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SnowLeopard2008
Aug 30, 2012, 09:19 PM
I never thought I'd ever buy a MBA. At the time, I couldn't bear to lose the ports (Ethernet, FireWire) and the SuperDrive. It was also too expensive compared to the 13" MBP. I was really drawn to the 11" MBA because of how small yet powerful it is. Storage space was also a problem/expensive. But with the 2012 MBAs, I think Apple has finally brought the future and made it affordable. School starts soon and I need to buy a new computer. I thought of the MBP vs. MBA and which one better suited me. This time, I went with the MBA because of these reasons:

1. I have not used the SuperDrive in my previous MBP in over half a year.

2. I have never used the FireWire port. I've had a 13" and 15" MBP before this MBA. The last time I recall using a FireWire port was to import video from my Dad's Sony HandyCam cassette-based camcorder using my iBook G4.

3. I only used Ethernet when I was in a temp apartment this summer that didn't have a wireless router set up yet.

So in reality, much of the bulk that I have been lugging around on my back is for nothing. On the plus side, the 13" has a higher resolution screen, which is one of the things I missed going from my 15" to 13" MBP. I love my new MBA! The thing is incredibly light, the SSD is super fast and I'm really happy with this purchase. I just wanted to share my thoughts in case anyone else is thinking about getting the MBP or MBA. :)



hrl
Aug 30, 2012, 10:59 PM
I also went from MBP to MBA. There is no way in hell I would go back to MBP, not even for rMBP :D

Now, I have two MBAs, the 2010 11" is mine and the 2012 13" is the wife's.

ryannel2003
Aug 30, 2012, 11:14 PM
Did the same swap. I had a 13" MBP that I lost in a car wreck earlier this year and I knew that when I started school again I was going to want another one. However I decided to go with the 13" Air and I'm sure glad I did... the weight difference is noticeable and I haven't missed the lost ports at all.

filmbuff
Aug 30, 2012, 11:45 PM
I never had an MBP, but I always thought I needed one because my old laptop had ports for everything (VGA, RJ11, pci-e, etc.) and a DVD drive. The only thing I actually might use that the MBA doesn't have is a DVD drive, but I use that so rarely that there is no reason to have one built into the laptop. I was also sure I would need the Ethernet adapter but at the last minute I decided to try living without it, and I have not missed it at all.

Having two USB 3.0 ports and Thunderbolt makes the Air a much more attractive buy because no-matter what peripheral you need there is a way to attach it to one of those ports.

throAU
Aug 30, 2012, 11:50 PM
My only reason for not going MBA was RAM.

4gb was not enough for me last year, and 8gb is borderline for me already (I do a lot of work with VMs). The only reason I don't have 16gb right now is because it cost $1600 from OWC when i got my 2011 MBP last year.

I'll be upgrading to 16gb + momentus XT 750gb shortly.


But yeah, for most people its a no brainer. The 2012 airs with 8gb are an awesome little machine.

luqtotheman
Aug 31, 2012, 01:47 AM
same here went from MBP to MBA,

most people don't realize they don't use all that crap. When I thought about it I never used my CD drive and firewire or ethernet. Air was a good choice!

sviato
Aug 31, 2012, 08:48 AM
Did anyone have any issues with storage going from a MBP to a MBA? The SSD may be faster but the MBP is loaded with a bigger harddrive

SnowLeopard2008
Sep 6, 2012, 06:35 PM
Did anyone have any issues with storage going from a MBP to a MBA? The SSD may be faster but the MBP is loaded with a bigger harddrive

I had a bit of a crunch. I need to run Linux/Windows VMs for dev work but I shifted to using either native Mac apps (NetBeans, Eclipse) or running them on my Mac Pro. I also use the Windows VM to play League of Legends but I just started two year-long internships at Intel and Venture (cell tower company) so I doubt I will have any free time to play games. Hopefully, Riot games will release a native Mac client or I will build a PC to freshen up my hardware skills/knowledge and use that to play LOL.

In reality, 128GB is more than enough for me. Most people don't have 20GB iTunes or 10GB iPhoto libraries. If mine get any bigger, I will store them on an external.

noobinator
Sep 6, 2012, 07:08 PM
I'm going from 13" MBP to 11" air. I'm a bit nervous on the smaller size and battery life but I'm thinking I'll love it.

stchman
Sep 6, 2012, 07:39 PM
My only reason for not going MBA was RAM.

