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firststrike101
Aug 15, 2005, 10:05 PM
I heard that may be discontinuing the 20" monitor to release a 42" model. As digital home computer (theater) systems are becoming more popular. Maybe this is Apple's way of getting into the TV market, "The year of HD".
ITASOR
Aug 15, 2005, 10:09 PM
Get rid of the only somewhat affordable display? I don't think so. What about the people that don't WANT a HUGE display? They'll only be giving DELL a lot of business by doing that!
jaysmith
Aug 15, 2005, 10:13 PM
if they ever got rd of the 20" (which is really doubtful) then they'd at least have to introduce a decent 17". but with the huge price of the 30", imagine the cash you'd need for a 42? i'd much sooner get a regular lcd tv for 1/3 of the potential cost.
ITASOR
Aug 15, 2005, 10:15 PM
if they ever got rd of the 20" (which is really doubtful) then they'd at least have to introduce a decent 17". but with the huge price of the 30", imagine the cash you'd need for a 42? i'd much sooner get a regular lcd tv for 1/3 of the potential cost.
Or a DELL for 1/2 or so of the cost. Bad looks, but same LCD, so I'd rather save the money. Being forced to get 23" or higher wouldn't be a practical choice either.
rmhop81
Aug 15, 2005, 10:18 PM
Or a DELL for 1/2 or so of the cost. Bad looks, but same LCD, so I'd rather save the money. Being forced to get 23" or higher wouldn't be a practical choice either.
exactly why i bought my dell 20inch widescreen for only $359 vs. ACD of $799? i don't think so for the same screen.
dornoforpyros
Aug 15, 2005, 10:30 PM
if they ever got rd of the 20" (which is really doubtful) then they'd at least have to introduce a decent 17". but with the huge price of the 30", imagine the cash you'd need for a 42? i'd much sooner get a regular lcd tv for 1/3 of the potential cost.
I actually heard this to, I think the plan is to reduce the 23" down to the price of the 20, bump the 30 down to the price of the 23 and have the 42 take the place of the 30".
dotdotdot
Aug 15, 2005, 10:35 PM
I actually heard this to, I think the plan is to reduce the 23" down to the price of the 20, bump the 30 down to the price of the 23 and have the 42 take the place of the 30".
The 23" to 20" is believable. But they would NEVER, EVER release the 30" for the same as a 23" is today.
Unless they do what the did with the iPod and take out the necessities - like the stand, for example. It will just be the display. Thats more believable. :rolleyes:
Bibulous
Aug 15, 2005, 10:39 PM
The 20" is a tight fit on some desktops now, I think apple will always offer a 20" screen.
dornoforpyros
Aug 15, 2005, 10:44 PM
The 23" to 20" is believable. But they would NEVER, EVER release the 30" for the same as a 23" is today.
Unless they do what the did with the iPod and take out the necessities - like the stand, for example. It will just be the display. Thats more believable. :rolleyes:
As I recall the 17" used to cost $1000...
devilot
Aug 15, 2005, 10:45 PM
I actually heard this to, I think the plan is to reduce the 23" down to the price of the 20, bump the 30 down to the price of the 23 and have the 42 take the place of the 30".That line up and price range would be so juicy.
barneygumble
Aug 15, 2005, 10:48 PM
Well it fits in with the year of HD :p its a shame that apple will never let monitors go for cheap though i imagine a 42" would be at least $5K US but at least you could see the pictures of new digital slr's at native resoloution :eek:
dejo
Aug 15, 2005, 10:58 PM
I heard that may be discontinuing the 20" monitor to release a 42" model. As digital home computer (theater) systems are becoming more popular. Maybe this is Apple's way of getting into the TV market, "The year of HD".
I actually heard this to, I think the plan is to reduce the 23" down to the price of the 20, bump the 30 down to the price of the 23 and have the 42 take the place of the 30".
Hmm, and I heard the world was created in six days. :D
dejo
Aug 15, 2005, 10:59 PM
Well it fits in with the year of HD :p its a shame that apple will never let monitors go for cheap though i imagine a 42" would be at least $5K US but at least you could see the pictures of new digital slr's at native resoloution :eek:
The 22" Apple Cinema Display originally sold for $4999.
