be redone. URgh. So I tried to restart it to no avail It would just sit for days reporting preparing HD, how long does that take?????.

Hooked my drive straight into my computer, It has been running for about 3 days and only has 100gig. WTF???

My machine just locked up again for about the 20th or so time in the past few weeks. I rebooted and now for the second time my hard disk is read only. I cannot even move an icon on my desktop!

I called apple support for help to uninstall ML and put Lion back, they said to do a fresh install. Great, Mountain lion cleared my previous Lion backups off my back up disk. That means if I go this route I have now lost Everything!

While the back up is running every other system is painfully slow, yet the back ups do not happen in a timely fashion. Where is all the processor power going????

At this point I am not very excited about Mountain Lion. Worst upgrade ever.

hafr
Aug 12, 2012, 02:43 PM
I am also have major issues with Time Machine. I was trying to back up via Airport Extreme to a Western Digital 3 TB drive. It took over 2 weeks to back up 630GB!! Then it reported the backup was corrupted and needed to be redone. URgh. So I tried to restart it to no avail It would just sit for days reporting preparing HD, how long does that take?????.

Hooked my drive straight into my computer, It has been running for about 3 days and only has 100gig. WTF???

My machine just locked up again for about the 20th or so time in the past few weeks. I rebooted and now for the second time my hard disk is read only. I cannot even move an icon on my desktop!

I called apple support for help to uninstall ML and put Lion back, they said to do a fresh install. Great, Mountain lion cleared my previous Lion backups off my back up disk. That means if I go this route I have now lost Everything!

While the back up is running every other system is painfully slow, yet the back ups do not happen in a timely fashion. Where is all the processor power going????

At this point I am not very excited about Mountain Lion. Worst upgrade ever.

Have you tried using Carbon Copy Cloner instead? It's free for 30 days, so worst case scenario you just back up your computer using CCC and then do a clean install of Lion. Then just go into your CCC backup and take whatever you need from there.

RWinOR
Aug 12, 2012, 06:10 PM
Have you tried using Carbon Copy Cloner instead? It's free for 30 days, so worst case scenario you just back up your computer using CCC and then do a clean install of Lion. Then just go into your CCC backup and take whatever you need from there.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into this.

olkhovp
Aug 15, 2012, 06:39 PM
My 2 cents: I am using a 2010 iMac and tried a completely new 250+Gb Time Machine copy to a WD Passport USB 2.0 500Gb external HD. It's taking like more than 2 days. Never took that long before. Not a web or wi-fi issue. Before Mountain Lion, should have taken 3-4 hours max. Any ideas?

Mr. Retrofire
Aug 15, 2012, 07:06 PM
Any ideas?
Yeah, disable the spotlight indexing on the Time Machine volume (System Preferences -> Spotlight).

RWinOR
Aug 15, 2012, 07:46 PM
My 2 cents: I am using a 2010 iMac and tried a completely new 250+Gb Time Machine copy to a WD Passport USB 2.0 500Gb external HD. It's taking like more than 2 days. Never took that long before. Not a web or wi-fi issue. Before Mountain Lion, should have taken 3-4 hours max. Any ideas?

I can tell you what Apple tech support told me for a similar issue. If it is not time capsule Mountain Lion will not support it. It does not mean it will not work It just means if it does your lucky and if it does not well too bad.

MY system backed up for over 2 weeks and only delivered a corrupted back up, then I hooked straight into my computer and finally bailed after a few days and only a fraction of the way done. Lion would perform the same task in less than one day through wifi.

I have had several suggestions that I move to third party back up and abandon apples time machine. That is what I am looking into.

I sure hope Apple Software Engineers are reading these post about how poorly time machine is working and fix it soon. Not sure how something so rudimentary and basic could make it through beta testing?????

Good Luck.

