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b24pgg
Sep 24, 2012, 10:45 AM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Hardware:

Removable/replaceable battery
microSD card slot (total storage up to 96GB)
NFC (i.e. Android Beam, Google Wallet, NFC sticker customization)
USB (vs. proprietary connector)
LED notification light
HD resolution


Software: way too many to list, but my biggest ones:

Google Maps/Navigation/StreetView
Free WiFi tethering
File sharing via any app that plugs into the open sharing API
Ability to choose default apps for tasks/filetypes
Chrome to Phone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQb243niMlg)/Fox to Phone (http://www.foxtophonfe.com/)
Free ad blocking apps (i.e. Ad Away (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway) and AdFree (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree))
Auto-updating widgets
True file system
Settings toggles
Tons more from mib1800 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15845029&postcount=47)



GoCubsGo
Sep 24, 2012, 10:48 AM
That's great and all but why not join the threads where this is already being discussed?

b24pgg
Sep 24, 2012, 11:07 AM
That's great and all but why not join the threads where this is already being discussed?
I would've posted in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1452434) but a mod moved it to the Wasteland.

tekno
Sep 24, 2012, 11:12 AM
I have chosen the S3 over the iPhone 4S/5 and I also think it's a lot better.

But these tit-for-tat threads really are becoming tiresome. Truth is, they're both awesome phones and each has their pros and cons.

sarcosis
Sep 24, 2012, 11:16 AM
Buy the one that fits your needs :). That's why it's good to have competition! Everyone's needs are different. BTW, I for see this thread getting big or the S3 vs. iPhone 5 thing blowing up again.

Oohara
Sep 24, 2012, 11:32 AM
I would've posted in this thread but a mod moved it to the Wasteland.

Why I went for iPhone 5 instead of gs3 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1451495)

Who went for the Galaxy S3 instead of iPhone 5? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1448726)

My SG3 review / experience (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1420108)

so do you think the iphone5 puts the galaxy s3 to shame? (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1440468)

So long Galaxy S3 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1450414)

These are all discussing basically the same thing (the one that got moved to the wasteland was a troll thread btw). Having just one megathread for iPhone 5 vs S3 comparison would make the forum less spammy tbh.

b24pgg
Sep 24, 2012, 12:12 PM
These are all discussing basically the same thing
Then one more can't hurt
Having just one megathread for iPhone 5 vs S3 comparison would make the forum less spammy tbh.
You'll have to take that up with the mods

Southernboyj
Sep 24, 2012, 03:09 PM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Hardware:

Removable/replaceable battery
microSD card slot (total storage up to 96GB)
NFC (i.e. Android Beam, Google Wallet, NFC sticker customization)
USB (vs. proprietary connector)
LED notification light
HD resolution


Software: way too many to list, but my biggest ones:

Google Maps/Navigation/StreetView
Free WiFi tethering
File sharing via any app that plugs into the open sharing API
Ability to choose default apps for tasks/filetypes
Chrome to Phone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQb243niMlg)/Fox to Phone (http://www.foxtophonfe.com/)
Free ad blocking apps (i.e. Ad Away (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway) and AdFree (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree))
Auto-updating widgets
True file system
Settings toggles
Tons more from mib1800 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15845029&postcount=47)




The USB thing and the HD resolution aren't that compelling of reasons. The iPhone 5's display is sharper than the Galaxy S3's thanks to PenTile + iP5's slightly higher pixel density. Not to mention the iPhone 5's camera is AWESOME.

This is coming from a Galaxy S3 owner btw.

Technarchy
Sep 24, 2012, 03:41 PM
The GS3 screen is utterly horrid by any standard.

It's not kinda bad, it's outright awful

lavrishevo
Sep 24, 2012, 04:01 PM
The GS3 screen is utterly horrid by any standard.

It's not kinda bad, it's outright awful

You have no clue what you are talking about. The S3's screen is fine. Super AMOLED is far from being utterly horrid. Is it the best screen out there? No. But it is far from being horrid. Stop with middle school drama. It has 309ppi and 720P resolution. Give it a break already. :rolleyes:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/galaxy-s-iii-microscope-hd-super-amoled/

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57445567-85/hd-super-amoled-versus-retina-display-and-other-screens-smartphones-unlocked/

dojoman
Sep 24, 2012, 04:06 PM
The GS3 screen is utterly horrid by any standard.

It's not kinda bad, it's outright awful

GS3 screen resolution is pretty close to Retina but what you're referring to horrid meaning Samsung bumped the contrast and saturation too much that it's not comfortable to view the screen for long period. It's like staring at over saturated TV setting on Samsung TVs.

