James Bond... in general

[mymemory]

Well, there is this cycle of Bonds movies and is actually funny how Austin Powers got all the characters.

Then, I see how many chances the bad guys have to kill him but they go all the away around with the most creatives tortures.

What I do respect a lot is the music. Actually yesterday I saw Moonraker and I finally found the music from the ending titles, almost 20 years later.

Then I like Roger Moore the better still, I think it was the best era. Even everything seems very fake it was an actual movie if you know what I mean. And the Lotus Esprit was the best car of all of them.

[ham_man]

Well, there is this cycle of Bonds movies and is actually funny how Austin Powers got all the characters.

Then, I see how many chances the bad guys have to kill him but they go all the away around with the most creatives tortures.
"Why don't you just shoot him while he is taking a crap or something?"


:D

[Doctor Q]

Moore played Bond tongue in cheek, not seriously as Connery did, but I think it worked. Bond became a cartoon character, if he wasn't one all along, but so what?

Stretch-of-the-imagination plots, endless chases with all manner of transportation (have they done skateboards and Segways yet?), brushes with death every few minutes, winning against all odds, and always getting the girl. Just because these things happen to me regularly doesn't mean you'd believe they happen to a British spy.

However, silly or not, the Bond movies will always get my ticket money as long as Q Division is ready with the latest Bond gadgets!

[sambo.]

has only kept it's appeal because the whole thing is done with a certain tongue-in-cheek'ness/camp quality to it.
so long as it doesn't take itself at all seriously, i'll stump up for a bond movie, or at least rent the dvd..... :eek:
on the plotlines - sometimes you think they had to exhume the horse before they flogged it. which didn't stop the scriptwriters and SFX teams from rolling up their sleeves and digging away....

[Thanatoast]

I wish they'd tone down the explosions and add a little more thought. I would like to hear some decent dialogue, please. Maybe even a plot. I know it's asking a lot, but you can only blow up so many things before it gets old.

[mymemory]

I would like to hear some decent dialogue, please.

"Ohh... James..." is not enough for you?

The only thing Bond hasn't fight are Aliens.

[Lyle]

I wish they'd tone down the explosions and add a little more thought. I would like to hear some decent dialogue, please. Maybe even a plot. I know it's asking a lot, but you can only blow up so many things before it gets old.I'm also troubled by Bond's reckless sexual behavior and the exploitation of women in these films. And then there's the promotion of alcoholic beverages with his martinis (shaken, not stirred). I wish they would change those things as well.

P.S. Also, I never liked the idea that he was British.

[gwuMACaddict]

roger moore always bugged me... liked sean connery the best

[revenuee]

I'm also troubled by Bond's reckless sexual behavior and the exploitation of women in these films. And then there's the promotion of alcoholic beverages with his martinis (shaken, not stirred). I wish they would change those things as well.

P.S. Also, I never liked the idea that he was British.


James Bond is the idealization of the Alpha Male -- the strongest of the strong; cool, calm, calculated.

You are troubled by reckless sexual behavior? why? first of all ...what reckless sexual behavior? i have yet to see Bond sleep with a women who wasn't willing, and infact begging for it.

why the hang up about sex? sex is great

What exploitation of women? every female lead in Bond films is usually a strong willed, and professionally powerful woman, more then capable of taking care of herself.

The promotion of alcohol? this one you might acctually be onto something -- but it's a trademark -- regarless of what car he drives, or who actor plays him, or what the bad guy is ... you know you are dealing with the same man -- plus it's a link for all men, all men can order a vodka martini and feel like Bond, the link to the inner Alpha.

[Lyle]

I really need to start adding more "sarcasm" disclaimers to my posts.

[gwuMACaddict]

I really need to start adding more "sarcasm" disclaimers to my posts.

nobody around here catches sarcasm unless you really go out of your way to tell them... and then whats the fun in that?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I really need to start adding more "sarcasm" disclaimers to my posts.Or just one or more smilies... :rolleyes:


:p

[revenuee]

nobody around here catches sarcasm unless you really go out of your way to tell them... and then whats the fun in that?

or better writing skills ;) :cool:

LOL ... not like i should talk

[GanChan]

The story goes that Patrick McGoohan was asked to play Bond at one point, because he was already famous for playing a British secret agent on TV ("Danger Man"), but he refused because he thought the character was kind of a sleazeball. Everybody thought he was crazy. So he went off and did The Prisoner instead, and then they KNEW he was crazy. :D

[AlBDamned]

Still waiting for the Tarantino version of Casino Royale....

[mymemory]

I really need to start adding more "sarcasm" disclaimers to my posts.