Mr. Retrofire
Aug 15, 2012, 07:54 PM
I sure hope Apple Software Engineers are reading these post about how poorly time machine is working and fix it soon. Not sure how something so rudimentary and basic could make it through beta testing?????
Please send Apple your feedback:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Thanks! :-)

RWinOR
Aug 15, 2012, 08:18 PM
Please send Apple your feedback:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Thanks! :-)

Thanks for the link, but I have already spent > 10 hours on the phone trouble shooting providing feedback and asking how to upgrade my system back to Lion. If they do not know how I feel and how it is working for me then they are not listening or paying attention. Mountain Lion = GIANT Fail at this point. Perhaps the next service pack will fix some of the "Basic" over looks. What makes this so Disappointing for me, is everything I have gotten from Apple to this point has been stellar. I expected more from them for a major release like this. My entire home is in the Apple eco system, Routers, computers, phones, iPads, iPads etc. everything was working perfect up to this release, now I am rebooting my machine like a Windows 3.0 box. Frustrating!!!!

olkhovp
Aug 19, 2012, 09:06 AM
Thanks to dolfke in Apple Support Communities Blog, running "sudo tmdiagnose" in the terninal really worked. I couldn't tell you why, but my TM backup time increased by 10X's.

For ref:

dolfke

Re: time machine very slow with mountain lion

Aug 19, 2012 6:25 AM (in response to 1tombhome)


How to run tmdiagnose


1) Launch Terminal.app (/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app)
2) Enter the command text below followed by the Return key on the Terminal command line:


sudo tmdiagnose


3) Enter your admin password when prompted and wait for all of the tmdiagnose processes to finish.

zhenya
Aug 21, 2012, 06:59 PM
My issue is not with Time Machine (which works great on my external drive), but in general I am having issues where restarts are often slow and at times the entire machine freezes up with my fw800 drive attached.

This is a new drive, and I've never operated long-term with a firewire drive connected to my iMac so I can't say if this issue is new to Mountain Lion or not. Is this a common issue with firewire drives and Macs, or is there something else going on?

jk73
Aug 21, 2012, 07:40 PM
I've had an rMBP since July 11. I had zero crashes or restart/sleep problems until the Thunderbolt-to-FireWire adapter came out and I started moving files off my old PowerBook. Since then, I've had the same issues mentioned by the OP -- e.g., two system crashes, very long shutdown and restart times, refusal to wake from sleep if the external is attached, etc.

The other day, I restarted with my PowerBook connected via TB-to-FireWire, and it was still on the start-up screen after 2 minutes. I unplugged the Thunderbolt adapter and bingo, the computer was ready less than 3 seconds later.

In my case, I should be done transferring files from my old PB within a few days, and I'll have no more use for the TB-to-FireWire adapter. I'm still happy Apple released it, but its lack of stability has been both annoying and troublesome.

ZipZap
Sep 2, 2012, 09:21 AM
I just got my rMBP yesterday with ML installed. I've been using a firewire, 1TB G-Tech external hard drive with absolutely no issues to speak of until now. It it formatted with mac os extended journal.

When it is plugged in it takes forever for my computer to restart and often will freeze the system. It has gotten to the point now that I need to wipe the drive because there are so many corrupted files on it.

When it isn't plugged in my computer restarts lightning fast and has no issues whatsoever.

Clearly it's an issue with communicating to the external, but I know no more than that.

Anyone else having similar issues now that they've upgraded to ML?

I had this issue with my external HDs. I was using USB 3.0 goflex enclosures. I switched to Thermaltake Max 5Gs and the problem is completely gone. I thinks its USB 3.0 related. Apple has not implemented it well.

I do have an alternate issue since upgrading to ML....my external drives will not reconnect when waking from sleep.

I believe ML is not interrogating the drives properly. Just a guess.

lajji
Sep 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
Hi,
I have a very similar problem with a mbpro since I (recently) updated it to Mountain Lion. The HDD causing problems is a Seagate (ST31500341AS) connected with USB3.
I verified that it has nothing to do with Time Machine.
When connected to the mbp, it causes complete freeze of the computer (ie. impossible to do ANYthing => hard power off needed).
I'll try to remove the hdd from it's case and connect it with USB2 to check if the problems come from there....

