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d_saum
Aug 18, 2005, 04:52 PM
Hey has anyone seen this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009VXAM0/ref=ord_cart_shr/102-3654918-1228104?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance)??? I dont think this is the final price, but if it was I would be AMAZED. This would totally squash the Xbox 360.



EvilDoc
Aug 18, 2005, 05:12 PM
iam at work, and the sites blocked :( .. how much is it??

tristan
Aug 18, 2005, 05:15 PM
$299. It looks gorgeous. Me likey.

EvilDoc
Aug 18, 2005, 05:26 PM
I Cant see how that could be the price.. they havent even confirmed the release date being this year or nexted.. but who knows.. does it say when it gonna ship??

Daveway
Aug 18, 2005, 05:27 PM
This has happened at Amazon before. I can't remember if their price was accurate.

applekid
Aug 18, 2005, 06:56 PM
I'm feeling it's just a placeholder. Sony said themselves the PS3 won't be cheap after all.

quackattack
Aug 18, 2005, 07:18 PM
$299 would sell alot. One to me for sure! Some how I doubt it, however.

saunders45
Aug 18, 2005, 08:42 PM
Not a chance. There is no way it will release at that. If so, Microsoft could just buy them all and bankrupt Sony since they would be taking an almost 50% loss. And even if it is a sony "leaked price" wouldn't suprise me one bit. before they lauched the PS2, at my old company they told our distributor that a $199 launch price was probable. It's bogus.

crachoar
Aug 18, 2005, 11:31 PM
Looks like the price has been pulled.

Mord
Aug 19, 2005, 05:39 AM
what is up with that, microsoft announces the xbox 360 will be $299 and people complain it costs too much, then sony announce the exact same price and people are all over it, i have never got sony fanboys.......

also the xbox 360 will probably have a price drop before the PS3 launches.

DavidLeblond
Aug 19, 2005, 01:10 PM
what is up with that, microsoft announces the xbox 360 will be $299 and people complain it costs too much, then sony announce the exact same price and people are all over it, i have never got sony fanboys.......

also the xbox 360 will probably have a price drop before the PS3 launches.

No, Microsoft announced the XBox 360 will be $399, and some worthless version of it will be $299.

AP_piano295
Aug 19, 2005, 02:59 PM
iam at work, and the sites blocked :( .. how much is it??

Ha they block sites at you job.
Seriously thats kinda not cool

AP_piano295
Aug 19, 2005, 03:03 PM
Has anyone herd about the possibility that the PS3 will not be launched untill 2007 :eek: something about them being able to sell the PS2 and 99$ and still make a profit and other such weirdness.

Cfly
Aug 19, 2005, 03:26 PM
Has anyone herd about the possibility that the PS3 will not be launched untill 2007 :eek: something about them being able to sell the PS2 and 99$ and still make a profit and other such weirdness.


its launching in like march 2006 most likely

Abulia
Aug 19, 2005, 03:30 PM
Has anyone herd about the possibility that the PS3 will not be launched untill 2007 :eek: something about them being able to sell the PS2 and 99$ and still make a profit and other such weirdness.Yea, I didn't put much stock in that until I heard it on XPlay last night. I presume they (XPlay) at least try to verify these rumors via their "insider knowledge" but 2007 seems awfully unlikely.

Abulia
Aug 19, 2005, 03:31 PM
Ha they block sites at you job.
Seriously thats kinda not coolIt's not about being "cool," it's about performance. Your job doesn't pay you to surf MacRumors and read up on the latest console news.

Or maybye they do…. :D

hpzine
Aug 19, 2005, 03:36 PM
after seeing the slimed down verson of the Ps2 i was impressed with the super small size i thought they would do something like this with the ps3 but guess not i think im gonna but the xbox 360 rather than the ps3 though

Chaszmyr
Aug 19, 2005, 03:37 PM
I think whoever at Amazon made this listing was simply being overzealous and jumping the gun.

Lord Blackadder
Aug 19, 2005, 03:52 PM
its launching in like march 2006 most likely

So what is it doing on Amazon? Isn't 7 months a little early even for pre-orders? :confused:

Mord
Aug 19, 2005, 03:56 PM
by that logic the PS3 is worthless too, no HD, no headset (not sure about the wireless controller but who is) i dont even bother trying to spout all the PS3 is twice as fast ********, it's ust as invalid as xbox 360 fanboys saying the xbox 360 is three times as fast as it has three 3.2GHz cpu's compared to the PS3's one

as an example the cells APU's are like advanced VMX units (altivec) and altivec boots the floating point performence more than four fold but real world performance only go's up two fold in the most altivec optimized situations (video encoding) and just adding 8 of the things wont make it 2^8 times faster.

all in all their is more to the picture than mere flot rateings and which company you like more or which console comes out last, they are pretty evenly matched.

