Apple Seeds New Beta of OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.1 to Developers

MacRumors · Aug 17, 2012

Apple has seeded a new beta of OS X 10.8.1 to developers, exactly a week after the first build came out, according to 9to5Mac.

The release has a build number of 12B17 and Apple reports no known issues, but asks developers to focus on a wide variety of areas for their testing. The delta update -- where only items that have changed are downloaded -- weighs in at 43.27MB.

According to 9to5Mac, developers have been asked to test Active Directory, Microsoft Exchange in Mail, PAC proxies in Safari, SMB, USB, and Wi-Fi and audio when connected to the Apple Thunderbolt display -- the same list of items as the prior release.

The OS X 10.8.1 seed is available for download via the OS X Developer portal at developer.apple.com.

Article Link: Apple Seeds New Beta of OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.1 to Developers

Cynicalone · Aug 17, 2012

Possible release next week since there are no known issues.

All things considered Mountain Lion has been pretty much problem free for a 10.x.0 release.

keysofanxiety · Aug 17, 2012

I'm really enjoying ML so far.

Ulf1103 · Aug 17, 2012

Cynicalone said:
Possible release next week since there are no known issues.

All things considered Mountain Lion has been pretty much problem free for a 10.x.0 release.

Then please, read every post in this thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4135250?start=0&tstart=0

and then report back

Cynicalone · Aug 17, 2012

Ulf1103 said:
Then please, read every post in this thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4135250?start=0&tstart=0

and then report back

I've read a lot of complaints about it.

But on my 2011 Macbook Air my battery life has actually improved with Mountain Lion.

I had a bit of an issue with getting Messages to work, but AppleCare was able to sort that out. Other than that I can't think of a single major issue with it. Which is pretty amazing for a first release.

kronborg · Aug 17, 2012

You forgot iCal (well, Calendar) in the list of things to focus on. Hopefully this annoying bug is gone.

3282868 · Aug 17, 2012

Ulf1103 said:
Then please, read every post in this thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4135250?start=0&tstart=0

and then report back

Amen. As an ADC developer/member, the .1 update has caused many issues, especially with graphics. My 12-Core Mac Pro is a mess after this update, while my current gen 27" iMac is fine. Go figure. Installing this update now (crosses fingers)

50548 · Aug 17, 2012

bedifferent said:
Amen. As an ADC developer/member, the .1 update has caused many issues, especially with graphics. My 12-Core Mac Pro is a mess after this update, while my current gen 27" iMac is fine. Go figure. Installing this update now (crosses fingers)

So 10.8.0 is a train wreck and 10.8.1 fixes nothing...what can we expect, then?

voyagerd · Aug 17, 2012

Ulf1103 said:
Then please, read every post in this thread:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4135250?start=0&tstart=0

and then report back

I haven't noticed changes in battery life on my MacBook Pro, however after Lion came out, my iPhone 4S's battery has been lasting only 4 hours without much use. Go figure.

eternalife · Aug 17, 2012

Cynicalone said:
All things considered Mountain Lion has been pretty much problem free for a 10.x.0 release.

Huh? Where did you hear that? Tell that to my battery life. Mountain Lion (for me) is close to useless away from my home (or a power source).

MrNomNoms · Aug 17, 2012

eternalife said:
Huh? Where did you hear that? Tell that to my battery life. Mountain Lion (for me) is close to useless away from my home (or a power source).

Clean install or upgrade?

rick98761 · Aug 17, 2012

Does this update allow you to tie your phone number into messages like the iPad running iOS 6 beta? I have iOS 6 on my phone and iPad and would love to be able to use my laptop and desktop for texting also.

hauntvictim · Aug 17, 2012

MrNomNoms said:
Clean install or upgrade?

upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion to ML. Hated it, slow crappy. Then did a clean install! It runs like a brand new Mac!!! No complaints, except iMessages I think
that is a train wreck!!!

r.harris1 · Aug 17, 2012

BRLawyer said:
So 10.8.0 is a train wreck and 10.8.1 fixes nothing...what can we expect, then?

My guess is no, but have you installed 10.8.0? If so, how specifically is it a train wreck? What has made it unusable by you? As a developer, I've found it has been rock-solid for a x.0 release, far better than 10.7.0. As a high-end user, I've found it to be rock solid as well. While there are small niggling things here and there, nothing I'd describe as "train wreck".

I'm assuming that because you've made this statement more than once, you know something that I don't and that I am going to wake up one day and find the machine unusable. Definitely give us all some insight into your broad statements.

bandalay · Aug 17, 2012

I suspect

the train wreck-like conditions were created by Apple's continued insistence at running a Spotlight index on restart after you install. If you have a large volume it can take ages, all the while various new processes and set-up routines are trying to also start. It becomes a huge loagy mess.