KrakenChaos
Sep 22, 2012, 12:14 PM
Try this, we had this problem at work with five rMBP's, it fixed ours.

Go to: System preferences / uncheck sleep hard drive.

I was unable to use my external harddrive with exFAT partition. This helped solve the problem. It's working fine now.

LosGatosCat
Sep 22, 2012, 07:10 PM
I was also experiencing a multi day backup with Time Machine on a Passport Essential external drive for 170GB. I downloaded for free (a request for a donation appears, which you can decide on later); it works beautifully and my 170GB backed up in 90 minutes on my Passport Essential. I'll make the donation. IBackup appears to be very clean. I'll wait till Apple cleans up the problem with Time Machine backups, but Ibackup is a great alternative.

jbzcar
Sep 23, 2012, 02:33 AM
Strange problems...

I haven't had any issues with Time Machine backups on my '11/11" Air on ML. I backup wirelessly to a "Time Machine" I setup on my wife's Windows box ( http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-howto/31609-how-to-make-a-windows-time-machine-server-part-1 ) and it flies. Not as fast as a directly attached disk, of course, but quite reasonable.

I also run a CCC backup to an image stored on her computer every night.

thirteenthree
Sep 24, 2012, 01:05 AM
Just to chime in here, when I select the option to encrypt my TM backups, I mount the volume successfully and perform a full backup.

-but- subsequent times I plug in the TM disk it asks for the password, and declines what I enter.

In desperation I changed it to my FirstnameLastname so I could be positive I had it right, and had the same issue. I've used diskutil to erase the volumes and remove the password several times with the same result.

Tonight I am going to pull the external drive out of its housing (its 2.5" sata) and put it in a spare Thinkpad, because im going to run DBAN (Destructive Boot And Nuke) on the darn thing and try it all one more time.

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I was also experiencing a multi day backup with Time Machine on a Passport Essential external drive for 170GB. I downloaded for free (a request for a donation appears, which you can decide on later); it works beautifully and my 170GB backed up in 90 minutes on my Passport Essential. I'll make the donation. IBackup appears to be very clean. I'll wait till Apple cleans up the problem with Time Machine backups, but Ibackup is a great alternative.

Not a bad suggestion. I am happy with Crashplan Pro, but I still want an encrypted hard copy :)

DavidRavenMoon
Oct 6, 2012, 12:17 PM
My issue isn't really the same but since my ML upgrade my time machine backups have been painfully slow over what is meant to be a fast USB3 connection...

Me too! It was running great, but then got to the point where the hourly backups took so long that it hadn't backed up anything in two days!

The trick to fix it is supposed to be deleting your Spotlight index and letting it rebuild. That can take hours.

I ended up having to delete my backups and starting over, and it's going to take 10 days to back up 579GBs!

Clearly something is broken.

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Ever since Mountain Lion, my external hard drive's permissions have prevented me from doing anything without typing a password. I don't want to have to reformat it. :(

Make sure the checkbox "Shared folder" is not checked. This happened to me yesterday. It made the disk read only to me.

Then while in the Get Info window, click the padlock, type in your password, and then click the box "Ignore ownership on this volume" at the bottom of the window.

Also if that doesn't work, uncheck that box, change the permissions, and then check it again.

charlieegan3
Oct 6, 2012, 12:19 PM
Me too! It was running great, but then got to the point where the hourly backups took so long that it hadn't backed up anything in two days!

The trick to fix it is supposed to be deleting your Spotlight index and letting it rebuild. That can take hours.

I ended up having to delete my backups and starting over, and it's going to take 10 days to back up 579GBs!

Clearly something is broken

Mine still go really slow.

DavidRavenMoon
Oct 6, 2012, 12:33 PM
Mine still go really slow.

