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blizeH
Sep 18, 2012, 04:03 AM
I've had an iPhone ever since the 3G, and honestly couldn't see myself ever switching, but I am so utterly underwhelmed by the iPhone 5 I'm actually considering making the move to Android.

But I'm wondering, what will I miss?

+ The nice interface of iOS?
+ The relatively seamless syncing between my iPad and Apple TV?
+ Gaming, GameCenter and the App Store

And what I certainly won't miss:

- Lack of NFC
- General lack of innovation
- Very expensive storage options (600/~$970 for 32GB)
- Poor battery life
- Requiring a jailbreak for basic functionality
- Narrow screen
- Propitiatory connections
- Supporting a company that seems utterly unethical
- Nano sim requiring me to change provider, when I'm very happy right now

The problem for me, is the app store for me probably counters all of those negative points. Though I really wish it didn't - it'll be a nightmare re-buying so many apps for Android too - though if I don't jump now, I'll be locked in even further to the iOS ecosystem.



Calidude
Sep 18, 2012, 04:15 AM
I advise that you wait for the Galaxy Nexus 2 before jumping ship. Pure Android is always the way to start. People usually buy a HTC Sense or Samsung Touchwiz phone and freak out about how Android is terrible when really, that's not the experience you're supposed to have. Or, if you're a reasonable, intelligent person who does their due diligence and finds out what they're getting into, you can buy any phone you want and flash anything you want on it.

Also, a lot of the "open-minded" people who try Android balk and get upset when the OS doesn't hold their hand for them. You need to go in with guns blazing ready to explore what you can do with it and then you will be rewarded with a phone you can call your own. If you think a smartphone is supposed to babysit you like your mother instead of you using it as the useful tool that it is, you'll never appreciate Android.

Catdogchicken
Sep 18, 2012, 04:44 AM
I advise that you wait for the Galaxy Nexus 2 before jumping ship. Pure Android is always the way to start. People usually buy a HTC Sense or Samsung Touchwiz phone and freak out about how Android is terrible when really, that's not the experience you're supposed to have. Or, if you're a reasonable, intelligent person who does their due diligence and finds out what they're getting into, you can buy any phone you want and flash anything you want on it.

Also, a lot of the "open-minded" people who try Android balk and get upset when the OS doesn't hold their hand for them. You need to go in with guns blazing ready to explore what you can do with it and then you will be rewarded with a phone you can call your own. If you think a smartphone is supposed to babysit you like your mother instead of you using it as the useful tool that it is, you'll never appreciate Android.

Problem is on Android people are spoilt with choices, touchwiz, nova etc etc. But even touchwiz ui is better than iOS ui.

Wrathwitch
Sep 18, 2012, 05:05 AM
Well speaking as someone who had never owned an Android phone before, I really don't mind TouchWiz because I really have nothing to compare it to. I don't want to really have to flash ROMS etc.

So far the phone is working quite well.

However, I will suggest that you actually GO INTO the nearest Apple Store, and put your hands on the device. This new version may offer what you like.

Android play store does not compare to the App Store no matter what people tell you. Yes a majority of apps are free, but it comes with the advertising that Google requires.

blizeH
Sep 18, 2012, 08:14 AM
Thank you all so much for the responses, I'm tempted to wait until the Galaxy Nexus 2 is released then trying to get a hands on with both that and the iPhone 5, although I'm guessing that could be a while?

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 08:41 AM
Thank you all so much for the responses, I'm tempted to wait until the Galaxy Nexus 2 is released then trying to get a hands on with both that and the iPhone 5, although I'm guessing that could be a while?

Calidude is on the money.

Given the nature of Android, it's very possible to get a poor Android device. If you're in a hurry, I wouldn't consider anything but the S3 at the moment (maybe the new Droid Maxx/Razrs. Big maybe).

If you can wait, I'd certainly see what the Nexus 2012 brings. It's oddly mum at this time of the year. Usually, by this point, there are tons of leaks and rumors. In any case, it should be released November-ish, so more information is due to come soon.

Once the hysteria of the iPhone 5 launch is over, it'll be easier to get over the hype. There is a world to discover with stock Android. Good luck.

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 08:54 AM
what will I miss?



Honestly, when I made the move from the 4S to the Galaxy Nexus, it was the most liberating thing ever. The phone became so much more usable. People keep saying one of iOS' greatest strength is its simplicity. I think it's misleading. It's simple, but it's also extremely limiting, which oddly makes it less usable.

Best things:

-Alternative (ie. better) keyboards (SwiftyKey is mindblowing).
-Better mail experience (attachments, truly threaded messaging)
-Better browsing experience (Chrome rocks, larger screen)
-Easier access to contacts (direct dialing, direct texting... all this stuff is a blessing when you need to make a really quick call, or when you're driving, etc.)
-Notification light
-Felt SO GOOD to finally not have to rely on iTunes to manage my stuff. Drag and drop is so lovely, so simple.

And one of my favorites...

-Lock screen toggle: A real winner for usability. It was always a pain in the butt to have to input my lock screen code to the iPhone when I was at home. Now, I can toggle the lock screen on when I go out for the security, then toggle it off when I get home where no security is needed to immediately access my phone. It's really lovely. Ditto Sound profile toggles. It offers so much more flexibility than just Mute or no-Mute.


The things I missed from the 4S?

-More polished apps: Have to admit, things just looked more unified with iOS apps. Once you get over it though, it's not a big deal. Also, I was never bothered by the greater number of apps the App Store has over the Play Store. The big players are there, and that's all that matters.

-Camera: the Galaxy Nexus camera SUCKS. Plain and simple. If you're going with the S3 or waiting for the Nexus 2012, this shouldn't be an issue anymore though.

-To some extent, the status symbol of owning an iPhone. It's so shallow and stupid to admit, but you did feel like you were part of a more popular culture whenever you pulled out your phone. It's a love/hate thing with this. Personally, I like my humble and obscure Galaxy Nexus.

Honestly, that's about it.

blizeH
Sep 18, 2012, 09:04 AM
Thank you, I've tried some of the keyboards on my girlfriends San Francisco and was mostly unimpressed, though I like the one she's using now where it auto predicts various words. Already use Chrome on iOS so really happy with that, and Sparrow has been bought out by Gmail, so that's my mail covered too!

Easier access to contacts sounds great, yet another feature I need to jailbreak for to be able to do on mine. Such a basic, basic feature! The camera on the S3 looks good so yeah that is an option :) Really couldn't care less about the 'status' of owning an Apple product, half of my Facebook friends (not that I really use Facebook) own iPhones now and are all retards. If anything that's part of what makes me want to move away from iOS!

One thing I don't get is how people talk up drag and drop... I just don't see how that is any easier than being able to sync through iTunes?!

rmhop81
Sep 18, 2012, 09:05 AM
I've had an iPhone ever since the 3G, and honestly couldn't see myself ever switching, but I am so utterly underwhelmed by the iPhone 5 I'm actually considering making the move to Android.

But I'm wondering, what will I miss?

