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supervelous
Sep 19, 2012, 01:36 AM
but my goodness this battery is terrible. Also, I can not comfortably navigate with 1 hand, the screen is too big. And it does not compare to the design and premium feel of an iphone. When I receive my Iphone 5 this thing is likely going back.

However, it makes ios UI seem boring. Apple, please do something for ios 7 - widgets and something else fresh would be nice. I will happily return to Iphone 5 and it's stability and reliability, Facetime, app store, and imessage but the rows of apps thing is getting a bit boring.



haruhiko
Sep 19, 2012, 01:38 AM
Engadget ran a battery test on the iPhone 5 and it lasted more than 11 hours. Also the SunSpider JavaScript test released today by Anandtech shows that the iPhone 5 is 40% faster than the S III in this regard.

deannnnn
Sep 19, 2012, 01:39 AM
I think that a big appeal of Samsung devices and all other non-iOS devices is that the OS is just different. When you see the same looking OS on your iPhone for 5 years it starts to get a little boring, and that's why people get so disappointed when new iPhones come out. They think they're upset with the design of the phone when really they want a UI refresh.

irDigital0l
Sep 19, 2012, 01:39 AM
jailbreak...honestly

you get almost unlimited customization with the benefit of ios.

supervelous
Sep 19, 2012, 01:39 AM
Engadget ran a battery test on the iPhone 5 and it lasted more than 11 hours. Also the SunSpider JavaScript test released today by Anandtech shows that the iPhone 5 is 40% faster than the S III in this regard.

Good to hear, I took this S3 off the charger at 100% at 6:30am, and by about 1:30 it was at like 20% and I wasn't continually using it, or watching vids or anything very intensive.

mrsir2009
Sep 19, 2012, 01:41 AM
but my goodness this battery is terrible. Also, I can not comfortably navigate with 1 hand, the screen is too big. And it does not compare to the design and premium feel of an iphone. When I receive my Iphone 5 this thing is likely going back.

However, it makes ios UI seem boring. Apple, please do something for ios 7 - widgets and something else fresh would be nice. I will happily return to Iphone 5 and it's stability and reliability, Facetime, app store, and imessage but the rows of apps thing is getting a bit boring.

If you're getting bored with the standard iOS UI you can always Jailbreak - It's quite nice as you can "freshen up" the UI by adding themes, widgets, custom homescreen layouts etc :)

supervelous
Sep 19, 2012, 01:42 AM
jailbreak...honestly

you get almost unlimited customization with the benefit of ios.

My Iphone 4 is jailbroken, hopefully the 5 doesn't take too long.

Che Castro
Sep 19, 2012, 01:48 AM
jailbreak...honestly

you get almost unlimited customization with the benefit of ios.

This

jabingla2810
Sep 19, 2012, 01:50 AM
Thanks for bringing this up!

I'm cancelling my iPhone 5 order as we speak!

Ent
Sep 19, 2012, 01:53 AM
I think that a big appeal of Samsung devices and all other non-iOS devices is that the OS is just different. When you see the same looking OS on your iPhone for 5 years it starts to get a little boring, and that's why people get so disappointed when new iPhones come out. They think they're upset with the design of the phone when really they want a UI refresh.

This

wongulous
Sep 19, 2012, 02:02 AM
Why is this in iPhone? THERE IS A WHOLE FORUM DEVOTED TO iPHONE ALTERNATIVES.

I am quite well-researched on Android devices and Samsung's lineup. Do. Not. Care. :rolleyes:

supervelous
Sep 19, 2012, 02:04 AM
Why is this in iPhone? THERE IS A WHOLE FORUM DEVOTED TO iPHONE ALTERNATIVES.

I am quite well-researched on Android devices and Samsung's lineup. Do. Not. Care. :rolleyes:

Put it in here, bc although I like many things about the Galaxy, I have decided to go with Iphone 5 - also relevant to Iphone and other people in the same boat.

