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diamond geezer
Aug 25, 2005, 12:07 AM
Here's an interesting article from Rolling Stone.

Well worth a full read.

link (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7539869?rnd=1123880090703&has-player=unknown)

Bush's summer bills were extraordinary pieces of legislation, broad in scope, transparently brazen and audaciously indulgent. They gave an energy industry drowning in the most obscene profits in its history billions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks, including $2.9 billion for the coal industry. The highway bill set new standards for monstrous and indefensibly wasteful spending, with Congress allocating $100,000 for a single traffic light in Canoga Park, California, and $223 million for the construction of a bridge linking the mainland an Alaskan island with a population of just fifty.

To understand the breadth of Bush's summer sweep, you had to watch the hand-fighting at close range. You had to watch opposition gambits die slow deaths in afternoon committee hearings, listen as members fell on their swords in exchange for favors and be there to see hordes of lobbyists rush in to reverse key votes at the last minute. All of these things I did -- with the help of a tour guide.

There is really to much in this article to quote, you've got to read the whole thing. But here's a few snippets anyway.

The House Rules Committee is perhaps the free world's outstanding bureaucratic abomination -- a tiny, airless closet deep in the labyrinth of the Capitol where some of the very meanest people on earth spend their days cleaning democracy like a fish. The official function of the committee is to decide which bills and amendments will be voted on by Congress and also to schedule the parameters of debate. If Rules votes against your amendment, your amendment dies. If you control the Rules Committee, you control Congress. Sensenbrenner is your basic Fat Evil Prick, perfectly cast as a dictatorial committee chairman: He has the requisite moist-with-sweat pink neck, the dour expression, the penchant for pointless bile and vengefulness. Only a month before, on June 10th, Sensenbrenner suddenly decided he'd heard enough during a Judiciary Committee hearing on the Patriot Act and went completely Tasmanian devil on a group of Democratic witnesses who had come to share stories of abuses at places like Guantanamo Bay. Apparently not wanting to hear any of that stuff, Sensenbrenner got up midmeeting and killed the lights, turned off the microphones and shut down the C-Span feed, before marching his fellow Republicans out of the room -- leaving the Democrats and their witnesses in the dark.

This lights-out technique was actually pioneered by another Republican, former Commerce Committee chairman Thomas Bliley, who in 1995 hit the lights on a roomful of senior citizens who had come to protest Newt Gingrich's Medicare plan. Bliley, however, went one step further than Sensenbrenner, ordering Capitol police to arrest the old folks when they refused to move. Sensenbrenner might have tried the same thing in his outburst, except that his party had just voted to underfund the Capitol police. Members who cross DeLay & Co. invariably find themselves stripped of influence and/or important committee positions. When Rep. Chris Smith complained about Bush's policy toward veterans, he was relieved of his seat as the Veterans' Committee chairman. When Joel Hefley locked horns with Dennis Hastert during the Tom DeLay ethics flap, Hefley lost his spot as the House Ethics Committee chairman. To most everyone outside those nine majority members, what transpires in the committee the night before a floor vote is a mystery on the order of the identity of Jack the Ripper or the nature of human afterlife. Even the Democrats who sit on the committee have only a vague awareness of what goes on. "They can completely rewrite bills," says McGovern. "Then they take it to the floor an hour later. Nobody knows what's in those bills."

One singular example of this came four years ago, when the Judiciary Committee delivered the first Patriot Act to the Rules Committee for its consideration. Dreier trashed that version of the act, which had been put together by the bipartisan committee, and replaced it with a completely different bill that had been written by John Ashcroft's Justice Department.

The bill went to the floor a few hours later, where it passed into law. The Rules Committee is supposed to wait out a three-day period before sending the bill to the House, ostensibly in order to give the members a chance to read the bill. The three-day period is only supposed to be waived in case of emergency. However, the Rules Committee of DeLay and Dreier waives the three-day period as a matter of routine. This forces members of Congress to essentially cast blind yes-or-no votes to bills whose contents are likely to be an absolute mystery to them. On this particular morning, about half of the people in the line to get into the committee appear to be congressional staffers, mostly young men in ties and dress shirts. The rest are disheveled, beaten-down- looking men, most of them black, leaning against the walls.

