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gadget123
Sep 17, 2012, 06:48 AM
Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.



MuddyPaws1
Sep 17, 2012, 07:02 AM
Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.

The note series is a totally different device, for a totally different market, for a different use with a different user experience.

armoredsaint
Sep 17, 2012, 07:10 AM
wife has the charge (which is big and bulky, hard to fit into her pockets of dress clothes) and my parents have the SIII which is huge and awkward to carry. my dad often likes to carry stuff in his shirt pocket, but the SII is too big for that.

ugp
Sep 17, 2012, 07:13 AM
4" is about just the right size screen for a phone. I played around with a buddies phone that was 4.5" and it felt way to big to hold for a phone. It was awkward.

MuddyPaws1
Sep 17, 2012, 07:54 AM
wife has the charge (which is big and bulky, hard to fit into her pockets of dress clothes) and my parents have the SIII which is huge and awkward to carry. my dad often likes to carry stuff in his shirt pocket, but the SII is too big for that.

He must have pretty small pockets if it can't fit into his shirt pocket.

fins831
Sep 17, 2012, 07:57 AM
I was in Chipotle the other day waiting in line and this lady in front of me takes out a Note and has the smallest hands ever. She had to hold it with her left and peck letters with her index on right to text. Slowest text messaging, and it just looked so huge and unnecessary...

appswipe
Sep 17, 2012, 08:08 AM
Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.
By omitting every other Samsung phone out there then you are creating a very slanted (and pointless) argument.

lazard
Sep 17, 2012, 08:21 AM
Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.

comparing a phablet to a smartphone = comparing apples to oranges.

CallOfDuty
Sep 17, 2012, 08:37 AM
I was in Chipotle the other day waiting in line and this lady in front of me takes out a Note and has the smallest hands ever. She had to hold it with her left and peck letters with her index on right to text. Slowest text messaging, and it just looked so huge and unnecessary...

Totally agreed. There was once I had to take the public transport because my car had to go for its yearly servicing, and I could finally appreciate the one-handed use the iPhone allows us to do especially when you're standing up on the train. You can grab on a pole using one hand and use the other hand to text away.
They always say the bigger the screen, the better it is. But for me its not the case. I find that the iPhone's screen is extremely easy to type with. I can type extremely fast that my Android friends with Galaxy Notes can't even keep up. Not only that, I could still type decently fast with one hand.
Most of my friends admitted that they can't use their Galaxy Notes with only one hand and had to use 2 hands for almost anything.

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Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.

I agree totally. All Samsung is trying to do is to simply sell people bigger and bigger phones and claim that bigger is the way to go. They tried to make smaller phones with smaller screens a huge joke which don't make sense. I find that even with smaller screens it always fit anybody else. Even a guy with relatively big hands like mine can comfortably use the iPhone 4. Whereas if you make the screens bigger and bigger less and less people will find enjoyable to use it.

numbersyx
Sep 17, 2012, 08:38 AM
Matter of choice really. For some bigger phones work and for others they don't. I actually think the iPhone 5 is ideal for me. Friend of mine was looking at the website and said it was too small for him. We're both right....

Lyrical
Sep 17, 2012, 08:51 AM
Why do we have so many Samsung topics on the iPhone forum. Its ridiculous.

Chromie
Sep 17, 2012, 09:02 AM
The bigger screens on BOTH the HTC EVO 4G LTE and Samsung 3 is why I honestly jumped ship with Apple.

I was FINE with 4.3", but why did they have to keep going not only bigger, but WIDER? I have small hands. I was originally an HTC fan, but due to their horendous support and update cycle, I decided to go with Samsung, since they seem to be the ONLY reliable OEM that supports and updates their devices. Turns out, the S3 has an even bigger and wider screen than the HE4LTE. :(

beosound3200
Sep 17, 2012, 09:24 AM
samsung galaxy s - 4 inches

samsung galaxy s2 - 4.3 inches

samsung galaxy s3 - 4.8 inches

samsung galaxy s4 - 5 inches (http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28778-samsung-galaxy-s4-tipped-for-march-launch) :eek:

gadget123
Sep 17, 2012, 09:27 AM
comparing a phablet to a smartphone = comparing apples to oranges.

