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jimbo1mcm
Sep 22, 2012, 03:54 AM
Came back to the IP5 yesterday. Sold the S3 on Ebay in 2 minutes. I previously had an Ip4. The S3 is a nice phone, but I have a MBP and Ipad, so it is nice to be back in the EcoSystem!!!



Big.Mac.Daddy
Sep 22, 2012, 04:09 AM
We don't want android traitors like you back here! :mad:






Just kidding ;)

Welcome back :)

supervelous
Sep 22, 2012, 04:20 AM
Came back to the IP5 yesterday. Sold the S3 on Ebay in 2 minutes. I previously had an Ip4. The S3 is a nice phone, but I have a MBP and Ipad, so it is nice to be back in the EcoSystem!!!

Congrats!

Curious on why you chose the IP5 over the S3, if there are any reasons besides the ecosystem you are part of with your prior iphones and other Apple products.

I ask because I just bought an S3 alongside an IP5 and am going to use them both for 2-3 weeks and see which I like better. Hearing from those who have used both would be really helpful.

I am honestly sort of having more "fun" with the S3 in limited use so far...the widgets, the customizable homescreens, the NFC, bigger screen, the settings in the notification center dropdown, integration of Google Voice, etc. I am especially loving the widgets, as I have a social networking homepage with my FB and Twitter feeds, a "news" page with Yahoo News and Yahoo Finance feeds, a music homepage with widget music players for Spotify, Google Music and Pandora, a Sports page with score tickers and an espn video player..and they all run well without slowdown really.

I would really miss imessage, Facetime and the Apple app store. and I do love the design and weight of the new i5. Also I think the new i5's camera is amazing and the phone is more fluid and fast than the S3 it seems. Just a bit bored of the UI after all these years with an iphone. Seems a bit boring to use after experiencing an S3. Going from all this customization and fun widgets to rows of squares on a smaller screen.

jimbo1mcm
Sep 22, 2012, 04:45 AM
I think I had kind of gotten a little "bored" with IOS also, so when the S3 came out, I got it. One of the features I really liked on the S3 was voice to text for email and text messages. It was really accurate. I didn't have that on my Ip4. I also liked the widgets and the blue notification light plus the bigger screen. Make no mistake, the S3 is a wonderful phone. I had the 32GB plus a 32GB card. Why did I come back to the IP5? Well, the voice to text feature on Ip 5 is just about as good as the S3, although you have to wait a second to see what you say on the Ip5 vs instantaneous printing on the S3. The S3 was a little twitchy hooking up bluetooth in my car. It would hook up about 2 out of 5 times. I make a lot of car calls and my Ip4 hooked up all the time without any problems. I don't think the screen makes a lot of difference. Yes the screen is bigger in the S3 but the Ip5's screen is very clear, vibrant and is plenty big enough for me. I was familiar with both OS's, having a DroidX before my Ip4. There really isn't a whole lot of difference between the two phones. The S3 is plastic and the IP 5 is aluminum, but when I put the case on it, you really can't tell what it is made of. I do like being able to sync everything on my IP5 with my MBP and Ipad. The IP 5 processor is lightning fast, just as good or maybe even better than the Snapdragon S4. Enjoy both. Hope you end up with the one that works better for you.

nfl46
Sep 22, 2012, 04:53 AM
Congrats!

Curious on why you chose the IP5 over the S3, if there are any reasons besides the ecosystem you are part of with your prior iphones and other Apple products.

I ask because I just bought an S3 alongside an IP5 and am going to use them both for 2-3 weeks and see which I like better. Hearing from those who have used both would be really helpful.

I am honestly sort of having more "fun" with the S3 in limited use so far...the widgets, the customizable homescreens, the NFC, bigger screen, the settings in the notification center dropdown, integration of Google Voice, etc. I am especially loving the widgets, as I have a social networking homepage with my FB and Twitter feeds, a "news" page with Yahoo News and Yahoo Finance feeds, a music homepage with widget music players for Spotify, Google Music and Pandora, a Sports page with score tickers and an espn video player..and they all run well without slowdown really.

I would really miss imessage, Facetime and the Apple app store. and I do love the design and weight of the new i5. Also I think the new i5's camera is amazing and the phone is more fluid and fast than the S3 it seems. Just a bit bored of the UI after all these years with an iphone. Seems a bit boring to use after experiencing an S3. Going from all this customization and fun widgets to rows of squares on a smaller screen.

Straight out the box, the S3 will be a lot more fun but that will change once the jail beak is released for the iPhone 5. However, that will probably take months. Be mindful of that when making a decision. You'll be able to get widgets, etc soon on the iPhone 5.

Mintymintyfresh
Sep 22, 2012, 04:54 AM
I had been an iPhone user since the first one. I got bored of IOS, so I switched to S3 a few days ago – the verdict: I’m going to take it back to get iPhone 5. Here’s why:

1. S3 is too big. I thought I wanted a big screen that’s why I switched. However I like to use maps while driving and holding the phone in one hand. It’s very unwieldy to hold it in one hand (eventhough I have larger than average hands).

2. The battery runs out fast. I have been charging it twice a day.

3. Email looks terrible on Android. You can not zoom out to see the full HTML email. You have to pan around even though the screen is huge. I tried various Mail apps and they all suck.