Lacero
Aug 15, 2005, 11:00 PM
The 22" Apple Cinema Display originally sold for $4999.$3999 in the US.
stoid
Aug 15, 2005, 11:00 PM
At what resolution though? I recall there being many arguments when the 30 inch 2560x1600 screen was released that dual-DVI was maxed out just to pump pixels fast enough. Logic would then say that you couldn't have a monitor with higher res than that. So if the monitor has the same res, but is just bigger, is it really all that?
dejo
Aug 15, 2005, 11:01 PM
$3999 in the US.
Oops, you're right. Sorry. Slipped a digit there...
clayj
Aug 15, 2005, 11:10 PM
42" ain't a monitor anymore... it's a TV. Seriously, almost no one has space for a 30" display on their desks, much less something that's almost a foot wider!
And don't forget that those 42" plasma and LCD TVs from Dell, Sony, Samsung, et al do NOT have the same resolution as even a 23" LCD monitor... they're designed for TV viewing and usually have no more than 768 vertical lines of resolution (1280 x 768 or 1388 x 768, commonly).
firststrike101
Aug 15, 2005, 11:23 PM
42" ain't a monitor anymore... it's a TV. Seriously, almost no one has space for a 30" display on their desks, much less something that's almost a foot wider!
Well from what I heard it is meant to be a apple branded TV for use as a home computer/theater setup. As you read in my first post. Not intended for a computer only monitor.
njmac
Aug 15, 2005, 11:27 PM
With Apple you never know. Everyone can speculate and think it is a bad idea until they see what Apple pulls out of the hat. Then we will wonder how we ever did without it :rolleyes:
barneygumble
Aug 15, 2005, 11:39 PM
With Apple you never know. Everyone can speculate and think it is a bad idea until they see what Apple pulls out of the hat. Then we will wonder how we ever did without it :rolleyes:
Becasue we can't afford it :p
Heb1228
Aug 15, 2005, 11:43 PM
it seems like 42" would be too large to look at from the distance you usually are away from a computer monitor. 42" is good for looking at from 5 or 10' or more. I think there can be such a thing as too big. ever try to sit on the front row at the movie theatre?
zach
Aug 15, 2005, 11:53 PM
i'm hoping this is true.. not because i want a 42" display, but because i want a 30" for the price of the current 23" :P
iWillard
Aug 16, 2005, 12:10 AM
I heard that may be discontinuing the 20" monitor to release a 42" model. As digital home computer (theater) systems are becoming more popular. Maybe this is Apple's way of getting into the TV market, "The year of HD".
what was the source on this?
42" is crazy big... that's like being able to have ALL the columns showing in iTunes.... while doing FCP..... and ichat open.... and looking through iphoto.... :D
hayduke
Aug 16, 2005, 12:18 AM
...that if I make a statement like,
"I heard that Apple is going to release a dual processor 3Ghz G5 laptop with ten hours of battery life next Tuesday."
I might generate a thread that people read, respond too, and get really excited about?
"I heard that the next powerbooks would come with a free pony..."
devilot
Aug 16, 2005, 12:19 AM
"I heard that the next powerbooks would come with a free pony..."Ooh, sign me up!!!
carlos700
Aug 16, 2005, 12:24 AM
Releasing a 42" is not practical. I hope/wish Apple would either release a 17-inch Widescreen around $349 or drop the price of all their displays around $200 to $250.
dornoforpyros
Aug 16, 2005, 12:36 AM
"I heard that the next powerbooks would come with a free pony..."
ohh I heard that one too! Except my source said it was a unicorn...and invisible pink unicorn to be exact.
Diatribe
Aug 16, 2005, 01:34 AM
ohh I heard that one too! Except my source said it was a unicorn...and invisible pink unicorn to be exact.