Zman5225
Sep 24, 2012, 04:13 PM
I own both and the screen on the S3 is no match for the iphone. If you were talking size then yeah maybe, but as far as "HD" resolution the iphone is just better.

in the end both are good phones. Choose the ecosystem you like, choose the form factor you like. Opinions will always be just that.....opinions.

Idgit
Sep 24, 2012, 05:21 PM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Hardware:

LED notification light


Software: way too many to list, but my biggest ones:

Free WiFi tethering


Free WiFi tethering? Isn't this carrier-dependent? I have an iPhone 4 that supports tethering (hotspot). I use it all the time and my iPhone isn't jailbroken. Do they prohibit that in the US unless you jailbreak your phone?

What do you mean by LED notification light? There is a setting in iOS that allows you to use the iPhone's flash as a notification light. It flashes for phone calls and text messages.

b24pgg
Sep 24, 2012, 05:43 PM
What do you mean by LED notification light? There is a setting in iOS that allows you to use the iPhone's flash as a notification light. It flashes for phone calls and text messages.
The point of a notification light is to look at the phone and know if you have any notifications without having to turn on your screen. To call the camera flash on the backside of the phone a notification light is a stretch on Apple's part.

Technarchy
Sep 24, 2012, 06:05 PM
You have no clue what you are talking about. The S3's screen is fine. Super AMOLED is far from being utterly horrid. Is it the best screen out there? No. But it is far from being horrid. Stop with middle school drama. It has 309ppi and 720P resolution. Give it a break already. :rolleyes:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/galaxy-s-iii-microscope-hd-super-amoled/

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57445567-85/hd-super-amoled-versus-retina-display-and-other-screens-smartphones-unlocked/

The GS3 has the worst screen on any "flagship" phone.

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm#Table

-It's dark and dim. It has a abysmal candelas per square meter of 224. That is VERY bad for a mobile device

-The Galaxy S III has a much poorer contrast rating and screen visibility in bright ambient light.

-Pentile artifacts are immediately visible, so it just looks off and wrong from the jump.

-Everything is glazed in a funky blue hue that discolors everything, and the color gamut is ALL WRONG.

http://www.displaymate.com/Gamut_9.jpg

- At maximum, the GS3 screen eats a whooping 1.3 watts of power, so it's not especially power efficient. If you turn up the brightness to see things outside better because it's so dim, power consumption goes up to a massive 2.2 Watts, while the iPhone 5 coasts at .74 watts

So, no matter how you cut it, the iPhone 5 display is better, and the GS3 display basically sucks like all AMOLED displays.

If you want a good android display you'll go with an Atrix or HTC OneX, and avoid AMOLED like the plague.

jumpmandds
Sep 24, 2012, 06:07 PM
Go to a droid site sir we don't wanna hear that bull

sarcosis
Sep 24, 2012, 06:15 PM
The GS3 has the worst screen on any "flagship" phone.

-It's dark and dim. It has a abysmal candelas per square meter of 224. That is VERY bad for a mobile device

-The Galaxy S III has a much poorer contrast rating and screen visibility in bright ambient light.

-Pentile artifacts are immediately visible, so it just looks off and wrong from the jump.

-Everything is glazed in a funky blue hue that discolors everything, and the color gamut is ALL WRONG.

Image (http://www.displaymate.com/Gamut_9.jpg)

- At maximum, the GS3 screen eats a whooping 1.3 watts of power, so it's not especially power efficient. If you turn up the brightness to see things outside better because it's so dim, power consumption goes up to a massive 2.2 Watts, while the iPhone 5 coasts at .74 watts

So, no matter how you cut it, the iPhone 5 display is better, and the GS3 display basically sucks like all AMOLED displays.

If you want a good android display you'll go with an Atrix or HTC OneX, and avoid AMOLED like the plague.

I'm hoping that you meant the Atrix HD and not the original Atrix, since the original Atrix screen was a pile of $*** when you looked at it other than the 10 degree optimum angle. I don't think any Pentile SAMOLED can compare to a good IPS LCD screen right now. Non-Pentile maybe, but the screens on the One X and iPhone 5 are much better. I had a One X and the screen was just fabulous. Is the S3 screen bad, i wouldn't say so. I think it's pretty good for what it is. For some odd reason and i don't know why, I like the screen on my Galaxy Note better than the S3. Everything just looks crisper without the pentile crap creeping in. I don't notice it on my note, but 5 seconds on the S3, and boom it's there.

flopticalcube
Sep 24, 2012, 06:15 PM
Go to a droid site sir we don't wanna hear that bull

This is a forum for alternatives to iOS devices.

