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ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:11 PM
Which of the two does everyone think are superior and why? For comparative purposes we'll talk about the North American SGS3 which has the dual core.

The only hardware advantages I see over the iPhone are

Screen size (really an opinion)
2GB of RAM vs. 1GB RAM.

I currently have the S3 and enjoy it a good deal, but I'm seriously debating whether or not to get the 5. I've owned iPhones since the 3GS and even had the 4S for a while (which I had traded for the S3 lol) But now it seems that the 5 might be the same or better now (minus screen and RAM)

Opinions?



TSX
Sep 15, 2012, 03:21 PM
The more ram the faster your battery depletes.

TM WAZZA
Sep 15, 2012, 03:21 PM
If you are having double thoughts, you're most likely not happy with your S3 ;)

So get a 5

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
If you are having double thoughts, you're most likely not happy with your S3 ;)

So get a 5

lol it might just be me being my technologically impulsive self. I wasn't certain about getting the S3 either. I think I'd be happy either way, but I'd rather feel confident that I'm getting a better phone, and find out why it's the better phone, which is why I'm asking.

The reason I got the 4S was because it was better/faster than the 4. I got the S3 because it had better hardware than the 4S. I wanna do the same thing with the iPhone 5.

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The more ram the faster your battery depletes.

I did not know that. I thought that was only true if the RAM was actively in use? I usually have a gig or so free most of the time.I know that when I had 512MB on the 4S I ran out constantly. Maybe 1GB is the perfect balance?



EDIT: Another thing I forgot to add was that I think that the S3 has better battery life. The 5 seems to be about the same as the 4S which kinda sucks IMHO.

Applejuiced
Sep 15, 2012, 03:35 PM
Better hardware specs dont always translate to better user experience.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:37 PM
Better hardware specs dont always translate to better user experience.

I suppose this is true. I remember when I had my iPhone 4 there were a good number of Android phones with raw numbers that did better than the 4, but in tests they'd still fall to teh mighty iPhone. But nowadays I don't know if that's as true.

MacDawg
Sep 15, 2012, 03:38 PM
The 5 seems to be about the same as the 4S which kinda sucks IMHO.

I've never had an issue with my battery life on my 4s

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
I've never had an issue with my battery life on my 4s

Well it depends on your usage. Mileage may vary. This is just my experience I'm speaking of.

SR71
Sep 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
lol it might just be me being my technologically impulsive self. I wasn't certain about getting the S3 either. I think I'd be happy either way, but I'd rather feel confident that I'm getting a better phone, and find out why it's the better phone, which is why I'm asking.

The reason I got the 4S was because it was better/faster than the 4. I got the S3 because it had better hardware than the 4S. I wanna do the same thing with the iPhone 5.

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I did not know that. I thought that was only true if the RAM was actively in use? I usually have a gig or so free most of the time.I know that when I had 512MB on the 4S I ran out constantly. Maybe 1GB is the perfect balance?



EDIT: Another thing I forgot to add was that I think that the S3 has better battery life. The 5 seems to be about the same as the 4S which kinda sucks IMHO.

They actually said that the battery life exceeds that of the 4S considerably. The 4S get's 6 hours of 3G battery life, while the iPhone 5 get's 8 hours of battery life over LTE, which uses considerably more power than 3G, so that in an of itself is a good way to base it off of. The 4S is said to get 200 hours standby time, while the 5 is said to get 225 hours. That's another rather large increase. Not to mention that all the hands-on videos/impressions that I read reported the iPhone 5 being significantly faster than the iPhone 4S. Overall, I don't think battery life will be an issue with the iPhone 5.

illutionz
Sep 15, 2012, 03:43 PM
I suppose this is true. I remember when I had my iPhone 4 there were a good number of Android phones with raw numbers that did better than the 4, but in tests they'd still fall to teh mighty iPhone. But nowadays I don't know if that's as true.

Android has definitely come a long way. Jellybean is the first Android version that I will consider using. The smoothness of UI is greatly improved with their Project Butter... It all boils down to your software preference as the hardware is really competitive. iPhone 5 is extremely sleek looking and it looks like a great accessory. SGS3 looks more utilitarian but gets the job done as well.

One complaint I notice for SGS3 is battery life so might want to look into that.

Pick Android or iOS :)

Applejuiced
Sep 15, 2012, 03:45 PM
I suppose this is true. I remember when I had my iPhone 4 there were a good number of Android phones with raw numbers that did better than the 4, but in tests they'd still fall to teh mighty iPhone. But nowadays I don't know if that's as true.