The Galaxy series gets bigger every year though. The Galaxy 3 is already massive.

mrmarts
Sep 17, 2012, 09:28 AM
The samsung would be the George Constanza of phones the iPhone still wins my pocket.

gadget123
Sep 17, 2012, 09:28 AM
samsung galaxy s - 4 inches

samsung galaxy s2 - 4.3 inches

samsung galaxy s3 - 4.8 inches

samsung galaxy s4 - 5 inches (http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28778-samsung-galaxy-s4-tipped-for-march-launch) :eek:

They should have kept the Samsung Pixon series of phones. The Wave series is also better.

appswipe
Sep 17, 2012, 09:35 AM
Why do we have so many Samsung topics on the iPhone forum. Its ridiculous.
Insecurity and Dissatisfaction

If someone REALLY loved everything about their phone then they wouldnt even be interested in what else is out there. (The same goes for finding a good woman)

onthecouchagain
Sep 17, 2012, 09:40 AM
Yeah. Samsung really needs to focus on better build materials instead of larger screens. It seems build material is a huge point of contention for a lot of people. Samsung is underestimating (or overestimating?) people's shallowness.

They're getting a bit out of control with the screen sizes. The Galaxy line should remain sub 5" while the Note can fill that 5"+ target.

andross77
Sep 17, 2012, 10:02 AM
Totally agreed. There was once I had to take the public transport because my car had to go for its yearly servicing, and I could finally appreciate the one-handed use the iPhone allows us to do especially when you're standing up on the train. You can grab on a pole using one hand and use the other hand to text away.
They always say the bigger the screen, the better it is. But for me its not the case. I find that the iPhone's screen is extremely easy to type with. I can type extremely fast that my Android friends with Galaxy Notes can't even keep up. Not only that, I could still type decently fast with one hand.
Most of my friends admitted that they can't use their Galaxy Notes with only one hand and had to use 2 hands for almost anything.

This argument is so old and tired and not true. I came from a 4S and now have the SGS3. I can message/email faster on my android than i could ever on my 4S. Why? Simply, Swype. And that is referring to 2 handed use. If we go to 1 handed use I can message/email about 10 times as fast as on my iphone 4S. Why? Again, Swype.

Listen people, I have GIRLISH SMALL HANDS for a dude and I can reach the ENTIRE Swype keyboard with either thumb in one handed use. If I tried to message/email on my iphone 1 handed it would take FOREVER pecking with my one thumb.

Just please give the one handed use bit a break. Swype > iPhone keyboard and always will be. Haven't even mentioned Swiftkey if you hate swyping and want to peck keys. In that case, Swiftkey > iPhone keyboard.

CallOfDuty
Sep 17, 2012, 10:08 AM
This argument is so old and tired and not true. I came from a 4S and now have the SGS3. I can message/email faster on my android than i could ever on my 4S. Why? Simply, Swype. And that is referring to 2 handed use. If we go to 1 handed use I can message/email about 10 times as fast as on my iphone 4S. Why? Again, Swype.

Listen people, I have GIRLISH SMALL HANDS for a dude and I can reach the ENTIRE Swype keyboard with either thumb in one handed use. If I tried to message/email on my iphone 1 handed it would take FOREVER pecking with my one thumb.

Just please give the one handed use bit a break. Swype > iPhone keyboard and always will be. Haven't even mentioned Swiftkey if you hate swyping and want to peck keys. In that case, Swiftkey > iPhone keyboard.

Swype, I do agree, is a great alternative for large screens with larger keyboard. But besides from typing, what I'm generally addressing is the overally large UI/screen. You cant reach for many things near the top of the screen very well. If you get what I meant.

I've tried swype before, and honestly it was rather difficult to use (to me). I find it difficult to lift up my fingers whenever I wanted to end a word. And I meant really fast swyping.

andross77
Sep 17, 2012, 10:15 AM
Swype, I do agree, is a great alternative for large screens with larger keyboard. But besides from typing, what I'm generally addressing is the overally large UI/screen. You cant reach for many things near the top of the screen very well. If you get what I meant.

