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idencustom
Sep 4, 2012, 11:16 PM
I'm on my 14th hour of using the ipad 3. I left ATL this monring at 8:30 and am currently on a flight going back to ATL from Laguardia (6 hour delay... frigging LGA). I've watched almost two movies, used twitter, facebook, instagram and maps..... read several tech blogs... and even downloaded some albums using iTunes match. I'm currently at 26% battery remaining. I left my house without a charger for either my phone or ipad... and this is all I carried. Long story short is...... This is something my MBA can not provide for me (I have the 13 and wife has the 11). I mean.... I love the MBA.... but using an Ipad with the combination of the Logitech UltraThin Keyboard has helped me be productinve in so many different ways today. I kept Cellular Data on all day (except when on plane when I switched to GOGOAIR... which is how I'm typing this post). Longer story short...... Why can't the same battery go inside of the MBA?? Am I missing something?

I forgot to add, I emailed a LOT as well as frequently surfed while in LGA.



toondw
Sep 5, 2012, 02:13 AM
The processing power needed for the air is different than a iPad, they are completely different beasts!

I did the opposite, got rid of a iPad for a air!

stchman
Sep 5, 2012, 02:21 AM
I'm on my 14th hour of using the ipad 3. I left ATL this monring at 8:30 and am currently on a flight going back to ATL from Laguardia (6 hour delay... frigging LGA). I've watched almost two movies, used twitter, facebook, instagram and maps..... read several tech blogs... and even downloaded some albums using iTunes match. I'm currently at 26% battery remaining. I left my house without a charger for either my phone or ipad... and this is all I carried. Long story short is...... This is something my MBA can not provide for me (I have the 13 and wife has the 11). I mean.... I love the MBA.... but using an Ipad with the combination of the Logitech UltraThin Keyboard has helped me be productinve in so many different ways today. I kept Cellular Data on all day (except when on plane when I switched to GOGOAIR... which is how I'm typing this post). Longer story short...... Why can't the same battery go inside of the MBA?? Am I missing something?

I forgot to add, I emailed a LOT as well as frequently surfed while in LGA.

The MBA has a FAR more powerful processor than the iPad.

filmbuff
Sep 5, 2012, 08:51 AM
Sounds like you should get rid of the Air and just get a light keyboard case for the iPad ;) I've gone two weeks at a time using just my iPad but after a day or two I start to miss the versatility of having an actual laptop. It would be nice if the Airs could get similar battery life to an iPad but the technology just isn't there yet. At the slow rate we're progressing in battery technology it is going to be at least a decade before that is possible, IMO.

sillyrabbitt
Sep 5, 2012, 08:54 AM
bottomline:

iPad is for consumption
MBA is for PRODUCTION

its really that simple to me.

BigMcGuire
Sep 5, 2012, 09:19 AM
The iPad is basically a big iPhone. A full fledged computer is an entirely different thing. You can do 5x the stuff with a Macbook vs an iPad. I sold my iPad 3 because my Macbook Air was far more of a utility to me. You can't do a lot of stuff on an iPad that you can do with the Air - at least not very comfortably. I type very fast and have since I was a kid - going to a touch screen keyboard was murder for me.

Those of us who are more than consumers - like the posters here said - a Macbook is a must. Writing tons of emails, VPN'ing into other networks so we can RDP to do IT work, websites that require flash, working with code and a compiler, ... etc.

Comparing the battery life of the iPad to the Macbook Air isn't entirely fair. I'll try to make an analogy without offending anyone but an iPad 3 is like a mid ranged motorcycle while the Macbook Air is like a BMW M3. The iPad 3 is fast, good at what it does, but it can't do a lot of the things the Macbook Air can.

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Edit: You have a valid point tho... A lot of people could get by with an iPad 3 with a keyboard - far more people than most realize. I never understood why mouse/keyboard inputs weren't encouraged with the iPad 3 - always figured it would leech sales from Apple's Macbook lineup if they did that. But MOST people I know could easily get by with an iPad, a monitor, a mouse, and a keyboard. They'd use a quarter of the power too.

TheRealDamager
Sep 5, 2012, 09:22 AM
bottomline:

iPad is for consumption
MBA is for PRODUCTION

its really that simple to me.

I used to think that too, but its getting less simple all the time.

aerok
Sep 5, 2012, 09:35 AM
Here is a regular day where I work on my Macbook.

- Import 200-1800 pictures to Macbook taken from 7D
- Mass correct white balance
- Post production work on photos
- Build time lapse if desired
- Upload all pics to social networks or client

Can't do all that on an iPad.

entatlrg
Sep 5, 2012, 09:47 AM
Yep, you've made your point, iPad has great battery life.

