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Sep 27, 2012, 01:13 PM
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Camera+, the top-selling non-game app (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/05/apple-publishes-game-heavy-ios-app-bestseller-list/) for the iPhone, has made its way (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/camera-plus-ipad-app/) to the iPad.

The app, which has sold more than 9 million copies, is a full-featured replacement for the standard Camera app that comes with the iPhone. It includes a plethora of options for editing and sharing pictures, as well as a variety of different shooting modes.

The new version of Camera+ adds support for iCloud, as well as the new iPad app that will sync photos between the iPhone and iPad versions of the app to make editing easier.
Together, the iPad and iPhone apps should pose a challenge to Adobe, which offers a suite of Photoshop apps for editing photos on the iPad, as well as its own cloud storage service.

Like the iPhone version, the iPad app was designed to make editing photos quick and easy. It has five basic tools: Scenes for applying automatic touch-ups for photos taken in certain light conditions, like in low light or indoor areas; Adjust for making basic adjustments like rotating the image or removing red eye; Crops for cropping portions of a photo; FX Effects for applying fancy filters; and Borders for adding stylized borders.http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/09/NewImage47.png


The New York Times spoke with the developers (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/camera-plus-ipad-app/) behind Camera+, hearing how difficult it was to make iCloud work the way they wanted it to. They said Apple's iCloud API's were inadequate and that it took their developers "twice as long as it should because of the problems with it."

Regardless of the difficulties in developing it, Camera+ is now available on the both the iPhone (http://appshopper.com/photography/camera%C2%A0...the-ultimate-photo-app) and iPad (http://appshopper.com/photography/camera-for-ipad-2) for $0.99 each. [Direct Links: iPhone (http://itunes.apple.com/app/camera+/id329670577?mt=8), iPad (http://itunes.apple.com/app/camera+-for-ipad/id550902799?mt=8)]

Article Link: Camera+ Comes to the iPad with iCloud Sync Support (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/27/camera-comes-to-the-ipad-with-icloud-sync-support/)



kirky29
Sep 27, 2012, 01:18 PM
Ahh it's a separate app for the iPad...this explains a lot :)

Been waiting a long time for this!

dwman
Sep 27, 2012, 01:30 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

Staindsoul
Sep 27, 2012, 01:31 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

I think it's mainly for taking pics with your iPhone and then being able to edit them on the iPad. Am I missing something?

Sneakz
Sep 27, 2012, 01:32 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

The third gen iPad takes pictures comparable to the iPhone 4 or maybe even slightly better.

tcb9289
Sep 27, 2012, 01:35 PM
I posed this question in another thread, but I feel like I might get an answer more quickly here . . .

With the recent update, I'm thinking of using camera+ as my primary camera app on iPhone 5 . . .can anyone who has made the switch previously comment on the benefits/drawbacks of one versus the other. Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?

I've used camera+ primarily as an editing tool, but it seems to launch faster than the stock app on the 5, so I'm considering it as my go-to camera.

somethingelsefl
Sep 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
Apple REALLY needs to streamline their iCloud API, especially since much of so much of their future depends on developers integrating iCloud

Tinmania
Sep 27, 2012, 01:41 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

The iPad 3's is much better.

However, with iCloud support for Camera+ and PhotoStream you don't ever need to take the pics with the iPad itself. I would just use my iPhone.

Camera+ is also a nice little editor. It's not just for taking pics. Editing, for me, is nicer on the iPad than iPhone.




Michael

FlameofAnor
Sep 27, 2012, 01:41 PM
The third gen iPad takes pictures comparable to the iPhone 4 or maybe even slightly better.

Yep...... I have taken photos with my new iPad, and the results are pretty good. Especially so for stylized shots, like Hipstamatic. The iPad may be a bit bulky, but having the large screen as a viewfinder is kinda nice.

The Camera+ app is a great deal for $0.99. There are a lot of editing options. Not a Photoshop replacement by any means, but as far as iOS photo editing apps go, it's quite useful.

randallking
Sep 27, 2012, 01:43 PM
I use the lock screen shortcut to access my iPhone's Camera app almost always. Even if the phone is unlocked, I will lock it and access Camera through the lock screen because it's faster. Not having lock screen access to Camera+ would probably keep me from using it as my primary camera app. So that's one disadvantage I can think of immediately.