Yeah, it didn't fix mine either. I'm tempted to start over with Carbon Copy Cloner. I was going to do that, but it was going to take 6 days.

curmudgeon32
Nov 17, 2012, 11:52 AM
Not sure if this is related, but I've been having a lot of trouble with a File Vault encrypted FireWire drive too. I just got this drive a couple days ago, and it has all of my iTunes music and videos on it.

I have several user accounts on my machine, and I found that if I logged into a user account (say, the one I have for guests) that did not have the password for the drive saved in the keychain, it was causing a hard freeze. Instead of just asking for the password, it was freezing. I figured this out because if I logged into that account without the FireWire drive connected, everything was fine.

If I logged into my main account, where the password was saved, it wasn't really a problem.

Anyway, since there's nothing really sensitive on this drive (just music and video) I turned off Filevault encryption, and hopefully that will clear up problems.

williemyers
Nov 26, 2012, 11:20 AM
sort of tagging along here, but I've just connected an external 2TB drive (with 4 partitions) via FW400 to my MacPro 8-core.
I've got 2 boot partitions - - booting in 10.6.8, the external shows up instantly on my desktop....booting in 10.8.2, the external takes 80-90 sec. to mount. TM is OFF, Spotlight is OFF, let drives sleep is OFF.
hmmm....

mschmalenbach
Nov 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
My external drives are also taking longer to mount - most noticeable since updating to 10.8.3.

And I'm getting a LOT of disk thrashing - over a period of 2 days Activity told me my MacBook Pro 7,1 had READ nearly 19Tb of data - I only have about 2.5Tb on my internal & 2 external drives!

mmatyas
Nov 28, 2012, 03:46 PM
I used to mount 5 partitions on an external 2 GB LaCie FW800 drive under 10.7 without problem. Coincidental with move to 10.8, I have applications hang and extremely slow GUI response when the drive is mounted - but not always. Usually after the drive has been mounted a while and the machine has gone to sleep for some period. Upon wake, screen saver password is very slow and I get pinwheel when trying to access already launched apps - including Finder. if I unplug FW drive, things usually come back if I do it right away.

I run Time Machine to a Time Capsule and that runs fine. The hang problem occurs even if nothing is accessing any of the FW mounted volumes. I have disabled spotlight and virus checking on external volumes.

UPDATE: Go to http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/driver.htm?id=10250 and download the LaCie Mac firmware updater app. Update the LaCie firmware to get rid of "ECO Mode" and everything is good again.

larsonbp
Jun 19, 2013, 05:53 PM
Hi there, just wanted to add what's been happening with me.

2008 Model Mac Pro desktop with Mountain Lion.

Bought this machine used recently and everything was great for a few weeks.
Was putting off transferring all my old files from the last computer until a few weeks ago. Old computer didn't have Firewire 800, but my Lacie external HD did so I thought "hey I'll start using the Firewire 800 port".

Anyways this is when my problems started (It took my about 2 weeks to realize it though, I hadn't made the connection initially that it started as soon as I connected the external HD).

What started happening was the computer would turn on and keyboard and mouse would be unresponsive. I could see the desktop, I could move the cursor, but if I clicked anything nothing would happen. I even restarted in safe mode and the same thing happens (actually couldn't log on, because I couldn't type the admin password due to keyboard being non-responsive).
This had been happening for a couple weeks (not every time about 50% of the time I would say). If it did happen I would just wait about 10 minutes and then everything is back to normal.

Anyways, just made the connection a couple days ago that it has to do with using Firewire 800. The computer had went to sleep, woke it back up, started itunes and tried to play a file (all my music is on the external HD) and as soon as I tried, finder is not responding. I try force quitting and restarting it but no go. I restart the computer but it gets hung up on the grey screen right before you see the apple logo. I try hard booting again and same thing. Meanwhile I'm noticing that my external is spinning pretty hard and doesn't stop even when computer is shut off. So I turn it off and disconnect it. Now it starts up just fine.