4gb was not enough for me last year, and 8gb is borderline for me already (I do a lot of work with VMs). The only reason I don't have 16gb right now is because it cost $1600 from OWC when i got my 2011 MBP last year.

I'll be upgrading to 16gb + momentus XT 750gb shortly.


But yeah, for most people its a no brainer. The 2012 airs with 8gb are an awesome little machine.


The RAM is not upgradable in a MBA, you must order the RAM you want.

On a MBP, the RAM is upgradable, 16GB will run you ~$100 off Newegg, I am wondering where you are getting the $1600 figure from for RAM.

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I never thought I'd ever buy a MBA. At the time, I couldn't bear to lose the ports (Ethernet, FireWire) and the SuperDrive. It was also too expensive compared to the 13" MBP. I was really drawn to the 11" MBA because of how small yet powerful it is. Storage space was also a problem/expensive. But with the 2012 MBAs, I think Apple has finally brought the future and made it affordable. School starts soon and I need to buy a new computer. I thought of the MBP vs. MBA and which one better suited me. This time, I went with the MBA because of these reasons:

1. I have not used the SuperDrive in my previous MBP in over half a year.

2. I have never used the FireWire port. I've had a 13" and 15" MBP before this MBA. The last time I recall using a FireWire port was to import video from my Dad's Sony HandyCam cassette-based camcorder using my iBook G4.

3. I only used Ethernet when I was in a temp apartment this summer that didn't have a wireless router set up yet.

So in reality, much of the bulk that I have been lugging around on my back is for nothing. On the plus side, the 13" has a higher resolution screen, which is one of the things I missed going from my 15" to 13" MBP. I love my new MBA! The thing is incredibly light, the SSD is super fast and I'm really happy with this purchase. I just wanted to share my thoughts in case anyone else is thinking about getting the MBP or MBA. :)

1. Get an external DVD drive for the rare times you need one.

2. I have had a Firewire 400 port in my old Toshiba laptop and homebrew desktop. I NEVER used them.

3. You can get either the Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter or Monoprice's USB Ethernet adapter for the rare occasions you need a wire.

throAU
Sep 9, 2012, 09:15 AM
The RAM is not upgradable in a MBA, you must order the RAM you want.

On a MBP, the RAM is upgradable, 16GB will run you ~$100 off Newegg, I am wondering where you are getting the $1600 figure from for RAM.

Yes, this is why i went Pro.

As to price:

When i purchased my 2011, 8gb modules were a LOT more expensive. Hence, i upgraded it to 8gb as soon as i got the machine, rather than 16gb.

RAM prices on 8gb modules CRASHED hard between july and october 2011.

See the history here:

http://www.macperformanceguide.com/Mac-MemoryPrices-MacBookPro.html



Now, yes it is much cheaper. I went 8gb because at the time it was all i could afford. When 8gb is too small, i'll step up to 16 or 32 if that is available by that point.

Fishman Dan
Sep 10, 2012, 01:37 AM
I'm going to join the chorus here ... I think.

Currently have a late 2008 working well, but no AppleCare and only a 300 gb hard drive, I think it's time for options. I travel with it occasionally, and like everyone else I rarely use the Superdrive and never the FW port.

Let's say I have the budget for a mid-spec Retina + 16 gb. The alternative is a top spec 13" MBA, and a Mac Mini with the spare change for home/fun stuff.

I have uses for all of the above, but when it comes to virtualisation stuff it might be wiser to do that on a Mini at home and access it remotely? Certainly more fun ;)

pinchez
Sep 10, 2012, 04:33 AM
I'll add my opinion to.

Every 2 years for the last 6 I've always bought a 13" MacBook with 3 years cover then sold it along with remaining cover to buy the next. This year however I've been really drawn to the 2012 11" MBA, It's just simply amazing! so powerful, small and portable and this matters more to me than retina (already have a retina iPad)

I've also never used a Firewire port, actively avoid using optical drives (even my i7, GTX 670 PC doesn't have a built in optical drive!), don't care about built in SD Card reader as I have a USB adaptor for that and I've never used any of my MacBooks on Ethernet. In short it has all the ports I need :)

I've ordered the 2012 11" MacBook Air i7, 8GB Ram and 256GB SSD model and is due for delivery this Friday, Can't wait :D

asting
Sep 10, 2012, 07:47 AM
I had a bit of a crunch. I need to run Linux/Windows VMs for dev work but I shifted to using either native Mac apps (NetBeans, Eclipse) or running them on my Mac Pro. I also use the Windows VM to play League of Legends but I just started two year-long internships at Intel and Venture (cell tower company) so I doubt I will have any free time to play games. Hopefully, Riot games will release a native Mac client or I will build a PC to freshen up my hardware skills/knowledge and use that to play LOL.