+ The nice interface of iOS?
+ The relatively seamless syncing between my iPad and Apple TV?
+ Gaming, GameCenter and the App Store

And what I certainly won't miss:

- Lack of NFC
- General lack of innovation
- Very expensive storage options (600/~$970 for 32GB)
- Poor battery life
- Requiring a jailbreak for basic functionality
- Narrow screen
- Propitiatory connections
- Supporting a company that seems utterly unethical
- Nano sim requiring me to change provider, when I'm very happy right now

The problem for me, is the app store for me probably counters all of those negative points. Though I really wish it didn't - it'll be a nightmare re-buying so many apps for Android too - though if I don't jump now, I'll be locked in even further to the iOS ecosystem.
So you own an iPad and AppleTV as well right?

How will you be jumping ship if you still have those devices? What are you going to do when Apple starts allowing Apps on the AppleTV?

So you will continue to buy apps on your iPad and separate apps on your android? How are you really letting go of the Apple ecosystem I don't get it?

Also, I didn't realize that Android's had even decent battery life.

Try switching, but you will see the overall experience is not the same as Apple. I've tried it a couple times myself. Oh wow this app i found will be so cool on my phone. OH my device isn't supported? I had many run in's like that where an app is available on the store, but my new device isn't supported yet.

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Thank you, I've tried some of the keyboards on my girlfriends San Francisco and was mostly unimpressed, though I like the one she's using now where it auto predicts various words. Already use Chrome on iOS so really happy with that, and Sparrow has been bought out by Gmail, so that's my mail covered too!

Easier access to contacts sounds great, yet another feature I need to jailbreak for to be able to do on mine. Such a basic, basic feature! The camera on the S3 looks good so yeah that is an option :) Really couldn't care less about the 'status' of owning an Apple product, half of my Facebook friends (not that I really use Facebook) own iPhones now and are all retards. If anything that's part of what makes me want to move away from iOS!

One thing I don't get is how people talk up drag and drop... I just don't see how that is any easier than being able to sync through iTunes?!

you want to move away, but you are calling them retards? lol

Yet, you are friends with them right? interesting!

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 09:09 AM
One thing I don't get is how people talk up drag and drop... I just don't see how that is any easier than being able to sync through iTunes?!

Drag and drop simply offers more nuance control. You can organize things just the way you want. Whereas iTunes, to be simple, makes you either sync everything, or sync nothing. If you want to get nuance with iTunes, it's a pain to unsync everything, then only checklist the things you want to sync. But if you want only a few songs from a band, and not the whole band, you have to uncheck the band, but check the individual songs.

To me, that's overly complicated. Whereas in Drag and Drop, you literally just highlight the songs you want from iTunes (or your computer's folder), and drag it over.

Prototypical
Sep 18, 2012, 09:13 AM
Or, if you're a reasonable, intelligent person who does their due diligence and finds out what they're getting into, you can buy any phone you want and flash anything you want on it.

Or, you can be a reasonable, intelligent person that simply doesn't have that option due to employer BYOD restrictions. I'm not risking my job over rooting and flashing, period. Therefore I have to compare stock vs. stock, and Android doesn't always come out on top in those cases.

I think Android has the potential to be so much more than iOS. I don't think it's an automatic, given fact though.

Some of the complaints about iOS I don't fully understand, though...

Easy access to contacts? Isn't that what "favorites" is for? I can dial my wife in two taps, or none if I use Siri.

Lack of NFC? I suppose in larger metros (and I'd guess the OP is from the UK based on his currency) it's prevalent, but it's virtually non-existent around here. Why spend money on a technology that won't be "big" until the next round of phones (or the round after that) are out? Having "specs" for the sake of having them is just silly.

Bad battery life? If you think the iPhone is bad, you're in for a rude awakening on Android. My Droid was TERRIBLE on battery life. My wife's current Droid3 is horrendous. My buddy's EVO 4G is dead in a matter of hours. You have to be VERY careful about what Android phone you buy to get decent life out of one. My 4S is dramatically better on battery life than my Droid was.

Supporting a company that is unethical? Um, wat? If this is about Foxconn, you probably shouldn't buy any smart phone. Or most electronics, for that matter. Or clothes. or toys. Chinese sweat shops make 90% of what we buy any more. And if this is about Apple's legal battles, there isn't anything unethical about defending legal patents. Business is business. I think Apple opened Pandora's box with the Samsung fight, but whatever... it's their right to do so. And since Apple won, they obviously have a reason to do so.

Most of the other negatives towards iOS are spot on though. All of the major ecosystems have pros and cons.

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 09:39 AM
Some of the complaints about iOS I don't fully understand, though...

Easy access to contacts? Isn't that what "favorites" is for? I can dial my wife in two taps, or none if I use Siri.


Bad battery life? If you think the iPhone is bad, you're in for a rude awakening on Android. My Droid was TERRIBLE on battery life. My wife's current Droid3 is horrendous. My buddy's EVO 4G is dead in a matter of hours. You have to be VERY careful about what Android phone you buy to get decent life out of one. My 4S is dramatically better on battery life than my Droid was.



1) Never argued it's hard to dial people on iOS. It's just easier and faster on Android. Plus, you can do direct texting too. It's been a while since my 4S, but I don't remember that feature. SIRI never got the name right when I was driving. It was frustrating. Maybe you've had better luck.

2) You have it on the money. Given the nature of Android's business model, it's very possible to get a very poor Android device with horrible batteries. This is where research goes a long way. For what it's worth, my GN on HSPA+ gets easily 20+ hours of batt life. It's too early in the day to take a screen cap to prove my point, so oh well.

Carouser
Sep 18, 2012, 10:22 AM
General lack of innovation

If there was a product that did exactly what you needed it to, but wasn't 'innovative' would that be a problem?

If said product cost $100, how much more would you pay for a product which was otherwise identical but also 'innovative'?

I've used all kinds of devices, and I've found myself needing them to do something specific which they didn't do, or didn't do well. However, I've never used a device and said "Why isn't this thing more innovative!? Gaaagh!". Have you?

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 10:24 AM
If there was a product that did exactly what you needed it to, but wasn't 'innovative' would that be a problem?


Yes, if the company responsible is constantly being touted as a constant innovator that pushes the technological frontier.

You seem to be taking people's posts out of context.

Mrg02d
Sep 18, 2012, 10:31 AM
There is no sense using past android devices to sway him away from android. The GS3 is king of android right now. It will have JB update soon enough officially. If you want to show some balls though, you could root it and install cm10. This will give you th pure JB experience. The gs3 with JB is just as smooth as my 4s was and as smooth as my ipad3 is.

If rooting is completely out of the Q, the wait for the nexus 2 like suggested earlier.

Also, swiftkey 3 is awesome for android.

hajime
Sep 18, 2012, 10:43 AM
My work place uses Outlook for calendar/appointments. I heard that iPhone does a good job. I bought the Galaxy Note 2.5 months ago and consider to move to iPhone 5 just because of Outlook syncing. Is this worth? Any good app for the Galaxy Note that allows one to sync the device with Outlook perfectly? Thanks.

dmelgar
Sep 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
I've had an iPhone ever since the 3G, and honestly couldn't see myself ever switching, but I am so utterly underwhelmed by the iPhone 5 I'm actually considering making the move to Android.