Mord
Aug 19, 2005, 03:59 PM
iam at work, and the sites blocked :( .. how much is it??


go to google translate and translate from turkish to english on sites, that gets around every filter i have ever seen been blocked by.

iKwick7
Aug 19, 2005, 04:20 PM
It is DEFINATELY not #299. Sony themselves said it would not be priced for the average consumer.

I was putting down some more cash on my 360 yesterday, by the way, and the guy working there said that his rep told him it would be $399 to $499. I took that with a grain of salt, but I have always figured the PS3 would come in at around $500+.

Rovias
Aug 20, 2005, 04:19 PM
No, Microsoft announced the XBox 360 will be $399, and some worthless version of it will be $299.

You don't hide your Sony fanboyism very well.

The "worthless" version you describe is simply the console with a controller for $299. Sony first released the PS2 for the exact same price, with only a controller, for $299. In all probability, the PS3 will include the console and a controller, with no other bells and whistles, for more than $299. If your logic were true, no console would be worth buying.

So...bearing in mind that the "worthless" version of the 360 still plays games, and considering that's all most people need it to do...I think I'd rather pay the $299 for a 360, or even a Nintendo Revolution, than the $300+ price tag the PS3 is likely to carry.

ReanimationLP
Aug 20, 2005, 11:30 PM
No thanks.

I'd rather keep my soul.

I'd have to trade my soul to Ken Kuturagi to get it. lol. Hmm... soul... PS3... soul... PS3... decisions decisions.

:D

GFLPraxis
Aug 20, 2005, 11:36 PM
You don't hide your Sony fanboyism very well.

The "worthless" version you describe is simply the console with a controller for $299. Sony first released the PS2 for the exact same price, with only a controller, for $299. In all probability, the PS3 will include the console and a controller, with no other bells and whistles, for more than $299. If your logic were true, no console would be worth buying.

So...bearing in mind that the "worthless" version of the 360 still plays games, and considering that's all most people need it to do...I think I'd rather pay the $299 for a 360, or even a Nintendo Revolution, than the $300+ price tag the PS3 is likely to carry.

Even penny arcade calls it worthless...it's not a fanboy thing.

The "worthless" version of the 360 lacks backwards compatability (no hard drive = no old games), has slower loading times (no caching), AND the dinky memory card costs $40 (almost half the cost of just getting the better system).

Mord
Aug 21, 2005, 04:53 AM
it's no different bar the backwards compatibility, if you have old xbox games then you are likely to have an xbox to play them on so backwards compatibility is not that great a deal.

d_saum
Aug 21, 2005, 05:32 AM
it's no different bar the backwards compatibility, if you have old xbox games then you are likely to have an xbox to play them on so backwards compatibility is not that great a deal.

yeah but I think alot of people dont realize why backwards compatibility is so important. I have a ton of stuff next to my tv, so now, there's a nintendo gmaecube, a ps2, an xbox, then my receiver and other AV stuff. So if the core 360 isnt backwards compatible, I have to add another peice of equipment to my set up? Im also running out of inputs on the back of my tv.

Also, most people are on xbox because of xbox live, and that core system does not cut it for live, so I agree, its pretty much worthless when you look at the money you'd have to spend in accessories just for live and memory (hard drive or mem card).

And didnt they promise us all that crap right out of the box? Wireless controllers? hard drive? high def? ( you would think the cables would be included). I love my xbox and cant wait for the 360 but honestly, I do feel a little let down that the core is soooo stripped.

Mord
Aug 21, 2005, 05:49 AM
if your rich enough to have so much stuff stacked around your tv your rich enough to buy the 399 version, the point i'm trying to make is that ps3 owners cannot complain about it being worthless, because by their definition the PS3 would also be worthless, personally if a 3rd party came out with a HD caddy which was cheap i'd probably get the cheaper version as i already have a headset and wireless controllers are not that big of an issue to me.

GFLPraxis
Aug 21, 2005, 01:37 PM
RICH? Having a bunch of stuff by your TV does not make you rich. I'm certainly not rich, yet here I have a NES, SNES, Sega CDX (ultimate miniature Sega Genesis/CD combo), N64, and GameCube by my TV. If it weren't in another room I'd have a PS2 there too.