In reality, 128GB is more than enough for me. Most people don't have 20GB iTunes or 10GB iPhoto libraries. If mine get any bigger, I will store them on an external.

http://boompje.net/forum/

You're welcome.

JetSurly
Sep 10, 2012, 04:15 PM
So what would be the better way to go here...

MBP 13 bare bones, buy your own 8 gigs of ram for 40 bucks along with a 256 SSD for 175.

Or

MBA 13 with 8 gigs and 256?

Both MBP with aftermarket parts and MBA with 8gb/256 is pretty much the same price. Plus the aftermarket parts will not be covered under applecare. Am i right to assume that the MBA would be the better way to go for performance, usability (college papers, music, a few movies, minor picture editing).

Even though the i5 chips are different, would i notice a HUGE improvement with the MBP i5 and a SSD over the MBA?

dbdynsty25
Sep 10, 2012, 04:51 PM
MBP 13 bare bones, buy your own 8 gigs of ram for 40 bucks along with a 256 SSD for 175.

Or

MBA 13 with 8 gigs and 256?

Not doing what you're doing. Better to get the entire package from Apple if you're going Applecare. Sure, it's not user replaceable stuff, but if you have Applecare it doesn't much matter. Go with the Air.

balamw
Sep 10, 2012, 04:54 PM
Still holding out for a 13" rMBP.

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jbzcar
Sep 10, 2012, 04:56 PM
Me, too!

I went from a late-2008 15" uMBP with a 2.8ghz C2D, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD + 1TB Optibay to a mid-2011 11.6" MBA i7, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD.

Best choice I ever made, lol.

Got $700 for my MBP after replacing the Superdrive and throwing in a spare 500GB MomentusXT I had lying around. :)

JetSurly
Sep 10, 2012, 05:03 PM
I am trying to keep my budget under 1800. I love the form factor of the rMBP and I assume when it comes in a 13" model it will be upwards of 2k or more, especially after adding options. Such a hard choice, I might as well just pull the trigger on the air. Especially by month end to get the student pricing and 100 gc!

Lunchb0x8
Sep 10, 2012, 05:28 PM
I went from an ASUS F6Ve, to a MBP 13", then to having that with a 2011 MBA 11", and now I have the 2011 11" MBA and a 11" 2012 MBA.

I found the MBP to be nice, but a bit too big for my needs.

SnowLeopard2008
Sep 10, 2012, 05:55 PM
http://boompje.net/forum/

You're welcome.

Thanks, but that's a 3rd party client emulated using Wine. I was talking more about a native client developed by Riot Games.

asting
Sep 10, 2012, 06:41 PM
Thanks, but that's a 3rd party client emulated using Wine. I was talking more about a native client developed by Riot Games.

They have unofficial riot support, and the client works very well. I play full res 40+fps. There's nothing i would really want other than perhaps better compatibility (patches break it sometimes).

LSUtigers03
Sep 10, 2012, 08:28 PM
I'm thinking about doing the same thing. I use my computer for movies, music, web browsing, and light gaming. I think the Air can handle what I do without any issue in a quicker smaller package.

mj1108
Sep 10, 2012, 11:01 PM
I'm going from 13" MBP to 11" air. I'm a bit nervous on the smaller size and battery life but I'm thinking I'll love it.

Let us know what you think. After having and getting used to my 13" MBA, everytime I go into Best Buy or the Apple Store and try the 11" model it just feels too small and makes me glad I stuck with 13".

Could be just me though...

VicTheBerg
Sep 11, 2012, 03:28 AM
I've been switching from a 2009 15" MBP to 2011 MBA 11" to a rMBP and now I'm going back to a 2012 MBA 11". I just fell in love with the tiny thing too much, don't think I'll ever be able to have a bigger laptop.

