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LVappleNOTfnboi
Sep 15, 2012, 10:18 PM
I have been waiting for the iPhone 5 event for the past three years. My iPhone 3g has been hanging tough for four years with constant reminders of how durable the phone is. The iPhone carved in stone what a smartphone should be. Thank You Steve for changing the game for the better. When I threw my blackberry away four years ago because the iPhone hit me with a ton of WOW bricks, I was amazed! Between my wife and daughter, I've had ample time to play with the 4 and 4s. No WOW bricks fell on my head between the two, so no upgrade for me, still plucking away with my 3g. My excitement was at an all time high before the leaks started, and slowly they came down to an all time low when I realized the leaks were going to be 100% accurate. I still held out hope that Tim had something up his sleeve to WOW us, but that fell flat on the 12th with the announcement. Really Tim?? I just wanted that magical feeling back when I unbox my 5. After playing with the Galaxy s3, I got that magical/WOW feeling back!! I will be picking one up tomorrow for a test drive. If the phone does not work out, I will return it on Friday, and go back to my old faithful the iPhone 5. Thank you Android for stepping your game up and giving me what I want in a smartphone. On the other hand I love my macbook air, ipad, iMac, iPod touch, apple tv and would never give those up, and I mean never!



robdam1001
Sep 15, 2012, 10:20 PM
Baffling,........It's a phone....why MUST your phone WOW you ever upgrade? A phone can only do so much.


"After playing with the Galaxy s3, I got that magical/WOW feeling back!!"

I get that same WOW feeling when I **** a new girl.

AFDoc
Sep 15, 2012, 10:21 PM
Ok, thanks I guess.

unlimitedx
Sep 15, 2012, 10:21 PM
There's definitely a lot of smart phones on the market now such that everybody should be able to find a smart phone that fits their taste. That is a good thing

Frankied22
Sep 15, 2012, 10:24 PM
If you didn't think the iPhone 4 was a worthy upgrade from your iPhone 3G then I am not sure what you're hoping for. The iPhone 4 was the most radical iPhone release.

freedevil
Sep 15, 2012, 10:26 PM
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tl01
Sep 15, 2012, 10:26 PM
I know they are not an S3 but I briefly had a note and a Galaxy nexus. Ugh! No wow there. I couldn't get back to my 4s quickly enough. Maybe the S3 is a zillion worlds beyond those two phones but I can't imagine it. Can't wait for my iPhone 5 on Friday though!

Sgt93
Sep 15, 2012, 10:27 PM
I'm still waiting for the iPhone 10th anniversary edition....

Applejuiced
Sep 15, 2012, 10:28 PM
All I have to say is Wow. You manage to last the past 3 years with an iphone 3G?
And the i5 didnt wow you but the s3 did?
Good for you, back to your android forum.
All your 10 posts here are the same. S3 this S3 that, iphone sucks etc...
Why are you even here besides the obvious?

BoxerGT2.5
Sep 15, 2012, 10:33 PM
I'd give the S3 2-3 weeks and go in with the mindset that it isn't gonna ever be iOS. It's unique in its openness which can pay dividends. You can also get frustrated at first. Same goes for those who migrate to the vanilla iOS. Both have their pros and cons.

daneoni
Sep 15, 2012, 10:33 PM
I think you built up an insurmountable hype/expectation for yourself. But good luck with the S3.

TheBuffather
Sep 15, 2012, 10:37 PM
What on God's green earth do you want out of a phone??

NFC?
That's not widely adopted and will hardly be used by anyone, not to mention ADD to the bulk/weight of the phone.

A bigger screen?
Not many people want that, so feel free to go elsewhere if you want a tablet as a phone.

Wireless charging?
There's no real advantage. You have to sit it down on some awkward pad taking up tons of space on your nightstand or desk. It may be wireless but something still has to TOUCH the phone.

An even better camera?
If you know anything about SLRs and cameras in general, then you'd know megapixels aren't as important once you reach a certain threshold. The processing power is what can make a 5MP camera better than a 12MP, and so on.

Also: are you forgetting about iOS 6? It's pretty awesome. Did you forget about having to restart your blackberry daily to keep it working? Android isn't much different. Before getting the iPhone a couple years ago, I had a handful of Android devices- they all sucked equally bad. No other phone has iOS; nor do they have the magnificent engineering of an iPhone. Android phones all look and feel like a toddler's toy phone. If that's what you want, then ENJOY IT, but you'll regret it.