Renzatic
Sep 24, 2012, 06:18 PM
Thanks to that diagram, I now know why my iPhone 4 screen looks so yellow.

Mrg02d
Sep 24, 2012, 06:21 PM
The GS3 has the worst screen on any "flagship" phone.

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm#Table

-It's dark and dim. It has a abysmal candelas per square meter of 224. That is VERY bad for a mobile device

-The Galaxy S III has a much poorer contrast rating and screen visibility in bright ambient light.

-Pentile artifacts are immediately visible, so it just looks off and wrong from the jump.

-Everything is glazed in a funky blue hue that discolors everything, and the color gamut is ALL WRONG.

Image (http://www.displaymate.com/Gamut_9.jpg)

- At maximum, the GS3 screen eats a whooping 1.3 watts of power, so it's not especially power efficient. If you turn up the brightness to see things outside better because it's so dim, power consumption goes up to a massive 2.2 Watts, while the iPhone 5 coasts at .74 watts

So, no matter how you cut it, the iPhone 5 display is better, and the GS3 display basically sucks like all AMOLED displays.

If you want a good android display you'll go with an Atrix or HTC OneX, and avoid AMOLED like the plague.

The iPhone 5 also has a midget sized screen. You'll squint just as much as a gs3 in full sun just trying t make out the words...

Come on bro. This crap isn't going to sway gs3 owners in any way. It's going to piss people off and in turn, cause them to come piss you off.

iPhones are incredibly well built, but painfully plain. if that's what you need, then great. Just because it suits YOU best doesn't mean it's THE best.

Also, looking at my gs3 screen, I still don't see what the gripe is over pentile nor do I see any blue hue at all. Now, my iPad 3 DOES have a yellow hue to it...I still haven't considered any other tablet.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 24, 2012, 06:26 PM
You guys are overexaggerating the saturation on the GS3.

Technarchy
Sep 24, 2012, 06:33 PM
I'm hoping that you meant the Atrix HD and not the original Atrix, since the original Atrix screen was a pile of $*** when you looked at it other than the 10 degree optimum angle. I don't think any Pentile SAMOLED can compare to a good IPS LCD screen right now. Non-Pentile maybe, but the screens on the One X and iPhone 5 are much better. I had a One X and the screen was just fabulous. Is the S3 screen bad, i wouldn't say so. I think it's pretty good for what it is. For some odd reason and i don't know why, I like the screen on my Galaxy Note better than the S3. Everything just looks crisper without the pentile crap creeping in. I don't notice it on my note, but 5 seconds on the S3, and boom it's there.

Correct, the Atrix HD. It has a phenomenal screen.

Back in July I started this thread comparing displays: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1404452

Even now, I still maintain that AMOLED screens are bottom of the barrel where it matters. The GS3 screen is not a good screen.

lavrishevo
Sep 24, 2012, 10:43 PM
Correct, the Atrix HD. It has a phenomenal screen.

Back in July I started this thread comparing displays: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1404452

Even now, I still maintain that AMOLED screens are bottom of the barrel where it matters. The GS3 screen is not a good screen.

DisplayMate seems to disagree with you. Rates it as a very good display. Oh well, whatever you want to say. People enjoy the size. Would you pick a 32" lcd at 1080 or a 50" at 720. Most would prefer the 50" because the resolution difference is not very noticeable. It is obvious you have something against the S3 and enjoy ragging on it to make yourself feel better. Might be helpful to just admit it is a great phone. This is why so many people like it and have purchased it. No one really cares if you don't like it personally. But 20 + million people do like it. So, stop trolling and do something useful.

Technarchy
Sep 24, 2012, 10:50 PM
DisplayMate seems to disagree with you. Rates it as a very good display. Oh well, whatever you want to say. Personally, it is obvious you have something against the S3 and enjoy ragging on it to make yourself feel better. Might be helpful to just admit it is a great phone. This is why so many people like it and have purchased it. No one really cares if you don't like it personally. But 20 + million people do like it. So, stop trolling and do something useful.

Actually, Primo, here is what Displaymate said:

The display on the Samsung Galaxy S III uses OLED technology. It’s a new technology that has not yet been refined to the same degree as LCDs, particularly the IPS LCDs on the iPhones, so it doesn’t objectively test or perform as well as the iPhone 5. But OLEDs have been evolving and improving very rapidly as shown in our OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out so it has a very promising future. Here are the biggest issues we found in our extensive Lab measurements and viewing tests of the Galaxy S III: the Brightness is about half of the iPhone 5 due to power constraints resulting from the lower OLED power efficiency and concerns regarding premature OLED aging. As a result the image contrast and screen readability in high ambient lighting is much poorer than the iPhone 5. The Color Gamut is not only much larger than the Standard Color Gamut, which leads to distorted and exaggerated colors, but the Gamut is quite lopsided, with Green being a lot more saturated than either Red or Blue, which adds a Green color caste to many images. And for some reason Samsung has not bothered to calibrate the Color Gamut on any of its OLED displays, so they are wildly inaccurate and produce inaccurate and over saturated colors.