I've tried swype before, and honestly it was rather difficult to use (to me). I find it difficult to lift up my fingers whenever I wanted to end a word. And I meant really fast swyping.

i see. When i need to hit something in the top right corner, i just shift my palm underneath the phone and can reach it. but what saves me the most time is being able to write out emails almost as fast as i can type them on my computer (~50-60 wpm).

swyping is even faster if you have dry hands like myself. If you have sweaty hands or they get moist a lot then it can be a bit more difficult. But yeah, my hands are barely larger than my 5'5" hispanic wife's and I can use my SGS3 np. So i'm guessing there are about 10,000 people out there where the SGS is ACTUALLY too big for 1 hand use and about 50,000,000 people out there that just like to bitch about stuff they no nothing about and have no personal experience with :rolleyes:

CallOfDuty
Sep 17, 2012, 10:22 AM
i see. When i need to hit something in the top right corner, i just shift my palm underneath the phone and can reach it. but what saves me the most time is being able to write out emails almost as fast as i can type them on my computer (~50-60 wpm).

swyping is even faster if you have dry hands like myself. If you have sweaty hands or they get moist a lot then it can be a bit more difficult. But yeah, my hands are barely larger than my 5'5" hispanic wife's and I can use my SGS3 np. So i'm guessing there are about 10,000 people out there where the SGS is ACTUALLY too big for 1 hand use and about 50,000,000 people out there that just like to bitch about stuff they no nothing about and have no personal experience with :rolleyes:

Strangely I do have similarly cold, dry hands and palms. Which means I rarely do get fingerprints on my phone, if not little. Yep, I do agree- if you fingers are sticky, swype isn't a great alternative as you would have to swipe your fingers across the screen. And that's where matte screen protectors come into play. I personally do not have one, though .
But I just find it tiring and weird to have to lift up my fingers everytime I finish my word. I feel cumbersome when I do that. And that is with trying the Galaxy S. (Of course, experiences may change as it is almost a 2-3 year old phone)

And your numbers are strangely exaggerated, fyi :D . I know ALOT of people who complained about the big screen. The first moment they used it. Like , ''God the screen is big and nice but I can't even use it with one hand, how am I able to use it on the train or something?'' - Quoted by My wife.

One handed use is not a lame argument, but is something some people care but others don't. It generally depends on each individual .

wrkactjob
Sep 17, 2012, 10:22 AM
Apple seems obsessed with being able to use its phone with one hand, all this talk of being able to access any tab by stretching your thumb.

I always use two hands with my iPhone. One to hold it and the other to operate it. I guess if I only had one hand I would be grateful.

dejo
Sep 17, 2012, 10:24 AM
Why do we have so many Samsung topics on the iPhone forum. Its ridiculous.

Mod Note: Shouldn't be many at all. We are asking members to take such talk to the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" (http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=157) forum and are moving threads to that forum, if need be (such as this one). If you find a thread that you feel should be moved, we ask that you report the first post and let us know. Thanks.

OceanView
Sep 17, 2012, 10:41 AM
Life is about choices, one size does not fit all.

Technarchy
Sep 17, 2012, 10:55 AM
My Sprint GSII had a 4.5" screen and I thought it was too big.

Not quite obnoxious status, but still too large, so I "downgraded" to a 4.3" GSII on AT&T.

What I've realized is out of all the phones I've owned, in terms of screen size, I've been most satisfied with the Nexus S' 4" display, and the found the 4.3" Evo screen tolerable.

Anything beyond that is not for me.

MuddyPaws1
Sep 17, 2012, 11:03 AM
Apple seems obsessed with being able to use its phone with one hand, all this talk of being able to access any tab by stretching your thumb.

I always use two hands with my iPhone. One to hold it and the other to operate it. I guess if I only had one hand I would be grateful.

Not only that but comparing the note to the iPhone is pointless. It's not designed to be used with one thumb.

It's like comparing how much easier it is to drive a automatic transmission vehicle with one foot over a manual transmission.

linkgx1
Sep 17, 2012, 11:14 AM
My Sprint GSII had a 4.5" screen and I thought it was too big.

Not quite obnoxious status, but still too large, so I "downgraded" to a 4.3" GSII on AT&T.