I switched the external to using USB instead of Firewire and no problems since. I would love to use the Firewire though.....

Brewyet
Aug 19, 2013, 02:45 PM
Hi there! I need some help!! I know this is an old thread, but, I JUST switched over to ML from Snow Leopard on my 2 MBP's. I have a Raidon RAID drive that I have been using for several years. After upgrading the OS, I plugged in the raid drive with the firewire cable like I've been doing for years....I almost **** myself. LOL. At first it did nothing! Then, It was SLOW! Like unusable. I started doing research and happened upon this thread and others. I found that using USB works fine on both lapotops. And, my iMac (still running Snow Leopard) works fine with Firewire.

I also have a fairly new WD My passport FW portable drive. It works fine and is very fast on the Laptops.

Has anyone discovered why this happens with the RAID drives? Is it due to the firewire controller in the raid drive having an incompatibility issue with ML? I wish they would just get along! :-)

I need to purchase another raid drive asap. I don't want to get another one that won't work with the firewire. I'm so bummed. I was fat, dumb, and happy with Snow Leopard......I should have NEVER upgraded. :-(

zhenya
Aug 19, 2013, 02:58 PM
Have you checked for a firmware update for your drive from the manufacturer? LaCie eventually released one for my drive and it has been fine since.

Brewyet
Aug 19, 2013, 03:13 PM
Have you checked for a firmware update for your drive from the manufacturer? LaCie eventually released one for my drive and it has been fine since.

Thanks! I tried emailing Raidon about this twice, but, no reply. There is nothing on their website either. Def not going back with this same company. :-(

aaronnandi
Sep 26, 2013, 02:00 PM
Just wanted to post this for anyone else who may, like me, stumble upon this thread with the same problem. Anytime my external drive was connected via USB3, it would freeze the whole system up with the spinning wheel and the only thing that would fix it is to disconnect the drive and reboot. Others have posted the same problem. I did like the others suggested with their LaCie drives and downloaded the Seagate firmware updater and updated the firmware on my external drive. My problem was immediately resolved and I'm currently in the middle of the first time machine backup that I've done in over 6 months because of this problem.

Thanks to those that posted their solutions. Hopefully this helps others as well.

djjoshuacarl
Nov 21, 2013, 11:45 AM
Hey Gents,

I also would like to throw some data your way as Im experiencing this, but in a different fashion.

Im a video DJ and I use a Seagate 1.5 tb FW800 drive
I had been on Snow Leopard with this configuration since 2010 (i7 17" MBP)
I upgraded (eheeemmmm) to Mountain Lion finally, last month.

now, for us, using external hard drives requires a few steps, IE proper formating of the drive, ensuring the sleep function is off, ect ect
ya know for the best performace, HD viceo run 100-250 mb and they are constantly being pinged and loaded into the software, in this case Serato Scratch Live and Mix Emergency.

the way I stumbled across this is a bit odd.
when in the Software you can delete files two ways
a. Ctrl + Delete = Deletion from the software only
b ctrl + shift + Delete = Deletion from the software, and from storage (and shown immediatly with the deleted file in the trash)

one day, I was deleteing some duplicates and such... and they would not delete off the external harddrive. (but the same files, copies of them WOULD delete off the internal, which screamed at me permissions)
i found a handful of users all with the same problem, and none reached an actual solution.

I brought the problem to their tech support and we went back and forth with some ideas, and they pointed me here.
Ironically in trying to figure all this out, I wasnt able to figure out what solved the deleting issie, I changed permissions, checked sleep. re-wrote database files.... but the final move was a re-installation of the software.

which i know, doesent really make sense, unless when re-installing a new handshake between the software and the OS was created.
seeig how I upgraded, and did NOT do a fresh install of ML Im wondering if the software that did not have a ML upgrade AFTER the installation might be stalling with outdated permissions from the prior OS?

if you couldnt figure it out, Im the worst sort of user.... knows just enough to cause a problem....lol.

thanks fellas.