Oh please do it! I was so shocked about your comments, specially because there are people around here that can be so agree with you :rolleyes:

[Altima3.5]

And the Lotus Esprit was the best car of all of them.

Loved the Esprit, but I have to say I think the Aston Martin Vanquish was even better. Thank goodness he stopped driving BMWs!

[skunk]

Loved the Esprit, but I have to say I think the Aston Martin Vanquish was even better.Huh! Nothing but a souped-up Ford. Give him a TVR next time.

[AlBDamned]

And the Lotus Esprit was the best car of all of them.


This has indeed just been voted the greatest movie car of all time in this poll (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4165270.stm)

The Back to the Future time machine was second.

[aricher]

Still waiting for the Tarantino version of Casino Royale....

That will never happen as long as the Brocolli estate has a vested interest in the Bond legacy. In fact, the IMDB has "Martin Campbell" listed as the director.
Casino Royale (http://imdb.com/title/tt0381061/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9amFtZXMgYm9uZHxmdD0xfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxjbz0xfGh0bWw9MXxu bT0x;fc=11;ft=42;fm=1)

Sean Connery = Great
George Lazenby = Whatever
Roger Moore = Cheesy but fun
Timothy Dalton = Stilted but capable/not comfortable
Pierce Brosnan = Embodied Bond but was a bit /Rico Suavé/Hokey

[AlBDamned]

That will never happen as long as the Brocolli estate has a vested interest in the Bond legacy. In fact, the IMDB has "Martin Campbell" listed as the director.

I know, shame isn't it?

[zelmo]

I really need to start adding more "sarcasm" disclaimers to my posts.

Maybe what you really need is this:

[skunk]

Sean Connery = Great
George Lazenby = Whatever
Roger Moore = Cheesy but fun
Timothy Dalton = Stilted but capable/not comfortable
Pierce Brosnan = Embodied Bond but was a bit /Rico Suavé/HokeyI'd say Timothy Dalton was the only good one after Sean Connery. Pierce Brosnan is a bit of a twat.

[AoWolf]

I'd say Timothy Dalton was the only good one after Sean Connery. Pierce Brosnan is a bit of a twat.

I have always hated Tomothy Dalton he will never be bond to me. Roger moore is my favorite. After celebrity jeopardy I just can't take sean connery seriously :)

As for bond cars I will always have a soft spot that first DB 5 with ejector seat and machine guns.

[Altima3.5]

Huh! Nothing but a souped-up Ford. Give him a TVR next time.


Don't really care if it is a Ford - the Vanquish is still a beautiful car. Would be cool to see Bond in a TVR Sagaris though, or what about a Noble M400. Both would leave the Vanquish in their dust.

[gwuMACaddict]

As for bond cars I will always have a soft spot that first DB 5 with ejector seat and machine guns.

i agree, i never did like the bmw's... and the z8 just looks like a boat to me... yuck

[rjphoto]

Sean Connery = Great
George Lazenby = Whatever
Roger Moore = Cheesy but fun
Timothy Dalton = Stilted but capable/not comfortable
Pierce Brosnan = Embodied Bond but was a bit /Rico Suavé/Hokey

Barry Nelson played the early 1950's TV role as an "American" James Bond. It was a live one-shot preformance.

I have a still photo from it in a book on James Bond and Ian Fleming somewhere in a box at home.

As for the other guys, Timithy Dalton fits the Bond from the original novels better than the rest (IMHO as a Bond fan/historian).

[apple2991]

Moore was lucky to get on when he did. His movies are carried not by his cheesy portrayal of Bond, but by the quality of the films. Sometimes his cheesiness works, but usually it just ends up degrading the classical element of the character.

Brosnan gets a bad reputation because other than Goldeneye, all of his Bond roles have been terribly scripted and executed. He is a bit of a prettyboy, but who says Bond can't be pretty?

Dalton was the best, although you may not like his movies.

[Thanatoast]

I'm also troubled by Bond's reckless sexual behavior and the exploitation of women in these films. And then there's the promotion of alcoholic beverages with his martinis (shaken, not stirred). I wish they would change those things as well.

P.S. Also, I never liked the idea that he was British.
Come on now. You have to admit that the bond movies have lost some of their soul lately. The studios just want dazzlier special effects bigger booms. The problem is, they're riding the legacy, not investing anything in it. How long til we don't care about Bond at all, we just go to see the explosions and half-naked women? I'm not against explosions and half-naked women, or even excessive drinking, but there has to be characters and a story to tie it all together. It's getting to a point with me where I just don't care enough about the characters to bother seeing the movie, no matter how many explosions or half-naked women. Why do you think "Stealth" bombed?