3. Colors are way too saturated that it hurts my eyes.

4. Auto-Brightness set the brightness too low. I have to turn it to manual (brighter). But then it drains battery like crazy.

5. Auto-Correct is terrible. I have so many mispelling since I switch over to S3.

6. Finger stain/grease seems to affect the visibility of the screen. I think it might be the Pentile screen – it creates a moire/rainbow effect. I have to clean my screen constantly. Test it on an 4S phone and it doesn’t have this problem.

7. Overall interface is not as solid or streamlined as apple. Very inconsistent. The design is all over the place – and interface/fonts is unique for each app. A very chaotic experience.

Overall. I believe that phones are small for a reason. Tablets can take over when you need a bigger screen. I love that the S3 is great with the expendable Mini-SD slot and swappable battery but I can do without these things. I need a solid and reliable experience – even if that means it’s a little boring.

Apple design’s philosophy is similar to BMW’s. Design a classic and stick to it, and overtime it just has more value. American cars company’s philosophy is like Android – disposable design – onto the next. But in the end, it doesn’t have much resonance and longevity.

And for the IOS Maps problems, Google will release their app for IOS any day now. Problem solved.

milk242
Sep 22, 2012, 05:30 AM
It is so hard to leave an ecosystem these days or even have different products from different companies because all the big players these days are focusing on their ecosystem.

supervelous
Sep 22, 2012, 10:47 AM
I had been an iPhone user since the first one. I got bored of IOS, so I switched to S3 a few days ago – the verdict: I’m going to take it back to get iPhone 5. Here’s why:

1. S3 is too big. I thought I wanted a big screen that’s why I switched. However I like to use maps while driving and holding the phone in one hand. It’s very unwieldy to hold it in one hand (eventhough I have larger than average hands).

2. The battery runs out fast. I have been charging it twice a day.

3. Email looks terrible on Android. You can not zoom out to see the full HTML email. You have to pan around even though the screen is huge. I tried various Mail apps and they all suck.


3. Colors are way too saturated that it hurts my eyes.

4. Auto-Brightness set the brightness too low. I have to turn it to manual (brighter). But then it drains battery like crazy.

5. Auto-Correct is terrible. I have so many mispelling since I switch over to S3.

6. Finger stain/grease seems to affect the visibility of the screen. I think it might be the Pentile screen – it creates a moire/rainbow effect. I have to clean my screen constantly. Test it on an 4S phone and it doesn’t have this problem.

7. Overall interface is not as solid or streamlined as apple. Very inconsistent. The design is all over the place – and interface/fonts is unique for each app. A very chaotic experience.

Overall. I believe that phones are small for a reason. Tablets can take over when you need a bigger screen. I love that the S3 is great with the expendable Mini-SD slot and swappable battery but I can do without these things. I need a solid and reliable experience – even if that means it’s a little boring.

Apple design’s philosophy is similar to BMW’s. Design a classic and stick to it, and overtime it just has more value. American cars company’s philosophy is like Android – disposable design – onto the next. But in the end, it doesn’t have much resonance and longevity.

And for the IOS Maps problems, Google will release their app for IOS any day now. Problem solved.

I have both right now, S3 for a few days. I agree with a lot of what you said.

1. I personally like the screen size, except that I can't reach top of screen with my thumb, but got i5 and found i also cannot reach anymore either. Big screens are curses in some way and blessings in others. I love web surfing and video watching on S3.

2. Agreed, today I am using both, unplugged from charger about an hour ago, both at 100%, going to compare the batteries today, try and use them about equally

3. AGREED - the mail app is bad, some emails I can't even read. I use Gmail and Yahoo so downloaded their apps and check them separately, but on ios the mail app is so good I don't have to do that

3a. I do think the colors are a bit oversaturated, but the screen still looks very nice, and it definitely doesn't hurt my eyes. It's still a very sharp screen with good contrast. Overall the i5 screen is sharper, wish I could see the iphones display in a S3 size.

4. Agreed, but then again I don't use auto brightness on the iphone either, never have on any device

5. In general the keyboard on S3 is not as good as the iphone, agreed. Although you can get 3rd party ones to replace it, I got one called Swiftkey that's much better, possibly even with the ios one.

6. Haven't noticed this one

7. Agree the interface isn't as uniform, hate how different apps can be different sizes, a no-no design wise. But I also feel what they lack in polish in the OS they make up for in flexibility and "fun".

Even with agreeing with many of your points (as I read it I was nodding my head mostly), I am finding the S3 more fun to use thus far - the customization, widgets, face unlock (gimmicky i know but cool), NFC.

I integrated Google Voice with my messages app, so I am sending and receiving messages for free with no need for a SMS plan, but within the stock messaging app of the phone - I have done this with ios, but it requires a jailbreak.

Although I am having more fun with the S3 now, I am sure some of that has to do with the fact it's more fresh to me, I've been using nothing but iphone for 4 years.

Which is why I am using both of them for a month before I decide, doing tests, etc.

For example, today I am testing the batteries against each other. Yesterday I ran speedtests on both on LTE next to each other. I also ran a geekbench at the same time (Iphone 5 1630, S3 1050).

