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iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 03:56 PM
Okay, so since getting an actual answer to my question in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1442706) and when I asked in others seems impossible, guess I'll make another one based off what I have. Do photos actually sync to iCloud? No, not photo stream or an iOS backup, I mean really backup to your iCloud account. Like to where I can login to my iCloud account after setting up my iPhone 5 as new and have my existing iPhone 4 be restored and the pictures in a "camera roll" folder and not deleted. Same question for contacts, will they all show up after I've signed into my iCloud account and even after my iPhone 4 has been restored? If yes to these two, I won't mind missing my messages too much and will setup my iPhone as a new.

Thanks, iParis.:apple:



dannyhex
Sep 17, 2012, 03:59 PM
no

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:04 PM
no

No to both of those?

LetMeBlastU
Sep 17, 2012, 04:05 PM
Okay, so since getting an actual answer to my question in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1442706) and when I asked in others seems impossible, guess I'll make another one based off what I have. Do photos actually sync to iCloud? No, not photo stream or an iOS backup, I mean really backup to your iCloud account. Like to where I can login to my iCloud account after setting up my iPhone 5 as new and have my existing iPhone 4 be restored and the pictures in a "camera roll" folder and not deleted. Same question for contacts, will they all show up after I've signed into my iCloud account and even after my iPhone 4 has been restored? If yes to these two, I won't mind missing my messages too much and will setup my iPhone as a new.

Thanks, iParis.:apple:

No for the photos i believe. But my contacts always come back with a restore from backup from iCloud. Hope this helps

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:07 PM
No for the photos i believe. But my contacts always come back with a restore from backup from iCloud. Hope this helps

When I restored from backup from iCloud my contacts and pictures came up, I know that happens. Though when you're setting up an iPhone for the first time or after a restore, login to your iCloud account, but *don't* restore from an iCloud backup, does it still pull your contacts?

Stetrain
Sep 17, 2012, 04:08 PM
Settings->iCloud->Storage & Backup

iCloud Backup:

Automatically back up your camera roll, accounts, documents, and settings when this iPhone is plugged in, locked, and connected to Wi-Fi.

If you go into "Manage Storage" on that page and choose your device, you can choose which things are backed up to iCloud, including the Camera Roll.

Remember that you only get 5GB for free to back up to, so if you have a lot of stuff in your Camera Roll you might have to go to a larger iCloud storage option or it won't be able to do the backup. That's why I have the Camera Roll option turned off on my phone.

youslippin
Sep 17, 2012, 04:08 PM
No for the photos i believe. But my contacts always come back with a restore from backup from iCloud. Hope this helps

Not true. You can 100% backup your camera roll to iCloud.

DravenGSX
Sep 17, 2012, 04:09 PM
Photos and contacts will both be restored from an iCloud backup.

snook911
Sep 17, 2012, 04:10 PM
Okay, so since getting an actual answer to my question in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1442706) and when I asked in others seems impossible, guess I'll make another one based off what I have. Do photos actually sync to iCloud? No, not photo stream or an iOS backup, I mean really backup to your iCloud account. Like to where I can login to my iCloud account after setting up my iPhone 5 as new and have my existing iPhone 4 be restored and the pictures in a "camera roll" folder and not deleted. Same question for contacts, will they all show up after I've signed into my iCloud account and even after my iPhone 4 has been restored? If yes to these two, I won't mind missing my messages too much and will setup my iPhone as a new.

Thanks, iParis.:apple:

You can choose to have your Photos(including videos) backup to icloud if you want but remember you only get 5GB of free space so for me with about 10GB of pictures and videos it is not possible to backup unless you pay for more storage.

youslippin
Sep 17, 2012, 04:10 PM
When I restored from backup from iCloud my contacts and pictures came up, I know that happens. Though when you're setting up an iPhone for the first time or after a restore, login to your iCloud account, but *don't* restore from an iCloud backup, does it still pull your contacts?

Yes, it still pulls your contacts without the restore

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:11 PM
Settings->iCloud->Storage & Backup

iCloud Backup:



If you go into "Manage Storage" on that page and choose your device, you can choose which things are backed up to iCloud, including the Camera Roll.

Photos and contacts will both be restored from an iCloud backup.

Sorry, but I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I do NOT want to restore from a backup. I want to setup as new because of how long I've been using that backup and how many times it's been jailbroken. I'm wondering if when I setup my iPhone 5 for the first time and choose to setup as new, if it will pull my contacts and/or pictures from iCloud.

andyp350
Sep 17, 2012, 04:13 PM
Contacts yes, photos no, only your photostream.

SCOfoshO
Sep 17, 2012, 04:13 PM
yeah I have been wondering this same question and have asked in other threads as well. I just got through syncing all my photos to my drop box account just in case. I believe my contacts are all synced to my RMBP so I am hoping those can be synced from there.

Also, my apps seem to all be on my computer as well, can't I just add the apps from there to my iPhone 5?

