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Arni99
Sep 27, 2012, 05:45 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/lumia-920-low-light-shootout/



charlieegan3
Sep 27, 2012, 05:57 AM
there's a clear winner there and it's not a samsung or apple phone - cool stuff.

bigjnyc
Sep 27, 2012, 07:42 AM
GSIII picture looks horrendous, so does the One X for that matter.... Nice job by the Lumia, too bad WP8 has such a shoddy and limited app store.

aneftp
Sep 27, 2012, 08:08 AM
GSIII picture looks horrendous, so does the One X for that matter.... Nice job by the Lumia, too bad WP8 has such a shoddy and limited app store.

I had the GS 3 and it sometimes had great pictures, sometimes bad pictures. Very uneven.

But as professional photographers always say (And I am not a professional). The person taking the picture is the one most responsible for making a photo look great.

lavrishevo
Sep 27, 2012, 08:19 AM
Low light on the S3 is horrendous. This does not make a lot of sense because the optics are the same as the 4s. At least so I have been told. With plentiful light the pics look great. Wonder if it is software / firmware thing.

MacRumorUser
Sep 27, 2012, 10:12 AM
Low light on the S3 is horrendous. This does not make a lot of sense because the optics are the same as the 4s. At least so I have been told. With plentiful light the pics look great. Wonder if it is software / firmware thing.

My one x camera is noteably inferior for taking photos compared to my 4s. Even HDR shots on the One X are plagued by wrong color saturation or burn out.

Seems like they spent ages on the one X optimising speed and burst mode but forgot that the picture still has to look someway respectable.

The 920 is tempting me seriously at the moment, however after having a Lumia 800 and a Nokia N9 last year, I was very bitterly disappointed with the camera optics in those handsets despite nokia's claims and lab photos that they pushed out at their launches.

For that reason I wait and see 'real human' consumer hands on photos and not Nokia labs shots. Burn me twice shame on you, burn me three times, shame on me...

MonkeySee....
Sep 27, 2012, 10:15 AM
I don't believe those SIII pics. Something isn't right there as people would have moaned about it. Or maybe Samsung users just don't care enough.

MacRumorUser
Sep 27, 2012, 10:19 AM
I don't believe those SIII pics. Something isn't right there as people would have moaned about it. Or maybe Samsung users just don't care enough.


You must take note that...

those photos were taken in pretty much near darkness. In 'real world' photo shooting most camera phone users wouldn't have even attempted taking a photo in those conditions in the first place, so would not have had the piss poor results to moan about.

MonkeySee....
Sep 27, 2012, 10:23 AM
You must take note that...

those photos were taken in pretty much near darkness. In 'real world' photo shooting most camera phone users wouldn't have even attempted taking a photo in those conditions in the first place, so would not have had the piss poor results to moan about.

Very true.

aznguyen316
Sep 27, 2012, 10:30 AM
I don't believe those SIII pics. Something isn't right there as people would have moaned about it. Or maybe Samsung users just don't care enough.

I know the lowlight of my S3 was def not as good as my 4S however it seems the verge did a test and used "night mode" and it was much more comparable and competitive. I guess I'll have to try night mode on my cam, but I just prefer auto settings as most ppl do...

Mrg02d
Sep 27, 2012, 10:57 AM
Next time I go ghost hunting I'll be sure to get a 920.;)

alphaod
Sep 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
Wow, the 808 did worse than I expected. With its original "PureView" camera and all.

iphonefan74
Sep 27, 2012, 02:00 PM
Right, because someone is going to buy a phone for how well it shoots photos in dim lighting LOL. Nokia is really grasping at straws here, trying anything to get people to buy their inferior product.

tbayrgs
Sep 27, 2012, 06:39 PM
Right, because someone is going to buy a phone for how well it shoots photos in dim lighting LOL. Nokia is really grasping at straws here, trying anything to get people to buy their inferior product.

Probably not going to buy the Nokia ONLY because of the camera but after looking at the performance of the SGIII, someone may certainly consider NOT getting that phone. Being able to get great pics/video with your phone is a bonus. Not being able to get decent photos could be a deal breaker for many.

iphonefan74
Sep 27, 2012, 08:06 PM
Probably not going to buy the Nokia ONLY because of the camera but after looking at the performance of the SGIII, someone may certainly consider NOT getting that phone. Being able to get great pics/video with your phone is a bonus. Not being able to get decent photos could be a deal breaker for many.