You suppose huh?
Battery life is great on my 4S.
I only need to charge it every other day and runs nice and smooth. The i5 will have slightly better battery and offcourse will run faster and smoother.
Your choice but it seems like you already made it and now trying to justify it to yourself.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:53 PM
They actually said that the battery life exceeds that of the 4S considerably. The 4S get's 6 hours of 3G battery life, while the iPhone 5 get's 8 hours of battery life over LTE, which uses considerably more power than 3G, so that in an of itself is a good way to base it off of. The 4S is said to get 200 hours standby time, while the 5 is said to get 225 hours. That's another rather large increase. Not to mention that all the hands-on videos/impressions that I read reported the iPhone 5 being significantly faster than the iPhone 4S. Overall, I don't think battery life will be an issue with the iPhone 5.

Alright then, my worries about the iPhone 5's battery life are gone. Thank you.

Prime85
Sep 15, 2012, 03:54 PM
Android doesn't have good ram management and that is why it lags even on the S3. Phones don't need 2gb of ram. Many computers with more ram intensive programs run perfectly with two gigs, so why does a phone need it? You don't multitasking nearly as much with a phone as you do with a computer. The reason Samsung put it in was a gimmick. People will say look it has more ram so it must be better. Remember having more ram does not make it faster but allows you to have more programs open at a time which android is horrible at managing. iOS is much smoother. iPhone 4S has 512gb of ram and it is much more smooth and stable then the galaxies 2gb. It depends on software not hardware.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:54 PM
Android has definitely come a long way. Jellybean is the first Android version that I will consider using. The smoothness of UI is greatly improved with their Project Butter... It all boils down to your software preference as the hardware is really competitive. iPhone 5 is extremely sleek looking and it looks like a great accessory. SGS3 looks more utilitarian but gets the job done as well.

One complaint I notice for SGS3 is battery life so might want to look into that.

Pick Android or iOS :)

Jelly Bean is quite smooth indeed. It's great on this phone. I definitely think the iPhone is sexier.

hawk1410
Sep 15, 2012, 03:56 PM
Are you liking Android? If yes then keep the S3, I am in the same position as you except that I have a Htc One X, i think i am gonna stick with it cause i really liked android.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 03:58 PM
You suppose huh?
Battery life is great on my 4S.
I only need to charge it every other day and runs nice and smooth. The i5 will have slightly better battery and offcourse will run faster and smoother.
Your choice but it seems like you already made it and now trying to justify it to yourself.

I had to charge it every day. The choice I've sorta already made the iPhone 5, which is what I'm trying to justify. I just sold my iPad for the thing so I want to make myself sure that I made the right decision (I didn't really use the iPad for those who think it was a terrible decision because of that)

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Are you liking Android? If yes then keep the S3, I am in the same position as you except that I have a Htc One X, i think i am gonna stick with it cause i really liked android.

That's part of the difficulty for me. I enjoy both systems. Stock Android > stock iOS, and then when it comes to custom ROMs vs jailbroken iOS, I'm stuck. Also, the One X is pretty boss.

AzN1337c0d3r
Sep 15, 2012, 04:21 PM
When it comes to custom ROMs vs jailbroken iOS, I'm stuck.

The Android custom ROM community is far more active than the iOS jailbreak community.

Plus the Android community can usually do more, since the source code for the OS and kernel is released for each device.

Mrg02d
Sep 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
The Android custom ROM community is far more active than the iOS jailbreak community.

Plus the Android community can usually do more, since the source code for the OS and kernel is released for each device.

Yeah. Jail broken is very basic compared to rooting.

stuffradio
Sep 15, 2012, 05:06 PM
The more ram the faster your battery depletes.

Explain, don't just assume that to be true. Explain the technical reason, or else you're just spewing things to make the iPhone seem superior, which is not really an area it needs help in.

TM WAZZA
Sep 15, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jail broken iPhone vs Rooted android

I like jail broken iPhone more since there is a big support behind it. And cydia is basically the AppStore but full of amazing tweaks.

With android there's different manufacturers, different versions of the same phone and so the community is split

http://m.lifehacker.com/5916593/forget-android-the-iphone-is-a-better-phone-for-hacking-tweaking-and-customization

ethana
Sep 15, 2012, 05:15 PM
iPhone 5 has superior speed, not a doubt in my mind. The new A6 chip is going to blow the competition away.

As for everything else, I don't have an opinion yet until I see and use the device.

kilj0y
Sep 15, 2012, 05:21 PM
Coming from someone who has owned both, I prefer iOS to Android. I have been jailbroken and rooted and all that jazz but now I am giving up my Nexus for an I5. For me I just like the experience that iOS offers and the ecosystem of all my things (apple tv, mac, ipad).

If you really can not decide, buy the I5 use it for 2 weeks if you like it better keep it, if not return it.