I choose Iphone.

kvizzel
Sep 19, 2012, 02:08 AM
jailbreak...honestly

you get almost unlimited customization with the benefit of ios.

not as much as you do with rooting android

Castle87
Sep 19, 2012, 02:11 AM
I'm not trying to sound like a douche but I feel like android is this sort of movement for people who like to be non conformists. The same people who would argue that creative zens or zunes were superior to ipods. I had an android, granted it was 2 and a half years ago, and they've made some strides since then, but honestly, I don't get the hype for android. I mean like what is it specifically that is supposed to draw you in? Like someone said earlier, most people just get tempted because ios doesn't go through massive overhauls with every release and in this short attention span generation, people are getting restless. ios works. every single time. I'll take stability and a clean, uniform, organized interface over clunky widgets and customization any day. That's just me.

Gangnam Style
Sep 19, 2012, 02:22 AM
I'm not trying to sound like a douche but I feel like android is this sort of movement for people who like to be non conformists. The same people who would argue that creative zens or zunes were superior to ipods. I had an android, granted it was 2 and a half years ago, and they've made some strides since then, but honestly, I don't get the hype for android. I mean like what is it specifically that is supposed to draw you in? Like someone said earlier, most people just get tempted because ios doesn't go through massive overhauls with every release and in this short attention span generation, people are getting restless. ios works. every single time. I'll take stability and a clean, uniform, organized interface over clunky widgets and customization any day. That's just me.

You could say the exact same thing about the iPhone and iOS.

As for the OP's fast battery drain, that is not normal for the S3.

einmusiker
Sep 19, 2012, 02:27 AM
Good to hear, I took this S3 off the charger at 100% at 6:30am, and by about 1:30 it was at like 20% and I wasn't continually using it, or watching vids or anything very intensive.

Dude, Turn the screen brightness down to 50% seriously. Makes a HUGE difference. Just like my ipad 3. If i have the screen brightness on full blast battery is CRAP, but turn it down to 50% and all good

RowdyRude
Sep 19, 2012, 02:32 AM
I'm not trying to sound like a douche but I feel like android is this sort of movement for people who like to be non conformists. The same people who would argue that creative zens or zunes were superior to ipods. I had an android, granted it was 2 and a half years ago, and they've made some strides since then, but honestly, I don't get the hype for android. I mean like what is it specifically that is supposed to draw you in? Like someone said earlier, most people just get tempted because ios doesn't go through massive overhauls with every release and in this short attention span generation, people are getting restless. ios works. every single time. I'll take stability and a clean, uniform, organized interface over clunky widgets and customization any day. That's just me.

I'm running an android phone now and have been for the last 3 phones and I'm honestly trying to figure out why people say android is so fresh and new over iOS. The complaint I keep seeing is that iOS just looks like an app drawer, but besides widgets how is android different? My home screen has a clock on it but otherwise it's just rows and rows of apps on every other page. Isn't that what iOS has? After three android phones I'm clearing missing it so if someone could enlighten me please.

I've got the iP5 on pre order and from what I can tell I won't be losing much if anything from leaving android.

nba1341
Sep 19, 2012, 06:25 AM
Engadget ran a battery test on the iPhone 5 and it lasted more than 11 hours. Also the SunSpider JavaScript test released today by Anandtech shows that the iPhone 5 is 40% faster than the S III in this regard.

*On stock browser

They didn't say what browser exactly. Does samsung have their own ****** touchwiz browser? If so thats why

lavrishevo
Sep 19, 2012, 06:37 AM
Good to hear, I took this S3 off the charger at 100% at 6:30am, and by about 1:30 it was at like 20% and I wasn't continually using it, or watching vids or anything very intensive.

What kills the battery is the background task. Since the S3 actually runs apps in the background it will eat away at your battery life unless you optimize this. Juice Defender does help with this but you can manually disable a lot of this as well. I get excellent battery life but I have optimized my phone and I keep background data sucking apps to a minimum.

Dolorian
Sep 19, 2012, 06:49 AM
My S3 has been giving me excellent battery life. It lasts me the whole day in a single charge, when I get home at around 6pm it still has about 30% left. As mentioned, you need to adjust some settings (lower the brightness, turn off haptic feedback, turn off the system sounds, disable apps you don't use, etc) and you'll be fine.

KentuckyHouse
Sep 19, 2012, 08:30 AM
Good to hear, I took this S3 off the charger at 100% at 6:30am, and by about 1:30 it was at like 20% and I wasn't continually using it, or watching vids or anything very intensive.