I am going to be as objective as possible I hope, I have no loyalty to any company, only to myself to end up with the best phone for me.

And actually I am leaning towards iphone right now. I have more fun with S3 right now, but my 7 year old daughter who I don't live with Facetimes me - trumps everything else. Also love the new iphone's design and feel, the camera is superior, Siri is better than the S3's voice capability, the app store is better, I like Itunes match and icloud, etc.

I just find rows of apps boring at this point. The entire iphone GUI = the S3's app drawer.

BrianSoCal
Sep 22, 2012, 10:58 AM
Really enjoying the hands on S3/IP5 comparisons, more please!!:D

iosuser
Sep 22, 2012, 11:05 AM
Like you I grew a bit tired of iOS and went and bought the S3, I've been using iPhones since 3GS. I sold my 4S couple months ago when I switched to the S3. I held onto the 4S for 2-3 weeks before I got comfortable enough with the S3 before I sold it. Going from iOS to Android can be a jarring experience. I think many people will give up and go back to iOS. Once I got used to the S3/Android, some things I do with the S3 now it's hard to go back to iOS, the back button is a big one. Some things done with a single tap on the back button can take 6 steps on iOS. Being able to store multiple items in the clipboard also makes life much easier when composing some emails. I love being able to choose my own camera controls on the camera app - I ditched all the default buttons and put my own most used buttons in the camera. On the iPhone you have zero ability to change anything in the camera (picture size, metering mode, how about burst). Many little things like these you won't learn to appreciate until you've given it enough time. I don't know if it's Android itself or the S3, but yes the S3 is definitely more glitchy than iOS.

BUT, I miss many of the apps I've bought from the Apple app store, so I've been looking for good deals on a used 4S. Yesterday I bought a mint month-old 4S from a local guy who just took delivery of his 5. iOS (still on 5.1.1) is definitely more polished than the S3, general OS operation is consistently silky smooth, but I was surprised how laggy it was scrolling and browsing a long web page which the S3 just breezed through.

Yes at times I feel the S3 is a bit big, but after picking up another 4S I remember why I wanted the big screen. Look at the screen shot. It is a trade off for sure.

I don't know what happened, but my S3's battery life has improved since about a month ago. For the first month I felt it was worse than the 4S, now it is at least equal if not better. One day this week I had 4.5hrs screen time out of 15hrs total since a full charge and it still had >20%. When I travel to NYC where there's LTE coverage, oh yeah the battery drops pretty quick, constantly running Speedtest to marvel at the awesome LTE speeds certainly didn't help :p I'm guessing you have constant LTE coverage?

The iPhone 5 is almost as saturated as the S3 is now, and all of a sudden it's a great thing on the iPhone 5 :rolleyes: The 4S looks washed out in comparison. But yes I agree somewhere between the 4S and S3 would be preferable, and I guess that'd be the iPhone 5 :p

Yes auto brighness is terrible on the S3, and I think it was a dumb move to have a separate brightness setting just for the browser. Well there was an update a few days ago, now I can change the brightness from the notification screen and it did away with the separate browser brightness setting. At least adjustting the brightness now is only a swipe away.

Oh yes I hate so much that you cannot zoom in email, not just the stock email app but even the dedicated Yahoo mail app is the same way. The result is that even with the much bigger screen and resolution, it shows about the same content as the 4S. This was one of the reason I bought another iPhone.

Seriously I would really love to go back to the iPhone for the beautiful apps, but it's hard to go back after I'm used to the big screen to browse the web and the back button. I'll just be switching back and forth between them for now..

I had been an iPhone user since the first one. I got bored of IOS, so I switched to S3 a few days ago – the verdict: I’m going to take it back to get iPhone 5. Here’s why:

1. S3 is too big. I thought I wanted a big screen that’s why I switched. However I like to use maps while driving and holding the phone in one hand. It’s very unwieldy to hold it in one hand (eventhough I have larger than average hands).

2. The battery runs out fast. I have been charging it twice a day.

3. Email looks terrible on Android. You can not zoom out to see the full HTML email. You have to pan around even though the screen is huge. I tried various Mail apps and they all suck.

3. Colors are way too saturated that it hurts my eyes.

4. Auto-Brightness set the brightness too low. I have to turn it to manual (brighter). But then it drains battery like crazy.

5. Auto-Correct is terrible. I have so many mispelling since I switch over to S3.

6. Finger stain/grease seems to affect the visibility of the screen. I think it might be the Pentile screen – it creates a moire/rainbow effect. I have to clean my screen constantly. Test it on an 4S phone and it doesn’t have this problem.

7. Overall interface is not as solid or streamlined as apple. Very inconsistent. The design is all over the place – and interface/fonts is unique for each app. A very chaotic experience.

Overall. I believe that phones are small for a reason. Tablets can take over when you need a bigger screen. I love that the S3 is great with the expendable Mini-SD slot and swappable battery but I can do without these things. I need a solid and reliable experience – even if that means it’s a little boring.

Apple design’s philosophy is similar to BMW’s. Design a classic and stick to it, and overtime it just has more value. American cars company’s philosophy is like Android – disposable design – onto the next. But in the end, it doesn’t have much resonance and longevity.

And for the IOS Maps problems, Google will release their app for IOS any day now. Problem solved.

