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MacBytes
Aug 12, 2005, 11:00 AM
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Category: Mac OS X
Link: Mac Hacks Allow OS X on PCs (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20050812110022)

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CubaTBird
Aug 12, 2005, 11:01 AM
it has been done... let the viral flood gates open... or maybe not? hrm..

nagromme
Aug 12, 2005, 11:24 AM
We may never know, but it wouldn't surprise me if there's some intentional aspect to the low security this time. Apple may have decided to risk ONE version of OS X with low piracy protection, knowing that when Leopard comes around they can do more if they choose.

macdon401
Aug 12, 2005, 12:02 PM
Just read this in todays Wired news! http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,68501,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
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dornoforpyros
Aug 12, 2005, 12:30 PM
Just read this in todays Wired news! http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,68501,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1
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uhh so your replying to a story with the URL of the same story? :rolleyes:

nagromme
Aug 12, 2005, 01:44 PM
Mac sites are picking up on the story too:

http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20050812110022

Sorry :o


"Imagine if your next Mac cost you only $300, and ran faster than any G4 or G5 you've ever used."

That was going to happen in ANY conceivable future. Key word: future. Including future LEGAL Macs. Are they implying that present $300 PCs are faster than any G5 Mac?


"PCs, which are often cheaper than Macs."

And often, as we know, more expensive--especially when you add all the stuff that the cheap PC lacks, which people like to gloss over in "proving" that PCs are cheaper. (DVI? VRAM? Firewire? Internal wireless options? Software bundle? Quiet and compact form factor? Get a Mac Mini.)

SPUY767
Aug 12, 2005, 01:58 PM
it has been done... let the virii flood gates open... or maybe not? hrm..

Virii is not a word.

nagromme
Aug 12, 2005, 02:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus
"The word virus never had a plural form in Latin."

You learn something new every day!

"Viri" and "virii" are somewhat commonly used, and I've thought at least one of them was technically acceptable--but they apparently never made it to the dictionary. And their use is recent, not older as I'd have guessed. (Well, I'd have guessed "viri" at least... "virii" would make more sense for "virius.")

wiz7dome
Aug 12, 2005, 02:38 PM
Where is Apple Legal??

tech4all
Aug 12, 2005, 02:39 PM
it has been done... let the virii flood gates open... or maybe not? hrm..

Hehe, I like the play on words there. "let the virii (or is viruses?) flood gates" Like viruses are flooding Bill Gates :D

Fender2112
Aug 12, 2005, 04:53 PM
You have to assume Apple antisipated this and that they are watching the situation very closely. I would even say that Apple was counting on it. Actually it's a quite ingenious way to test a product. Tell folks they can't break it and see how fast they can. :D

Nermal
Aug 12, 2005, 06:22 PM
It seems like getting around the TPM wasn't that hard, according to a hacker nicknamed "parch," who said, "Apple could have made the lock heavier."

And they probably will, for the release version of OS X/Intel. This developer release probably doesn't have the "final version" of their copy protection.

JW8725
Aug 12, 2005, 07:34 PM
Wait hold on a sec. Weren't Macs menta be faster than PCs? Didnt Apple push the mac to be a quicker (relatively) machine? I recall looking at some Benchmarks of apps loaded up or something. Now people are reporting their PCs to be very quick at booting up and loading apps.

xtremdav45
Aug 12, 2005, 10:34 PM
I think this article by John C. Dvorak predicts the future of the Mac OS X. Some of its starting to fall in place.

link (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1845259,00.asp)

Santaduck
Aug 13, 2005, 05:05 PM
I think Michael Dell was hinting at something... his machines could easily be specified within the trusted platform spec of the TPM if he succeeded in cutting a deal with Apple... a deal that I suspect would require the prohibiting of cut-rate prices... sort of an expansion of the hp ipod rebranding deal, but more. Apple would stand to profit with such a powerful ally with such an enviable marketing reach.

Back on the osx x86 vpmware note, an acquaintance just iChatted me with iSight proof of OS X running on his AMD machine, I posted his pic on my blog...

nagromme
Aug 13, 2005, 08:37 PM
Wait hold on a sec. Weren't Macs menta be faster than PCs? Didnt Apple push the mac to be a quicker (relatively) machine? I recall looking at some Benchmarks of apps loaded up or something. Now people are reporting their PCs to be very quick at booting up and loading apps.

Those reports are nice to hear, but any Apple benchmarks you're thinking of were Macs vs. Windows PCs, not PPC Macs vs. Intel Macs.

And compare any two computers of similar specs and each will be faster at something. You can always find a task--or twenty--that will make either machine come out on top on a graph. So benchmarks will always be of limited use. The most useful tests are speed tests done with real-world apps. If you have to edit 100 MB Photoshop files with lots of rotation of layers, then you care more about how fast Photoshop rotates big files... not how fast Photoshop launches, or how fast MS Word scrolls pages. Specific situations are more important--and different for each person.

(Besides, Macs run great with lots of apps open, waiting dormant until needed. There's little need to Quit commonly-used apps, and no need at all to shut down or restart--not even on laptops. Macs sleep reliably. So boot time is of academic interest but not much else.)

Lacero
Aug 17, 2005, 06:37 PM
Where is Apple Legal??Appears Apple served notice to MacBidouille regarding posting instructions on how to install OSX on PCs.

Link (http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2005-08-17/#11401)

jhu
Aug 17, 2005, 09:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus
"The word virus never had a plural form in Latin."

You learn something new every day!

"Viri" and "virii" are somewhat commonly used, and I've thought at least one of them was technically acceptable--but they apparently never made it to the dictionary. And their use is recent, not older as I'd have guessed. (Well, I'd have guessed "viri" at least... "virii" would make more sense for "virius.")

on the other hand, a language is a pliable tool. if enough people use a given word or phrase long enough, the word or phrase becomes mainstream. or it can fall out of favor. consider the word "niggardly" or what it means to "beg the question."