Mxbzz
Sep 15, 2012, 11:08 PM
What on God's green earth do you want out of a phone??

NFC?
That's not widely adopted and will hardly be used by anyone, not to mention ADD to the bulk/weight of the phone.

A bigger screen?
Not many people want that, so feel free to go elsewhere if you want a tablet as a phone.

Wireless charging?
There's no real advantage. You have to sit it down on some awkward pad taking up tons of space on your nightstand or desk. It may be wireless but something still has to TOUCH the phone.

An even better camera?
If you know anything about SLRs and cameras in general, then you'd know megapixels aren't as important once you reach a certain threshold. The processing power is what can make a 5MP camera better than a 12MP, and so on.

Also: are you forgetting about iOS 6? It's pretty awesome. Did you forget about having to restart your blackberry daily to keep it working? Android isn't much different. Before getting the iPhone a couple years ago, I had a handful of Android devices- they all sucked equally bad. No other phone has iOS; nor do they have the magnificent engineering of an iPhone. Android phones all look and feel like a toddler's toy phone. If that's what you want, then ENJOY IT, but you'll regret it.

Just because NFC isn't widely adopted yet doesn't mean we should shun it out. For the record, an NFC chip doesn't have to add any extra bulk as it is pretty small.

The millions of phones that are sold with 4"+ screens say otherwise. Just because you don't want a bigger screen doesn't make you the spokesman for everyone else.

Wireless charging would be a great addition in an ecosystem such as with Apple products. Imagine being able to charge your iPad or iPhone without needing to plug it in. We shouldn't shun new technology just because Apple decided not to use it.

The camera on the SG3 and iPhone 4S were quite comparable in terms of picture quality. I suspect the 5 will produce similar shots.

I agree that the iPhone has the best build quality out of other comparable phones, but we can't blame the Android OS for that. There are a few contenders like the Droid RAZR that are built pretty well, so that is all on the phone manufacturer. Personally, I enjoy the Android OS and Google's consistency on releasing major updates. That being said, I preordered an iPhone 5 as it plays nicely with my other Apple products, but I give kudos to Samsung. The SG3 is quite a nice phone.

Mars Is Waiting
Sep 15, 2012, 11:15 PM
Just because NFC isn't widely adopted yet doesn't mean we should shun it out. For the record, an NFC chip doesn't have to add any extra bulk as it is pretty small.



So you're an engineer now? You know how you'd be able to fit in your NFC chip into the new iPhone 5's circuitry? Get real :rolleyes:

TheBuffather
Sep 15, 2012, 11:16 PM
Just because NFC isn't widely adopted yet doesn't mean we should shun it out. For the record, an NFC chip doesn't have to add any extra bulk as it is pretty small.

I don't think there's any shunning here, NFC is just technology that isn't widely adopted. Most consumers have no idea what NFC is, and only a small niche would utilize it. It's simply not worth it yet. Also, the chip may be small, but other chips were added/modified which could make it impossible to add NFC and keep the slim profile of the iPhone 5.


The millions of phones that are sold with 4"+ screens say otherwise. Just because you don't want a bigger screen doesn't make you the spokesman for everyone else.

I was in no way speaking for other people, simple stating that most people aren't looking for a 4"+ phone. Maybe millions of people would like it, but many millions more don't. It's simple logic; not sure why you don't see what I am saying.


Wireless charging would be a great addition in an ecosystem such as with Apple products. Imagine being able to charge your iPad or iPhone without needing to plug it in. We shouldn't shun new technology just because Apple decided not to use it.

I would enjoy it, no doubt. But it's not really advantageous. Most people hear "wireless" and think of the WiFi type of wireless. This isn't the case with current wireless charging (However, uBeam (http://ubeam.com) is trying to change that). There is no real advantage (yet), especially the reversibility of the lightning cable

BoxerGT2.5
Sep 15, 2012, 11:27 PM
What on God's green earth do you want out of a phone??

NFC?
That's not widely adopted and will hardly be used by anyone, not to mention ADD to the bulk/weight of the phone.


NFC is built into the battery in most devices and I'd bet I could find more places I could use google wallet then Apple could find carriers utilizing wideband audio.

turtle777
Sep 15, 2012, 11:30 PM
After playing with the Galaxy s3, I got that magical/WOW feeling back!! I will be picking one up tomorrow for a test drive.

Ok, so would you please be more specific ?

What exactly WOWed you about the Galaxy, and disappointed you with the iPhone 5 ?