If someone says the iPhone5 screen is smaller than the GS3 screen, it's not "ragging"; it's a fact.

It's also the fact that the GS3 screen is not very good. It's big, but who cares when the display quality is sub second rate.

lavrishevo
Sep 24, 2012, 10:54 PM
Go back and look under the overall assessments where it says: "These Flagship displays are all Very Good to Excellent." :rolleyes: Again, overall assessment is very good. Not poor, not utterly horrific, or any other of that BS.

Calidude
Sep 24, 2012, 10:59 PM
Even now, I still maintain that AMOLED screens are bottom of the barrel where it matters. The GS3 screen is not a good screen.
I have to admit, you're absolutely right. That's the main issue with Samsung phones right now. I don't have much of a problem with it since I heavily customized and calibrated my Nexus and I got it for less than 400 unlocked, but the GS3 is not a good buy, and I've been saying it for months now.

2ndchancephones
Sep 24, 2012, 11:00 PM
I just couldn't get over the fact that the GS3 feels cheap. Not sure if its the plastic or what but it just feels like a piece of junk.

technowar
Sep 25, 2012, 01:11 AM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Hardware:

Removable/replaceable battery
- I guess I'm over with Nokia
microSD card slot (total storage up to 96GB)
- I can't consume my 16GB :\
NFC (i.e. Android Beam, Google Wallet, NFC sticker customization)
- Security flaw (http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-4s-and-galaxy-s-iii-exploited-at-pwn2own-contest-photos-contacts-and-other-info-compromised/)
- In case you missed Bump app
USB (vs. proprietary connector)
- I don't need 'em
LED notification light
- I'm oever with BB as well
HD resolution
- http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm


Software: way too many to list, but my biggest ones:

Google Maps/Navigation/StreetView
- Yeah, iPhone's new Maps app svck.
Free WiFi tethering
- Why do I need to tether my WiFi? Maybe 3G you mean? iPhone has it too
File sharing via any app that plugs into the open sharing API
- Security flaw
Ability to choose default apps for tasks/filetypes
- There's always an app for that
Chrome to Phone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQb243niMlg)/Fox to Phone (http://www.foxtophonfe.com/)
- Safari does a good job
Free ad blocking apps (i.e. Ad Away (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway) and AdFree (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree))
- There's Restriction
Auto-updating widgets
- What are widgets for? Just plain curious.
True file system
- FAT32?
Settings toggles
- Hmm?
Tons more from mib1800 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15845029&postcount=47)
- iPhone has tons too.


iPhone owner's view. Not to intend flame.

mib1800
Sep 26, 2012, 12:11 AM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Tons more from mib1800 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15845029&postcount=47)
- iPhone has tons too.
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iPhone owner's view. Not to intend flame.

Maybe you want to list them out (otherwise it's just you-say ;) ). I just can't think of anything the Iphone can do that Android cannot (or have no equivalents).
btw: those items in my list cannot be done in iphone (except one which I have not updated to take into a/c ios6)

FrankieUK
Sep 27, 2012, 08:26 AM
I just couldn't get over the fact that the GS3 feels cheap. Not sure if its the plastic or what but it just feels like a piece of junk.

I am glad it is plastic! if it wasn't i wouldn't of bought one, each phone i have had has been plastic and i haven't had one scratch on them, unlike the aluminium iphones.

2ndchancephones
Sep 29, 2012, 11:05 PM
I am glad it is plastic! if it wasn't i wouldn't of bought one, each phone i have had has been plastic and i haven't had one scratch on them, unlike the aluminium iphones.

Can't believe I would ever here someone say they would rather have a plastic, cheap feeling phone.

matttye
Sep 30, 2012, 04:55 AM
All that stuff is nice and all, but it was just a list of things my phone could do that I didn't use a great deal (or that I did use, but wasn't aware there were better alternatives).

For example; NFC tags are great, but it's better not having to quick toggle settings at all. I walk around now with my phone automatically pairing with Bluetooth devices and connecting to WiFi networks I have saved, without ever having to delve into the settings or remember to scan any tags.