The Revolution would give me the ability to sell my GameCube as EVERY game, EVERY peripheral works, and it's even smaller than the original. I see not one reason to keep it. That means I get some extra cash (making the Revolution less expensive), and get more space by my TV. It also allows me to stash away my old systems as I can use the Revolution to play most of my old games.

Backwards compatability is very useful as it prevents a lot of wire-swapping every time you want to play an old game.

Abulia
Aug 21, 2005, 02:05 PM
Backwards compatability is very useful as it prevents a lot of wire-swapping every time you want to play an old game.Unnecessary wire-swapping. There are breakout boxes (one especially for gaming!) that let you select your input. I can plug in over 10 devices to my HDTV set, should I so choose.

I agree that backwards compatibility is a nice thing to have, but I wouldn't consider it a "defining" feature or major selling point.

I'll stay out of the "worthless" and "fanboy" arguement. :rolleyes:

GFLPraxis
Aug 21, 2005, 02:13 PM
It's definitely not a defining feature (lol, say that five times fast), I agree there, but it's a very useful thing to have. I care about it notably more than the multimedia features. For example, a PS3 gives me access to PS2 and PS1 games I may have missed. A Revolution would give me access to GameCube games I missed (except I probably have them all ;) ). An XBox 360 doesn't unless you buy the higher end model.

Again, it's not a defining feature. But the sheer amount of features the lower end model is missing...


Consider this.

To play a XBox 360 game, you have to pay at least $340. Not counting the game.

$300 for the console + $40 for the memory card.

To play an XBox 360 game ONLINE, you have to pay $365, not counting the game.

$300 for the console + $40 for the memory card + $20 for the headset + $5 for a month of XBox Live.


That's $365 for a VERY basic XBox 360, lacking all the multimedia functions, lacking the capability of playing XBox games, lacking the ability to download new maps (limiting the games you can join) or patches or the arcade games or use the marketplace, and with a wired controller. For just $40 more, you could just spend $405 and get EVERYTHING- wireless controllers, multimedia functions, backwards compatability, downloadable maps and patches and arcade games, nearly unlimited save space, a remote control, etc.

That's why I consider the lower model worthless. The price gap is so small all things considered ($40 in reality when you throw in the memory card and headset for basic play) yet the capabilities gap is so wide.

It's only good if you have, say, absolutely no access to an internet connection and never plan to play online or download anything in your life, and don't want wireless controllers.

Jovian9
Aug 21, 2005, 02:24 PM
Backwards compatability is very useful as it prevents a lot of wire-swapping every time you want to play an old game.

I agree. Between DVD players, cable/satellite digital/hd receivers, vcr's, stereo receivers, and cd players there is not enough room and not enough ports on a TV for more consoles. I have a $2000+ television and still wouldn't have enough ports for all this stuff. I want backwards compatibility. One Xbox is too big to have, why would anyone want 2 of those monsters next to each other (the Xbox and Xbox 360)?
The PS3 will cost more but will have blu-ray.....you get a gaming system and the ability to watch the high definition movies that will be coming out. The Revolution will be able to play Gamecube games and will allow you access to Nintendo's large history of games. The Xbox 360 will make you spend $100 more if you want to emulate Xbox games (emulate= backwards compatibility).
I will buy a Nintendo Revolution and I will buy a Sony PS3. These are systems that are providing you with more than just a nice power upgrade.

G5Unit
Aug 21, 2005, 02:27 PM
I perfer the old controllers

shadowmoses
Aug 21, 2005, 02:46 PM
I perfer the old controllers

Apparently the controllers are yet to be confirmed as the latest design it is more likely they will make the handles a bit shorter...

ShadOW ;)

Mord
Aug 21, 2005, 03:02 PM
Apparently the controllers are yet to be confirmed as the latest design it is more likely they will make the handles a bit shorter...

ShadOW ;)

the new ones look like some kind of lesbian love toy.....

G5Unit
Aug 21, 2005, 04:55 PM
the new ones look like some kind of lesbian love toy.....


Yeah I never owned and playstation but I like that they made the controllers backwards compatable.

1macker1
Sep 1, 2005, 05:54 PM
Ugh, i dont think being able to play XBOX games on the 360 is important, besides halo 2. Me and my friends tried to play a PS1 Madden game on the PS2, and it was was horrid. Slow play, horrible graphics, just all around bad.