Btw, I assume your disappointment was merely based on reading about the iPhone5 or watching the Keynote. Or were you able to test it in person ?

-t

TheBuffather
Sep 15, 2012, 11:38 PM
NFC is built into the battery in most devices and I'd bet I could find more places I could use google wallet then Apple could find carriers utilizing wideband audio.

In the US, sure. NFC isn't usually built into the battery from my understanding. There A) a chip, and B) an antenna that is usually wrapped around the battery.

LVappleNOTfnboi
Sep 16, 2012, 01:06 AM
Ok, so would you please be more specific ?

What exactly WOWed you about the Galaxy, and disappointed you with the iPhone 5 ?

Btw, I assume your disappointment was merely based on reading about the iPhone5 or watching the Keynote. Or were you able to test it in person ?

-t

I really enjoyed the custom UI, LED notification, NFC, bigger screen, more memory, better battery life, I dig the biometric swipe, and jelly bean. I'm leaning more towards the custom UI than any feature. Yes my disappointment is from reading and watching the keynote, Im not sure if I need to test it in person.

Mxbzz
Sep 16, 2012, 01:48 AM
So you're an engineer now? You know how you'd be able to fit in your NFC chip into the new iPhone 5's circuitry? Get real :rolleyes:

I don't have to get real. If you think a tiny NFC chip is going to make a phone bigger and heavier, I don't know what to tell you.

No, I'm not an engineer, but have you even read about the technology? Hell, they even have SIM cards with NFC embedded in the gold contacts. The point is Apple chose not to add this feature intentionally, not because there was no room. We can even go back to last year when there was speculation of NFC being in the 4S. This isn't some new technology to Apple. :rolleyes:

Edit: And yes, the antenna is wrapped around the battery, which is no thicker than Apple's warranty caution sticker. Mix two and two together and the issue becomes moot.

1rottenapple
Sep 16, 2012, 01:54 AM
baffling,........it's a phone....why must your phone wow you ever upgrade? A phone can only do so much.


"after playing with the galaxy s3, i got that magical/wow feeling back!!"

i get that same wow feeling when i **** a new girl.



:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

People are waaaay to invested in this whole iphone vs android thing.

Mxbzz
Sep 16, 2012, 01:56 AM
I don't think there's any shunning here, NFC is just technology that isn't widely adopted. Most consumers have no idea what NFC is, and only a small niche would utilize it. It's simply not worth it yet. Also, the chip may be small, but other chips were added/modified which could make it impossible to add NFC and keep the slim profile of the iPhone 5.



I was in no way speaking for other people, simple stating that most people aren't looking for a 4"+ phone. Maybe millions of people would like it, but many millions more don't. It's simple logic; not sure why you don't see what I am saying.



I would enjoy it, no doubt. But it's not really advantageous. Most people hear "wireless" and think of the WiFi type of wireless. This isn't the case with current wireless charging (However, uBeam (http://ubeam.com) is trying to change that). There is no real advantage (yet), especially the reversibility of the lightning cable


So why are you speaking so negatively on the SG3 for incorporating this new technology? I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but your original statements bash on SG3 for bringing something new to the table. The SG3 is Samsung's current flagship phone. A trademark for a flagship phone is the new features it brings to the table, so let's let the consumer decide if they want to use it or not, but at least they'll have the option.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, but I think the SG3 deserves more credit then you're giving it.

mrsir2009
Sep 16, 2012, 02:00 AM
Baffling,........It's a phone....why MUST your phone WOW you ever upgrade? A phone can only do so much.


"After playing with the Galaxy s3, I got that magical/WOW feeling back!!"

I get that same WOW feeling when I **** a new girl.

The little boy who never grew up :)

TheBuffather
Sep 16, 2012, 02:02 AM
So why are you speaking so negatively on the SG3 for incorporating this new technology? I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but your original statements bash on SG3 for bringing something new to the table. The SG3 is Samsung's current flagship phone. A trademark for a flagship phone is the new features it brings to the table, so let's let the consumer decide if they want to use it or not, but at least they'll have the option.

I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, but I think the SG3 deserves more credit then you're giving it.


Woah, hold on. Where am I bashing Samsung?

mcman77
Sep 16, 2012, 03:09 AM
Baffling,........It's a phone....why MUST your phone WOW you ever upgrade? A phone can only do so much.


"After playing with the Galaxy s3, I got that magical/WOW feeling back!!"

I get that same WOW feeling when I **** a new girl.