OnceYouGoMac
Sep 11, 2012, 08:28 AM
I have both a Pro and Air. I use the Air more these days but they both have their uses. The Pro is good for more high end stuff like gaming, watching DVDs, Photoshop and in the future iMovie/Final Cut. It's also good for writing because of the bigger screen and of course the net 'cause of the screen space. The big hard drive is also handy for storing a lot of data. My Air is good for carrying around with me and I use it for web browsing, Youtube, sneaky games of Angry Birds in boring lectures, iTunes and a bit of writing. It's also a backup in case my Pro (my main laptop) breaks down.

torana355
Sep 11, 2012, 08:35 AM
Yep, love my 2011 13" MBA!! Its a great little machine and i don't miss having a superdrive, firewire or Ethernet on it at all.

OnceYouGoMac
Sep 11, 2012, 08:53 AM
Yep, love my 2011 13" MBA!! Its a great little machine and i don't miss having a superdrive, firewire or Ethernet on it at all.

I bought an external SuperDrive for my Air. If I need to use Firewire or Ethernet I'll use my Pro.

noobinator
Sep 11, 2012, 11:04 AM
Let us know what you think. After having and getting used to my 13" MBA, everytime I go into Best Buy or the Apple Store and try the 11" model it just feels too small and makes me glad I stuck with 13".

Could be just me though...

I've had it since Friday now and I can say I don't miss my 13" MBP. The 11" does feel a BIT smaller but nothing that would cause me to want to go back. The form factor of the 11" feels great and this thing is very portable. It's lightning quick compared to my 2.5 year old MBP. I'm a happy customer.

whoknows87
Sep 12, 2012, 02:59 PM
I'm thinking about going from a Pro to 13 Air, I have a mid 2009 Model 2.53ghz 8GB ram ( upgraded myself ), storage is not an issue for me I can always use an external HD, I do nothing hardcore at all just casual browsing/studying
CD/DVD drive a thing of the past, i didn't want to lose screen size that much going to an 11 just too small for me, so with the 13 out I might just go for it, thing is i would want an 8GB RAM just in case, I plan on keeping it for a few years to come and dont want to lost that much money when selling, if i get the base model I will probably lose more $ comes time to sell

also is there any huge difference between the 1.7 vs 1.8? besides $

fleawannabe
Sep 12, 2012, 08:07 PM
I really wanted the MBA 13" but I had to have at least 512GB SSD and that upgrade was just too much. I also like having the Ethernet port though, much faster for DLs. If I would of had the extra cash to get the MBA 13" with the 512 I probably would have, but I am quite happy with my MBP 13".

KohPhiPhi
Sep 13, 2012, 10:19 AM
I went from a 27" iMac to a 13" MBA + 27" Apple Display combo (see my signature). I couldnt be happier.

throAU
Sep 13, 2012, 10:24 AM
So what would be the better way to go here...

MBP 13 bare bones, buy your own 8 gigs of ram for 40 bucks along with a 256 SSD for 175.

Or

MBA 13 with 8 gigs and 256?

Both MBP with aftermarket parts and MBA with 8gb/256 is pretty much the same price. Plus the aftermarket parts will not be covered under applecare. Am i right to assume that the MBA would be the better way to go for performance, usability (college papers, music, a few movies, minor picture editing).

Even though the i5 chips are different, would i notice a HUGE improvement with the MBP i5 and a SSD over the MBA?


Unless you need the form factor, given an SSD and the same RAM, the 13" pro is superior in all respects other than pixel density. Faster CPU, more expansion capability (16gb ram, 2 drive bays that can take standard drives), bigger battery, etc.


If you must have the form factor, or 1440x900 res (which imho is still not enough anyway), then go the MBA. but those things I can live without for the expansion ability.

dixido
Sep 13, 2012, 11:21 AM
Today I went from 2010 15" MBP (with SSD) to a fully specced 13" MBA... This machine beats my old Pro in every single aspect! To my surprise, even the HD4000 beats the 330M in benchmarks, and with pretty good margin. Amazing!

Looking forward to many happy years of usage with my new MBA. ;)

SnowLeopard2008
Sep 18, 2012, 05:01 PM
Unless you need the form factor, given an SSD and the same RAM, the 13" pro is superior in all respects other than pixel density. Faster CPU, more expansion capability (16gb ram, 2 drive bays that can take standard drives), bigger battery, etc.


If you must have the form factor, or 1440x900 res (which imho is still not enough anyway), then go the MBA. but those things I can live without for the expansion ability.