But I'm wondering, what will I miss?

+ The nice interface of iOS?
+ The relatively seamless syncing between my iPad and Apple TV?
+ Gaming, GameCenter and the App Store

And what I certainly won't miss:

- Lack of NFC
- General lack of innovation
If innovation means copying Apple, don't get a Samsung.
Otherwise what tremendous innovation do you think you see in the Android world? They're all iPhone style bricks with glass touchscreen running an OS that pretty much looks like iOS.
How about Samsungs great new innovative gestures. How about "tilt to zoom". Whoa. Thats a great innovation. Of course the way to zoom is to tilt the phone.
How about double tap the top of the phone to scroll to the top on a couple of apps.
How about shake to update. That's real intuitive.
Maybe innovation means half heartedly trying all sorts of questionably useful additions so you can list them in an ad, not bother getting them to work well in practice. But hey, you can see a big list. Nice lip stick, but no useful function.

- Poor battery life

Android typically has worse battery life. The architecture means that YOU have to manage runaway processes, memory utilization, power utilization. The S3 provides nice tools to help YOU manage that. iOS manages that for you by being very strict with what apps are allowed to do. Oh yea, but I forget, being strict is so limiting.

- Requiring a jailbreak for basic functionality
Very biased statement. "Basic" functionality. I guess you need to jailbreak to make a phone call or surf the web, or run the hundreds of thousands of apps.

How about the need to root your Android phone for "basic" functionality. Such as uninstalling tons of preinstalled bloatware you can't uninstall and didn't want.

- Supporting a company that seems utterly unethical
Samsung's CEO is a convicted criminal that was pardoned. They account for a large percentage of the South Korean GDP. They have grown their cell phone business by imitating others. What exactly is unethical behavior?
http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3028/samsung-power-corruption-and-lies/


What you can look forward to is:

Lack of support. Once you bought your phone, good luck getting updates and fixes. Unless you manage it yourself of course. You can root (ie jailbreak) and put your own ROMs on. General Android attitude is if you have a problem, buy a new phone. Samsung Galaxy S4 rumors already starting talking about February.
Free for all Google "Play" store. Need to put your guard up for malware laden apps. Watch out for apps that ask for too many permissions on your phones, such as who you're calling, your contacts, etc. Enjoy apps so focused on advertising that they make themselves hard to use. WeatherBug playing video ads you can't get out of.


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Android play store does not compare to the App Store no matter what people tell you. Yes a majority of apps are free, but it comes with the advertising that Google requires.

Google does not "require" advertising. Have no idea what you're referring to. Google doesn't care what you put in your app. Its not a walled garden like the appstore.

blizeH
Sep 18, 2012, 11:53 AM
Thank you again for your responses - dme, you raise some very interesting points, thank you. I guess Samsung aren't some amazing perfect company like some people make them out to be, although there are still some big plus points for having the S3.

In particular I've just looked up SwiftKey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQT-o8ch0o

God damn, I'd absolutely love to get something like that on my iPhone!

I am still leaning iPhone by the way. I have so many god damn apps on here, and love that any apps I buy work both with my iPhone and iPad. iCloud syncing is another huge benefit too... but there's still something really appealing about the S3 (or the Xperia V, or the Optimus G...)

3bs
Sep 18, 2012, 12:03 PM
Thank you again for your responses - dme, you raise some very interesting points, thank you. I guess Samsung aren't some amazing perfect company like some people make them out to be, although there are still some big plus points for having the S3.

In particular I've just looked up SwiftKey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQT-o8ch0o

God damn, I'd absolutely love to get something like that on my iPhone!

I am still leaning iPhone by the way. I have so many god damn apps on here, and love that any apps I buy work both with my iPhone and iPad. iCloud syncing is another huge benefit too... but there's still something really appealing about the S3 (or the Xperia V, or the Optimus G...)

SwiftKey is amazing! The screen on my GS3 broke so while I was waiting for my replacement I had to go back to my 4S and it was torture having to use the keyboard on it! Swype is also surprisingly very accurate but sometimes I get bored of swiping across the screen so I go back to SwiftKey.

dmelgar
Sep 18, 2012, 12:07 PM
In particular I've just looked up SwiftKey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQT-o8ch0o

God damn, I'd absolutely love to get something like that on my iPhone!

Just tried it on my Android phone. It does work pretty darn well.
When I had my iPhone, I could type very fast. I've never been able to do that through multiple Android phones. I know part of the problem was/is inaccurate touch sensors, but I think software is a big part of it too. In general the iOS keyboard worked better for me. I'll get to try it again Friday when my iPhone 5 arrives.

Swiftkey is working well. Thanks for the tip. I can type as fast as my fingers will let me. Text is total garbage, but it fixes it and got everything right except "iOS". I could even use something like that on the Mac.

nuckinfutz
Sep 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
Thank you again for your responses - dme, you raise some very interesting points, thank you. I guess Samsung aren't some amazing perfect company like some people make them out to be, although there are still some big plus points for having the S3.

In particular I've just looked up SwiftKey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQT-o8ch0o

God damn, I'd absolutely love to get something like that on my iPhone!

I am still leaning iPhone by the way. I have so many god damn apps on here, and love that any apps I buy work both with my iPhone and iPad. iCloud syncing is another huge benefit too... but there's still something really appealing about the S3 (or the Xperia V, or the Optimus G...)

Dude. You're really in a haze. You've spent too much time on here having people tell you that Android is good and that you need gimmicks Swiftkey.

I can dictate into an iPhone a paragraph of text much faster than Swittkeys or Swype.

NFC ...are you really stressing over a feature that you "may" use a couple times a month. I find Square to be superior to NFC. It really sounds like people are afraid that NFC is going to take off and their phone won't have it. That's not likely in the next couple of years. Square is doing fine without NFC and so will others like Paypal, Verisign and more.

Other than ridiculously large phones there's little that is in Android that's going to be better than an iPhone 5. There performance is insane, the display is going to be punchy and longer and the camera is really fast.

You can go Android if you want but It doesn't really sound like your problem is OS related.

b24pgg
Sep 18, 2012, 12:28 PM
If innovation means copying Apple, don't get a Samsung.
dme, you raise some very interesting points, thank you.
I have no vested interest in the decision you make, but I think it's important to note that a lot of what dmelgar said is untrue, or at the very least a gross misrepresentation of the truth.