Pompiliu
Sep 22, 2012, 11:07 AM
But...the S3 is quadcore and has ShareShot....

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 22, 2012, 11:31 AM
On the GS3, I'm able to zoom all the way out by pinching in and doing the opposite to zoom out using the stock email app.

You guys must be talking about the gmail app, which sucks and I don't use. But the stock email app was mentioned, so I don't know what your talking about. :confused:

joshwithachance
Sep 22, 2012, 11:45 AM
I have both right now, S3 for a few days. I agree with a lot of what you said.

1. I personally like the screen size, except that I can't reach top of screen with my thumb, but got i5 and found i also cannot reach anymore either. Big screens are curses in some way and blessings in others. I love web surfing and video watching on S3.

2. Agreed, today I am using both, unplugged from charger about an hour ago, both at 100%, going to compare the batteries today, try and use them about equally

3. AGREED - the mail app is bad, some emails I can't even read. I use Gmail and Yahoo so downloaded their apps and check them separately, but on ios the mail app is so good I don't have to do that

3a. I do think the colors are a bit oversaturated, but the screen still looks very nice, and it definitely doesn't hurt my eyes. It's still a very sharp screen with good contrast. Overall the i5 screen is sharper, wish I could see the iphones display in a S3 size.

4. Agreed, but then again I don't use auto brightness on the iphone either, never have on any device

5. In general the keyboard on S3 is not as good as the iphone, agreed. Although you can get 3rd party ones to replace it, I got one called Swiftkey that's much better, possibly even with the ios one.

6. Haven't noticed this one

7. Agree the interface isn't as uniform, hate how different apps can be different sizes, a no-no design wise. But I also feel what they lack in polish in the OS they make up for in flexibility and "fun".

Even with agreeing with many of your points (as I read it I was nodding my head mostly), I am finding the S3 more fun to use thus far - the customization, widgets, face unlock (gimmicky i know but cool), NFC.

I integrated Google Voice with my messages app, so I am sending and receiving messages for free with no need for a SMS plan, but within the stock messaging app of the phone - I have done this with ios, but it requires a jailbreak.

Although I am having more fun with the S3 now, I am sure some of that has to do with the fact it's more fresh to me, I've been using nothing but iphone for 4 years.

Which is why I am using both of them for a month before I decide, doing tests, etc.

For example, today I am testing the batteries against each other. Yesterday I ran speedtests on both on LTE next to each other. I also ran a geekbench at the same time (Iphone 5 1630, S3 1050).

I am going to be as objective as possible I hope, I have no loyalty to any company, only to myself to end up with the best phone for me.

And actually I am leaning towards iphone right now. I have more fun with S3 right now, but my 7 year old daughter who I don't live with Facetimes me - trumps everything else. Also love the new iphone's design and feel, the camera is superior, Siri is better than the S3's voice capability, the app store is better, I like Itunes match and icloud, etc.

I just find rows of apps boring at this point. The entire iphone GUI = the S3's app drawer.

This is one of the main reasons I switched, and am still loving my S3. It's a bit scary at first and Android is still a tad glitchy, but there are so many benefits to the S3 over the iPhone 5.

daveathall
Sep 22, 2012, 11:57 AM
On the GS3, I'm able to zoom all the way out by pinching in and doing the opposite to zoom out using the stock email app.

You guys must be talking about the gmail app, which sucks and I don't use. But the stock email app was mentioned, so I don't know what your talking about. :confused:

I agree. Not had a problem with zooming in and out on stock e mail app.

Sensamic
Sep 22, 2012, 12:29 PM
The biggest problem of the SGS3 is the home screen redraws. It gets really annoying.

I installed CM10 and no more redraws, but battery life is worse than on stock.

This kind is things really annoy me. Imagine you would have to wait 5 seconds for the home screen to reload like 5 times every day, and it looks like Samsung won't fix it.

WI-FI is also much worse than on my previous iPhone 4 and current iPad 1. And I mean horrible WI-FI.

KnightMan
Sep 22, 2012, 12:31 PM
Well my buddy just picked up a Galaxy S3. He actually stood in line for the iPhone 5. It took just a day before he realized the phone just wasn't what he wanted. For him the screen wasn't the upgrade he was looking for. He's coming from a BB Torch with a 3.7 inch screen, and the 4 inch screen just didn't offer the browsing experience he wanted. He thought it just look oddly long. But he did say the phone felt cheap like some Chinese knock off of a real iPhone. And I must admit, after holding it myself, there is something I just can't put my finger on, but the thing does feel kind of.... well I won't say cheap, but it didn't feel expensive or premium the way Apple users usually have said about Apple products. And I couldn't shake the feeling that it would easily break if I wasn't extremely delicate with it. I'm still trying to decide myself what I want as it will be the overall experience of the phone that determines what I chose. That being said, the GS3 did feel very substantial and solid as a phone when I handled it. I think in terms of weight, Samsung have got it just right (in respect to the 4.8 screen that is.) After my next phone, I won't be upgrading for another 3 yrs, so I want to get it right. We've both been longtime BB users, so I will be going with a lot by his words as he explores Android. So far he's amazed with what it can do in terms of....well everything.