Problem solved without having to revert to a bunch of strangers saying why they like something vs the other.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 05:52 PM
The Android custom ROM community is far more active than the iOS jailbreak community.

Plus the Android community can usually do more, since the source code for the OS and kernel is released for each device.

Active yes, but scattered? Also true. many ROMs for many different phones.

Also, I don't know how true it is but I've heard that there's more source code and information for iOS than Android.

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Yeah. Jail broken is very basic compared to rooting.

Hm?

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Explain, don't just assume that to be true. Explain the technical reason, or else you're just spewing things to make the iPhone seem superior, which is not really an area it needs help in.

This.

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Jail broken iPhone vs Rooted android

I like jail broken iPhone more since there is a big support behind it. And cydia is basically the AppStore but full of amazing tweaks.

With android there's different manufacturers, different versions of the same phone and so the community is split

http://m.lifehacker.com/5916593/forget-android-the-iphone-is-a-better-phone-for-hacking-tweaking-and-customization

I do find it easier to find jailbroken tweaks and such compared to rooted ones. +1 to iPhone I suppose.

oBMTo
Sep 15, 2012, 06:06 PM
custom ROMs vs jailbroken iOS, I'm stuck.

Custom ROMs > Jailbroken iOS

And it's not even close.

Clete2
Sep 15, 2012, 06:06 PM
Neither; user preference.

Wrathwitch
Sep 15, 2012, 09:02 PM
For what my opinion is worth regarding hardware. If you put the chipsets aside, and look at form factor and materials. I have to hand it to Apple. Now that they have ditched the stupid glass front and back and replaced with Aluminum and a better screen material, the device is going to feel very well made without being the glass brick it was.

As far as chipsets go and the hardware guts, I don't know enough about each to offer an educated opinion.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 09:22 PM
For what my opinion is worth regarding hardware. If you put the chipsets aside, and look at form factor and materials. I have to hand it to Apple. Now that they have ditched the stupid glass front and back and replaced with Aluminum and a better screen material, the device is going to feel very well made without being the glass brick it was.

As far as chipsets go and the hardware guts, I don't know enough about each to offer an educated opinion.

Thank you for your input. It's appreciated. I wonder how tough the aluminum will be to scratch though?

3bs
Sep 15, 2012, 09:33 PM
Thank you for your input. It's appreciated. I wonder how tough the aluminum will be to scratch though?

That's the only thing I'm worried about now that they switched to aluminium.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 15, 2012, 09:46 PM
I don't think there is a superior.



Android doesn't have good ram management and that is why it lags even on the S3. Phones don't need 2gb of ram. Many computers with more ram intensive programs run perfectly with two gigs, so why does a phone need it? You don't multitasking nearly as much with a phone as you do with a computer. The reason Samsung put it in was a gimmick. People will say look it has more ram so it must be better. Remember having more ram does not make it faster but allows you to have more programs open at a time which android is horrible at managing. iOS is much smoother. iPhone 4S has 512gb of ram and it is much more smooth and stable then the galaxies 2gb. It depends on software not hardware.

And this is according to ......? Have you actually owned a GS3? :cool:

I can tell you the SG3 even out the box is fast and smooth, no lags at all even under heavy multitasking. Some say 2gb overkill, but I didn't get the GS3 for the 2gb and it definitely doesn't hurt to have it. Battery life is just as good as my iP4. I don't see iOS being an smoother or faster than ICS on the GS3.

ObsidianBlade
Sep 15, 2012, 09:55 PM
I can tell you the SG3 even out the box is fast and smooth, no lags at all even under heavy multitasking. Some say 2gb overkill, but I didn't get the GS3 for the 2gb and it definitely doesn't hurt to have it. Battery life is just as good as my iP4.

Yup it's awesome for that. I have yet to use all the RAM too.

Prime85
Sep 15, 2012, 10:58 PM
I 't think there is a superior.





And this is according to ......? Have you actually owned a GS3? :cool:

I can tell you the SG3 even out the box is fast and smooth, no lags at all even under heavy multitasking. Some say 2gb overkill, but I didn't get the GS3 for the 2gb and it definitely doesn't hurt to have it. Battery life is just as good as my iP4. I don't see iOS being an smoother or faster than ICS on the GS3.

Well then you must have a custom rom on yours then because I constantly have to clear the ram. You shouldn't have to add a custom rom to get it to run smooth. Not to mention most of the features they brag about are useless. I'm not saying its a bad phone, its just that iOS is much better. Hopefully jellybean fixes the problems but I will still get the iPhone 5 and will most likely use my S3 for web browsing.

KentuckyHouse
Sep 15, 2012, 11:13 PM
The more ram the faster your battery depletes.