Whether Samsung copied Apple or vice versa shouldn't really be of any concern to you as a consumer. Both companies have lost patent cases to each other, for example:

Apple Loses Patent Lawsuit Against Samsung in Japan (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-31/apple-loses-japan-patent-lawsuit-against-samsung-over-devices.html)


Battery life on Android can't be compared across different devices and different manufacturers. Android is an operating system used on a multitude of different hardware configurations, and battery life can vary immensely based on processor speed, screen brightness/technology, data/background app usage, battery mAh, etc. To say that "Android battery life is poor" just makes no sense. Having said that, SGS3 battery life is amazing.


dmelgar suggested that the freedom that Android allows for background apps and power management is somehow a disadvantage; I wholeheartedly disagree. As Benjamin Franklin once said, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Sure, a lot of people are perfectly happy with the iPhone. But once you've truly experienced Android and the freedom it provides, I just can't imagine why anyone would want to go back. A lot of times people try to list the things you can do with Android that you can't do with iOS, but the thing is that the freedom of Android would make that list nearly endless. There are so many little nuances that just aren't possible with the iPhone. Here is a perfect example (http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/zs1wu/how_do_you_automate_your_phone_and_which_tools_do/c67bew9) of someone who has customized his Android device into something tailored precisely for him.


Widgets. The basic iOS UI is essentially an app drawer - pages and pages of app icons. Android's UI is whatever you want it to be. Put toggles for WiFi/brightness/GPS on your home screen. Put a news widget that cycles through headlines. Add a widget that shows your most recent email or social network status updates. Add a photo frame that does a slideshow of your favorite photos (and these were things you could do on Android two years ago - I don't even know what all kinds of widgets exist today.)


Think you'll see too many ads? No problem. Download AdAway (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway) - problem solved. Something like this would NEVER be allowed in the Apple App Store.

I know change isn't always easy, especially when you've gotten comfortable with what you have. But if you decide to try Android, my guess is that a few months from now you'll wonder why you never made the switch sooner.

The Robot Cow
Sep 18, 2012, 12:31 PM
Imo i say the Nexus is THE BEST android phone out there. Its always ahead of the other android devices with the latest android os version. You could try out a galaxy nexus straight from google for $350 unlocked and no contract for a gsm network.

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa&feature=device-featured#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDIwMiwibnVsbC1mZWF0dXJlZF9kZXZpY2VzX1VTX18xX3Byb21vXzEzNDc2OTA0NTIyOTciXQ..

But within the next couple months there will be a major change for the nexus. There will be multiple nexus' instead of just one.

Just give it a try and see which one you like better.

dmelgar
Sep 18, 2012, 12:36 PM
I have no vested interest in the decision you make, but I think it's important to note that a lot of what dmelgar said is untrue, or at the very least a gross misrepresentation of the truth.

If you want to have an intelligent discussion, don't label what other people say as "untrue" as in lying unless you have concrete facts to back it up.
You counter with opinions.

BTW, Adaway requires a rooted phone. I'm sure you can accomplish the same with a jailbroken iPhone.

b24pgg
Sep 18, 2012, 12:39 PM
NFC ...are you really stressing over a feature that you "may" use a couple times a month. I find Square to be superior to NFC. It really sounds like people are afraid that NFC is going to take off and their phone won't have it. That's not likely in the next couple of years. Square is doing fine without NFC and so will others like Paypal, Verisign and more.
NFC has SO many more applications than just payment processing. Get on eBay and buy some NFC stickers. Put them in some of your frequently visited spots (car/bike/office/bedside table/whatever) and you can create automated tasks that are done when you touch the tag.

Having said that, maybe it's just because I'm in a big city but most stores I visit now have NFC capability on their credit card machines. It really makes absolutely no sense to me why Apple didn't include it in the iPhone 5.

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don't label what other people say as "untrue" as in lying unless you have concrete facts to back it up.
My entire post backed it up. OP can make of it what he wants.
Adaway requires a rooted phone.
So?

Prototypical
Sep 18, 2012, 12:46 PM
Imo i say the Nexus is THE BEST android phone out there. Its always ahead of the other android devices with the latest android os version. You could try out a galaxy nexus straight from google for $350 unlocked and no contract for a gsm network.

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa&feature=device-featured#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDIwMiwibnVsbC1mZWF0dXJlZF9kZXZpY2VzX1VTX18xX3Byb21vXzEzNDc2OTA0NTIyOTciXQ..

But within the next couple months there will be a major change for the nexus. There will be multiple nexus' instead of just one.

Just give it a try and see which one you like better.

It's unfortunate that the Google Play Nexus is GSM only, because that's a hell of a deal for an unlocked Nexus device, BRAND NEW. Guess Verizon and Sprint customers are SOL.

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 12:47 PM
I can dictate into an iPhone a paragraph of text much faster than Swittkeys or Swype.




Dictation is quite unreliable. Mainly because it waits for you to finish what you're saying before compiling the sentences. So if what you're dictating gets long, the chance of errors and missed words become higher and higher. I've had instances where multiple words that were supposed to be back to back were left out.

Dictation on Android is the opposite. It writes it out as you speak, and so when you see a mistake, you can stop right away. But the best thing is that it hardly makes mistakes anyway. It's truly a superior dictation experience.

Maybe iOS 6 gets it better.

nuckinfutz
Sep 18, 2012, 12:51 PM
NFC has SO many more applications than just payment processing. Get on eBay and buy some NFC stickers. Put them in some of your frequently visited spots (car/bike/office/bedside table/whatever) and you can create automated tasks that are done when you touch the tag.

Having said that, maybe it's just because I'm in a big city but most stores I visit now have NFC capability on their credit card machines. It really makes absolutely no sense to me why Apple didn't include it in the iPhone 5.[COLOR="#808080"]



Schiller said that NFC is a solution in search of a problem. While NFC stickers sound great they don't seem to anything that location based triggers couldn't do. I've been asking for location based profiles for a while now in the OS (when I get home change certain configurations). It would be easy to accomplish without something like NFC but Apple doesn't want to go there yet.

3bs
Sep 18, 2012, 12:53 PM
It's unfortunate that the Google Play Nexus is GSM only, because that's a hell of a deal for an unlocked Nexus device, BRAND NEW. Guess Verizon and Sprint customers are SOL.

And international customers :(

b24pgg
Sep 18, 2012, 01:04 PM
While NFC stickers sound great they don't seem to anything that location based triggers couldn't do.
How do you do location based triggers in a motor vehicle?

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 01:06 PM
How do you do location based triggers in a motor vehicle?

+1

Good to see you posting again, SGMD1.

cynics
Sep 18, 2012, 01:09 PM
Schiller said that NFC is a solution in search of a problem. While NFC stickers sound great they don't seem to anything that location based triggers couldn't do. I've been asking for location based profiles for a while now in the OS (when I get home change certain configurations). It would be easy to accomplish without something like NFC but Apple doesn't want to go there yet.

Triggers are fine and I enjoy them too but I can think of three places in my house is want a different trigger. GPS is no where near accurate enough (esp. Indoors) for it to work properly.

Plus the biggest trigger I want is in my car. Not my drive way or a friends car etc etc.

Keep in mind Android users have apps that use location based triggers for quite sometime now. It work but it's somewhat generic. Regardless I wish my iPhone had either or both not neither.