What I've realized is out of all the phones I've owned, in terms of screen size, I've been most satisfied with the Nexus S' 4" display, and the found the 4.3" Evo screen tolerable.

Anything beyond that is not for me.

I would agree. I mean, I have big hands, but there's a limit. I love my Vibrant's screen size but think the GSIII is much too big.

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Life is about choices, one size does not fit all.

Not according to fan boys here

andross77
Sep 17, 2012, 11:22 AM
Strangely I do have similarly cold, dry hands and palms. Which means I rarely do get fingerprints on my phone, if not little. Yep, I do agree- if you fingers are sticky, swype isn't a great alternative as you would have to swipe your fingers across the screen. And that's where matte screen protectors come into play. I personally do not have one, though .
But I just find it tiring and weird to have to lift up my fingers everytime I finish my word. I feel cumbersome when I do that. And that is with trying the Galaxy S. (Of course, experiences may change as it is almost a 2-3 year old phone)

And your numbers are strangely exaggerated, fyi :D . I know ALOT of people who complained about the big screen. The first moment they used it. Like , ''God the screen is big and nice but I can't even use it with one hand, how am I able to use it on the train or something?'' - Quoted by My wife.

One handed use is not a lame argument, but is something some people care but others don't. It generally depends on each individual .

ok i guess i should get more specific and say the percentage of people complaining about the size of the SGS3 while ALSO having used it for more than 10 days is probably 10% or less. Most people pick something up in best buy, handle it for 30 seconds and are like OMGGTFOBBQ111111!

yeah... :)

Your hand/fingers adjust to the new size in a short period.

3bs
Sep 17, 2012, 11:36 AM
For people worried about not being able to use your phone one handed you can get a ThingSling. I use it on my S3 and it's great! I also use it so I don't drop my phone and break the screen again. http://www.thingsling.com/

I also used it on my 4S so it's not just for big phones. Some people might not like the way it'll look but how often are you actually looking at the back of the phone.

daveathall
Sep 17, 2012, 11:58 AM
Swype, I do agree, is a great alternative for large screens with larger keyboard. But besides from typing, what I'm generally addressing is the overally large UI/screen. You cant reach for many things near the top of the screen very well. If you get what I meant.

I've tried swype before, and honestly it was rather difficult to use (to me). I find it difficult to lift up my fingers whenever I wanted to end a word. And I meant really fast swyping.

I dont have large hands, when the keyboard reveals itself it is near the bottom of the screen, easily in reach of one handed operation, I would have trouble reaching an app if it was in the top left of the screen (I'm right handed) so I don't put any apps in that corner, if I needed to, I would put the least used of my apps there, or inconvenience myself greatly and use the other hand. Honestly, as far as I can see, this one handed operation is a non argument, how hard is it to use the other hand if needed?

ChazUK
Sep 17, 2012, 12:11 PM
The Galaxy series gets bigger every year though. The Galaxy 3 is already massive.

Some Galaxy Phones on sale today in the UK:
Galaxy Ace 2:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_2_i8160-4559.php
480 x 800 pixels, 3.8 inches (~246 ppi pixel density

Galaxy Y
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_y_s5360-4117.php
240 x 320 pixels, 3.0 inches (~133 ppi pixel density)

Galaxy S Advance
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9070_galaxy_s_advance-4469.php
480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)


The Galaxy series has a screen for every budget and size.

Dr McKay
Sep 17, 2012, 12:13 PM
4" is about just the right size screen for a phone. I played around with a buddies phone that was 4.5" and it felt way to big to hold for a phone. It was awkward.

The right size for your hands yes, I currently have a 4.3 inch phone and it still feels small in my hands, I played with my friends Galaxy Nexus with its 4.65 inch screen, and it felt perfect for my hands.

McCool71
Sep 17, 2012, 02:56 PM
Seems all Samsung want to do is sell you a bigger phone:

Galaxy Note -5.3"
Galaxy Note 2 - 5.5"
Galaxy Note 3 - I'm sure the rumour I seen was 6"2 inch screen??

It makes me appreciate the 4" screen and 3.5" of the older Iphones.