CPU performance isn't significantly better. Expansion ability isn't that much since it's just RAM and HD. HD are mechanical and wear out faster anyway. Not to mention slower. RAM can be expanded to 8GB and beyond but the controller handles 16GB (I think?). 16GB is overkill and you will be bottlenecked by other components before RAM becomes a factor in performance. For most people (maybe not you) 4GB of RAM is plenty. I routinely run Calendar, Mail, Safari (with multiple fullscreen windows with 10+ tabs EACH) and iTunes with zero slowdown due to RAM limitations or CPU performance. If I really need to, I can also run FCPX along with all of the above and it maybe gets a hiccup occasionally. That's more than enough for the average user (again, maybe not you). The MBP? The bottleneck there is the HD. Sure you can upgrade but most people don't upgrade their laptops (this is a sad but true fact), know how to upgrade components, don't care about it, don't want to care about it or some combination of the aforementioned.


A bigger battery doesn't directly translate to better battery life. MBP has a higher TDP CPU among other components that the MBA doesn't have. Battery performance will be the same between 13" MBA and 13" MBP. The 11" MBA will offer shorter battery life than the 13" MBP obviously.

The part in bold is simply your opinion (and mine for awhile) because some people don't need FireWire, Ethernet and DVD drives. For those people, having it doesn't simply mean it's a superior product. Superior is a highly subjective term. But for people who care about those ports and DVD drives (aka you) , then the MBP is superior no doubt.

I suppose you could argue that the MBP can have up to 2 HDs (or SSDs) but the number of people who need, want or use this is very few and arguing this as the reason why the MBP is superior is pretty weak since superiority is a generalized and broad argument.

tiwizard
Sep 18, 2012, 05:10 PM
Unless you need the form factor, given an SSD and the same RAM, the 13" pro is superior in all respects other than pixel density. Faster CPU, more expansion capability (16gb ram, 2 drive bays that can take standard drives), bigger battery, etc.

If you must have the form factor, or 1440x900 res (which imho is still not enough anyway), then go the MBA. but those things I can live without for the expansion ability.

CPU performance isn't significantly better. Expansion ability isn't that much since it's just RAM and HD. HD are mechanical and wear out faster anyway. Not to mention slower. RAM can be expanded to 8GB and beyond but the controller handles 16GB (I think?). 16GB is overkill and you will be bottlenecked by other components before RAM becomes a factor in performance. For most people (maybe not you) 4GB of RAM is plenty. I routinely run Calendar, Mail, Safari (with multiple fullscreen windows with 10+ tabs EACH) and iTunes with zero slowdown due to RAM limitations or CPU performance. If I really need to, I can also run FCPX along with all of the above and it maybe gets a hiccup occasionally. That's more than enough for the average user (again, maybe not you). The MBP? The bottleneck there is the HD. Sure you can upgrade but most people don't upgrade their laptops (this is a sad but true fact), know how to upgrade components, don't care about it, don't want to care about it or some combination of the aforementioned.


A bigger battery doesn't directly translate to better battery life. MBP has a higher TDP CPU among other components that the MBA doesn't have. Battery performance will be the same between 13" MBA and 13" MBP. The 11" MBA will offer shorter battery life than the 13" MBP obviously.

The part in bold is simply your opinion (and mine for awhile) because some people don't need FireWire, Ethernet and DVD drives. For those people, having it doesn't simply mean it's a superior product. Superior is a highly subjective term. But for people who care about those ports and DVD drives (aka you) , then the MBP is superior no doubt.

Yeah, the MBP performance is not that much higher than the Air, surprisingly. I wrote a blog post (macbooktips.info/macbook-pro-13-inch-vs-macbook-air-13-inch/) about the differences-- it has some benchmark numbers in it, as well as differences between the two machines in the real world as well.

Really, I have a hard time recommending the 13 inch Pro now that the Air has caught up so much, except for those few people needing the two hard drive bays or CD drive...

kattskrall
Sep 19, 2012, 02:52 AM
I went from PC to mba. Mainly to use logic. Ironically mountain lion and usb 3.0 makes my mba incompatible with my mbox 2 mini second generation sound card (i can rant on this a looong time) but this is another story.
I'm happy with it so far. It's light and fast.