D.T.
Sep 27, 2012, 01:51 PM
I posed this question in another thread, but I feel like I might get an answer more quickly here . . .

With the recent update, I'm thinking of using camera+ as my primary camera app on iPhone 5 . . .can anyone who has made the switch previously comment on the benefits/drawbacks of one versus the other. Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?

I've used camera+ primarily as an editing tool, but it seems to launch faster than the stock app on the 5, so I'm considering it as my go-to camera.

I've been using Camera+ over the stock camera app, though some reasons aren't valid anymore with the last couple of iOS updates ...

The camera control is better: more pre-shot adjustments, a timer (this is the original reason I picked it up), multi-shot

Editing with color/balance correction, filters

Finally, the sharing options are terrific and there's even an automated sharing setting so you can just shoot pics and they're uploaded automatically!

Now with stock camera and the current OS, you can share much much better, the volume works as a shutter, it's available directly from the lock screen (and it also shoots video). I'd still love some better white balance control and a timer, a few other small details I prefer in Camera +, but it's getting closer.

In fact, many of my fave 3rd party apps are getting used a little less as the stock apps improve (camera, podcast)

Today I actually edited then posted to Flickr using Snapseed which is also a good editing tool (and handles sharing to way more services).

jjpmir
Sep 27, 2012, 01:56 PM
Apple REALLY needs to streamline their iCloud API, especially since much of so much of their future depends on developers integrating iCloud

You are sooooo right, I've had to abandon planned functionality because the codebase was dominated by recovery code - too many exceptions and not enough reliability. I think the API must work because Apple's apps work but the sample app and the provided docs blows beyond belief.

Blomkvist
Sep 27, 2012, 01:59 PM
I actually shoot a lot of my pics with my Nikon SLR and use the "camera kit" to transfer them to my iPad 2 for editing (Snapseed, Sketchbook). For $0.99 I may have to give this a try as well.

kirky29
Sep 27, 2012, 02:02 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

Like others have said, I take photos with my iPhone then via iCloud they sync over, edit them on the iPad and they save back to the iPhone via iCloud - then upload to Facebook & the World! :)

nutmac
Sep 27, 2012, 02:16 PM
With the recent update, I'm thinking of using camera+ as my primary camera app on iPhone 5 . . .can anyone who has made the switch previously comment on the benefits/drawbacks of one versus the other. Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?

The main drawbacks for me are (1) lock screen access and (2) lack of video.

The first drawback applies to all third party apps, but it is just so much more convenient to launch Camera app from the lock screen that I rarely shoot photos with anything but built-in Camera app (exceptions are when I need burst or timer).

As for the second drawback, I have two young kids so switching apps to shoot video and photos increases the risk of losing precious moments.

Other missing functionalities include HDR and panorama (Camera+ has a fake HDR mode that simulates HDR during post processing).

tcb9289
Sep 27, 2012, 02:26 PM
The main drawbacks for me are (1) lock screen access and (2) lack of video.

The first drawback applies to all third party apps, but it is just so much more convenient to launch Camera app from the lock screen that I rarely shoot photos with anything but built-in Camera app (exceptions are when I need burst or timer).

As for the second drawback, I have two young kids so switching apps to shoot video and photos increases the risk of losing precious moments.

Other missing functionalities include HDR and panorama (Camera+ has a fake HDR mode that simulates HDR during post processing).

Thanks for the input, everyone!

Based on the feedback, my plan is to use camera.app for spontaneous video ops, which require quick access from the lockscreen, and use camera+ for taking pictures. I've always found taking a video rarely works out b/c even if I open the camera app from the lock screen, I almost always end up having to wait for the switch from picture to video. With this setup, I can quickly access video (which apparently allows you to capture still images w/ iPhone 5 anyway), while taking advantage of extra features of camera+.