Even though the two flagship models (Note 2 and Galaxy S3) have 5.5" and 4.8" screens - which most people that use them really love, Samsung has several other Android-based phones with smaller screens for those who prefer that - from around 3" and upwards.

Choice, both in features, size and price is not a bad thing...

Personally I'm quite sure that a 4.8" iPhone 5 would sell by the boatloads if it launched alongside the 4" iPhone 5.

McCool71
Sep 17, 2012, 03:07 PM
Apple seems obsessed with being able to use its phone with one hand, all this talk of being able to access any tab by stretching your thumb.

I have been puzzled by this for the last couple of years. What do people do with the other hand that is so important?

I have always used two hands when doing things like typing on my cell phones - even way back the small monochrome LCD-screen Nokias and Philips phones with traditional keys in the late 90's. I have rarely - if ever - felt that I needed to use the other hand for something at the same time.

CallOfDuty
Sep 18, 2012, 06:59 AM
I dont have large hands, when the keyboard reveals itself it is near the bottom of the screen, easily in reach of one handed operation, I would have trouble reaching an app if it was in the top left of the screen (I'm right handed) so I don't put any apps in that corner, if I needed to, I would put the least used of my apps there, or inconvenience myself greatly and use the other hand. Honestly, as far as I can see, this one handed operation is a non argument, how hard is it to use the other hand if needed?

The keyboard is indeed reachable since it is at the bottom of the phone.
But I don't see why you as the end user should pay attention to little details just because of the added inconveniences. You shouldn't have to move apps you don't use to the top right left hand corner just because you can't reach it.
I think the Galaxy S3 is now the limit, and Samsung should simply stop marketing bigger screens and even worse mocking those of a smaller screen estate. The Galaxy S3 is the biggest screen I as a consumer would want to compromise. The Galaxy note is just way to big. I would admit that the Galaxy S2's screen in fact big but however still usable. However, all these can't be compared to the iPhone of course .
(THIS IS VERY SUBJECTIVE TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE)
I don't see why you should sacrifice convenience just for a bigger screen phone just to consume media. To me, if you really want to consume media on the go, at least the pocketable Nexus 7 or the Kindle Fire or even the iPad. Other than that, phones to me should be comfortable to hold and use.

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I would agree. I mean, I have big hands, but there's a limit. I love my Vibrant's screen size but think the GSIII is much too big.[COLOR="#808080"]

Totally agreed. The Galaxy S3's screen is simply too big. The note is an overkill. The S2's screen is still big at least usable. And the iPhone's screen is the best, but of course a bit smaller than I've wanted. But Apple addressed this with a 4 inch iPhone stretched vertically.

Calidude
Sep 18, 2012, 07:05 AM
What is wrong with everybody's hands in here? My 4.65 inch Nexus screen feels perfect to me. I can navigate it one-handedly and I always text with 2 hands anyway.

cwwilson
Sep 18, 2012, 08:38 AM
I happen to like my huge phone, goes perfect with my huge you-know-what.

Yes, I'm talking about my ego :p

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 09:27 AM
I think Samsung is in a great position to really excel. They've made the Galaxy line a secondary household name after the iPhone. Now it's time to really focus on two areas:

1) Keep improving the OS. You're on the right track.

2) And for the love of god, start using premium materials. It seems to be a huge point of contention for a lot of people. Samsung needs to admit that people are shallow and love things that look and feel good. Looks matter. Time to turn heads not with screen size, but with quality builds.

They could run away with it.

cynics
Sep 18, 2012, 10:50 AM
Swype, I do agree, is a great alternative for large screens with larger keyboard. But besides from typing, what I'm generally addressing is the overally large UI/screen. You cant reach for many things near the top of the screen very well. If you get what I meant.

I've tried swype before, and honestly it was rather difficult to use (to me). I find it difficult to lift up my fingers whenever I wanted to end a word. And I meant really fast swyping.

I rarely had this issue because I rarely needed to reach the top left of the screen on an android device. The back button is at the bottom.

In ios however I always need the upper left because that's where the back button resides in most apps. I seriously doubt I could use a beafy case with the iPhone 5 one handed. Even the 4S with my lifeproof case is a stretch.

As long as most everything is at the bottom the screen can be as big as my pocket can carry.