Damnit, and I wanted a green one. :mad:
greatdevourer
Aug 16, 2005, 04:25 AM
The 20" is a tight fit on some desktops now, I think apple will always offer a 20" screen. Yes, but they dropped the 15 and 17 pretty quickly
And don't forget that those 42" plasma and LCD TVs from Dell, Sony, Samsung, et al do NOT have the same resolution as even a 23" LCD monitor... they're designed for TV viewing and usually have no more than 768 vertical lines of resolution (1280 x 768 or 1388 x 768, commonly). Far as I remember, the huge ones are HDTV, which is 1600x1200 (or summat like that. Definatly not standard TV)
I can imagine Apple making and HDTV, what with the "year of the HD", along with many things in the design of the Mini which point to Apple having some big thing (like a media centre release of X). I mean, small form factor, relativly large HDD, DVI, lack of anything else with it... people have been pushing the idea around since the Mini's release
sambo.
Aug 16, 2005, 05:08 AM
a 42" monitor with less than 8ms response time...
i'd buy that! (and the PM to run it...)
TBi
Aug 16, 2005, 05:26 AM
Damnit, and I wanted a green one. :mad:
They come in a multitude of colours, but all invisible. So you can can your green one if you like. I'm getting the astral blue one with white horn!
Abstract
Aug 16, 2005, 06:26 AM
ohh I heard that one too! Except my source said it was a unicorn...and invisible pink unicorn to be exact.
How do you know it's pink?
I actually heard this to, I think the plan is to reduce the 23" down to the price of the 20, bump the 30 down to the price of the 23 and have the 42 take the place of the 30".
Pass the pipe, Cheech....
MacNoobie
Aug 16, 2005, 07:15 AM
Christ... 42" I have no doubt that eventually a monitor of this size will be released since its only time before apple will make one but 42" inches, I think at that point its classified as a tv. I have a 30" ACD and I cant imagine a screen thats what a foot and a half bigger? how the hell would you fit that on a normal desk, especially one with a shelf above it.
Mac_Freak
Aug 16, 2005, 07:52 AM
42" definitely qualifies for a HDTV; but then, since when Apple is in the TV business? THe last time I remember it was Apple Computer Inc.
sushi
Aug 16, 2005, 09:18 AM
$3999 in the US.
Yep, it was 4 grand when introduced.
Bought one. Still have it. Works great. Perfect pixels. Love it.
And here in rocky Japan, just had another 7.2 quake, I prefer the three feet vice one of the new displays when we play rock and roll like today.
Plan on keeping the display until it dies. :D
Sushi
sushi
Aug 16, 2005, 09:22 AM
I heard that may be discontinuing the 20" monitor to release a 42" model. As digital home computer (theater) systems are becoming more popular. Maybe this is Apple's way of getting into the TV market, "The year of HD".
A 42 inch model would be nice.
Especially if it were introduced at the 30 inch price, or close to it, and the 30 inch price was reduced.
I doubt they will discontinue the 20 inch monitor. They need a small sized one.
A line up of 20, 23, 30 and 42 would be fine.
I would see Apple dropping the 23 before they drop the 20, if the 42 is introduced.
Sushi
dornoforpyros
Aug 16, 2005, 09:48 AM
How do you know it's pink?
It's the invisible pink unicorn, it can do anything including being both pink and invisible.
eva01
Aug 16, 2005, 09:50 AM
It's the invisible pink unicorn, it can do anything including being both pink and invisible.
Does it have bluetooth? I want to connect to it :D
clayj
Aug 16, 2005, 10:30 AM
Far as I remember, the huge ones are HDTV, which is 1600x1200 (or summat like that. Definatly not standard TV)All that's required for a set to qualify for the "HDTV" label is that it have 720 vertical lines of resolution... if it can display a 720p or a downconverted 1080i broacast, it's HDTV.
I think a lot of folks reading this might be assuming that a 42" Apple "monitor" might end up something like this:
Apple 30" Cinema Display = 2560 x 1600 resolution, so...