I didn't read anything about it in iOS 6 so I'm assuming that we have a very long wait.

snow blind
Sep 18, 2012, 01:11 PM
I've been asking for location based profiles for a while now in the OS (when I get home change certain configurations). It would be easy to accomplish without something like NFC but Apple doesn't want to go there yet. Excellent idea! I've was thinking of a slightly similar function but using NFC. Unlocking your car with your phone... its home screen automatically opens up a folder with music and map apps... or a "sync to car" button pops up allowing the quick option to pair to the vehicles entertainment/nav system. I like the location idea a LOT... now you made me sad realizing how simple it would be but how Apple will never (probably) do it.:(

GoCubsGo
Sep 18, 2012, 01:14 PM
Of course you should buy what you want but really? You're underwhelmed with a product no one in the general population can hold yet? That's a bit hasty.

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 01:17 PM
Of course you should buy what you want but really? You're underwhelmed with a product no one in the general population can hold yet? That's a bit hasty.

Not really. Sure, there are obviously some things we won't know until it's in hand (ergonomics, feel, etc.) but it's also safe to say we know quite a lot about the phone already. Certainly enough to make a decently informed opinion.

Let's face it... there aren't many surprises with the iPhone and iOS anymore (not saying that's a bad thing per se).

The Robot Cow
Sep 18, 2012, 01:43 PM
It's unfortunate that the Google Play Nexus is GSM only, because that's a hell of a deal for an unlocked Nexus device, BRAND NEW. Guess Verizon and Sprint customers are SOL.

Tell me about it, my droid 2 just crapped out on me and i only had a best buy credit card and could only buy a new phone at full retail -_-"

munkery
Sep 18, 2012, 01:57 PM
Over 50% of Android devices are vulnerable to malware due to known but unpatched vulnerabilities.

This is a conservative estimate.

https://blog.duosecurity.com/2012/09/early-results-from-x-ray-over-50-of-android-devices-are-vulnerable/

tech4all
Sep 18, 2012, 03:30 PM
-Camera: the Galaxy Nexus camera SUCKS. Plain and simple. If you're going with the S3 or waiting for the Nexus 2012, this shouldn't be an issue anymore though. this. Personally, I like my humble and obscure Galaxy Nexus.

Curious as to why you'd think that? For me its great. Yea images can be noisy in low light and the lens could be wider. But for a cell phone can I think its quite nice. Course its no SLR.

Not really. Sure, there are obviously some things we won't know until it's in hand (ergonomics, feel, etc.) but it's also safe to say we know quite a lot about the phone already. Certainly enough to make a decently informed opinion.

Let's face it... there aren't many surprises with the iPhone and iOS anymore (not saying that's a bad thing per se).

Very true. The iPhone is a been there done that phone. Its a fine phone I'm sure, but let's face it there's nothing amazing about it that hasn't been done.

blizeH
Sep 18, 2012, 06:29 PM
Just wrote a very long reply and Chrome for iPad lost it - not sure which company to blame for that ;) Anyway, thank you all again so much for your responses, a friend kindly let me test run his S3 for a while earlier, and...

Things I liked:
+ Cost; factoring in micro USB and micro SD slot, I'll save almost 200
+ Size; extra width allowing a 720p resolution is nice
+ Widgets; very useful, with a nice app list to fall back on
+ SwiftKey; for showing the kind of customisation that simply isn't possible on iOS
+ NFC; for showing that Samsung are trying to stay ahead of the curve
+ Toggles; so simple, yet so essential, requires jailbreak on iOS
+ Speed; it felt really quite nippy, especially the camera
+ Messaging; messaging is a truly awful experience in iOS without jailbreak and BiteSMS

And some things I didn't like:
- No PhotoStream; no way to easily and instantly sync to iPad and Apple TV
- No AirPlay; very useful for Plex, iPlayer, Sky Go and gaming
- Gaming; no GameCenter, limited choice of games
- Apps; repurchasing apps will be costly (LogMeIn alone is 20)
- Play Store; limited availability compared to iOS, no way to backup/sync to desktop(?)

I'm almost tempted to wait for the Samsung Nexus 2, though none of my negatives regarding the S3 will be fixed by doing that.

It will make my experience very fragmented though - no seamless sync between devices, no AirPlay, no GameCenter, having to repurchase apps I already own, as well as potentially buying future apps on two devices too, hmm.

onthecouchagain
Sep 18, 2012, 06:44 PM
Curious as to why you'd think that? For me its great. Yea images can be noisy in low light and the lens could be wider. But for a cell phone can I think its quite nice. Course its no SLR.




It suffices for a smartphone camera, but being an ex-4S owner, there's no question the camera is a downgrade.

cynics
Sep 18, 2012, 06:48 PM
It suffices for a smartphone camera, but being an ex-4S owner, there's no question the camera is a downgrade.

I've found it better for a macro shot. I just can't get my 4S close enough to the object to focus. What do you think?

Edit: example I took this at work today

The screw doesn't have a flat head slot. Its a factory defect on the control I was working on....

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/19/zyju7ada.jpg

But that's as close as I could get. I just wanted to go a little closer but even that close was slightly out of focus.... That's a 4s btw....

blizeH
Sep 19, 2012, 04:58 AM
Just tested I tested out the original Samsung Nexus earlier after people have said it has a nicer OS, and honestly I think TouchWiz is actually better than stock Android, though the feel and size of the Nexus is far better.

blizeH
Sep 19, 2012, 04:51 PM
I did it. I went S3.

Feel relieved - even though I'll miss the integration with my other devices (in particular iPad and Apple TV) I'm so disappointed with Apple right now that I'm sure I've made the right decision.

The best part is that the total cost of my contract (100 minutes, unlimited texts and 1.5GB data) came to 492. To put that into context, buying an iPhone up front would have cost 530, and there isn't a single contract I've found that would cost less than 895, almost double what my S3 cost.

Happy. :) Thank you guys.

3bs
Sep 19, 2012, 05:04 PM
I did it. I went S3.

Feel relieved - even though I'll miss the integration with my other devices (in particular iPad and Apple TV) I'm so disappointed with Apple right now that I'm sure I've made the right decision.

The best part is that the total cost of my contract (100 minutes, unlimited texts and 1.5GB data) came to 492. To put that into context, buying an iPhone up front would have cost 530, and there isn't a single contract I've found that would cost less than 895, almost double what my S3 cost.

Happy. :) Thank you guys.

Congrats! The S3 is a great phone. Let us know if you need any help with anything (not that I'm an expert but I'll try :p)

lyunmac
Sep 19, 2012, 11:27 PM
In case you have any pictures, music, or videos on your GS3 and wanted to play them on your tv, you can use the Twonky app to connect with your apple tv. I was surprised it worked when I was trying it with my galaxy player. It connected with my apple tv 3 and I played music, showed some photos, and played Captain America on my tv.

iphonefan74
Sep 19, 2012, 11:51 PM
In case you have any pictures, music, or videos on your GS3 and wanted to play them on your tv, you can use the Twonky app to connect with your apple tv. I was surprised it worked when I was trying it with my galaxy player. It connected with my apple tv 3 and I played music, showed some photos, and played Captain America on my tv.