I need battery life, connectivity, performance and use software not available on the iPad so I travel with a 3rd gen 3G iPad and a MacBook Air.

Best of both worlds.

I've never want to leave on a trip without my Air and my iPad, having both gives me, what about 14-18 hours total battery life and more performance and entertainment than I need in less weight than a 13" MBP!

glen e
Sep 5, 2012, 09:56 AM
When I'm on the road for a couple weeks at a time both my iPad and my MBA go with me. But for quick trips in and out doing a presentation, out one day two days back the iPad does it all. We have had these discussions before. Neither one is better than the other, they are totally just different, for different applications.

mmomega
Sep 5, 2012, 10:17 AM
Just like others have mentioned, if you think of it, your MBA uses its battery to operate the display which is larger than the iPad, it operates the fans that are constantly spinning to cool the more powerful processor.

Which if the MBA did not have to have a fan, I am sure it would last much longer but this is why there are different products.

If you can get by on consuming data alone without much need to share, store or work with it then an iPad is probably the device for you. It is great at its job.

If you need more then that is where the MacBook lineup comes in.

A lot of folks have both devices to suit their different needs, which is great if you have the resources to do that.

Mrbobb
Sep 5, 2012, 10:44 AM
I think sumbody just found out the stuff he does DOES NOT require a laptop.

aerok
Sep 5, 2012, 10:52 AM
I've watched almost two movies, used twitter, facebook, instagram and maps..... read several tech blogs... and even downloaded some albums using iTunes match.
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but using an Ipad with the combination of the Logitech UltraThin Keyboard has helped me be productinve in so many different ways today.


How were you productive when you didn't produce any material

idencustom
Sep 5, 2012, 11:29 AM
How were you productive when you didn't produce any material

Productivity for me consists of being able to respond to emails quickly, review excel spreadsheets and be able to access dropbox. Yesterday, along with the stuff I mentioned above... I was able to keep track of some financial stuff. Did i create powerpoint slides or work with thousands of photos... no.

I do understand how the fan would use the battery... make sense. Didn't think of that.

Mrbobb
Sep 5, 2012, 12:04 PM
I do understand how the fan would use the battery... make sense. Didn't think of that.

But if you not doing much to tax the system, why does the fan has to come on at all?

In a perfect world, sure, your laptop has a more powerful engine, but it should be able to throttle itself down for low-power tasks and conserve energy, they all do that in some fashion, but not enough to mimic a tablet. I feel they could had done a better job but having that kind of range would probably get the one-device-does all more expensive to produce.

But the good news is, hey, u found out a tablet is your portable tool of choice.

flyguy206
Sep 5, 2012, 12:39 PM
bottomline:

iPad is for consumption
MBA is for PRODUCTION

its really that simple to me.

Wrong the iPad is more then capable of doing work. When people get out the mindset that it suppose to replace a laptop they will see how capable it is.

glen e
Sep 5, 2012, 12:44 PM
Wrong the iPad is more then capable of doing work. When people get out the mindset that it suppose to replace a laptop they will see how capable it is.

actaully wrong....have owned both for 3 years and the above comment of ipad for consuming, MBA creating is correct.

TheRealDamager
Sep 5, 2012, 12:47 PM
You can "produce material" on an IPad - it's not as easy as on an Air, for sure, but things like email and reviewing / commenting on documents.

aerok
Sep 5, 2012, 02:01 PM
Wrong the iPad is more then capable of doing work. When people get out the mindset that it suppose to replace a laptop they will see how capable it is.

Like I previously mentioned, there is no way I can do the things I do on my Macbook.

Ok fine there is a way but it'll take MUCH longer with less than ideal results.

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Productivity for me consists of being able to respond to emails quickly, review excel spreadsheets and be able to access dropbox. Yesterday, along with the stuff I mentioned above... I was able to keep track of some financial stuff. Did i create powerpoint slides or work with thousands of photos... no.

I do understand how the fan would use the battery... make sense. Didn't think of that.

Ah well you hadn't mentioned email, Excel or dropbox on your OP.

iAppl3Fan
Sep 5, 2012, 02:02 PM
If you're that productive on an iPad, you should just get rid of your MBA.

For me, I'll get rid of the iPad before I get rid of the MBA.

ugahairydawgs
Sep 5, 2012, 02:12 PM
Wrong the iPad is more then capable of doing work. When people get out the mindset that it suppose to replace a laptop they will see how capable it is.