Apple 42" Behemoth Display = 3584 x 2240 resolution
But it just ain't so... the cost would be astronomical. A 42" display is likely to be no better than a comparable Dell, Sony, or Samsung 42" plasma/LCD display.
devilot
Aug 16, 2005, 10:38 AM
...astronomical...Haha, I can't hear/read that word w/out wanting to crack up because it reminds me of the autistic guy in the movie, The Cube. :D :o
dornoforpyros
Aug 16, 2005, 11:28 AM
Does it have bluetooth? I want to connect to it :D
It's the invisible pink unicorn, it can do anything it wants, and more!
GilGrissom
Aug 16, 2005, 11:47 AM
Oh this thread is a hoot! :D But to say something worthwhile here!, I remember (not heard!) TiVo/Apple rumors. Could that help fuel more TV speculations amongst you guys??!!...enjoy!
Platform
Aug 16, 2005, 11:55 AM
The 23" to 20" is believable. But they would NEVER, EVER release the 30" for the same as a 23" is today.
Unless they do what the did with the iPod and take out the necessities - like the stand, for example. It will just be the display. Thats more believable. :rolleyes:
Never say never ;)
sushi
Aug 16, 2005, 12:01 PM
Never say never ;)
Yep, especially with Apple:
Never will build a headless Mac (after the cube).
--> Enter the Mac Mini
Never will use a two button mouse.
--> Enter the mighty mouse
Never will use an Intel chip.
--> Enter the Intel Inside era
Sushi
TBi
Aug 16, 2005, 12:51 PM
Although it could just be a big hi-def screen 1920x1200. An Apple branded TV which you can plug your iPod into to play your mp3's over the built in speakers. This is the year of hi definition ...
kalisphoenix
Aug 16, 2005, 01:02 PM
If I understand correctly, the problem with creating LCDs is that the fabrication process is likely to fail -- and so the likelihood for getting an unacceptable number of dead pixels raises extremely fast when you increase the pixel density or display area. More LCDs thrown away, higher prices are needed in order to pay for the wasted time and materials.
What if a new fabrication process made it considerably easier to reliably produce huge, high-density LCDs? Everyone knows that damn near everything has an LCD these days, so perhaps the R&D has gotten somewhere?
GilGrissom
Aug 16, 2005, 01:10 PM
Hmmm....I think these massive screens are a bit vulnerable. They should build them with a (thin) plastic or glass front to protect screen damage and indents, as well as maybe making it easier to clean. Some manufacturers do at the protective layer on. I think with big screens etc, it should definately be on! The potential for something to go wrong would be too high! (I'm not just talking technical, I'm talking physical.)
Yvan256
Aug 16, 2005, 01:26 PM
exactly why i bought my dell 20inch widescreen for only $359 vs. ACD of $799? i don't think so for the same screen.
I don't know where you guys are getting your 2005FPW for 360$US, but according to Dell.ca, this monitor is 900$CAD... (And Apple's 20" Cinema Display is 1000$CAD) :(
Where do I get a 2005FPW for 430$CAD?! :confused:
ravenvii
Aug 16, 2005, 01:52 PM
I don't know where you guys are getting your 2005FPW for 360$US, but according to Dell.ca, this monitor is 900$CAD... (And Apple's 20" Cinema Display is 1000$CAD) :(
Where do I get a 2005FPW for 430$CAD?! :confused:
You can't, it's a U.S. thing.
Yvan256
Aug 16, 2005, 03:28 PM
You can't, it's a U.S. thing.
Great, a U.S.-only pricing for something that's made in Taiwan anyway. Ain't global markets great. :rolleyes:
jamesW135
Aug 16, 2005, 05:42 PM
30'' is to much 42'' NO WAY!
Tommy591
Aug 16, 2005, 05:45 PM
... (I'm not just talking technical, I'm talking physical.)
Exactly. Just like the invisible pink unicorn.
GilGrissom
Aug 16, 2005, 06:00 PM
Exactly. Just like the invisible pink unicorn.
Indeed!! Is there an aqua one or a tiger stripped one?? Do they come with a free reality distortion field accessory?? You've encapsulated the essence of my post perfectly!!
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