This is so completely untrue. Don't just come in here spewing complete BS without backing it up. Facts/proof. But you won't because you don't have any and its a complete lie.

joshwithachance
Sep 15, 2012, 11:13 PM
Hardware wise the iPhone 5 definitely wins, but overall the Galaxy S III wins in my opinion. My problem with the iPhone has never been that it's low quality or too slow, it's that it's been stagnant OS wise for a few years now. They're not moving forward software wise, which matters more than hardware any day.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 15, 2012, 11:16 PM
Well then you must have a custom rom on yours then because I constantly have to clear the ram. You shouldn't have to add a custom rom to get it to run smooth. Not to mention most of the features they brag about are useless. I'm not saying its a bad phone, its just that iOS is much better. Hopefully jellybean fixes the problems but I will still get the iPhone 5 and will most likely use my S3 for web browsing.

No I don't. I'm running stock ICS w/ touchwiz. Even though I rooted, I haven't yet tried a custom rom on my GS3 yet. I haven't messed with anything, not even clocking. Like I said in my statement, been running smooth out the box.

I agree some features are gimmicks. Like picture in picture which seems to only work on the default video app and moboplayer. But you sure can't knock it.



This is so completely untrue. Don't just come in here spewing complete BS without backing it up. Facts/proof. But you won't because you don't have any and its a complete lie.

It is actually true. But it's so little of a differ that it's not even a factor. This really applies to laptops/notebooks.

Wrathwitch
Sep 16, 2012, 09:34 AM
I don't think there is a superior.





And this is according to ......? Have you actually owned a GS3? :cool:

I can tell you the SG3 even out the box is fast and smooth, no lags at all even under heavy multitasking. Some say 2gb overkill, but I didn't get the GS3 for the 2gb and it definitely doesn't hurt to have it. Battery life is just as good as my iP4. I don't see iOS being an smoother or faster than ICS on the GS3.

I am finding the occasional lag on my device even if I clear my RAM fairly frequently. The most obvious is likely a software issue wherein you exit from the default sms and the screen flickers while restoring to the home screen.

Well then you must have a custom rom on yours then because I constantly have to clear the ram. You shouldn't have to add a custom rom to get it to run smooth. Not to mention most of the features they brag about are useless. I'm not saying its a bad phone, its just that iOS is much better. Hopefully jellybean fixes the problems but I will still get the iPhone 5 and will most likely use my S3 for web browsing.

I am also getting the occasional lag or very infrequent freeze (very short duration) mostly after installing widget locker. Not sure if that is the cause or what. Either way, not going to root until JB is out.

So, no the device is not perfect, but it is still extremely pleasant to use and I don't regret my purchase. It would be different if it froze or locked on me on a regular basis or when something important was needed like my alarm clock on it. If that changes, we will see.

Bells and whistles are great but if it impacts the useability of the device, then I will go with the most consistent and reliable one, regardless of maker.

nba1341
Sep 16, 2012, 09:42 AM
I am finding the occasional lag on my device even if I clear my RAM fairly frequently. The most obvious is likely a software issue wherein you exit from the default sms and the screen flickers while restoring to the home screen.



I am also getting the occasional lag or very infrequent freeze (very short duration) mostly after installing widget locker. Not sure if that is the cause or what. Either way, not going to root until JB is out.

So, no the device is not perfect, but it is still extremely pleasant to use and I don't regret my purchase. It would be different if it froze or locked on me on a regular basis or when something important was needed like my alarm clock on it. If that changes, we will see.

Bells and whistles are great but if it impacts the useability of the device, then I will go with the most consistent and reliable one, regardless of maker.


Your problem is app based not phone/os based. teslacoil or whatever that troll who made widget lockers name is hasn't touched widget locker for months. He only cares about his ics/jb launcher now

Mrg02d
Sep 16, 2012, 01:04 PM
I don't think there is a superior.





And this is according to ......? Have you actually owned a GS3? :cool:

I can tell you the SG3 even out the box is fast and smooth, no lags at all even under heavy multitasking. Some say 2gb overkill, but I didn't get the GS3 for the 2gb and it definitely doesn't hurt to have it. Battery life is just as good as my iP4. I don't see iOS being an smoother or faster than ICS on the GS3.

2gb will be welcomed once android gets more advanced down the road. even though I'll likely upgrade before android requires 1gb of ram just to run itself, it's great for those that keep their phones forever.

Wrathwitch
Sep 16, 2012, 07:33 PM
Your problem is app based not phone/os based. teslacoil or whatever that troll who made widget lockers name is hasn't touched widget locker for months. He only cares about his ics/jb launcher now

Hmmm really?