With my running app on the iPhone it has playlist integration that actually works. On Android, CardioTrainer's playlist integration worked for my HTC Desire but not for my Galaxy S2 or S3 (presumably because they stored playlists differently). There are compatibility issues amongst certain apps.

I'm going to get AirPlay set up soon so I can listen to music all around the house without having to crank the volume up and get the distortion that happens when you do that. There might be an Android/Samsung equivalent to this, or Android might even be able to use AirPlay, I don't know.

Siri works when the phone is locked and there's really no comparison between Siri and S-Voice - Siri wins hands down. Google Voice Search is excellent, but even with the Jelly Bean update, S-Voice is still the app that opens when you use a Bluetooth headset!

Google Maps/Navigation is indeed superior. FAR superior.

Free WiFi tethering - don't need/want it.

File sharing via any app that plugs into the open sharing API - I could be wrong but I think that iOS may have this now. When I had EverNote installed I was able to share things with EverNote, but now that I've uninstalled it it's disappeared from the list of things I can share with.

Ability to choose default apps for tasks/filetypes - again, something that's there but I didn't have to use much, other than that I installed QuickPic to replace the default gallery because the default gallery sucks.

Chrome to Phone/Fox to Phone - iCloud tabs. Sucks that it only works with Safari though :( I use Chrome on my PC.

Free ad blocking apps (i.e. Ad Away and AdFree) - haven't seen any ads in iOS apps. Maybe I'm blind or they're just easy to ignore!

Auto-updating widgets - Don't miss widgets. You get a long list of notifications on the iOS lock screen that basically show the same information. If you want more info, just open the app.

True file system - I'm sure I'll probably miss this one day but I don't yet.

Settings toggles - used to be a real advocate for these, but it really doesn't take any extra time. Let's call dragging the notification bar down a tap on Android.

Taps for each OS:

Android
1. Drag notification bar down.
2. Tap WiFi/Bluetooth toggle respectively.

2 taps.

iOS
1. Tap settings icon.
2. Tap WiFi/Bluetooth respectively.
3. Tap on/off toggle.

3 taps.

Not much in the grand scheme of things!

I know that you can place a toggle widget on the actual home screen on Android, but on iOS I rarely ever have to turn them on and off. Such a toggle would be a complete waste of space.

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The USB thing and the HD resolution aren't that compelling of reasons. The iPhone 5's display is sharper than the Galaxy S3's thanks to PenTile + iP5's slightly higher pixel density. Not to mention the iPhone 5's camera is AWESOME.

This is coming from a Galaxy S3 owner btw.

Actually the USB vs. proprietary connector is one of the only compelling reasons on his list! (imo)

I have lots of Micro USB cables and accessories lying around, but no lightning ones. Lightning adaptors are expensive and scarce at the moment.

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The GS3 has the worst screen on any "flagship" phone.

http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm#Table

-It's dark and dim. It has a abysmal candelas per square meter of 224. That is VERY bad for a mobile device

-The Galaxy S III has a much poorer contrast rating and screen visibility in bright ambient light.

-Pentile artifacts are immediately visible, so it just looks off and wrong from the jump.

-Everything is glazed in a funky blue hue that discolors everything, and the color gamut is ALL WRONG.

Image (http://www.displaymate.com/Gamut_9.jpg)

- At maximum, the GS3 screen eats a whooping 1.3 watts of power, so it's not especially power efficient. If you turn up the brightness to see things outside better because it's so dim, power consumption goes up to a massive 2.2 Watts, while the iPhone 5 coasts at .74 watts

So, no matter how you cut it, the iPhone 5 display is better, and the GS3 display basically sucks like all AMOLED displays.

If you want a good android display you'll go with an Atrix or HTC OneX, and avoid AMOLED like the plague.

You can post all of the graphs and scientific reasoning you like, but that doesn't change the fact it's a great looking screen. ;)

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 30, 2012, 10:36 AM
If someone says the iPhone5 screen is smaller than the GS3 screen, it's not "ragging"; it's a fact.

It's also the fact that the GS3 screen is not very good. It's big, but who cares when the display quality is sub second rate.


I guess I'm happy with my no good screen on the GS3, no chart can tell me otherwise. My own 20/20 vision eyes are my best judgement. And that's a FACT.

cynics
Sep 30, 2012, 11:50 AM
Matttye, this is to insignificant to quote your entire post.

But iOS is loaded with ad's the most screen shot thing is speedtest and its loaded with ads. If the app is free and isn't a business you are already patronizing then its got ads.

And you could add a toggle to the home screen. One touch to turn off Bluetooth, wifi etc.

Edit: crap, just Reread your post and you said that.

matttye
Sep 30, 2012, 12:26 PM
Matttye, this is to insignificant to quote your entire post.