As an aside, I've always wondered about the difference between stock HDR and the post-capture HDR through 3rd party apps. I've never really cared much for the iPhone's HDR images, but I guess that's a product of me not knowing much about photography.

Thanks Again!

nutmac
Sep 27, 2012, 03:31 PM
Based on the feedback, my plan is to use camera.app for spontaneous video ops, which require quick access from the lockscreen, and use camera+ for taking pictures. I've always found taking a video rarely works out b/c even if I open the camera app from the lock screen, I almost always end up having to wait for the switch from picture to video.

Video/photo toggle, at least on iPhone 5, is much quicker than switching apps (even from the task manager).

mactmaster
Sep 27, 2012, 03:58 PM
I posed this question in another thread, but I feel like I might get an answer more quickly here . . .

With the recent update, I'm thinking of using camera+ as my primary camera app on iPhone 5 . . .can anyone who has made the switch previously comment on the benefits/drawbacks of one versus the other. Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?

I've used camera+ primarily as an editing tool, but it seems to launch faster than the stock app on the 5, so I'm considering it as my go-to camera.

No HDR, no Panorama, no video recording.

You gain separate focus, exposure and white balance locks. Self-timer.

Stay away from the digital zoom, it adds some weird artifacts occasionally and it slows down shooting.

nutmac
Sep 27, 2012, 04:12 PM
You gain separate focus, exposure and white balance locks.
iOS 6 Camera has them as standard features.

Poob Bubes
Sep 27, 2012, 04:23 PM
FYI, if you enable iCloud sync it will upload over cellular connection if you're not on wifi. I upgraded earlier and turned it on... now my iPhone 5 battery is draining at a steady clip while all my pics are uploading over LTE. The phone is pretty warm too.

mlordi2
Sep 27, 2012, 04:32 PM
So as a newer iOS user, I'm looking for some guidance on how this app and others work with iCloud. I've activated both, but I'm confused on the functionality of iCloud. Am I correct that photos will only synch with each device and not be available online in the cloud itself?

nutmac
Sep 27, 2012, 05:00 PM
FYI, if you enable iCloud sync it will upload over cellular connection if you're not on wifi.

Settings | General | Cellular | (scroll down to "Use Celullar data for" section) iCloud Documents -> OFF

nutmac
Sep 27, 2012, 07:12 PM
Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?
It seems iOS 6's Camera app takes different looking picture than third party apps.

According to Gruber's Flickr stream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/sets/72157631638585684/), the built-in app has wider ISO range (up to 3200), whereas third party apps are restricted to 800. ISO 800 might be a plus to some (less noisy), but it is a difference worth noting.

From Gruber: (http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/27/consumer-reports-iphone-5)
I posted three photos taken with an iPhone 5: one using the built-in Camera app, and two taken with third party apps (Camera Plus Pro and VSCO Cam). I included one taken with the built-in Camera app on an iPhone 4S.

Looking at the EXIF data, the big difference is that the photo shot with the built-in Camera app on the iPhone 5 had an ISO speed of 2500; the other three all maxed out at 800. It appears the iPhone 5 can go up to ISO 3200. That’s the two-stop difference Apple is promoting.

infowarfare
Sep 27, 2012, 09:28 PM
It seems iOS 6's Camera app takes different looking picture than third party apps.

According to Gruber's Flickr stream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gruber/sets/72157631638585684/), the built-in app has wider ISO range (up to 3200), whereas third party apps are restricted to 800. ISO 800 might be a plus to some (less noisy), but it is a difference worth noting.

From Gruber: (http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/27/consumer-reports-iphone-5)
I posted three photos taken with an iPhone 5: one using the built-in Camera app, and two taken with third party apps (Camera Plus Pro and VSCO Cam). I included one taken with the built-in Camera app on an iPhone 4S.

Looking at the EXIF data, the big difference is that the photo shot with the built-in Camera app on the iPhone 5 had an ISO speed of 2500; the other three all maxed out at 800. It appears the iPhone 5 can go up to ISO 3200. That’s the two-stop difference Apple is promoting.