It can do some work. Typing out docs and things like that is one thing. But if media production is in the equation you are hamstringing yourself using an iPad. The lack of access to the file system will always be it's biggest flaw.

plucky duck
Sep 5, 2012, 02:29 PM
If I had to get rid of one or the other, it would be the iPad before the Air. Sure the Air lacks endurance when compared to the iPad for battery, but the Air is so much more versatile in what it can do. The Air's form factor is close enough to the iPad (11" vs 9.7") and lightweight enough that I don't mind the reduced battery life, and I have frequent and easy access to a power plug so that's a moot point for me personally.

An iPad and the Air may be able to achieve the same thing in the end, but the approach may be quite different and don't know if I may necessarily want to approach a certain task a certain way on the iPad. For example, if I want to edit and/or create a short clip, there's no way I would consider an iPad. For consumption, the iPad is a fantastic device though.

I have both the 11" Air and the iPad, and they compliment each other nicely. No way in my mind do I believe the iPad can overtake my Air completely without having to make major effort conscious adjustments. In the end it's just not worth it. Luckily I don't have to choose.

I love first world problems :p

Flux.Capacitor
Sep 5, 2012, 02:31 PM
Why choose one or the other? They both serve a purpose. I have a MBP and an iPad, for developing, editing photos in Photoshop, or any Adobe product, professional docs, I NEED my MBP. For web surfing, updating my Fantasy Football lineup, simple photo editing, emailing, facebook etc. I find the iPad does it quicker and easier. I love both products and wouldn't get rid of either.

TheRealDamager
Sep 5, 2012, 02:44 PM
Put me in the "both" category as well.

Mrbobb
Sep 5, 2012, 02:53 PM
What you guys think about these "convertibles" the competitions are coming out with? It's a tablet with a foldable/detachable keyboard!

I predict they will cease production after 1 year. Is not like they haven't tried that before. The competition is so sad, they always try to up-1-feature than an Apple product, whether that feature is useful, desirable, ez to use what not. Apple's is cool because they know when to say no.

TheRealDamager
Sep 5, 2012, 03:05 PM
Microsoft and their Partners understand the Technical Buyer - their products will appeal to the person who knows the technology inside and out and wants something that meets all of their (relatively complicated) needs.

Apple understands that the Technical Buyer is really only 5-10% of the total market, and delivers products that are "limited" in comparison, but dead simple easy for the other 90-95% of the marketplace.

As a technician, I appreciate the level of capability delivered by the new products from Microsoft and their partners. I think they will fail the "can my Mother use it" test miserably...

sexiewasd
Sep 5, 2012, 06:31 PM
Before I bought my mac, my mother needed a laptop. I helped her pick out a nice AMD powered Asus with a dedicated GFX processor. She is endlessly confused by vista, and afraid to use it because she might break it with viruses and loose her photos. I feel very guilty enjoying my 11" Air, honestly an iPad would be much better for her needs (Facebook, Gmail, Youtube, Netflix), but until iOS can run a LAMP server and Xcode, I'm stuck with a laptop, so jealous of the iPad's battery life, the 11" Air's is miserable and I would gladly have it twice as thick, (which would still be a quarter as thick as my mom's Asus), If it were used to increase the battery life. An air with 10 hours of battery life would be an incredible tool.

sillyrabbitt
Sep 5, 2012, 06:47 PM
Wrong the iPad is more then capable of doing work. When people get out the mindset that it suppose to replace a laptop they will see how capable it is.

For me I can make 100x the money using my mba and be 100x as productive on the mba then ipad. i gave it to my kids and never use it. To each his own so for you i get it! But for me MBA all the way.

TheRealDamager
Sep 5, 2012, 08:08 PM
Before I bought my mac, my mother needed a laptop. I helped her pick out a nice AMD powered Asus with a dedicated GFX processor. She is endlessly confused by vista, and afraid to use it because she might break it with viruses and loose her photos. I feel very guilty enjoying my 11" Air, honestly an iPad would be much better for her needs (Facebook, Gmail, Youtube, Netflix), but until iOS can run a LAMP server and Xcode, I'm stuck with a laptop, so jealous of the iPad's battery life, the 11" Air's is miserable and I would gladly have it twice as thick, (which would still be a quarter as thick as my mom's Asus), If it were used to increase the battery life. An air with 10 hours of battery life would be an incredible tool.

We just moved my Mother in Law to an IPad from a laptop. The learning curve was incredibly easy, and it's the perfect solution for her. I know it's not for everybody, I get that, but for a LOT of people (by far the majority), it will do everything the would do with a computer.

Geekbabe
Sep 5, 2012, 08:12 PM
Put me in the "both" category as well.

Me too! Lying on the sofa with iPad now, my MBA is on the coffee table should I decide to work on pics for my blog. I have the best of both worlds.