Vegastouch
Sep 22, 2012, 12:57 PM
The biggest problem of the SGS3 is the home screen redraws. It gets really annoying.

I installed CM10 and no more redraws, but battery life is worse than on stock.

This kind is things really annoy me. Imagine you would have to wait 5 seconds for the home screen to reload like 5 times every day, and it looks like Samsung won't fix it.

WI-FI is also much worse than on my previous iPhone 4 and current iPad 1. And I mean horrible WI-FI.

I dont have that problem so i cant relate to what you mean. It just refreshes randomly? Not sure what you mean by a redraw since i havent noticed it.

EDIT* Looking at the post below my last post, ...are you using TouchWiz? I dont use TouchWiz so maybe thats why i dont have that problem. I use Apex and Nova. Apex 80% of the time.

For those saying the battery isnt good(the guys who have had it only a few days), go in your apps management and disable bloatware you wont use like Chat On, S Suggest, Bonus apps if you have that,and All Share play and whatever else there is you dont want. If it doesnt have a disable choice, you have to undo the updates first to be able to disable if you have updated those apps.

Also in S Voice, click on it and go into settings and uncheck 'Launch S Voice" .
Do those things and your battery will be MUCH better. I know it takes 5 minutes to do this but it is worth it. Once you get things dialed in on the GS3, imo it is a much better experience than iOS.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 22, 2012, 12:57 PM
The biggest problem of the SGS3 is the home screen redraws. It gets really annoying.

I installed CM10 and no more redraws, but battery life is worse than on stock.

This kind is things really annoy me. Imagine you would have to wait 5 seconds for the home screen to reload like 5 times every day, and it looks like Samsung won't fix it.

WI-FI is also much worse than on my previous iPhone 4 and current iPad 1. And I mean horrible WI-FI.

Why do you have Homescreen redraws so bad? I might get a redraw 3 times a day at the most and it's only for a split second that's noticeable to the eye. No way have I experienced 5 second redraws or redraws on such a frequent basis. Maybe it's certain widgets that make things worst?

Vegastouch
Sep 22, 2012, 01:01 PM
I agree. Not had a problem with zooming in and out on stock e mail app.

I dont have this problem either. I use the stock mail client with my Yahoo. It worked so well i deleted the Yahoo app.

blackhand1001
Sep 22, 2012, 01:05 PM
The biggest problem of the SGS3 is the home screen redraws. It gets really annoying.

I installed CM10 and no more redraws, but battery life is worse than on stock.

This kind is things really annoy me. Imagine you would have to wait 5 seconds for the home screen to reload like 5 times every day, and it looks like Samsung won't fix it.

WI-FI is also much worse than on my previous iPhone 4 and current iPad 1. And I mean horrible WI-FI.

You can always run stock with nova launcher or apex launcher.

Stropaganda
Sep 22, 2012, 01:13 PM
You can always run stock with nova launcher or apex launcher.

+1 for Nova Launcher. That's what I use and it runs smooth as butter with no redraws. That's why I don't have CM10 or ParanoidAndroid. Just pure Google, man.

Sincci
Sep 22, 2012, 01:13 PM
The redraw bug is actually fixed for me with the latest JB leak (XXDLI8). I think the reason might be due to the fact that JB does have more memory available for the user (4.0.4 has something like 779MB, 4.1.1 833MB).

Renzatic
Sep 22, 2012, 01:43 PM
We don't want android traitors like you back here! :mad:

YEAH! :mad:

Just kidding ;)

Welcome back :)

...oh.

-puts up pitchfork

Eriatarka
Sep 22, 2012, 01:49 PM
Mintymintyfresh: interesting post and I agree with some of your points (especially about the S3 being too big, and the iPhone just being overall better hardware) but I think some of what you said is wrong and shows a lack of experience with Android (understandable, since Android does need some customization in order to make it work at its best)


2. The battery runs out fast. I have been charging it twice a day.Samsung phones have removable batteries. A spare S3 battery costs less than $20 and is light enough to carry around. This is one of the big advantages of Android phones over iPhone; an android with a spare battery will give you far more life than an iPhone

Email looks terrible on Android. You can not zoom out to see the full HTML email. You have to pan around even though the screen is huge. I tried various Mail apps and they all suck.There are many different Android email clients; if you dont like the stock one then there are other options. And who sends HTML email anyway? I only ever get these in spam mails that I dont want.


5. Auto-Correct is terrible. I have so many mispelling since I switch over to S3.The stock Android keyboard isnt great, but the keyboard can be repalced with Swiftkey, which is amazing. Imo swiftkey is the best keyboard on any mobile device, and better than both stock android, and the iphone. I think this is one of the major points in Android's favor.


7. Overall interface is not as solid or streamlined as apple. Very inconsistent. The design is all over the place – and interface/fonts is unique for each app. A very chaotic experience.
This is true, the iphone is more integrated since Android is many different componetns working together. However one area where Android phones are more integrated than the iphone is the hardware backbutton. The lack of one on the iphone really irritates me; different apps put the soft back button in different places, and if you have (eg) used an app to open an attachment in an email then you cant just press 'back' and go straight back to the email.