No, the iPhone 5 takes a different looking picture than third party apps that were made for the iPhone 4S; in other words, the iPhone 4S had a maximum ISO of 800, so third party camera apps were made to take advantage of that. Now with the iPhone 5, the max is 3200 ISO, so third party apps simply need to be updated; Camera+ was updated today (not to be confused with Camera Plus Pro which is a completely different app/company.)

nutmac
Sep 28, 2012, 12:00 AM
No, the iPhone 5 takes a different looking picture than third party apps that were made for the iPhone 4S; in other words, the iPhone 4S had a maximum ISO of 800, so third party camera apps were made to take advantage of that. Now with the iPhone 5, the max is 3200 ISO, so third party apps simply need to be updated; Camera+ was updated today (not to be confused with Camera Plus Pro which is a completely different app/company.)

I've tried taking several photos in low light and I couldn't get Camera+ (3.5, which is the version released today) to take photos with ISO higher than 800.

Here's one comparison.

Camera+ (blocked out maps):
http://f.cl.ly/items/253d3t0V391d003l1Z0p/IMG_1473.PNG

Built-in Camera app:
http://f.cl.ly/items/3J12052b0W2v2J2k0t17/IMG_1474.PNG

atari1356
Sep 28, 2012, 01:23 AM
No, the iPhone 5 takes a different looking picture than third party apps that were made for the iPhone 4S; in other words, the iPhone 4S had a maximum ISO of 800, so third party camera apps were made to take advantage of that. Now with the iPhone 5, the max is 3200 ISO, so third party apps simply need to be updated; Camera+ was updated today (not to be confused with Camera Plus Pro which is a completely different app/company.)

Developers have no control over what ISO is used... unfortunately it's not a simple matter of updating a camera app to support up to ISO 3200.

infowarfare
Sep 28, 2012, 01:54 AM
I've tried taking several photos in low light and I couldn't get Camera+ (3.5, which is the version released today) to take photos with ISO higher than 800.


I was going to say, "maybe they just didn't update the ISO part yet in today's update" until I saw this...

Developers have no control over what ISO is used... unfortunately it's not a simple matter of updating a camera app to support up to ISO 3200.

... which I didn't know. What's confusing me at the moment is, that my favorite camera app, 645 PRO (which allows really great control of your camera settings) states that ISO is hardware dependent (http://jag.gr/645pro/specifications/) and that the iPhone 5 is 800(?) So I don't know...

mtfbwy
Sep 28, 2012, 07:11 AM
The reason I never fully switched to this app to replace the standard camera app was the inability to switch to video recording in the app and jumping back to the standard app always seemed like a kludge. I also find the proprietary lightbox to be a hassle.

Was this fixed finally?

BornAgainMac
Sep 28, 2012, 08:04 AM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

iPad 2 camera was terrible. The newer one may not be the best camera to hold but the fact that you can really look at your photo after you take it on a larger screen is a good tool to help a beginner take better photos in the future.

I suggest using one of those Line Art or Old Video camera apps on the iPad 2. It brings new life to the iPad 2 camera since it excels in that kind of photography.

supersteve
Sep 28, 2012, 10:24 AM
I posed this question in another thread, but I feel like I might get an answer more quickly here . . .

With the recent update, I'm thinking of using camera+ as my primary camera app on iPhone 5 . . .can anyone who has made the switch previously comment on the benefits/drawbacks of one versus the other. Is there any loss of quality or functionality in taking photos directly from camera+?

I've used camera+ primarily as an editing tool, but it seems to launch faster than the stock app on the 5, so I'm considering it as my go-to camera.

It's a fantastic app. I guess the only thing the Apple camera app has over this is panorama mode.

The main reason I use Camera + is it has the ability to turn the flash on before your take the picture. So if it's too dark to see what you're taking a picture of, it becomes a flash light.

The editing is cool too

shly0718
Sep 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
I'm really :confused: I won't use thd party app to tak pic , so only for post editing , but camera+ still looks fancy as a editing tool ,, but I aldy had Snapseed which is my first go to option. So I don't know if the function make big difference??. One buck is nothing , but I don't want buy a app then never touch again.

atari1356
Sep 28, 2012, 02:52 PM
Developers have no control over what ISO is used... unfortunately it's not a simple matter of updating a camera app to support up to ISO 3200.