But iOS is loaded with ad's the most screen shot thing is speedtest and its loaded with ads. If the app is free and isn't a business you are already patronizing then its got ads.

And you could add a toggle to the home screen. One touch to turn off Bluetooth, wifi etc.

Edit: crap, just Reread your post and you said that.

You're right that there's an ad in speedtest. I honestly didn't notice until you said.

My point is they're just little bars that you can easily ignore. They didn't bother me on Android and they don't on iOS either!

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
From what I undrstand the G3 cant even handle recieving group texts with its base app. Really? I dont own one but if thats true what a joke. And dont come and tell me, "Well just download another app like Whatsup" Base text app cant handle group messages. Please someone who owns one tell me this cant be true.

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:02 PM
From what I undrstand the G3 cant even handle recieving group texts with its base app. Really? I dont own one but if thats true what a joke. And dont come and tell me, "Well just download another app like Whatsup" Base text app cant handle group messages. Please someone who owns one tell me this cant be true.

Even if true (I don't know for sure), you don't need to download some other messaging platform like whatsup - download something like handcent or chompsms and replace the default messaging app.

cynics
Sep 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
From what I undrstand the G3 cant even handle recieving group texts with its base app. Really? I dont own one but if thats true what a joke. And dont come and tell me, "Well just download another app like Whatsup" Base text app cant handle group messages. Please someone who owns one tell me this cant be true.

?

Wait are we allowed to list what the stock message app on iOS can't do?!? Oh I'm so excited!!

Oh we are only picking one feature about the S3 messaging app and acting like it matters? Darn....

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:10 PM
You can't be serious; when it took apple two years for mms people were talking all kind of crap. Now you mean to tell me that the G3 can't handle group texts in 2012? Give me a break.

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:12 PM
You can't be serious; when it took apple two years for mms people were talking all kind of crap. Now you mean to tell me that the G3 can't handle group texts in 2012? Give me a break.

So you're absolutely sure of what you had heard but unsure of before?

I just tried it, I can send messages to several people, and group message replies go into a single thread. So, your claim is false.

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:14 PM
So you're absolutely sure of what you had heard but unsure of before?

Yes, it was just confirmed by another G3 user. Of you want to receive group messaging then you have to download a third party app. I think that is crap!

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:15 PM
Yes, it was just confirmed by another G3 user. Of you want to receive group messaging then you have to download a third party app. I think that is crap!

Not true. I just tried using the stock messaging app.

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:17 PM
Not true. I just tried using the stock messaging app.

I didn't say sending, have someone send you a group message then I think you'll see what I'm talking about

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:18 PM
I didn't say sending, have someone send you a group message then I think you'll see what I'm talking about

I have in the past, I receive group messages from friends - what's this problem you're all outraged about?

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:24 PM
I have in the past, I receive group messages from friends - what's this problem you're all outraged about?

Not outraged at all. As I said I do not own one. I just thought it was crazy that a base app could not receive group texts in 2012. Group texts are important in business situations. When I heard you have to download a third party app just to do this I thought that couldn't be.

Now you are the first to say that it dies work. People on the android forum just confirmed that it CAN NOT receive group texts. So I'm not sure if your goofing around but it looks like it doesn't work.

The reason I was going on about this is because I have an iPhone 5 but wanted to buy the G3 for my second line. There was no way I easing to tell everyone at the office to download what's up just to complete a group text to me. So for my situation this is a desk breaker for me personally

cynics
Sep 30, 2012, 02:24 PM
I have in the past, I receive group messages from friends - what's this problem you're all outraged about?

He's just trying to find something to hate on. Why does it matter since you can replace the app with another? There are tons of features people don't like in the stock browser, why not bring that up? Because the browser can be replaced with one you like better.....

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:32 PM
There was no way I easing to tell everyone at the office to download what's up just to complete a group text to me. So for my situation this is a desk breaker for me personally

This is where you're completely off - even if it were true, YOU would download an app called chompSMS and set it to default. From then on, all SMS messages would go to chomp, and not the stock messages app. THEY don't have to do anything.

It's called choice. I use chompSMS, because I like the interface and in-depth options better than the stock app.

CSpackler
Sep 30, 2012, 02:35 PM
He's just trying to find something to hate on. Why does it matter since you can replace the app with another? There are tons of features people don't like in the stock browser, why not bring that up? Because the browser can be replaced with one you like better.....

He's just trying to point out the obvious double standard.

Android phone can't do xxx? It's okay, download an app.

iPhone can't do xxx? Raaaaargh death to Apple!!