How? Doesn't work at all on my SIII and ATV, uninstalled it

blizeH
Sep 20, 2012, 05:11 AM
Thanks 3bs! :)

In case you have any pictures, music, or videos on your GS3 and wanted to play them on your tv, you can use the Twonky app to connect with your apple tv. I was surprised it worked when I was trying it with my galaxy player. It connected with my apple tv 3 and I played music, showed some photos, and played Captain America on my tv.
How exactly does this work? I'll give it a try as soon as I get my phone though, thank you.

To be honest with regards to the Apple TV I'm more interested in things like Plex, iPlayer etc etc that won't be possible now without an iPhone

Calidude
Sep 20, 2012, 05:16 AM
iPlayer etc etc that won't be possible now without an iPhone
Good news for you today.

The mobile BBC iPlayer website is now starting to use Air instead of Flash, and the Android app will follow next week, the organisation said.

http://www.zdnet.com/uk/bbc-swaps-flash-for-air-on-android-and-mobile-iplayer-7000004500/

blizeH
Sep 21, 2012, 03:51 AM
Ah, that is good news, thank you! Unfortunately though I still don't think I'll be able to then send that stream to my Apple TV :(

Tarzanman
Sep 21, 2012, 07:01 AM
And some things I didn't like:
- No PhotoStream; no way to easily and instantly sync to iPad and Apple TV

Blame apple for not supporting open standards. Any DLNA enabled device will enable you to share your photos.... OR you can just open up a web browser (on your ipad) and go to your Google Picasa page which will contain your automatically-uploaded photos taken with the phone.

- No AirPlay; very useful for Plex, iPlayer, Sky Go and gaming
DLNA. Its an industry standard.
- Gaming; no GameCenter, limited choice of games
I do not game on my android devices, so I cannot speak to this
- Apps; repurchasing apps will be costly (LogMeIn alone is 20)
yep, thems the breaks.
- Play Store; limited availability compared to iOS, no way to backup/sync to desktop(?)
You can back up your apps to:
1. The device (Titanium)
2. A computer (Titanium or other programs that create a backup image of your phone that you can transfer to a PC)
3. The cloud (like you are supposed to, though this does not always preserve settings)
Is your real complaint that there is no Itunes-like program? Lol...and thats a bad thing?

I'm almost tempted to wait for the Samsung Nexus 2, though none of my negatives regarding the S3 will be fixed by doing that.

It will make my experience very fragmented though - no seamless sync between devices, no AirPlay, no GameCenter, having to repurchase apps I already own, as well as potentially buying future apps on two devices too, hmm.

No amount of waiting will make your Android stuff play with your apple stuff any better. It is the price you pay for going with a walled garden.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 21, 2012, 07:16 AM
I am getting an S3 next week!! My iPhone 4 is losing the will to live the the 5 doesnt do it for me so I will be getting an S3. It looks to be getting Jelly Bean next month and I'm looking forward to things like drag and drop and ripping my CD's onto it. What type of SD card does it use so I can order one now?

b24pgg
Sep 21, 2012, 08:34 AM
I am getting an S3 next week!! My iPhone 4 is losing the will to live the the 5 doesnt do it for me so I will be getting an S3. It looks to be getting Jelly Bean next month and I'm looking forward to things like drag and drop and ripping my CD's onto it. What type of SD card does it use so I can order one now?
Congrats! You'll enjoy it. You can use any microSD/SDHC/SDXC card. I'm currently rocking a 64GB microSDXC in mine.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 21, 2012, 08:43 AM
Congrats! You'll enjoy it. You can use any microSD/SDHC/SDXC card. I'm currently rocking a 64GB microSDXC in mine.

Thanks, I'm going to order a card in time to put stright into my Phone :D

TedM
Sep 21, 2012, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't. I did the opposite. I originally got a droid for the reasons listed above. But my phone started to degrade over time and had a lot of a software issues. Wasn't worth the stability sacrifice offered by apple.

iphonefan74
Sep 21, 2012, 03:34 PM
I've had an iPhone ever since the 3G, and honestly couldn't see myself ever switching, but I am so utterly underwhelmed by the iPhone 5 I'm actually considering making the move to Android.

But I'm wondering, what will I miss?

+ The nice interface of iOS?
+ The relatively seamless syncing between my iPad and Apple TV?
+ Gaming, GameCenter and the App Store

And what I certainly won't miss:

- Lack of NFC
- General lack of innovation
- Very expensive storage options (600/~$970 for 32GB)
- Poor battery life
- Requiring a jailbreak for basic functionality
- Narrow screen
- Propitiatory connections
- Supporting a company that seems utterly unethical
- Nano sim requiring me to change provider, when I'm very happy right now

The problem for me, is the app store for me probably counters all of those negative points. Though I really wish it didn't - it'll be a nightmare re-buying so many apps for Android too - though if I don't jump now, I'll be locked in even further to the iOS ecosystem.

Get an Android phone and then a new iPod Touch 5 next month which is the iphone 5 without calling. That way you can have both platforms. Problem solved.

onthecouchagain
Sep 21, 2012, 04:16 PM
The best combination is really an Android smartphone and an iPad.

Macs are a given ;)

iphonefan74
Sep 21, 2012, 04:21 PM
The best combination is really an Android smartphone and an iPad.

Macs are a given ;)

Had all 3 iPads, too big, might as well carry around my Air. The Nexus 7 is more portable and much better all around than the iPad.

Dolorian
Sep 21, 2012, 07:12 PM
I did it. I went S3.

Feel relieved - even though I'll miss the integration with my other devices (in particular iPad and Apple TV) I'm so disappointed with Apple right now that I'm sure I've made the right decision.

Excellent choice! I've made the switch from an iPhone 4 to a Galaxy S3 a week ago and I couldn't be happier with my decision. The S3 is totally amazing, you'll love it.

3bs
Sep 21, 2012, 07:44 PM
I'm seriously debating getting one but I've never owned a tablet and I don't know if I really have use for one. I don't want to spend the money and end up not using it. I should probably save my money for the next Nexus phone.

Wrathwitch
Sep 22, 2012, 10:56 AM
-Lock screen toggle: A real winner for usability. It was always a pain in the butt to have to input my lock screen code to the iPhone when I was at home. Now, I can toggle the lock screen on when I go out for the security, then toggle it off when I get home where no security is needed to immediately access my phone. It's really lovely. Ditto Sound profile toggles. It offers so much more flexibility than just Mute or no-Mute.



How do you do this? I would love to know!!



*snip*

Bad battery life? If you think the iPhone is bad, you're in for a rude awakening on Android. My Droid was TERRIBLE on battery life. My wife's current Droid3 is horrendous. My buddy's EVO 4G is dead in a matter of hours. You have to be VERY careful about what Android phone you buy to get decent life out of one. My 4S is dramatically better on battery life than my Droid was.
.

I find my battery life to be very good with the GS3. I had problems at first, but then I did some research and trouble shooting. Juice Defender saves me a lot. I can get easily 20 hours of light use, 16+ hours moderate. No, I don't have power save options selected either.

onthecouchagain
Sep 22, 2012, 11:29 AM
How do you do this? I would love to know!!