Best to restart and go for coffee. Things will settle down quickly thereafter.

A clean install also zeroes out all sorts of caches and cruft, which would result in a much sprightlier system.

KnightWRX · Aug 17, 2012

Cynicalone said:
Possible release next week since there are no known issues.

All things considered Mountain Lion has been pretty much problem free for a 10.x.0 release.

I wouldn't say problem free, but it's solid. I've had a few issues myself :

KnightWRX said:
I've had 3 issues on my MBA :

- The time doesn't update itself fast enough when coming back from deep sleep. If I'm fast enough to enter my password, I can unlock the computer before the time jumps forward, resulting in the laptop relocking itself instantly as the time jumps ahead a few hours.

- My USB ports are wonky when hot swapping devices. Sometimes the left port will disable itself completely requiring a reboot to fix (I'd suspect hardware, but it started with ML and a reboot fixes it for a few hours/days).

- 3 times the laptop has frozen since ML. If I leave it open and on power, I'll find it a few hours later with screens black out, impossible to wake and the CPU fan going nuts.

Aside from that, ML has been pretty much a non-issue. All my favorite Lion features are there, I disabled Gatekeeper and still don't use neither iCloud nor Launchpad, so it's just dandy.

50548 · Aug 17, 2012

bandalay said:
the train wreck-like conditions were created by Apple's continued insistence at running a Spotlight index on restart after you install. If you have a large volume it can take ages, all the while various new processes and set-up routines are trying to also start. It becomes a huge loagy mess.

Best to restart and go for coffee. Things will settle down quickly thereafter.

A clean install also zeroes out all sorts of caches and cruft, which would result in a much sprightlier system.

And people CONTINUE to spout the same nonsense about the purported advantages of a "clean install" - for every five positive reports, I can show you five OTHER reports in these forums from users who have the same if not worse problems AFTER a clean install.

So let's stop with this placebo recipe, shall we?

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r.harris1 said:
My guess is no, but have you installed 10.8.0? If so, how specifically is it a train wreck? What has made it unusable by you? As a developer, I've found it has been rock-solid for a x.0 release, far better than 10.7.0. As a high-end user, I've found it to be rock solid as well. While there are small niggling things here and there, nothing I'd describe as "train wreck".

I'm assuming that because you've made this statement more than once, you know something that I don't and that I am going to wake up one day and find the machine unusable. Definitely give us all some insight into your broad statements.

No, I haven't installed it - but I have been following the various reports of hard crashes, absurdly short battery life and iOS-like oddities. And it doesn't seem that great to me.

macpeach55 · Aug 17, 2012

bandalay said:
the train wreck-like conditions were created by Apple's continued insistence at running a Spotlight index on restart after you install. If you have a large volume it can take ages, all the while various new processes and set-up routines are trying to also start. It becomes a huge loagy mess.

Best to restart and go for coffee. Things will settle down quickly thereafter.

A clean install also zeroes out all sorts of caches and cruft, which would result in a much sprightlier system.

But if you do a Clean Install, and then import everything from Time Machine, you bring all the cruft with that. A clean up with Onyx, for example, will get rid of the cache & cruft.

naix · Aug 17, 2012

no known issues... :roll eyes:

i wish apple would take that **** out. We all know there are issues look at the forum.

daneoni · Aug 17, 2012

No known issues means no known issues with the build being seeded not with the OS in its entirety.

Risco · Aug 17, 2012

Anyone know if it fixes the change background option needing to be selected twice. Or the safari text input lag?

MRU · Aug 17, 2012

Please let there be a fix for the Wifi drop outs plaguing me since upgrading to 10.8

milo · Aug 17, 2012

BRLawyer said:
No, I haven't installed it - but I have been following the various reports of hard crashes, absurdly short battery life and iOS-like oddities. And it doesn't seem that great to me.

So whining about something you've never even tried. Thanks, that's useful.

There are always problems with any release of any software, OS or otherwise, so anyone could declare any release a "train wreck" if the only basis for that is some people reporting problems online.

What really matters is how widespread problems are and how severe they are. Problems are to be expected for any .0 release, and for a .0 release it's surprisingly solid (heck of a lot better than 10.7.0, and I suspect better than 10.7.4 for most people).

It's just common knowledge, anyone doing mission critical work or otherwise sensitive to issues should skip all .0 releases (and often one or two after that). And those that do need not regale us with whining about problems they've just heard about, that adds nothing to the discussion.

tlevier · Aug 17, 2012

I have a problem:

With some programs, when I make them go full screen (Hulu Plus, a Divx player) the dock stays on the screen, when usually it will fade to black, in the background behind my full screen window. Now I have to go to settings and tell the dock to auto-hide. I don't know if the programs need to be updated or if this is an ML issue.

mw360 · Aug 17, 2012

So, still no fix for the "weighs in at" issue.

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