Overall, I think the choice between android and iphone is a straight tradeoff between better apps and a phone that feels much nicer in your hand (iphone) versus a more powerful, flexible, and customizable OS(android). The iphone5 is gorgeous and I really want one, but there are just too many annoying things about iOS for me personally.

Sensamic
Sep 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
I dont have that problem so i cant relate to what you mean. It just refreshes randomly? Not sure what you mean by a redraw since i havent noticed it.

EDIT* Looking at the post below my last post, ...are you using TouchWiz? I dont use TouchWiz so maybe thats why i dont have that problem. I use Apex and Nova. Apex 80% of the time.

For those saying the battery isnt good(the guys who have had it only a few days), go in your apps management and disable bloatware you wont use like Chat On, S Suggest, Bonus apps if you have that,and All Share play and whatever else there is you dont want. If it doesnt have a disable choice, you have to undo the updates first to be able to disable if you have updated those apps.

Also in S Voice, click on it and go into settings and uncheck 'Launch S Voice" .
Do those things and your battery will be MUCH better. I know it takes 5 minutes to do this but it is worth it. Once you get things dialed in on the GS3, imo it is a much better experience than iOS.

The home screen reloads happens with Touchwiz. Its kind of a serious bug on what is suppose to be Samsungs flagship phone. You would never see something like this on iOS or WP8. Not even stock Android of the Nexus.

Im not criticizing Android here. Im criticizing Samsung. Android is awesome.

Anyway, I already rooted and have found several solutions: a ROM like Omega, CM9 or 10 or use Titanium Backup to freeze Touchwiz and use Nova or Apex.

Theres no perfect phone. HOX has wifi problems, Nexus bad battery life, SGS3 the home screen reloads and bad wifi for me (it disconnects on its own and then connects again several times a day), etc. These are not hardware problems, but rather software problems, due to Samsung ********* pure android.

Maybe some people havent noticed this, but on touchwiz theres not even a spell checker! I installed CM9 and 10 and on stock android there is. Im talking about the red line that appears under a mispelled word, just like on iOS.

Can someone please tell me why Samsung would do this?? I need a spell checker for emails, notes, etc. Its so stupid from Samsung to do this that just proves my hate for them.

Thats why my next phone will probably be a Nexus.

You can always run stock with nova launcher or apex launcher.

The reloads happen specially if you have many widgets. The Samsung Weather widget is the one that makes the redraws happen more often. But whats the point of having widgets if you cant have more than 4 or 5 to avoid many screen reloads?

Also let me say stock android keyboard is awesome. Much better than stock iOS. After trying it on CM10 you can see how BAD samsungs keyboard is.

Android has many benefits, but also some drawbacks. Widgets eat battery faster, but also many background processes. I hated iOS multitasking before, but now I really think is the best way to go. If you install many apps on android there can be so many background processes eating battery life without you knowing it.

I also miss the lockscreen iOS notifications, and how they show more información than on Android. Still, iOS is really lacking. It would be awesome if Apple included a swype-like feature on iOS 6.1 or 7.

Android is better than iOS, but iOS wins in some basic stuff: battery, multitasking, notifications, etc.
Android wins in keyboards, customization, the AWESOME back button, widgets, ability to jailbreak (root) easily always (and not waiting months for a jailbreak only to be pointless after the next Apple update. I hated that cat and mouse game), file browser, etc.

Vegastouch
Sep 22, 2012, 03:22 PM
The home screen reloads happens with Touchwiz. Its kind of a serious bug on what is suppose to be Samsungs flagship phone. You would never see something like this on iOS or WP8. Not even stock Android of the Nexus.

Im not criticizing Android here. Im criticizing Samsung. Android is awesome.

Anyway, I already rooted and have found several solutions: a ROM like Omega, CM9 or 10 or use Titanium Backup to freeze Touchwiz and use Nova or Apex.

Theres no perfect phone. HOX has wifi problems, Nexus bad battery life, SGS3 the home screen reloads and bad wifi for me (it disconnects on its own and then connects again several times a day), etc. These are not hardware problems, but rather software problems, due to Samsung ********* pure android.

Maybe some people havent noticed this, but on touchwiz theres not even a spell checker! I installed CM9 and 10 and on stock android there is. Im talking about the red line that appears under a mispelled word, just like on iOS.

Can someone please tell me why Samsung would do this?? I need a spell checker for emails, notes, etc. Its so stupid from Samsung to do this that just proves my hate for them.

Thats why my next phone will probably be a Nexus.



The reloads happen specially if you have many widgets. The Samsung Weather widget is the one that makes the redraws happen more often. But whats the point of having widgets if you cant have more than 4 or 5 to avoid many screen reloads?

Also let me say stock android keyboard is awesome. Much better than stock iOS. After trying it on CM10 you can see how BAD samsungs keyboard is.

Android has many benefits, but also some drawbacks. Widgets eat battery faster, but also many background processes. I hated iOS multitasking before, but now I really think is the best way to go. If you install many apps on android there can be so many background processes eating battery life without you knowing it.

I also miss the lockscreen iOS notifications, and how they show more información than on Android. Still, iOS is really lacking. It would be awesome if Apple included a swype-like feature on iOS 6.1 or 7.