I was going to say, "maybe they just didn't update the ISO part yet in today's update" until I saw this...

Actually, it looks like I spoke too soon. Apple provides some properties developers can set to support the iPhone 5's "low light boost mode"... I just missed it because it's not fully documented yet:

http://blog.crushapps.com/2012/09/the-iphone-5s-low-light-boost-mode/

Keebler
Sep 28, 2012, 08:52 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

It sounds crazy, but at the end of school year play, I could not believe the # of iPads people had out taking photos (and video). It was crazy.

One lady was annoying as she stood up, holding the iPad up like John Cusack in 16 Candles with the ghetto blaster, completely blocking a key view on the play. lol

lwapps
Sep 30, 2012, 04:53 PM
Yep...... I have taken photos with my new iPad, and the results are pretty good. Especially so for stylized shots, like Hipstamatic. The iPad may be a bit bulky, but having the large screen as a viewfinder is kinda nice.

The Camera+ app is a great deal for $0.99. There are a lot of editing options. Not a Photoshop replacement by any means, but as far as iOS photo editing apps go, it's quite useful.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005GTR0R6/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=la0b65-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B005GTR0R6&adid=0BJFWJXY63MDZH1F1A78&

Lenses such as this one are what you need for real photography!

Paco II
Sep 30, 2012, 09:58 PM
I have a question about the iCloud sync. Won't that consume your iCloud storage space? If you've got iCloud, then you've got PhotoStream. Why not just use PhotoStream, which does not consume your iCloud storage, to access photos on multiple devices, and use it to move them back and forth? I know I must be missing something.

pink thing
Oct 1, 2012, 06:09 AM
I use this app on my iPhone. It's pretty good now that the lightbox saving issue seems to be working. Not too happy having to buy it again though just because this version is 'Camera+ For iPad' :rolleyes:

Amazing Iceman
Oct 1, 2012, 08:44 PM
Not to sound like a troll, but do folks really take a lot of pictures with the iPad? I have an iPad 2 and the camera on the back is lousy.

IPad 2 probably, new iPad: great!

infowarfare
Oct 3, 2012, 03:07 PM
It seems iOS 6's Camera app takes different looking picture than third party apps... <snip>

No, the iPhone 5 takes a different looking picture than third party apps that were made for the iPhone 4S; in other words, the iPhone 4S had a maximum ISO of 800, so third party camera apps were made to take advantage of that. Now with the iPhone 5, the max is 3200 ISO, so third party apps simply need to be updated; Camera+ was updated today (not to be confused with Camera Plus Pro which is a completely different app/company.)

Developers have no control over what ISO is used... unfortunately it's not a simple matter of updating a camera app to support up to ISO 3200.

I was going to say, "maybe they just didn't update the ISO part yet in today's update"

Actually, it looks like I spoke too soon. Apple provides some properties developers can set to support the iPhone 5's "low light boost mode"... I just missed it because it's not fully documented yet:

http://blog.crushapps.com/2012/09/the-iphone-5s-low-light-boost-mode/

Looks like my original statement stands then; Camera+ was updated again TODAY (October 3, 2012) with the ability to use the 3200 ISO mode on the iPhone 5 when in a very low light situation...

Tinmania
Oct 5, 2012, 12:12 PM
Developers have no control over what ISO is used... unfortunately it's not a simple matter of updating a camera app to support up to ISO 3200.

I think you are incorrect. Look at the update for Camera+. It specifically says this update increases ISO on iPhone 5 and makes it work like the native camera app as far as sensitivity.

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=366780&stc=1&d=1349457028

EDIT: OK I see I was late to the party and you already realized it was possible!




Michael

LeeTommy
Nov 12, 2012, 01:20 AM
Camera+, Blend InstaCamera and Snapseed is one of three best camera apps I've bought! Would definitely recommend http://bit.ly/SQ98oG