You've got something going on, because this isn't normal. My S3 has FANTASTIC battery life. You've probably got an app that's gone "rogue" and is not letting the phone get into deep sleep. Install an app like Bettery Battery Stats or CPU Spy and see.

not as much as you do with rooting android

That's the thing...you don't even have to root the S3 to get amazing options out of it. If you do choose to root, you'll have even more options. Unrooted, the S3 has more options than any jailbroken iPhone I've had.

I'm running an android phone now and have been for the last 3 phones and I'm honestly trying to figure out why people say android is so fresh and new over iOS. The complaint I keep seeing is that iOS just looks like an app drawer, but besides widgets how is android different? My home screen has a clock on it but otherwise it's just rows and rows of apps on every other page. Isn't that what iOS has? After three android phones I'm clearing missing it so if someone could enlighten me please.

I've got the iP5 on pre order and from what I can tell I won't be losing much if anything from leaving android.

See, this is what I don't get. With Android, you don't HAVE to have rows and rows of app icons. For instance, my homescreen:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/kentuckyhouse/Screenshot_2012-09-19-09-20-23_zps911a3cdd.png

I'll point out that I'm unrooted, yet I'm still able to change my icons using an app called Icon Changer and one of the many icons packs available for free on the Play Store. I like to keep it simple and clean, so I have one row of icons on the bottom of each page. I like to be able to see my wallpaper and change it often. I also hate icon labels (the words below the icons that tell you what it is). Isn't that a bit redundant? Why do app developers spend time making individual icons for their apps to differentiate them from other apps and then you have to have words down there cluttering up the screen? I just think it's messy looking.

Look, Android isn't for everyone, I get that. And there are times I switch back to my 4S for a change. But time and again, I come back to my Android devices. It's just different and fun to play with.

Vegastouch
Sep 19, 2012, 08:50 AM
Go in settings, app management and disable things you won't use like chat on, s suggest, and such. Your battery life will be better. Dusavke all the bloatware and it will help

supervelous
Sep 19, 2012, 09:08 AM
You've got something going on, because this isn't normal. My S3 has FANTASTIC battery life. You've probably got an app that's gone "rogue" and is not letting the phone get into deep sleep. Install an app like Bettery Battery Stats or CPU Spy and see.



That's the thing...you don't even have to root the S3 to get amazing options out of it. If you do choose to root, you'll have even more options. Unrooted, the S3 has more options than any jailbroken iPhone I've had.



See, this is what I don't get. With Android, you don't HAVE to have rows and rows of app icons. For instance, my homescreen:

Image (http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/kentuckyhouse/Screenshot_2012-09-19-09-20-23_zps911a3cdd.png)

I'll point out that I'm unrooted, yet I'm still able to change my icons using an app called Icon Changer and one of the many icons packs available for free on the Play Store. I like to keep it simple and clean, so I have one row of icons on the bottom of each page. I like to be able to see my wallpaper and change it often. I also hate icon labels (the words below the icons that tell you what it is). Isn't that a bit redundant? Why do app developers spend time making individual icons for their apps to differentiate them from other apps and then you have to have words down there cluttering up the screen? I just think it's messy looking.

Look, Android isn't for everyone, I get that. And there are times I switch back to my 4S for a change. But time and again, I come back to my Android devices. It's just different and fun to play with.

I see you have a 4S and a Nexus and Galaxy S3, and have owned an HTC One X? How would you rank them if you could only own 1 device? I have an iphone 4 now and just got the Galaxy, have an iphone 5 coming in the mail, and my cousin has an HTC One X he tried to convince me to get over the S3, he loves it and he was an Apple guy before.

I am giving the S3 battery a second chance. I turned down the brightness to 50%. Also yesterday for about 30% of the day I had live wallpaper on because I was showing the phone off to some people at work who wanted to see it.

So today I have taken it off the charger at 8:30am and now at 10:05 its at 92% with light use, I guess not too bad but I'll see how it lasts throughout the day.

I still may end up going iphone for the imessage and Facetime factor, but that is personal to my situation. Almost all my friends and fam have iphones, and my daughter's mom who I am no longer with has an iphone and my daughter facetimes me often.