Even if that new girl is mad ugly & a fatty? :p

Just kidding...point is, for that price yes I want the wow factor!

On contract here in the UK is costs more than a base iMac/MBA/MBP, when the competition phones are what they are and cost so much less!

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What on God's green earth do you want out of a phone??

Also: are you forgetting about iOS 6? It's pretty awesome. Did you forget about having to restart your blackberry daily to keep it working? Android isn't much different. Before getting the iPhone a couple years ago, I had a handful of Android devices- they all sucked equally bad. No other phone has iOS; nor do they have the magnificent engineering of an iPhone. Android phones all look and feel like a toddler's toy phone. If that's what you want, then ENJOY IT, but you'll regret it.

Better OS. forget the feeling and everything else. The OS itself and nothing else.

Wrathwitch
Sep 16, 2012, 07:52 PM
*edit I deleted the original quote because i misquoted. I meant this response to be directed ad JBuff's post regarding having "a handful of Android devices a couple of years ago and they all sucked equally bad"

What you people fail to realize is that the Android phones you tried a few years ago have not been running stagnant OS like iOS has for the past 3 years, they have been moving in leaps and bounds to match the new technology that they are housed in.

Saying that all Android phones are crap because of a bad experience in the past is like me saying that all HTC phones are crap because I had a bad experience with the HTC Touch Diamond running Windows 4+ years ago.

Things change. Tech changes. If you opinion/self education doesn't change to at least respect those facts, you will always come off sounding closed minded and your comments un-noteworthy.

Consider if you will, that whether you like it or not, OS aside, the iPhone5 is merely a refined product from Apple which has caught up to the already existing features provided by other mobile phone makers through the past year.

TheBuffather
Sep 16, 2012, 09:04 PM
*edit I deleted the original quote because i misquoted. I meant this response to be directed ad JBuff's post regarding having "a handful of Android devices a couple of years ago and they all sucked equally bad"

What you people fail to realize is that the Android phones you tried a few years ago have not been running stagnant OS like iOS has for the past 3 years, they have been moving in leaps and bounds to match the new technology that they are housed in.

Saying that all Android phones are crap because of a bad experience in the past is like me saying that all HTC phones are crap because I had a bad experience with the HTC Touch Diamond running Windows 4+ years ago.

Things change. Tech changes. If you opinion/self education doesn't change to at least respect those facts, you will always come off sounding closed minded and your comments un-noteworthy.

Consider if you will, that whether you like it or not, OS aside, the iPhone5 is merely a refined product from Apple which has caught up to the already existing features provided by other mobile phone makers through the past year.


As someone who has used Android phones starting years ago, and up until now due to my job, there's no doubt in my mind that Android is still a vastly inferior operating system to iOS. Regardless of specs/features/etc, iOS is simply much smoother and easier to use for myself, and clearly a plethora of other people. I don't thin there should be an iOS vs Android war, really, because each person should make up their own mind after trying each OS, as I did.

Mrg02d
Sep 16, 2012, 10:07 PM
Why are there so many iPhone nazis in a forum dedicated to alternatives to iPhones? WTH are you trying to prove? That you are superior and that your choice to not even keep your 4s for a year isn't a mistake? Here you are, drinking koolaid and making excuses for apple holding back. When they add those old features to the 5s, you'll drink it right up. No wonder you get called isheep!? Baaaaaaad! Very baaaaaddd!

Oh, and before you ask why androids would be on this forum, I have an iPad 3 and many of us androids have iPads. We know it's the best tablet out, so there is proof we are not as indoctrinated as you poor souls. When we see a good thing, we buy it.

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As someone who has used Android phones starting years ago, and up until now due to my job, there's no doubt in my mind that Android is still a vastly inferior operating system to iOS. Regardless of specs/features/etc, iOS is simply much smoother and easier to use for myself, and clearly a plethora of other people. I don't thin there should be an iOS vs Android war, really, because each person should make up their own mind after trying each OS, as I did.

You obviously haven't tried jellybean. I have cm10 running on my gs3 and compared it directly to iOS via iPad 3 and 4s. Gs3 with JB equals both iPad and iPhone with screen transition smoothness and snappiness.

Gs3 with JB exceeds iPhone 4s with web browsing smoothness but equals ipad3.

Apps open just as fast if nt faster with JB as they do iOS.

Maps on gs3 is much faster than iOS. GPS locks so much faster on my gs3. Camera is just as fast, but many more options. Pictures look identical from both gs3, iPad, and iPhone.