I went for the i7 and 8gb ram, i figured another 5% of the price would make my laptop last longer.
The salesperson i spoke to at apple guaranteed me 100% that i could upgrade the ram at a later point, same as a guy at media markt. Luckily i KNOW that you can't since the components are soldered onto the MB and went with the factory upgraded version. Embarrassing that not the apple salesperson knew this :confused:

Choosing between mba and the 'old' mbp is a no brainer. All my friends have the 13 mbp and it's considerably heavier and the screen is just horrid in comparison, sure it may display colors back more accurately but the resolution is 1280 x 800, same as my old hp pc from 2007.
If you compare benchmarks the mba is faster than the mbp due to the ssd hard drive.

Key word must be portability. I haul my computer with me every day to university, it weighs more or less than a book. so yeah. happy with it.

only thing is the logic thingy. if anyone have a soloution pm me! :D

edit: the reason i posted in the first place was i was going to give a tip about sdXC cards, you can get a whole lot more storage space for a small buck. A 64gb sdxc card goes for 40euro or $50~ for you americans. Sadly the sd card sticks out from the side compared to my pc (they must have thougt of this so people would buy the extra hdd) so you can't have it in there the whole time if you move the computer and so on. There's even 128gb sdxc cards but for x2.5 the price of a 64gb one. And yes the mba is compatible with them i checked

Mike in Kansas
Sep 19, 2012, 07:44 AM
The salesperson i spoke to at apple guaranteed me 100% that i could upgrade the ram at a later point, same as a guy at media markt.

The guy from Apple was at an official Apple store? And that person tried to convince you that you could upgrade the RAM?? That is unbelievable that an Apple employee would not know this basic fact about the MBA. :mad:

asting
Sep 19, 2012, 07:57 AM
The guy from Apple was at an official Apple store? And that person tried to convince you that you could upgrade the RAM?? That is unbelievable that an Apple employee would not know this basic fact about the MBA. :mad:
Having been to the store a few times this sounds quite believable. They're salespeople, not certified technicians (the ones you talk to anyway).

m00min
Sep 19, 2012, 08:40 AM
Having been to the store a few times this sounds quite believable. They're salespeople, not certified technicians (the ones you talk to anyway).

Whether you go into an Apple store or PC World, never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to. Just the other week I had a "computer expert" in PC World tell me that MBAs are fully upgradable. Needless to say I schooled him :)

Vandefilm
Sep 19, 2012, 09:26 AM
I went from a PC to the MBA and I love it. When I see people with a MBP I think:' hé, thats a big laptop' :D. I have an external display and an external HD on my desk, thats all I need. If I wanna sit downstairs? I just unplug my MBA and take it downstairs. Do I want to watch a movie? I plugin the display. I can't see any reason for buying a MBP. Like somebody else said, this MBA is faster then the 2011 MBP. If you need a MBP, what were you doing last year??

Frankied22
Sep 19, 2012, 11:04 AM
I just ordered the 13" MBA i7/8GB/256SSD to replace my 2011 13" MBP. I am really looking forward to switching.

stockscalper
Sep 19, 2012, 01:43 PM
I went from a MBP to a MBA as well. Now when I pick up the MBP I can't believe how heavy and bulky it feels. Not to mention how slow it is to boot up and load programs. Owning and using a MBA will spoil you.

kattskrall
Sep 19, 2012, 04:47 PM
The guy from Apple was at an official Apple store? And that person tried to convince you that you could upgrade the RAM?? That is unbelievable that an Apple employee would not know this basic fact about the MBA. :mad:

Yup. it was a she over the phone on their sales department based in barcelona. Quite embarassing.

I've had this discussion to several salespersons in different stores. When i have asked for the maxed out mba (before i knew you could only order them custom built from apple) they tell me 'you can always upgrade the ram AND the hdd later on if you like'. My generic response is yeah if you're good at soldering... Then they go like this :confused: an awkward silence emerges and i walk away...

Scepticalscribe
Sep 20, 2012, 08:59 AM
I'm also one of those who went from a MBP (which I loved), and bought in 2008, to a 13" MBA which I bought in 2010 (and sold the MBP, which still had Applecare, a few months later).

I have Applecare on my MBA, and also bought an external Superdrive for it, which is handy for ripping CDs (yes, I still buy CDs) and watching DVDs occasionally (such as boxed sets of Downton Abbey, old Ealing Brothers movies, and so on).