I guess i could use Google Voice to get around text charges (but sucks no MMS) and a third party app for vid calls like Tango...but Facetime is baked in, which makes it more likely to be used by my non tech-savy ex and my daughter.

cynics
Sep 19, 2012, 09:19 AM
I'm running an android phone now and have been for the last 3 phones and I'm honestly trying to figure out why people say android is so fresh and new over iOS. The complaint I keep seeing is that iOS just looks like an app drawer, but besides widgets how is android different? My home screen has a clock on it but otherwise it's just rows and rows of apps on every other page. Isn't that what iOS has? After three android phones I'm clearing missing it so if someone could enlighten me please.

I've got the iP5 on pre order and from what I can tell I won't be losing much if anything from leaving android.

You keep all the bloat in the app drawer on Android. On ios you have to try to hide it in a folder somewhere, like newsstand, compass, and all that junk.

On Android I don't even have all my apps on the home screen. Just the ones I use a lot, the rest I hide in the app drawer.

However the app drawer looks like iOS. Which is why people say that

WRXHokie
Sep 19, 2012, 09:23 AM
Good to hear, I took this S3 off the charger at 100% at 6:30am, and by about 1:30 it was at like 20% and I wasn't continually using it, or watching vids or anything very intensive.

Well one of two things is happening. Your phone has every setting on, a zillion background apps running,and thus is sucking battery life. OR You are lying. 7 hours of standby time is not enough to kill your battery. You are either a heavy user and lying about it, or your battery is just toast.

LTE sucks battery life, prepare for that iPhone users especially the ones that complained about the 4S battery, but the S3 has a big battery. I can go two days on a single charge with medium use, not much different than my iPhone 4.

KentuckyHouse
Sep 19, 2012, 10:19 AM
I see you have a 4S and a Nexus and Galaxy S3, and have owned an HTC One X? How would you rank them if you could only own 1 device? I have an iphone 4 now and just got the Galaxy, have an iphone 5 coming in the mail, and my cousin has an HTC One X he tried to convince me to get over the S3, he loves it and he was an Apple guy before.

I am giving the S3 battery a second chance. I turned down the brightness to 50%. Also yesterday for about 30% of the day I had live wallpaper on because I was showing the phone off to some people at work who wanted to see it.

So today I have taken it off the charger at 8:30am and now at 10:05 its at 92% with light use, I guess not too bad but I'll see how it lasts throughout the day.

I still may end up going iphone for the imessage and Facetime factor, but that is personal to my situation. Almost all my friends and fam have iphones, and my daughter's mom who I am no longer with has an iphone and my daughter facetimes me often.

I guess i could use Google Voice to get around text charges (but sucks no MMS) and a third party app for vid calls like Tango...but Facetime is baked in, which makes it more likely to be used by my non tech-savy ex and my daughter.

To address your last comments first, I definitely don't blame anyone for wanting a iPhone. Especially the 5. I never want to sound like I'm bashing the iPhone, as I obviously own one and love it. And I know, sometime in the next couple of months, once the hysteria has died down, I'll end up getting one. The one thing I've been asking for was a bit larger screen and now that they've got that, I'm sold. I also think the black 5 looks dead sexy.

And I don't blame anyone for wanting it for the proprietary things like Facetime over cellular. I have a friend that works in Texas 2 weeks out of every month and it's been invaluable for him to be able to stay in touch with his 5-year old son.

Ok...on to your questions...LOL. I'll try and keep this organized so as not to confuse anyone (or myself, for that matter!)

iPhone 4S: What can I say? It's a wonderful phone and I'm sure the 5 will be even better. I used it exclusively for 7 months until I got the Galaxy Nexus (I'd had a Galaxy S2 before this as my first adventure into Android). The only reason I wanted both platforms is that I get bored easily, and I'd noticed that I'd started to get bored with the 4S (even with it being jailbroken). So, that's why I keep both platforms...I get bored or tired of one, I switch for a while and all is well in the world. :D