Android is better than iOS, but iOS wins in some basic stuff: battery, multitasking, notifications, etc.
Android wins in keyboards, customization, the AWESOME back button, widgets, ability to jailbreak (root) easily always (and not waiting months for a jailbreak only to be pointless after the next Apple update. I hated that cat and mouse game), file browser, etc.

Well maybe not but you dont have to use TW either and imo, its not as good as Apex or Nova. But to counter, Samsung would probably not release a phone with a really horrible Maps or bluetooth that dont steam your music without hiccups. iOS 6 has its issues this time around so you cant say you would never see something like that on iOS anymore.

At least you have a quick and easy fix for your problem that doesnt require anything but a App download instead of installing a whole new ROM but for some reason you choose not to use it. There are also other keyboards you can use. I dont know why you arent taking advantage of these things.

I dont have issues with my Wi-Fi either. Stays on till i turn it off manually or by using my NFC tag.

Mrg02d
Sep 22, 2012, 05:14 PM
Face it, you are just excited about the newness and sleekness of the ip5. The gs3 is much more useful, ESPECIALLY with google maps! I really don't understand all this ecosystem talk?

ChrisTX
Sep 22, 2012, 06:01 PM
Came back to the IP5 yesterday. Sold the S3 on Ebay in 2 minutes. I previously had an Ip4. The S3 is a nice phone, but I have a MBP and Ipad, so it is nice to be back in the EcoSystem!!!

Just curious, if you don't mind me asking. How much did you get for your GSIII? I switched in June to the SIII, and I'm not entirely blown away like I thought I would be. However I'm going to wait for Jelly Bean which is rumored in October before I make my choice. I think all of the problems I have with the SIII are due to the inconsistencies with the software, and TouchWiz. You have to really tinker with this phone to get it to "just work" like the iPhone. Not sure yet if that's a good thing or not. The screen is massive, but other than movies, and the Chrome app, a lot of apps don't take full advantage of it. They're just blown up versions without added functionality. Sorry for the rant. :cool:

3bs
Sep 22, 2012, 06:06 PM
Just curious, if you don't mind me asking. How much did you get for your GSIII? I switched in June to the SIII, and I'm not entirely blown away like I thought I would be. However I'm going to wait for Jelly Bean which is rumored in October before I make my choice. I think all of the problems I have with the SIII are due to the inconsistencies with the software, and TouchWiz. You have to really tinker with this phone to get it to "just work" like the iPhone. Not sure yet if that's a good thing or not. The screen is massive, but other than movies, and the Chrome app, a lot of apps don't take full advantage of it. They're just blown up versions without added functionality. Sorry for the rant. :cool:

Have you considered flashing a custom Jelly Bean ROM?

ChrisTX
Sep 22, 2012, 06:12 PM
Have you considered flashing a custom Jelly Bean ROM?

I have, but I'm an Android n00b, and don't want to brick my phone. Second it seems like daily upgrades(correct me if I'm wrong) would be a big hassle.

3bs
Sep 22, 2012, 06:29 PM
I have, but I'm an Android n00b, and don't want to brick my phone. Second it seems like daily upgrades(correct me if I'm wrong) would be a big hassle.

I'm pretty much a noob too but I've managed so far. I understand why you're worried because I still am too but it's worth it and I'm learning as I go along. Yes if you want new features and bug fixes you'll be flashing more often but it depends on the ROM. I'm on Paranoid Android ROM and it's not daily and even if it is I could not flash the updates because the build I'm on now seems perfect.

Quu
Sep 22, 2012, 06:39 PM
I was considering the S3 before the iPhone 5 came out. I was lets say bored of iOS and I envied my friends customization of his phone and the multitasking capability it has.

So I tried his Desire HD for a while to get my feet wet in the Android ecosystem and then I tried a Galaxy S3 in a shop. Now admittedly trying it in a shop for 20 minutes isn't going to mean I know everything about the device but at the same time I'd think within 20 minutes I should be wow'd by at-least a few things it could do.

That just didn't happen for me. To me it felt like when you try a linux distribution. It looks nice on the surface but once you actually use it there is this almost hollowness to it like the developers have done only the bare minimum that is necessary to complete a list of objectives and paid little care or attention to consistency or quality.

Many of the apps used different fonts from each other which felt inconsistent and the default Samsung apps were very basic, didn't really look that nice and some just didn't work correctly. I tried the video overlay function which worked quite nice actually but I thought is this really something I'd use? I just can't see it.

I know this sounds totally cliché coming from an Apple user like myself but it didn't feel as good as what Apple is doing. It is hard to put my finger on the exact issue but it's more a culmination of the whole package. I think Android might get there one day where it is consistent enough to be a real competitor for me but right now it isn't.

So in the end I decided to get the iPhone 5 and I don't regret that decision because although I still don't have the customization I'd like, I can just jailbreak it later on (something I've not done since my old iPhone 3GS) and customize to my hearts content while staying within Apples plentiful ecosystem.

And when I say ecosystem I'm not just talking about the range of applications but the quality of those applications and the consistent experience provided by them. Most apps follow the same HIG as apples own apps and it really makes the whole experience feel more cohesive.

Sensamic
Sep 22, 2012, 07:28 PM
Well maybe not but you dont have to use TW either and imo, its not as good as Apex or Nova. But to counter, Samsung would probably not release a phone with a really horrible Maps or bluetooth that dont steam your music without hiccups. iOS 6 has its issues this time around so you cant say you would never see something like that on iOS anymore.

