View Full Version : Zelda Delayed to Next Year
xli_ne
Aug 18, 2005, 11:20 AM
Heres a link... Link (http://cube.ign.com/articles/642/642238p1.html)
Not to surprised by this, just really wanted it to come out as soon as possible. But if they are requesting time to add new levels, more depth and even higher quality to Zelda: Twilight Princess then I'm cool with that. March 2006, such a long time away.
MacNut
Aug 18, 2005, 12:12 PM
If nintendo was really smart they would hold this off for the Revolution, What's another 10 months. They could then make the game even stronger and give people more reason to upgrade. Why prolong the life of the Game Cube with such a game.
mrgreen4242
Aug 18, 2005, 12:14 PM
If nintendo was really smart they would hold this off for the Revolution, What's another 10 months. They could then make the game even stronger and give people more reason to upgrade. Why prolong the life of the Game Cube with such a game.
It'd be better to release it against the XBox 360 launch, imo. Might keep some people holding out for the Revolution rather than "upgrading" to the 360...
Whyren
Aug 18, 2005, 12:30 PM
If nintendo was really smart they would hold this off for the Revolution, What's another 10 months. They could then make the game even stronger and give people more reason to upgrade. Why prolong the life of the Game Cube with such a game.
They tried that with Samus/Metroid, not doing an N64 version while waiting for GameCube. Lotsa people weren't happy, but with Metroid Prime as the result, I can't complain :D. And they do have a GameCube Zelda, but I think a lot of people still want the "realistic" version they've been touting since before the Wind Waker concept was even really developed. I mean, there have been previews of this thing (or at least similar to it) since before the GameCube was released.
raggedjimmi
Aug 18, 2005, 12:45 PM
I think its a very smart move to release Zelda quite late on. although the Rev is coming out not too long after, it doesn't mean that the Cube will instantly be forgotten and fall into the depths of obsolete technology. they still make PS1 games after all, AND the rev is to aggressively backwards compatible.
it would also get people buying Gamecubes, especially at the incredible prices they are right now. Zelda + Gamecube = £60. bargain.
but to the reasons of the delay; anything that can make Zelda better is a good thing. Hell it'd probably do insanely well without the delay, after all... its Zelda. ;)
raggedjimmi
Aug 18, 2005, 12:55 PM
They tried that with Samus/Metroid, not doing an N64 version while waiting for GameCube. Lotsa people weren't happy, but with Metroid Prime as the result, I can't complain :D. And they do have a GameCube Zelda, but I think a lot of people still want the "realistic" version they've been touting since before the Wind Waker concept was even really developed. I mean, there have been previews of this thing (or at least similar to it) since before the GameCube was released.
If you mean the Spaceworld Zelda then its been confirmed that it has nothing to do with Twilight Princess, it was just a beta video thing. think the PS3 FF7 video.
On most nintendo consoles there have been at least 2 Zeldas (barring GB);
Nes: Zelda I, Zelda II
Snes: Link to the Past, BS Link to the Past
GB: Links Awakening
GBC: Awakening DX, Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons
N64: Ocarina of Time, Master Quest, Majoras Mask
GBA: Link to the Past, Four Swords, Minish Cap, Zelda I and II Nes classics
GC: Windwaker, Four Swords, Ocarina of time + Master Quest ports, Twilight Princess (?)
Mavimao
Aug 18, 2005, 01:46 PM
Snes: Link to the Past, BS Link to the Past
whoa, what's this "BS Link to the Past" version?!
And let's not forget the 3DO versions ;-)
EDIT: nevermind, found it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_Zelda:_Kodai_no_Sekiban
MacNut
Aug 18, 2005, 01:52 PM
Wow a 3DO reference, thats taking it old school.
DavidLeblond
Aug 18, 2005, 03:31 PM
And let's not forget the 3DO versions ;-)
Surely you mean the Phillips CD-i. ;)
MacNut
Aug 18, 2005, 03:51 PM
Surely you mean the Phillips CD-i. ;)What one was supposed to be better, the 3DO or the CD-i.
crachoar
Aug 18, 2005, 04:06 PM
The 3DO.
However, the CD-i had...*gasp!* VCDs!
About Zelda - is anybody honestly surprised by this?
They always do this with Zelda games.