The only place gs3 loses is build quality. Maybe the iPhone 5 WILL be faster and smoother? web browsing sucked on my 4s...

WordMasterRice
Sep 16, 2012, 10:32 PM
Why are there so many iPhone nazis in a forum dedicated to alternatives to iPhones? WTH are you trying to prove? That you are superior and that your choice to not even keep your 4s for a year isn't a mistake? Here you are, drinking koolaid and making excuses for apple holding back. When they add those old features to the 5s, you'll drink it right up. No wonder you get called isheep!? Baaaaaaad! Very baaaaaddd!

Oh, and before you ask why androids would be on this forum, I have an iPad 3 and many of us androids have iPads. We know it's the best tablet out, so there is proof we are not as indoctrinated as you poor souls. When we see a good thing, we buy it.

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You obviously haven't tried jellybean. I have cm10 running on my gs3 and compared it directly to iOS via iPad 3 and 4s. Gs3 with JB equals both iPad and iPhone with screen transition smoothness and snappiness.

Gs3 with JB exceeds iPhone 4s with web browsing smoothness but equals ipad3.

Apps open just as fast if nt faster with JB as they do iOS.

Maps on gs3 is much faster than iOS. GPS locks so much faster on my gs3. Camera is just as fast, but many more options. Pictures look identical from both gs3, iPad, and iPhone.

The only place gs3 loses is build quality. Maybe the iPhone 5 WILL be faster and smoother? web browsing sucked on my 4s...

Jellybean does make it smooth, but that still doesn't change the fact that there aren't too many apps in the Play Store that you would want to open smoothly with those nice transitions.

By the way, how's the smoothness of pitch zooming in the Gmail app? You do have that right?

BluePhoenixRa
Sep 16, 2012, 11:18 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

People are waaaay to invested in this whole iphone vs android thing.

It's not just a phone..

It's a way of life!

/sarcasm

But hey, it's nice to discuss the differences between different phone and how this one device affects our lives in so many ways. That is what MacRumors is for right ~ And it's even more amazing the expectations each company faces every day to keep their consumer base.
Be it Android or Apple.

Mrg02d
Sep 17, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jellybean does make it smooth, but that still doesn't change the fact that there aren't too many apps in the Play Store that you would want to open smoothly with those nice transitions.

By the way, how's the smoothness of pitch zooming in the Gmail app? You do have that right?

I dont use Gmail. I use AOL mail. I also dont have facebook. I work and go outside as well as cherish privacy. I DO know that most of my apps are smooth as well.

Yea, some apps suck, but same with iOS. (I have an Ipad 3).

EDIT: Excuse my rambling, incoherent chat...Im super tired. :-(

mcman77
Sep 17, 2012, 03:19 PM
As someone who has used Android phones starting years ago, and up until now due to my job, there's no doubt in my mind that Android is still a vastly inferior operating system to iOS. Regardless of specs/features/etc, iOS is simply much smoother and easier to use for myself, and clearly a plethora of other people. I don't thin there should be an iOS vs Android war, really, because each person should make up their own mind after trying each OS, as I did.

can you please elaborate on inferiority? What does a superior operating system actually offer?

Ok you said smoothness. Point taken.

Ease of use?... This is not valid as a complex system would seem superior to me. What other points make iOS superior?

Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested.

b24pgg
Sep 18, 2012, 11:10 AM
I get that same WOW feeling when I **** a new girl.
So...never?

turtle777
Sep 18, 2012, 07:46 PM
I really enjoyed the custom UI, LED notification, NFC, bigger screen, more memory, better battery life, I dig the biometric swipe, and jelly bean. I'm leaning more towards the custom UI than any feature. Yes my disappointment is from reading and watching the keynote, Im not sure if I need to test it in person.

Some of these I wouldn't care about too much (custom UI, LED notification).

NFC - meh, not for me. I even killed the chips in my credit cards so I must swipe.

More memory ? How that ? Both have 1GB of RAM (not counting user memory)

Bigger screen - wouldn't work for me. I have relatively small hands, I probably couldn't operate a 4.5" screen with one hand.

Better battery life - what's your source ? I don't think the Galaxy matches 10 hours of video playback and 8 hours of Web surfing over LTE.

Biometric swipe - what is this, Google can't find any meaningful references to "galaxy s3 biometric swipe"

Pluses of iPhone 5:
+ better camera
+ 15% lighter
+ 10% thinner
+ better screen (less reflection etc...)

-t