Galaxy Nexus: My first "pure Android" experience. Heck, my first ICS experience as well. I had no idea how great ICS could be when you remove those stupid custom carrier skins. But ICS was nothing compared to when I got the Jellybean update. Holy cow! It's the first time I've used an Android phone where the fluidity and smoothness actually rivals my 4S. With that said, I'm an avid Apex Launcher user on my Android devices (because I like to be able to remove the icon labels...they just clutter up the screen too much for my tastes). If I had to recommend one Android phone above all others to someone, for the best all-around Android experience, the Nexus series would be it. I don't like the screen as much as my S3 (which I'll get to in a minute), but it's still very nice. One thing I've never found that great is the on-screen navigation buttons. It's not that I hate them...they're just different. Sometimes I like them...sometimes I don't. What I don't like is how they take up so much of the screen real estate. I know, they disappear when you're in certain things, but what they effectively do is turn a 4.65 inch screen into a 4.3 inch screen. It's definitely one of the things you have to get used to in Jellybean (although you can remove them or make them smaller with a custom ROM, so that's an option).

One X: This is the only phone I've used where the build quality actually rivals the iPhone. I've actually owned 2 of them. I got the first one before I got the S3 then sold it when I decided to keep the S3. But I missed it so I bought another one a week later. I actually like the latest version of Sense 4.0 as it's smooth and works well. But there were some quirks that I just couldn't deal with on either of the ones I had.

One of the biggest things for me on a phone nowadays is the quality of the camera. I use the camera literally every day in my job (some of my work involves inspecting and writing work orders to install road signage so I take pictures of locations that go with the work orders). The one thing I'd heard over and over about the HOX was that the camera was amazing. Lots of people on XDA say it's better than the 4S or S3 cameras, so I had high expectations. Unfortunately, neither camera lived up to them. I, for the life of me, couldn't take a picture that didn't have some sort of blur in any situation. Low light, bright sunlight...I could never get a great shot. I tried all kinds of different settings, but it just never worked for me. It was like I couldn't hold the phone steady enough to get a clear shot. And this happened on both HOX's I owned, so it wasn't just one particular phone. This was a deal-breaker for me and thus I sold the second phone as well.

Other than that, the HOX was a great phone. I didn't think the speaker volume was all that great, although you can tweak that with some apps from the Play Store.

Which brings me to my final phone...

Galaxy SIII: Probably the best all-around phone I've ever used. I would place it just ever so slightly in front of the 4S for a couple of reasons. The screen is just amazing...big, bold, and beautiful. There ARE times I feel like the phone is a bit TOO big, but those are few and far between. I also like the customization and I feel like the notifications are more well-done. It's easier to set them up and get them working how you like.

One thing that I use CONSTANTLY is the speaker phone. I'm in the truck a lot during the day and since I don't like using a bluetooth headset, the speaker phone is a must. The S3 finally has a speaker that rivals the 4S. The speaker on the GNex and HOX were awful...so low and distorted. But the S3 and 4S speakers are darn good. I do think the S3 speaker is better (louder/clearer), but they've said they improved the speaker on the iPhone 5, so I'm looking forward to seeing how good it is.

As a side note, I'm waiting until after Friday to see how iPhone 5 users feel about the screen. The one thing I've read for the last couple of years is how saturated Android screens are, how the colors aren't real looking. But now, Apple has stated that they've added 44% more saturation to the iPhone 5 screen and I want to see how this goes over. And it's noticeable too. In the side-by-side shots of the 5 vs. the 4S, you can definitely see more pronounced colors on the 5. This is going to sound like blasphemy around here, but the iPhone 5 screen looks much closer to an Android screen now and I'm wondering if people are now going to complain about it (or are they going to say Apple "does it right" and waited until they could implement it their way?) Time will tell.

So, if I had to pick one phone out of the 4 I've had lately, it would be the S3. But there's no denying the iPhone 5 is going to be amazing, either. Those two should be neck-in-neck over the next few months for me (at least until Google announces the next Nexus phone!)

sneaky butcher
Sep 19, 2012, 10:37 AM
jailbreak...honestly

you get almost unlimited customization with the benefit of ios.

you dont get any app developer made widgets on a jailbroken iphone. Practically every app for android that could use a widget in some way has one.

When i download a new app and it doesn't have a widget i feel disappointed. These days its extremely rare tho :)