MacNut
Aug 18, 2005, 04:09 PM
I have been waiting for this game for a long time now, I guess another 6 months is nothing. :rolleyes: I better get the best game ever made tho if they will make us wait 2 years. :)
Mavimao
Aug 18, 2005, 04:13 PM
The 3DO.
However, the CD-i had...*gasp!* VCDs!
About Zelda - is anybody honestly surprised by this?
They always do this with Zelda games.
That's right, the CD-i! I forgot, sorry.
Yeah, Crachoar is right about this: Ocarina of Time took FOREVER to come out. I remember people waiting for that game for years.
However, that was different. They were intending that game to come with the 64HDD which lived a very brief life in Japan. After scraping that idea, they had to switch to a normal cartridge based game.
In all it was worth the wait. What a beautiful game! Easy but wonderful. I can't wait for Twilight princess!
katchow
Aug 18, 2005, 05:52 PM
would love to see some voice acting and scored music instead of the wanky midi...i mean what year is it anyway?
GFLPraxis
Aug 18, 2005, 06:32 PM
would love to see some voice acting and scored music instead of the wanky midi...i mean what year is it anyway?
You're calling Wind Waker's music MIDI? I burned the soundtrack to a CD and even my mother (who hates video games) likes listening to it!
Voice acting...Zelda...nah.
Besides, it's already been confirmed that Zelda: Twilight Princess is fully 100% orchestrated music. They've already released an MP3 from it and its beautiful.
Viewtiful Rich
Aug 18, 2005, 07:34 PM
A couple things guys (gals)
Nintendo will be announcing the global release date after March 31, so unless they plan on releasing it in the summer (which is very very unlikely) I'd expect at least a one year delay.
And actually the type of music hasn't been decided yet, Koji Kondo, the guy behind the lovely piece for the latest trailer is pushing to use an orchestra though (see Nintendo Power Sept Issue).
With the extra time I'm hoping that they add voice acting (except for Link), orchestrated soundtrack, and change it to widescreen format. I also hope they move it to the Revolution, because releasing quite possibly their greatest game ever on a beyond dead console (by that time) doesn't make any sense.
MacNut
Aug 18, 2005, 08:19 PM
The only problem I could see with a Revolution release is how much of the game would need to be rewritten and is it worth it to add that long a delay.
Ringo
Aug 18, 2005, 09:20 PM
The only problem I could see with a Revolution release is how much of the game would need to be rewritten and is it worth it to add that long a delay.
Well according from what nintendo said, it's suppose to be really easy to write and port game for the revolution. And it's being delay for at least something like next june or Xmas 06, so i believe they would have plenty of time. We'll just have to wait i guess..
raggedjimmi
Aug 18, 2005, 10:02 PM
would love to see some voice acting and scored music instead of the wanky midi...i mean what year is it anyway?
Windwaker isn't midi. Some songs may sound like it, but mixed with a symphonic score. its arty, mixing the old and new and all that. Fitted the Windwaker setting perfectly, a game not too serious but fun to play. unlike Twilight Princess which is taking itself all very seriously.
Voice acting? could be the old-skool gamer in me but the fact that all the major Zelda characters don't have a 'voice' makes me think up my own. If Link started talking it'd lose so much. Im happy with the grunts and other noises, even when Zelda games are on 40Gb discs i hope voices are kept to a minimum.
As for Zelda delays. Funny. I've been a Zelda fan since playing Zelda 2 on my cousins Nes. but... maybe its because i've only recently been following release dates and the likes, but Ive never seen a delayed Zelda game. Windwaker seemed to come out on time, as did Minish Cap and GBA Link to the Past, and those 2 Oracle games (infact I have a magazine in my wardrobe which says the release date, and matches with Gamefaqs release date too, the preview was done a whole year before its release too). Ocarina of Time was a pleasant experience too. It said it'd be a year or so in a mag, and it was.
only thing im worrying about is this thing selling out whilst im after it! :eek:
crachoar
Aug 18, 2005, 11:21 PM
The only problem I could see with a Revolution release is how much of the game would need to be rewritten and is it worth it to add that long a delay.
Apparently, the 'Rev' as we'll call it - houses the actual Gamecube hardware inside. No emulation at all. It even has the GC controller / mem card ports.
From what Nintendo has talked about - it sounds like 'Gamecube 2'.
But, who knows. They're crazy like that...