I will still have my iPhone 4, so will that make the process easier as far as syncing is concerned. I never really grasped the full concept of iCloud.

Stetrain
Sep 17, 2012, 04:13 PM
Sorry, but I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I do NOT want to restore from a backup. I want to setup as new because of how long I've been using that backup and how many times it's been jailbroken. I'm wondering if when I setup my iPhone 5 for the first time and choose to setup as new, if it will pull my contacts and/or pictures from iCloud.

It will not pull your camera roll in that case. The camera roll isn't stored in iCloud as a separate entity, only as the Photostream and as part of a backup.

If you want to set up as new your best bet is probably to pull your camera roll off on to a computer and load it back onto the new phone after you set it up.

youslippin
Sep 17, 2012, 04:14 PM
Contacts yes, photos no, only your photostream.

This isn't true, why do people seem to think that the photos can't be backed up to iCloud? You can 100% backup the camera roll to iCloud

snook911
Sep 17, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sorry, but I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I do NOT want to restore from a backup. I want to setup as new because of how long I've been using that backup and how many times it's been jailbroken. I'm wondering if when I setup my iPhone 5 for the first time and choose to setup as new, if it will pull my contacts and/or pictures from iCloud.


Once you set up icloud on the new phone everything you have saved in icloud should be downloaded to the new phone. i am not 100% sure about the pictures as i don't have mine in icloud.

LetMeBlastU
Sep 17, 2012, 04:17 PM
Not true. You can 100% backup your camera roll to iCloud.

Sweet. thanks for the info

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:17 PM
Yes, it still pulls your contacts without the restore

Contacts yes, photos no, only your photostream.

Thank you!

yeah I have been wondering this same question and have asked in other threads as well. I just got through syncing all my photos to my drop box account just in case. I believe my contacts are all synced to my RMBP so I am hoping those can be synced from there.

Also, my apps seem to all be on my computer as well, can't I just add the apps from there to my iPhone 5?

I will still have my iPhone 4, so will that make the process easier as far as syncing is concerned. I never really grasped the full concept of iCloud.

Another option for your apps is the "purchased" section of the App Store on your iPhone.

This isn't true, why do people seem to think that the photos can't be backed up to iCloud? You can 100% backup the camera roll to iCloud

You're thinking of full iOS backups. We're talking about data in your iCloud account.

dannyhex
Sep 17, 2012, 04:17 PM
No to both of those?

no to camera roll.

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:19 PM
If you want to set up as new your best bet is probably to pull your camera roll off on to a computer and load it back onto the new phone after you set it up.

So the good ol' fashion syncing of picture folders? Ahh, if I do that it'll bring me back to my iPod classic days.

swordfish5736
Sep 17, 2012, 04:20 PM
Sorry, but I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I do NOT want to restore from a backup. I want to setup as new because of how long I've been using that backup and how many times it's been jailbroken. I'm wondering if when I setup my iPhone 5 for the first time and choose to setup as new, if it will pull my contacts and/or pictures from iCloud.

It will pull contacts but not photos(not including photo stream) if you don't restore from a backup. If you've got a Mac just Mac an album with the photos you want to put back on the phone and sync that album via iTunes once you are setup. Or just let it sync all your photos with iTunes

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:23 PM
It will pull contacts but not photos(not including photo stream) if you don't restore from a backup. If you've got a Mac just Mac an album with the photos you want to put back on the phone and sync that album via iTunes once you are setup. Or just let it sync all your photos with iTunes

Grr. I might just end up doing that. I haven't synced photos in a while, are you still not able to deleted them from the device?

Sweet. thanks for the info
I think we came to the conclusion that the claim is wrong. Err, not wrong, but about a different subject.

swordfish5736
Sep 17, 2012, 04:39 PM
Thank you!



Another option for your apps is the "purchased" section of the App Store on your iPhone.



You're thinking of full iOS backups. We're talking about data in your iCloud account.

no to camera roll.


Go to settings->icloud->storage & backup->manage storage-> pick your device backup->look at backup options and you will see your camera roll is being backed up to icloud

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
Go to settings->icloud->storage & backup->manage storage-> pick your device backup->look at backup options and you will see your camera roll is being backed up to icloud

I'm preeetty sure those options are for iOS backups, not what a device can pull off iCloud when not restoring from backup.

tikitommy
Sep 17, 2012, 04:48 PM
I'm preeetty sure those options are for iOS backups, not what a device can pull off iCloud when not restoring from backup.

Right. The pictures are there from a backup, but are not accessible via a web browser.

Setting up as new on the phone will not bring back the photos. Setting up as new and using the same icloud account will sync back your contacts, notes, calendars, etc. If you click on the settings icon in iOS and go to icloud, those are the things that will sync back to the phone. But not your photoroll.

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Right. The pictures are there from a backup, but are not accessible via a web browser.