I find my battery life to be very good with the GS3. I had problems at first, but then I did some research and trouble shooting. Juice Defender saves me a lot. I can get easily 20 hours of light use, 16+ hours moderate. No, I don't have power save options selected either.


No Lock app in the Play Store, mon ami. There are probably other alternatives too.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 22, 2012, 03:05 PM
Decided to bite the bullet and get an S3 today and I love it, I cant put the thing down. Every app I had on my iPhone was available on the S3 and i love being able to put things where I want them to be. I love getting used to a new OS. Watching videos on this phone is unreal :D

dmelgar
Sep 22, 2012, 11:41 PM
Interesting that I see far fewer iPhone folks bashing the s3 here than vice-versa.

I don't know how Samsung is/will be, but HTC doesn't support their phones after launch. I have an HTC Incredible and HTC Thunderbolt. Generally, once most phones are purchased, there's no incentive for the manufacturer to improve it. They already have all the money they can get from you. If something doesn't work today, there's a good chance it wont work later, especially after a newer phone comes out.

The HTC Incredible that I have has 6GB or memory, but it runs out of space to install apps. Turns out there's a 300MB partition that apps can use. Why would someone allow so little space. Makes no sense. Now Pandora won't work on it. Plays a few seconds of a song and skips to the next song. I've tried all sorts of things, scoured the web. Doesn't work.

Thunderbolt, all sorts of software problems with it. After the last update that didn't fix anything noticeable, LTE has been unusable. It constantly connects then disconnects every few seconds if trying to use data. Verizon denies any change to the network. They say the phone is out of warranty, buy a new one. But many people are having the same issue starting at the time of the last update. HTC PROMISED, last year to update to Ice Cream Sandwich. They finally PROMISED to get it done by August 2012. That came and went with no news. The phone spontaneously reboots every couple of days for good measure, usually when I need it. Takes over 5 minutes to reboot.

On the Thunderbolt half the time you try and use voice recognition, it doesn't register your voice at all, as if its not connecting to the mic. Sometimes a second attempt fixes it, but the worst part is it complains at you that you didn't speak loud enough, even if you screamed at it.

Cut and paste is up to each application. HTC copied Apple's approach for their apps, but I use K9 for email and its not very practical in that app.

Thunderbolt and Incredible cameras had good specs, but performance is mediocre at best. Video is choppy, adjusting light levels is jumpy during video making it look really bad. Overall, I certainly can't use it for video, photos in a pinch.

I bought an S3 to give it a good try. Sammy has lots of interesting new ideas. Some are incredibly lame, such as most of the gestures, tilt to zoom? Really? Get serious. Double tap the top of the phone, palm swiping, shaking the phone to refresh, all seem really silly.

But some of the features are interesting. I liked the notepad that you can use with voice recognition. It shows the words as you say them which is really nice, rather than wait until you say you're done.

Nice ideas like picking a word to wake up their Siri imitation. However, I could almost never get that to work.

Reception was much worse than an old Nokia and G1 I have laying around.

After the HTC experiences over the last 3 years, I threw in the towel and have switched to iOS. Apple seems to better support their products over time. They clearly make mistakes, but they generally try to improve over time and support their products.

funkeruski
Sep 23, 2012, 12:43 AM
I may be making the jump to the Galaxy S3 after having an iPhone from the beginning. All my music is in iTunes. A lot of it was ripped from my CD collections, while other music was bought off iTunes. Would I be able to transfer these tunes onto an S3? If so, how hard is it to do?

Stropaganda
Sep 23, 2012, 01:08 AM
I may be making the jump to the Galaxy S3 after having an iPhone from the beginning. All my music is in iTunes. A lot of it was ripped from my CD collections, while other music was bought off iTunes. Would I be able to transfer these tunes onto an S3? If so, how hard is it to do?
Search DoubleTwist app in Google.

Bilalo
Sep 23, 2012, 01:23 AM
I am getting an S3 next week!! My iPhone 4 is losing the will to live the the 5 doesnt do it for me so I will be getting an S3. It looks to be getting Jelly Bean next month and I'm looking forward to things like drag and drop and ripping my CD's onto it. What type of SD card does it use so I can order one now?

Make sure not to drop it, screen side cracks are so easy... Look at the s3 vs iphone 5 drop test, all my cousins with s3 have atleast one side with screen cracks.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 23, 2012, 03:27 AM
Make sure not to drop it, screen side cracks are so easy... Look at the s3 vs iphone 5 drop test, all my cousins with s3 have atleast one side with screen cracks.

Yeah I saw that but that's what insurance us for ;)

Jazper
Sep 23, 2012, 03:38 AM
I'd wait for the Nexus 2, there are other alternatives like the HTC One X or the X or the SG3. However the thing about the iPhone is the camera and the great apps.

Apps run much better on the iPhone and that's a major plus point for many of us. I much prefer the simpler UI of the iPhone as well, android is too busy and showy off! \

Either way, for the same price of the iPhone you can get a great android phone, either one you decide in getting you won't regret it. I'm just saying I think it's better for you to keep on the Apple boat!

Dolorian
Sep 23, 2012, 07:30 AM
Decided to bite the bullet and get an S3 today and I love it, I cant put the thing down. Every app I had on my iPhone was available on the S3 and i love being able to put things where I want them to be. I love getting used to a new OS. Watching videos on this phone is unreal :D

Welcome to the club! :D I feel exactly the same, have had the S3 for a week and I just can't put it down, it is so amazing! The screen is one big sexy thing isn't it? I watched a movie on it recently and it was so nice, and even my sister when I was at my mother's house yesterday sat down with it and watched a movie, she had a blast with the S3's big screen.

I had the same experience with apps, every app I used or a nice alternative thereof was available in the Play Store. No shortage of apps, the Play Store is packaged and quite a joy to use.

ReanimationN
Sep 23, 2012, 09:24 AM
I may be making the jump to the Galaxy S3 after having an iPhone from the beginning. All my music is in iTunes. A lot of it was ripped from my CD collections, while other music was bought off iTunes. Would I be able to transfer these tunes onto an S3? If so, how hard is it to do?

Grab iSyncr from the Play Store. All you do is tick the playlists/albums/artists you want on your phone/tablet and click sync, done. Easy as that, I've been using it all the time on my Nexus 7.

Bilalo
Sep 23, 2012, 11:21 AM
Yeah I saw that but that's what insurance us for ;)

True but do you feel like waiting like a week every time? My friend got his, cracked his screen, fixed it, 2 days later while texting someone pushed him accidentally it broke again, fixed it then cracked a 3rd time getting out of the car xD haha

tbayrgs
Sep 23, 2012, 11:42 AM
I may be making the jump to the Galaxy S3 after having an iPhone from the beginning. All my music is in iTunes. A lot of it was ripped from my CD collections, while other music was bought off iTunes. Would I be able to transfer these tunes onto an S3? If so, how hard is it to do?

Grab iSyncr from the Play Store. All you do is tick the playlists/albums/artists you want on your phone/tablet and click sync, done. Easy as that, I've been using it all the time on my Nexus 7.