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:37 PM
This is where you're completely off - even if it were true, YOU would download an app called chompSMS and set it to default. From then on, all SMS messages would go to chomp, and not the stock messages app. THEY don't have to do anything.

It's called choice. I use chompSMS, because I like the interface and in-depth options better than the stock app.

There we go; finally a response i can deal with. I don't think i was way off at all. As i said I'm going by others who know the os way better than i, and they were right and i wasn't off. You do as you said have to download another app to make that work. But i appreciate the suggestion because that is what i was looking for. That is something worth looking into without a doubt.

r.j.s
Sep 30, 2012, 02:40 PM
There we go; finally a response i can deal with. I don't think i was way off at all. As i said I'm going by others who know the os way better than i, and they were right and i wasn't off. You do as you said have to download another app to make that work. But i appreciate the suggestion because that is what i was looking for. That is something worth looking into without a doubt.

I didn't say you had to do anything. Group messaging works for me, and it has on every Samsung device I've owned since 2010 (GS, GS2 and GS3).

It's an option, not a mandate.

You were off because you thought everyone had to give up on texting you and use whatsup - that's completely false. On android, your choice of SMS app doesn't mean anything to anyone else - unlike the iPhone, where you have Apple's SMS app and then other messaging providers (where everyone uses that app and their message system).

wayneholbrook
Sep 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
I didn't say you had to do anything. Group messaging works for me, and it has on every Samsung device I've owned since 2010 (GS, GS2 and GS3).

It's an option, not a mandate.

You were off because you thought everyone had to give up on texting you and use whatsup - that's completely false. On android, your choice of SMS app doesn't mean anything to anyone else - unlike the iPhone, where you have Apple's SMS app and then other messaging providers (where everyone uses that app and their message system).

Ok, I get it. Thanks for the tip

thasan
Sep 30, 2012, 04:05 PM
This list doesn't take into account future updates that either device may have.

Hardware:

Removable/replaceable battery
- I guess I'm over with Nokia
microSD card slot (total storage up to 96GB)
- I can't consume my 16GB :\
NFC (i.e. Android Beam, Google Wallet, NFC sticker customization)
- Security flaw (http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-4s-and-galaxy-s-iii-exploited-at-pwn2own-contest-photos-contacts-and-other-info-compromised/)
- In case you missed Bump app
USB (vs. proprietary connector)
- I don't need 'em
LED notification light
- I'm oever with BB as well
HD resolution
- http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm


Software: way too many to list, but my biggest ones:

Google Maps/Navigation/StreetView
- Yeah, iPhone's new Maps app svck.
Free WiFi tethering
- Why do I need to tether my WiFi? Maybe 3G you mean? iPhone has it too
File sharing via any app that plugs into the open sharing API
- Security flaw
Ability to choose default apps for tasks/filetypes
- There's always an app for that
Chrome to Phone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQb243niMlg)/Fox to Phone (http://www.foxtophonfe.com/)
- Safari does a good job
Free ad blocking apps (i.e. Ad Away (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.adaway) and AdFree (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree))
- There's Restriction
Auto-updating widgets
- What are widgets for? Just plain curious.
True file system
- FAT32?
Settings toggles
- Hmm?
Tons more from mib1800 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=15845029&postcount=47)
- iPhone has tons too.


iPhone owner's view. Not to intend flame.

+1 for stupid map app.

add another one on software: next (or next to next) android update may not be available for the current 'flagship' phones :rolleyes:

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I guess I'm happy with my no good screen on the GS3, no chart can tell me otherwise. My own 20/20 vision eyes are my best judgement. And that's a FACT.

mmm...actually, people like saturated color. that is a fact.
and thats why the siii screen looks good.
but it doesnt have true color reproduction which iphone 5 has (i dont own one and i dont care about it).
so, its all down to who u r and what u want.
thats all.

tanker23
Oct 2, 2012, 05:47 PM
hi guys
anyone who got S3, please tell me if you like the S3 than the iphone and do you regret it? I am bored of iphone 4s now. If I get the S3,will I be able to sync between my ipad and macbook?

do1984
Oct 2, 2012, 05:57 PM
hi guys
anyone who got S3, please tell me if you like the S3 than the iphone and do you regret it? I am bored of iphone 4s now. If I get the S3,will I be able to sync between my ipad and macbook?

I sync my S3 just fine with my two macs and ipad using Dropbox / Google Drive. And I can't imagine getting back to iphone, but I guess it's personal. I moved for the same reasons. I like to change the way it looks. Couldn't be any happier :-)

tanker23
Oct 2, 2012, 06:29 PM
I sync my S3 just fine with my two macs and ipad using Dropbox / Google Drive. And I can't imagine getting back to iphone, but I guess it's personal. I moved for the same reasons. I like to change the way it looks. Couldn't be any happier :-)

Really? You don't regret it? I am worried I might regret it!

cynics
Oct 2, 2012, 06:39 PM
Really? You don't regret it? I am worried I might regret it!