I get fantastic pics with my SIII, even in low light. However, I am a professional photographer so I know well enough to either use the flash, change the scene mode to indoor or night and if that doesn't work, raise the ISO. Only someone with no clue (or in this useless test) would try to shoot in low light on auto mode.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
I get fantastic pics with my SIII, even in low light. However, I am a professional photographer so I know well enough to either use the flash, change the scene mode to indoor or night and if that doesn't work, raise the ISO. Only someone with no clue (or in this useless test) would try to shoot in low light on auto mode.

Exactly. Those pics don't represent the GS3 camera's capability correctly. But the 920 is obviously much better in low light.

iphonefan74
Sep 27, 2012, 08:51 PM
Exactly. Those pics don't represent the GS3 camera's capability correctly. But the 920 is obviously much better in low light.

Better low light performance in auto mode, thats it. I would put all my money on the SIII over the 920 if you were to let pro photographers compare them. Samsung makes cameras, Nokia doesnt. Big difference.

LIVEFRMNYC
Sep 27, 2012, 10:06 PM
Better low light performance in auto mode, thats it. I would put all my money on the SIII over the 920 if you were to let pro photographers compare them. Samsung makes cameras, Nokia doesnt. Big difference.

I don't care about the pros. I care what I'm able to do, and I haven't been able to create a low light pic comparable to the Lumia 920 shown in the link. I have been able to get it as good as the iP5. I tried every possible setting combination, which is a lot.

lavrishevo
Sep 27, 2012, 10:38 PM
Better low light performance in auto mode, thats it. I would put all my money on the SIII over the 920 if you were to let pro photographers compare them. Samsung makes cameras, Nokia doesnt. Big difference.

I think you would loose this bet big time. The backlight sensor and the lens are superior in the Nokia. When you look at many reviews Nokia's have had fantastic camera quality. I don't know what the S3 can do but I did see a video, which states the 920 will do a 2.0 f-stop. iPhone 5 is 2.4 and I can't find the specs for the S3.

Dunbar
Sep 27, 2012, 11:51 PM
Here's a high resolution photo on the S3 in night mode compared to the Lumia 920. The 920 is pretty impressive but would never get a Windows phone just for the camera.

http://www.chiritech.com/orielsy/sgsvs920.png

lavrishevo
Sep 28, 2012, 12:57 AM
Not bad on the s3. Bit grainy. Nokia shot is lovely for a phone. I'm with in regards to a windows phone...

flameproof
Sep 28, 2012, 01:52 AM
GSIII picture looks horrendous, so does the One X for that matter.... Nice job by the Lumia, too bad WP8 has such a shoddy and limited app store.

If WP7 apps are compatible you have >100,000 to start with. Average quality is better then iOS as WP has no pre-2010 apps (I think WP6.x apps are not compatible)

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never get a Windows phone just for the camera.

Neither would I. It's lots of other functions I like about it. For good quality pix I have a camera anyway.

watchthisspace
Sep 28, 2012, 03:31 AM
Is it just me who thinks the iPhone 5 is the clear winner in this test? The Nokia is adding a ton of artificial light to the picture. This takes away from the setting in which the original photo was shot. The iPhone 5 does an outstanding job of reproducing the scene and lighting. It's the clear winner as far as I'm concerned.

Did you watch the video??

Faux Carnival
Sep 28, 2012, 03:47 AM
Everything is perfect about this phone. For the first time in smartphone history...

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Is it just me who thinks the iPhone 5 is the clear winner in this test? The Nokia is adding a ton of artificial light to the picture. This takes away from the setting in which the original photo was shot. The iPhone 5 does an outstanding job of reproducing the scene and lighting. It's the clear winner as far as I'm concerned.

What are you on?

flameproof
Sep 28, 2012, 04:00 AM
Everything is perfect about this phone. For the first time in smartphone history...

It ain't on the market yet.