Or if data overages aren't a concern, you can load it up into Google Music and stream it as necessary. Whenever you add something new to your music library on your computer it automatically gets added to your Google Music library. Definitely nice when your device doesn't offer expandable memory.

Dolorian
Sep 23, 2012, 11:55 AM
True but do you feel like waiting like a week every time? My friend got his, cracked his screen, fixed it, 2 days later while texting someone pushed him accidentally it broke again, fixed it then cracked a 3rd time getting out of the car xD haha

Your friend needs to learn how to properly handle a phone it seems.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 23, 2012, 12:11 PM
Welcome to the club! :D I feel exactly the same, have had the S3 for a week and I just can't put it down, it is so amazing! The screen is one big sexy thing isn't it? I watched a movie on it recently and it was so nice, and even my sister when I was at my mother's house yesterday sat down with it and watched a movie, she had a blast with the S3's big screen.

I had the same experience with apps, every app I used or a nice alternative thereof was available in the Play Store. No shortage of apps, the Play Store is packaged and quite a joy to use.
The screen is amazing, The notifications are brilliant as well, having access to the settings so easily is a real time saver.
Grab iSyncr from the Play Store. All you do is tick the playlists/albums/artists you want on your phone/tablet and click sync, done. Easy as that, I've been using it all the time on my Nexus 7.

I think your friend needs to be a bit more careful ;)

blizeH
Sep 24, 2012, 06:46 AM
Having compared the S3 to the iPhone 5 in a phone store I'm really struggling to see why anyone would want to stick with the iPhone 5 right now. The iPhone 5 feels so unbelievably dated when compared to the S3, which is shocking considering the Samsung came out months earlier.

The screen and the OS are just mind-blowingly awesome, I cannot emphasize how impressed I am by this phone. The only negative would be the App Store... I'm hoping in time this will pick up but there is a definitely disparity between the two stores.

That being said, the vast majority of the apps I used are available (or indeed better) on Android, with mostly just games being the exception, and even then a lot of the better games are available on both devices. Really good to see the new Rayman game, something that many iOS devices are being touted as the best game on the platform, is actually being released on Android this week too.

munkery
Sep 24, 2012, 01:47 PM
Having compared the S3 to the iPhone 5 in a phone store I'm really struggling to see why anyone would want to stick with the iPhone 5 right now. ...

Maybe because at the recent mobile pwn2own the iPhone was only exploited to the point that non critical data available via official APIs was exposed while the S3 was exploited to the point that all data on the phone was exposed and malware could be installed because the S3 exploit included privilege escalation.

The fact that Android is more prone to privilege escalation vulnerabilities combined with an App Store that mostly relies on a reputation model, where users have to become infected including possibly by banking malware, to vet the security of apps is the reason to get an iPhone.

The likelihood of an Android phone being infected by malware via privilege escalation is increased by the fragmentation present amongst android devices. Very few devices are running the latest version of Android, which means most devices aren't fully patched. The S3 isn't running the most recent version of Android.

Gatecrasher1875
Sep 24, 2012, 02:31 PM
Having compared the S3 to the iPhone 5 in a phone store I'm really struggling to see why anyone would want to stick with the iPhone 5 right now. The iPhone 5 feels so unbelievably dated when compared to the S3, which is shocking considering the Samsung came out months earlier.

The screen and the OS are just mind-blowingly awesome, I cannot emphasize how impressed I am by this phone. The only negative would be the App Store... I'm hoping in time this will pick up but there is a definitely disparity between the two stores.

That being said, the vast majority of the apps I used are available (or indeed better) on Android, with mostly just games being the exception, and even then a lot of the better games are available on both devices. Really good to see the new Rayman game, something that many iOS devices are being touted as the best game on the platform, is actually being released on Android this week too.
Its not even the size of the screen, i was sitting my S3 and iPhone 4 together and its like going from an old style tv to a flatscreen, the colours just pop right at you

PhoneI
Sep 24, 2012, 02:31 PM
Having compared the S3 to the iPhone 5 in a phone store I'm really struggling to see why anyone would want to stick with the iPhone 5 right now. The iPhone 5 feels so unbelievably dated when compared to the S3, which is shocking considering the Samsung came out months earlier.

The screen and the OS are just mind-blowingly awesome, I cannot emphasize how impressed I am by this phone. The only negative would be the App Store... I'm hoping in time this will pick up but there is a definitely disparity between the two stores.

That being said, the vast majority of the apps I used are available (or indeed better) on Android, with mostly just games being the exception, and even then a lot of the better games are available on both devices. Really good to see the new Rayman game, something that many iOS devices are being touted as the best game on the platform, is actually being released on Android this week too.

iMessage is probably the biggest reason I can never leave iOS. I find almost everyone I know has either an iPhone or an iPad. My mother and father have no computer. They use the iPad as a computer replacement. I have no more need for a text plan ($20 is the only supported At&t text plan now). In addition, my children all have iPod Touch devices. Whenever I am traveling they can text me and faceTime me. Just cant replace that with an Android device now.

thejadedmonkey
Sep 24, 2012, 02:35 PM
iMessage is probably the biggest reason I can never leave iOS. I find almost everyone I know has either an iPhone or an iPad. My mother and father have no computer. They use the iPad as a computer replacement. I have no more need for a text plan ($20 is the only supported At&t text plan now). In addition, my children all have iPod Touch devices. Whenever I am traveling they can text me and faceTime me. Just cant replace that with an Android device now.

Skype.

PhoneI
Sep 24, 2012, 02:54 PM
Skype.

sure, I will tell everyone that I know to get a skype account and install and configure it (including my 2,6,and 9 year old children). I will also tell them to make certain they are always logged in.

Not nearly as seamless as iMessage and FaceTime.

munkery
Sep 24, 2012, 04:00 PM
Skype.

Microsoft ruined Skype.

Skype supernodes are being centralized by Microsoft, but they deny wiretapping. But there's this patent they have to intercept VoIP phone calls...

Back in May, skype-open-source reported Skype, owned by Microsoft, had replaced user-hosted P2P supernodes with Linux grsec systems hosted by Microsoft. The shock wasn't that Microsoft is hosing Skype on Linux servers, but that centralization makes it possible to wiretap Skype communications. One big advantage of Skype has always been the decentralized and encrypted service was secure from eavesdropping.

Microsoft denies this, but the company applied for a patent on a technology called Legal Intercept to monitor and record Skype calls. Applied for before they purchased Skype, Microsoft specifically mentions intercepting calls on that service in the patent application. Conspiracy theorists now say they understand why Microsoft paid what seemed to be an unusually high price for Skype.

http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/286482/was-skype-reworked-microsoft-make-it-easier-wiretap

Funny that Microsoft doesn't even use servers running Windows!

Also, FaceTime is HIPAA compliant while whether or not Skype is HIPAA compliant is debatable.

And, you can't trust Microsoft to keep things encrypted.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/did-microsoft-leave-hotmail-open-for-dictators/874