I think it depends on the type of syncing. I only really move pics around so Dropbox is fine for me and in iOS 6 it's more integrated into the camera roll.

What exactly are you looking to sync?

tanker23
Oct 2, 2012, 06:54 PM
I think it depends on the type of syncing. I only really move pics around so Dropbox is fine for me and in iOS 6 it's more integrated into the camera roll.

What exactly are you looking to sync?

calendar

do1984
Oct 2, 2012, 06:59 PM
I just set my calendars on my macs to sync with my Google account instead of icloud. I repeat, I suppose it's a personal question, but once I got used with Android and the nice size of the screen, I can't imagine using an iphone again. All my personal files are synced through Dropbox / Google Drive (pics, documents, spreadsheets). I actually prefer those over icloud to sync my stuff.

tanker23
Oct 2, 2012, 07:02 PM
thanks for the reply. I guess I will get it and if I don't like it, I can return.

Oh, I heard the S3 lags after couple of months later, is this true?

do1984
Oct 2, 2012, 07:06 PM
Yes, you can always go back. I got mine in July 1st. There were some minor lags when using too many apps at once but since I updated to Jelly Bean I couldn't notice lag at all. Ps: I've got the international version.

Apple2
Oct 2, 2012, 07:28 PM
Personally, I prefer the iPhone because:

1. It looks better. No plastic, no breaks in the case, etc.
2. It's the right size. The Samsung phone is way too big for a lot of people to use and/or fit in their pocket. I'm sick of seing people with their phone hanging half way out of the pocket of their skinny jeans because it's 8 inches long.
3. It doesn't have any gimmicky features. From S3 site: Most advertised features are:
- Direct call, so if you're texting and put the phone near your face it calls the person: Possibility for a misdial, and are people really too lazy to press the "Call" button at the top of the screen now?
- Smart alert, gives you notifications about missed calls when you pick up your phone: This reminds me of a microwave I bought a couple of years ago. It has some "Food waiting" feature where it beeps twice a minute until you open and close the door. Annoying as hell.
- "S" Voice, basically a Siri for Samsung: I'm not going to argue which came first, but who needs a Siri. Its much faster to touch your screen, you can wipe the smudge off later.
- "S beam", lets you share stuff when the devices are close to each other: This has been around forever, and really doesn't get used much. That's why Bump failed after a while, you can send a contact in a text message in the time it takes to establish a connection with a specific device.
- "All share cast", show photos on TV and control slideshow from phone: This might be useful, but I know I never drag people into my parlor, turn on the TV and all the audio equipment, make them sit down, and project images onto the TV when I want to show a couple of photos. If it's a presentation, sure, but then wouldn't you just use Powerpoint on a laptop? Plus, I can guarantee it only works right with their creepy talking televisions.
- Buddy share cast, share photos with contacts by face: Facial recognition in photos is old news. It's been included in iPhoto for years. This is a really easy software modification, definitely not worth a spot on the homepage.
- All share play (God, can't they come up with better names? I'm going to confuse all these things!), cloud network hosted locally on a computer: Data hog anybody? Plus, you're really not going to use your computer from your phone. Imagine using Outlook on a 4.whatever inch screen. It's not going to work.
- "Smooth, minimal design": It's got ports and buttons sticking out everywhere, not to mention the cracks and port covers that always come off after two or three months. Don't get me started.
- "Pop up play", superimposes a tiny video over your texting conversation: I want to watch the movie, and not in a 1x1.5 inch box. Your friend's latest farmville score can wait. You'll never be able to focus on either, and both will turn out badly.
- "Best photo", picks the best out of eight photos in rapid succession: I'm a photographer. I'd prefer to take and pick my own photos, not have a computer pick the one with the best brightness, contrast, whatever and trash the rest. One of the junk ones might have some cool lighting thing that adds emotion to the scene.
- NFC: I don't want my credit cards in my phone. Phones are easy to get into, especially with all their easyshareeverything stuff. If I want to buy something, I can reach into my back pocket and pull out a wallet. Besides, anyone who bumps into you might "accidentially" hit your phone with a scanner. Someone will make a scanner, there's probably already one on the underground markets.

Those are my main objections with the S3. It is a good enough phone, but Samsung really can't come up with anything to do with it to make it something worth buying. After all, when its main selling statement is "I'm not an iPhone" you know somethings wrong.