Setting up as new on the phone will not bring back the photos. Setting up as new and using the same icloud account will sync back your contacts, notes, calendars, etc. If you click on the settings icon in iOS and go to icloud, those are the things that will sync back to the phone. But not your photoroll.

Thank you! It's strange how hard it was for some users to understand what it was exactly I was asking. I wonder if there's software out there to do a custom backup or sorts. I know there's backup extraction software, but it tends to be a hassle, unorganized, and is more for recovering data from a backup.

swordfish5736
Sep 17, 2012, 05:20 PM
Right. The pictures are there from a backup, but are not accessible via a web browser.

Setting up as new on the phone will not bring back the photos. Setting up as new and using the same icloud account will sync back your contacts, notes, calendars, etc. If you click on the settings icon in iOS and go to icloud, those are the things that will sync back to the phone. But not your photoroll.


i am aware that you cannot individually sync the photos back without restoring from an icloud backup. You were stating that your camera roll was not backed up to icloud at all which isnt true.


Thank you! It's strange how hard it was for some users to understand what it was exactly I was asking. I wonder if there's software out there to do a custom backup or sorts. I know there's backup extraction software, but it tends to be a hassle, unorganized, and is more for recovering data from a backup.

It seems like it'd be easier to just sync them to iphoto and then either sync them all back to your phone via itunes or create an album.

iphoneclassic
Sep 17, 2012, 05:27 PM
Thank you! It's strange how hard it was for some users to understand what it was exactly I was asking. I wonder if there's software out there to do a custom backup or sorts. I know there's backup extraction software, but it tends to be a hassle, unorganized, and is more for recovering data from a backup.

If you have a MacBook, you can use iPhoto. This transfers photos and videos to your MacBook.

Other option I use is Iomega NAS device(ix2-200) with Iomega Link App. You can copy to and restore from your NAS device.

If you don't have either of those two use Simple Transfer App. You can transfer photos & videos to PC or other mobile device.

With 5GB iCloud is good enough for contacts,calendar and reminders and PhotoStream when you are on the road.

Unless Camera Roll is turned on in settings-iCloud - storage&backup - manage storage your iCloud backup won't pickup photos.

One more tip, if you have multiple e-mail accounts on iPhone with contacts turned on, your contacts are a mess. For some reason new contacts are distributed among all. It is better to enable contacts only on iCloud account.

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 05:48 PM
It seems like it'd be easier to just sync them to iphoto and then either sync them all back to your phone via itunes or create an album.

If you have a MacBook, you can use iPhoto. This transfers photos and videos to your MacBook.

One more tip, if you have multiple e-mail accounts on iPhone with contacts turned on, your contacts are a mess. For some reason new contacts are distributed among all. It is better to enable contacts only on iCloud account.

I think I'm going to end up syncing them to my MacBook and back. But WAIT. Isn't it technically possible to copy all the pictures, whether it be done on my iPhone or MacBook, to an email, send said email, then save them all to my camera roll?


If you don't have either of those two use Simple Transfer App. You can transfer photos & videos to PC or other mobile device.

Does that app let you copy them back into a "camera roll" folder? I'll look into that app, thanks!

swordfish5736
Sep 17, 2012, 06:01 PM
I think I'm going to end up syncing them to my MacBook and back. But WAIT. Isn't it technically possible to copy all the pictures, whether it be done on my iPhone or MacBook, to an email, send said email, then save them all to my camera roll?




Does that app let you copy them back into a "camera roll" folder? I'll look into that app, thanks!

there is an attachment limit. I think ios will only let you email up to 6 pictures at a time so if you've got alot it could take awhile.

you could always save them from photostream though that'd take awhile if its alot. When i did a clean install since i only wanted a few pictures this is what i did

iParis
Sep 17, 2012, 06:38 PM
there is an attachment limit. I think ios will only let you email up to 6 pictures at a time so if you've got alot it could take awhile.

you could always save them from photostream though that'd take awhile if its alot. When i did a clean install since i only wanted a few pictures this is what i did

While there is a limit of photos you can choose for emailing, there's no limit you can select for copying, which you can then paste into said email. I've done that before, but I don't really see copy and pasting 1700 photos then saving them an easy task.

When viewing photos from a Photoshared library is there a "save all" option or option to select more than once photo a time to be saved? If there's the latter and not a save all option I'll just select them all at once.

swordfish5736
Sep 17, 2012, 06:56 PM
While there is a limit of photos you can choose for emailing, there's no limit you can select for copying, which you can then paste into said email. I've done that before, but I don't really see copy and pasting 1700 photos then saving them an easy task.

When viewing photos from a Photoshared library is there a "save all" option or option to select more than once photo a time to be saved? If there's the latter and not a save all option I'll just select them all at once.

at least in iOS 6 i was just able to go into my photo stream tap edit then select multiple pictures(i went to 25 just now to make sure it didn't disappear) and there is a save button at the bottom. So it looks like that would work. Would still take some time though to select that many pictures. And doesn't photo stream only leave 30 days of photo's available?