At least you have a quick and easy fix for your problem that doesnt require anything but a App download instead of installing a whole new ROM but for some reason you choose not to use it. There are also other keyboards you can use. I dont know why you arent taking advantage of these things.

I dont have issues with my Wi-Fi either. Stays on till i turn it off manually or by using my NFC tag.

Before rooting of course I tried both nova and apex, but still the home screen reload was there. Less often, but still there.

Like I've said before, the good thing about android is that you can change almost everything. But the bad thing is having to deal with this stupid things.

You haven't told me why Samsung has disabled spell checking. What good is it to buy an android phone other than nexus when these companies disable core stuff of android. It's crazy. Really really crazy not to have this feature, which is another BIG reason why I'm using CM10 instead of nova or apex with the stock Samsung Rom.

And I'm not talking about bad apps, like Apple maps or another one. I'm talking about the core basic functionality of the phone. On the SGS3 you have the home screen reload and the lack of spell checking.

A bad app is not a huge problem. Those two examples are huge problems.

I have no problems in pointing out the problems in either

Vegastouch
Sep 22, 2012, 08:30 PM
Ive no idea why spell checking is left out though using SwiftKey 3 it looks to be working. But you know, im not the best typer when it comes to hitting the right keys when i try to go fast so i look at what i typed before sending it so i dont miss spell check and it it isnt a big deal to me.
I also dont have those homescreen issues you are having.


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Sensamic
Sep 22, 2012, 10:07 PM
Maybe you don't have many home screens with widgets? I have six home screens with widgets for Twitter, YouTube, news, calendar, rss feeds and weather, plus many icons.

I've noticed that the Samsung weather widget causes the reloads many times. You could try that plus more widgets and go back to the home screen after web browsing and such.

Or maybe you have the US 2GB version? I have the international one. On XDA there are many threads with people complaining about this bug. Check them out if you want.

With CM10 I have the same six home screens with the same widgets and all and absolutely no reloads.

My conclusion:

The iPhone's biggest drawback: iOS.
SGS3 biggest drawback: Samsung.

I love android. And I really dislike Samsung.

Codeworkx, one of the Cyanogenmod developers, just posted on his blog that he hates his SGS3 and is gonna sell it and buy a Sony experia. This means less development for the SGS3.

I really like this phone, except for those bugs, which could make me go and buy the next nexus if it has a micro SD slot.

I'm not married to any phone :rolleyes::rolleyes:

One thing is clear: no more Samsung phones ever. Actually, I've only had two Samsung products in my life: the omnia HD (which had the famous ****** noise bug on recorded videos) and this SGS3.

The omnia HD was a big mistake, but I decided to give Samsung another chance with the galaxy s 3, since the previous models were so interesting also.

So after buying the phone I find that is lacks spell checking! And that the home screen reloads several times a day! Still, I kept the phone, because I wasn't gonna buy the nexus without SD card, poor battery life and horrible camera. Only good alternative was the galaxy s 3. So I decided to keep it and wait. It has many other positives.

The WI-FI problem? That can happen with any phone, but those two previous issues just proves me Samsung is not worthy of my money and trust anymore. Just that simple.

I'm still gonna keep buying android phones, but probably only nexus.

I've already tried roms, kernels, patches, flashing tweaks like the on screen buttons, etc. So I know a lot about android. I've been researching for the past two years I was with the iPhone 4.

3bs
Sep 22, 2012, 10:19 PM
Codeworkx, one of the Cyanogenmod developers, just posted on his blog that he hates his SGS3 and is gonna sell it and buy a Sony experia. This means less development for the SGS3.

I just read his blog and he's saying he prefers his Nexus and uses it as his main phone. The next Nexus can't come any sooner as far as I'm concerned! I love my S3 but tweaking the Nexus wasn't as hard as this.

Vegastouch
Sep 22, 2012, 11:55 PM
Maybe you don't have many home screens with widgets? I have six home screens with widgets for Twitter, YouTube, news, calendar, rss feeds and weather, plus many icons.

I've noticed that the Samsung weather widget causes the reloads many times. You could try that plus more widgets and go back to the home screen after web browsing and such.

Or maybe you have the US 2GB version? I have the international one. On XDA there are many threads with people complaining about this bug. Check them out if you want.

With CM10 I have the same six home screens with the same widgets and all and absolutely no reloads.

My conclusion:

The iPhone's biggest drawback: iOS.
SGS3 biggest drawback: Samsung.

I love android. And I really dislike Samsung.



Yes i have the US version. I have 4 homescreens with widgets. I dont use Samsung weather, i use Fancy Widgets. I dont use a Twitter widget, i just use the notification for that. Nothing on Twitter for me is a need to reply right away i just follow most things for info.

Maybe you should try Fancy Widgets. It costs a couple bucks but it is good. I also am using a live wallpaper for my clock starting today(wp clock 2) and it is pretty cool and also costs a couple bucks. No issues with refreshing on either one.

I actually love this phone but i also will be looking to the next gen of Nexus and if i like them , or it...how ever many there are, i will sell my GS3 and get one.