I travel a lot, and thus, carrying weight is an issue. So, I love the wonderful portability, sheer speed of the SSD, and excellent screen of the MBA. While I can see the point of the MBP (especially the new retina models), for now, I'm more than happy with the MBA, which is now my main, and only, personal computer.

metadata
Sep 22, 2012, 06:17 AM
Guys, happy 2010 11" MBA user but have use for a bigger screen so am thinking the 2012 13". Just wondering whether when the current line was released and whether there is any rumor that it may be refreshed pre christmas?

Not one to hang out for the latest but if its just around the corner then perhaps

thanks

tzhu07
Sep 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
Right now I'm comtemplating purchasing a laptop, and I'm leaning more towards the Air for web development purposes. I don't think the additional power of the Pro would give me a significant amount of benefit to deal with the bulkier and heavier body.

Cicatrix
Sep 22, 2012, 09:55 PM
I never thought I'd ever buy a MBA. At the time, I couldn't bear to lose the ports (Ethernet, FireWire) and the SuperDrive. It was also too expensive compared to the 13" MBP. I was really drawn to the 11" MBA because of how small yet powerful it is. Storage space was also a problem/expensive. But with the 2012 MBAs, I think Apple has finally brought the future and made it affordable. School starts soon and I need to buy a new computer. I thought of the MBP vs. MBA and which one better suited me. This time, I went with the MBA because of these reasons:

1. I have not used the SuperDrive in my previous MBP in over half a year.

2. I have never used the FireWire port. I've had a 13" and 15" MBP before this MBA. The last time I recall using a FireWire port was to import video from my Dad's Sony HandyCam cassette-based camcorder using my iBook G4.

3. I only used Ethernet when I was in a temp apartment this summer that didn't have a wireless router set up yet.

So in reality, much of the bulk that I have been lugging around on my back is for nothing. On the plus side, the 13" has a higher resolution screen, which is one of the things I missed going from my 15" to 13" MBP. I love my new MBA! The thing is incredibly light, the SSD is super fast and I'm really happy with this purchase. I just wanted to share my thoughts in case anyone else is thinking about getting the MBP or MBA. :)


1: Samsung USB 218bb

2: usb3

3:_____

4: brand new MBA!

SnowLeopard2008
Sep 22, 2012, 11:59 PM
Guys, happy 2010 11" MBA user but have use for a bigger screen so am thinking the 2012 13". Just wondering whether when the current line was released and whether there is any rumor that it may be refreshed pre christmas?

Not one to hang out for the latest but if its just around the corner then perhaps

thanks

No. It was just refreshed in June/July. It's not around the corner for at least a good half year+.

Right now I'm comtemplating purchasing a laptop, and I'm leaning more towards the Air for web development purposes. I don't think the additional power of the Pro would give me a significant amount of benefit to deal with the bulkier and heavier body.

I use mine for web dev along with other development purposes. No problems.

1: Samsung USB 218bb

2: usb3

3:_____

4: brand new MBA!

I'm not sure I understand your post?

aimango
Sep 23, 2012, 12:34 AM
I had a MBP '10 when I was interning this past winter. Got an MBA last month (i5/8/256), don't regret a thing. The only time I used the hard drive on that MBP was to watch episodes of Community. :cool: Also, my MBA heats up a bit when using flash on Chrome, but that's about it. Screen size - I don't mind.

I was actually close to getting a MBP again because I remember the weight not being -that- bad. Then I considered the other notebooks I would be carrying around during school. :rolleyes:

Wicked1
Dec 3, 2012, 12:04 PM
Did the same swap. I had a 13" MBP that I lost in a car wreck earlier this year and I knew that when I started school again I was going to want another one. However I decided to go with the 13" Air and I'm sure glad I did... the weight difference is noticeable and I haven't missed the lost ports at all.

Went from the MBP 13" to MBA 13" and the weight diff is great and not missing superdrive either, but the lack of storage options and the fact that I can not upgrade the ram is a bummer, but I have to say overall I am very happy as well.

Just bought a black smoke speck cover for it just to protect it, and the fact that I was able to buy it for $1,025.00 new was pretty good as well.