Faux Carnival
Sep 28, 2012, 08:47 AM
It ain't on the market yet.

I didn't say it was. :confused:

nws0291
Sep 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
If WP7 apps are compatible you have >100,000 to start with. Average quality is better then iOS as WP has no pre-2010 apps (I think WP6.x apps are not compatible)


Have you used a WP7 device? Based on you comments I would say no. The apps on WP are not mature and they are awful. Many lack functionality to Android/iOS versions if they even have a WP app.

The top apps in the app store are all garbage spam apps. I tried to like the Lumia 900 after a few months enough was enough. My phone was free too.

tbayrgs
Sep 28, 2012, 05:44 PM
Better low light performance in auto mode, thats it. I would put all my money on the SIII over the 920 if you were to let pro photographers compare them. Samsung makes cameras, Nokia doesnt. Big difference.

Geez, who's the blind fanboy now? I haven't seen a single evaluation/review where the camera of the GS3 is found superior to the Lumia 920 (or the iPhone 5, for that matter). Dare you to find one either.

Take a look at the image stabilization test (http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/25/iphone-5-lumia-920-image-stabilization-face-off/) that was also on Engadget. The Lumia pretty much kicked everyones a$$ is that as well, though as a professional photographer, I'm sure you'll being able to identify the fault in that test as well that was the cause of the GS3 defeat, because, you know, Samsung makes cameras, so it must be better.

And last time I checked, the incredibly vast majority of smartphone users aren't pro photographers and won't be using them as pro photographers so best performance on AUTO mode is far more important.

roxxette
Sep 28, 2012, 07:14 PM
Hi guys ! Very excited for the 920 :) i was banned for a few days and came now to find more info about the phone and it just look ****ing great !

I say it before :D these time Nokia deserves my money.

flameproof
Sep 28, 2012, 08:23 PM
Have you used a WP7 device? Based on you comments I would say no.

I setup a Lumia 800 for somebody. Firstly, you have to install less. The 800 comes with a full navi and also MS Office. There is also SkyDrive (7Gb free space). I love the camera OCR translation feature!

I installed WhatsApp (free on WP!). ...and a few more that I forgot. All are nice and flawless and WP7 is more fluid then my iPhone 4. Specially when the camera is open in the Background.

I haven't looked at the WP Marketplace top 10 - but same as iOS top 10, there isn't a single app I need from. Most in iOS are games, where I have zero interest in.

What I didn't like about Lumia 800: No screenshot function (no app for it too), and couldn't find a free weather app that has the info displayed on a tile (iOS has no interactive tiles, but Android has that function and I love that).

So what hinders me from buying the 920?

1. It ain't out yet
2. Maybe it's too big, I rather go for 820, ain't out too
3. Maybe price, $500 is the pain limit
4. I have an iPhone 4 and I change phones rarely. Lets talk in late 2013...

I am not a must-have-the-latest person.

gladesmellzgood
Oct 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
My one x camera is noteably inferior for taking photos compared to my 4s. Even HDR shots on the One X are plagued by wrong color saturation or burn out.

Seems like they spent ages on the one X optimising speed and burst mode but forgot that the picture still has to look someway respectable.

The 920 is tempting me seriously at the moment, however after having a Lumia 800 and a Nokia N9 last year, I was very bitterly disappointed with the camera optics in those handsets despite nokia's claims and lab photos that they pushed out at their launches.

For that reason I wait and see 'real human' consumer hands on photos and not Nokia labs shots. Burn me twice shame on you, burn me three times, shame on me...

So true! I loved my Lumia 800 but it's camera was abysmal! Having used an N95 in the past I assumed that the camera from a Nokia device would be great. And boy was I mistaken...I'm waiting on the review from the The Verge and other websites I respect. Also maybe some hands on time in a store.

apierrec
Oct 16, 2012, 11:29 PM
Is it just me who thinks the iPhone 5 is the clear winner in this test? The Nokia is adding a ton of artificial light to the picture. This takes away from the setting in which the original photo was shot. The iPhone 5 does an outstanding job of reproducing the scene and lighting. It's the clear winner as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, that's what am seeing here.

He went to Finland for these spurious results / findings? :p