[aricher]

Barry Nelson played the early 1950's TV role as an "American" James Bond. It was a live one-shot preformance.

I have a still photo from it in a book on James Bond and Ian Fleming somewhere in a box at home.

As for the other guys, Timithy Dalton fits the Bond from the original novels better than the rest (IMHO as a Bond fan/historian).

Yeah, I neglected to mention this one - it's avail;able via Amazon. Peter Lorre plays a great villan.

[AlBDamned]

Come on now. You have to admit that the bond movies have lost some of their soul lately. The studios just want dazzlier special effects bigger booms. The problem is, they're riding the legacy, not investing anything in it. How long til we don't care about Bond at all, we just go to see the explosions and half-naked women? I'm not against explosions and half-naked women, or even excessive drinking, but there has to be characters and a story to tie it all together. It's getting to a point with me where I just don't care enough about the characters to bother seeing the movie, no matter how many explosions or half-naked women. Why do you think "Stealth" bombed?

I think there was some joking involved earlier on int he thread, but you're pretty much spot-on with all this ^^^^^^.

The recent Bond films have been soulless and Halle Berry was a joke in the last one (no change there then ;) )

[ToddW]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=10953


Another candidate for the next bond. I don't know about this one. I think Clive Owen is a better choice.

[AlBDamned]

I think Clive Owen is a better choice.

But there's not enough opportunity in Bond films to say F**K, for Clive Owen to be in it!

[AmigoMac]

But there's not enough opportunity in Bond films to say F**K, for Clive Owen to be in it!

What about after or before "Ohh ... James" ?? ;)

[Pittsax]

The story goes that Patrick McGoohan was asked to play Bond at one point, because he was already famous for playing a British secret agent on TV ("Danger Man"), but he refused because he thought the character was kind of a sleazeball. Everybody thought he was crazy. So he went off and did The Prisoner instead, and then they KNEW he was crazy. :D
McGoohan just wasn't compatable with the Bond format anyway, since he outright refused to have any romantic encounters as John Drake in Danger Man. I think he's quoted as saying "The only woman Patrick McGoohan kisses is Mrs. McGoohan" (or something to that effect). I can see why he would have been picked by the producers to play Bond, though.

Connery, as good as he was, was NOTHING like Bond is portrayed in the books. Like someone else pointed out, Dalton was the closest to the "authentic" Bond (probably because he actually read the books as preparation). And I've always thought Lazenby was better than people give him credit for. The film was one of the best in the series, IMO -- much more plot-oriented than flashy. In fact, the only "gadgets" in the film were the scanner/copier, the safe-cracking device (I think that was built in to the scanner), and Q's radioactive lint (one of my favorite gags in the series).

[Doctor Q]

To be politically correct, shouldn't we be insisting that the next Bond actor be female? Plenty of men have had a chance to play 007, so it would only be fair to give an actress the next chance. ;) :cool:

(Sorry, my thinking may be muddled. I just haven't been the same since Desmond Llewelyn died.)

[rjphoto]

(Sorry, my thinking may be muddled. I just haven't been the same since Desmond Llewelyn died.)

I feel your pain, brother. I wept for the gadget guru leader. It was like losing a Grandfather figure.

[AlBDamned]

To be politically correct, shouldn't we be insisting that the next Bond actor be female? Plenty of men have had a chance to play 007, so it would only be fair to give an actress the next chance. ;) :cool:

(Sorry, my thinking may be muddled. I just haven't been the same since Desmond Llewelyn died.)


I think having a female 'M' is about as PC as Bond can get! Desmond Llewellyn was a great loss though. Very sad he died and in such a way. :(

[Pittsax]

I think having a female 'M' is about as PC as Bond can get! Desmond Llewellyn was a great loss though. Very sad he died and in such a way. :(
I know...I was shocked when I heard that he had died in the way he did. The only thing I took comfort in was that he had had a nice exit scene in The World Is Not Enough, so they didn't have to do some garbage scene about why he wasn't around.

[AlBDamned]

I know...I was shocked when I heard that he had died in the way he did. The only thing I took comfort in was that he had had a nice exit scene in The World Is Not Enough, so they didn't have to do some garbage scene about why he wasn't around.

True. As much as I like John Cleese in most things he does (Fawlty Towers never fails to crease me up), his Q character. or whatever his dumb name was, was poor compared to Llewellyn's. But then again, it was going to be tough for anybody to follow him.

If Clive Owen was to play Bond, I can imagine him giving Cleese's bumbling idiot character a good slap. :D