Acorn
Dec 3, 2012, 02:04 PM
I made the same transition. As soon as apple started offering the Airs with 8 gb of ram I decided to make the jump. Id prefer a 16gb option but 8 is ok. I went from a 2.66 ghz 13 inch 2010 macbook pro to the 1.8 ghz macbook air. The macbook air smokes my core2duo machine. Ive been considering a ssd to speed up the machine but since its 2010 i think its only SATA 2. So I wont get the full advantage of the newer ssds.

rekhyt
Dec 3, 2012, 02:37 PM
I never thought I'd ever buy a MBA. At the time, I couldn't bear to lose the ports (Ethernet, FireWire) and the SuperDrive. It was also too expensive compared to the 13" MBP. I was really drawn to the 11" MBA because of how small yet powerful it is. Storage space was also a problem/expensive. But with the 2012 MBAs, I think Apple has finally brought the future and made it affordable. School starts soon and I need to buy a new computer. I thought of the MBP vs. MBA and which one better suited me. This time, I went with the MBA because of these reasons:

1. I have not used the SuperDrive in my previous MBP in over half a year.

2. I have never used the FireWire port. I've had a 13" and 15" MBP before this MBA. The last time I recall using a FireWire port was to import video from my Dad's Sony HandyCam cassette-based camcorder using my iBook G4.

3. I only used Ethernet when I was in a temp apartment this summer that didn't have a wireless router set up yet.

So in reality, much of the bulk that I have been lugging around on my back is for nothing. On the plus side, the 13" has a higher resolution screen, which is one of the things I missed going from my 15" to 13" MBP. I love my new MBA! The thing is incredibly light, the SSD is super fast and I'm really happy with this purchase. I just wanted to share my thoughts in case anyone else is thinking about getting the MBP or MBA. :)

I'm afraid I haven't read the rest of the posts in this thread but I would like to endorse this decision as well, as I had moved from a 15" unibody MBP ('08) to a 11" MBA ('11).

Storage space is an issue at the moment, with only 18GB out of 128GB (I remember having the same amount, 120GB, in my first white MacBook. Amazing to see Macs progress.).

I'm probably going to get the 2013 MacBook Air ultimate, with highest CPU config, 8GB RAM (16GB unlikely to be offered at this point) and 512GB SSD. Hope the prices of the flash memory keeps decreasing. Would be amazing to own such a device with such capability.

I'm hoping Haswell will allow the CPU and graphics to achieve a great leap in performance, as well as battery life. Fingers crossed.

bonbmdxman
Dec 3, 2012, 03:04 PM
I just moved from a 2009 MBP 15" to a 2012 MBA 13" / 1.8 / 8gb / 128gb. The MBA is definitely faster and nice to work on - not to mention it's a pleasure to travel with. With the majority of my computer needs fulfilled by my iPad (80-90% of the time) the MBA is a great fit to accommodate the few occurrences when I need the full power and functionality of a computer.

The only uncertainty I have is the 128gb ssd. I'm trying to use my space sparingly so I don't fill it up too quickly, because I couldn't justify $300 extra for the 256gb ssd.

m00min
Dec 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
The only uncertainty I have is the 128gb ssd. I'm trying to use my space sparingly so I don't fill it up too quickly, because I couldn't justify $300 extra for the 256gb ssd.

My sympathies, I've been there. I bought an MBP 2010 with the 128GB SSD, I had to upgrade it the following year as it was just to small for me. Went with the 256GB for my Air this time :)

medi.freak
Dec 3, 2012, 04:27 PM
After all it is the compromise you'll have to do between portability (Air) and extreme power (Pro)

If the power in an Air is enough for you and you want portability -> Go Air
(that's what I did, after selling my MBP)


If portability is not that important to you but you want/need lots of power -> Go Pro


Peoples problem is that they don't know how much power they need... (and, more likely, don't need)

Wicked1
Dec 5, 2012, 06:59 AM
Did anyone have any issues with storage going from a MBP to a MBA? The SSD may be faster but the MBP is loaded with a bigger harddrive

I well have an issue but my 13" MBP will not handle my library either, so switched all music that is mine, on the MBA, moved wife and kids music to their own MBP's, and I use an external drive for everything else, this way when it is not in use, I put this in the firesafe.

I figure in case something happens to the air, I have all data backed on an external drive, then I clone that drive as well. Works pretty good too, just wish the ram was upgradable, but when I am done with this in 3 years, we will see what ram requirements are by then, and I will go with the max, bu this time around I got my 13" MBA 4gb/128ssd for $1,025 so I am not complaining.