Really, Nintendo hasn't launched a system with 'Zelda' to date. You expect them to now?
Logic would answer, 'yes'.
Need I remind you - this is Nintendo we're talking about.
They're...crazy...
Whyren
Aug 19, 2005, 12:09 AM
Apparently, the 'Rev' as we'll call it - houses the actual Gamecube hardware inside. No emulation at all. It even has the GC controller / mem card ports.
From what Nintendo has talked about - it sounds like 'Gamecube 2'.
But, who knows. They're crazy like that...
Really, Nintendo hasn't launched a system with 'Zelda' to date. You expect them to now?
Logic would answer, 'yes'.
Need I remind you - this is Nintendo we're talking about.
They're...crazy...
And the GameCube wasn't even released with a Mario game :eek:
...OK, Luigi's Mansion is Marioesque and he was in the game, but you know what I mean. :cool:
raggedjimmi
Aug 19, 2005, 06:46 AM
would be nice if the Rev go back to their 'get a Mario game free' roots.
on a sidenote; is Revolution its project name? a la Dolphin?
Poff
Aug 19, 2005, 06:50 AM
Or a free Tetris-game? ;)
I believe it's the actual name. I guess we won't know for sure before they release it tho, but they write about the Revolution as if it's an actual name. :)
jdechko
Aug 19, 2005, 08:18 AM
I don't really want to wait for it. I don't really see a good reason for putting it off, unless they fell behind. It could really keep sales going until the release of the Revolution.
Yvan256
Aug 19, 2005, 10:51 AM
If nintendo was really smart they would hold this off for the Revolution, What's another 10 months. They could then make the game even stronger and give people more reason to upgrade. Why prolong the life of the Game Cube with such a game.
The GameCube is really a great system, I'm still wondering why people keep putting it down! I mean, the current crappy system has to be the PS2: slow load time, crappy graphics (except maybe titles such as Gran Turismo).
I hope they'll release it for the GameCube, because I think Nintendo will wait to see the PS3 (and it's pricing) before doing anything with the Revolution.
Yvan256
Aug 19, 2005, 10:55 AM
The 3DO.
However, the CD-i had...*gasp!* VCDs!
About Zelda - is anybody honestly surprised by this?
They always do this with Zelda games.
The CD-i required an expansion module to be able to play the VCDs.
As for Zelda (or Nintendo in general), I'm glad their target is still about making great games (instead of shipping games on schedule).
What good is a game launched on schedule if the result isn't worth it?
raggedjimmi
Aug 19, 2005, 12:17 PM
I released a shmup back in July 2004 called Titan Omega, and it wasn't properly beta tested. had lots of problems. so i vigorously made its updated brother; Omega 1.5. which had very solid engine and no problems.
its good to wait.
GFLPraxis
Aug 20, 2005, 11:28 PM
Apparently, the 'Rev' as we'll call it - houses the actual Gamecube hardware inside. No emulation at all. It even has the GC controller / mem card ports.
From what Nintendo has talked about - it sounds like 'Gamecube 2'.
Um, the only similarities is that it's still using IBM processors and ATi graphics cards (therefore no emulation is needed, native backwards compatability. MICROSOFT switched to IBM and ATi, so it's not a bad decision at all), and they have the old ports for backwards compatability (as the DS has a GBA slot).
Nintendo hasn't talked at ALL about it being a GameCube 2. The opposite, in fact, they've been stating how its a completely new thing, and revolutionary. It just is able to play all the old games and GameCube games (and use its peripherals too).
raggedjimmi
Aug 21, 2005, 07:11 AM
Xbox using IBM and ATI... where does that sound familiar :confused: :rolleyes: :cool:
GFLPraxis
Aug 21, 2005, 01:32 PM
Xbox using IBM and ATI... where does that sound familiar :confused: :rolleyes: :cool:
You hadn't realized that?
Yeah, last generation, Nintendo used IBM and ATi. Microsoft used Intel and NVidia.
Now, Nintendo is still using IBM and ATi. Microsoft is switching to...IBM and ATi. People are proclaiming that the Revolution is basicly a GameCube? I don't see the logic. OMG! A PowerMac G5 still uses IBM processors and is natively compatable with apps that run on a G3, so a PowerMac G5 is a PowerMac G3 2 and therefore sucks!
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