These conspicuous characters are called "line-standers." A lot of them are homeless. This is their job: They wait in line all morning so some lobbyist for Akin, Gump or any one of a thousand other firms doesn't have to. "Three days a week," says William McCall (who has a home), holding up three fingers. "Come in Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Get between twelve and forty dollars."

When a photographer approaches to take a picture of the line, all the line-standers but McCall refuse to be photo-graphed and cover their faces with newspapers. I smile at this: Only the homeless have enough sense to be ashamed of being seen in Congress.

In reality, everybody in Congress is a stand-in for some kind of lobbyist. In many cases it's difficult to tell whether it's the companies that are lobbying the legislators or whether it's the other way around. In the summer of 2003, it received a very similar kind of document purportedly from the Treasury. Printed on Treasury stationery, the document contained, like the Ex-Im memo, a list of talking points that seemed to argue against a Sanders amendment. The issue in that case involved a set of new Treasury regulations that would have made it easier for companies to convert their employees' traditional pension plans into a new type of plan called a cash-balance pension plan.

Among the companies that would have been affected by the regulations was IBM, which stood to save billions by converting to this new system. And guess who turned out to have written the "Treasury Department Memo" that was circulated to members of Congress, on the eve of the vote?

That's right: IBM.

"It was hilarious," recalls Gunnels. "The Treasury Department logo was even kind of tilted, like it had been pasted on. It looked like a third-grader had done it."

Persistent questioning by Sanders' staff led to an admission by the Treasury Department that the document had indeed been doctored by IBM. The company, in turn, issued a utterly nonsensical mea culpa ("We believed that we were redistributing a public document that we had understood was widely distributed by the Treasury") that has to rank as one of the lamer corporate non-apologies in recent years.

It seemed obvious that the company had acted in conjunction with one or more Treasury employees to create the phony document. But no Treasury employee has ever been exposed, nor has IBM ever been sanctioned. "They turned the case over to the Inspector General's Office," says Gunnels. Jeff Weaver, Sanders' chief of staff, adds, "And they've done absolutely nothing."

So long as the investigation is still open, Gunnels explains, there is no way to request documents pertaining to the case through the Freedom of Information Act. "That investigation will probably stay open a long time," he says.



solvs
Aug 25, 2005, 12:27 AM
I have a feeling this is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. And this, ladies and gentleman, is how Democracy died. I'm still amazed people allow this type of thing to happen, let alone support it.

LethalWolfe
Aug 25, 2005, 01:24 AM
I read that article the other night at work. It was very good, but I think the unnecessary partisan name calling was distracting. Regardless of your political affiliation it's scary that so choke points like those have been allowed to develop in what's supposed to be an open system.


Lethal

LethalWolfe
Aug 25, 2005, 01:32 AM
I'm still amazed people allow this type of thing to happen, let alone support it.

How many people do you think know this how things really work? If this was common knowledge it the guy at Rolling Stone wouldn't have done a big ol' article on it.


Lethal

skunk
Aug 25, 2005, 06:04 AM
How many people do you think know this how things really work?Many outside the States have a pretty good idea. Another reason why there is still a sneaking admiration of Bin Laden: it can appear that flying airliners into buildings is sometimes the only way to reach the target. No matter how virtuous the cause, this US system can sink it, no matter how corrupt, this US system can adopt it. Ethics doesn't even come into the equation. The rest of the world looks on in utter disgust.

Thomas Veil
Aug 25, 2005, 07:47 AM
Another example of American ingenuity...combining the strongest aspects of dictatorships and the Mafia while maintaining the face of a representative democracy.

Is this a great country or what?

Dont Hurt Me
Aug 25, 2005, 11:50 AM
Everyone in Congress is a stand in for some lobbiest breaks down our Govt to its simplist form of how it works today. Is anyone representing the U.S worker? Bill after Bill i would say no way.

mactastic
Aug 25, 2005, 12:06 PM
Two of the things you don't want to know about: How sausage is made and how bills are crafted. And for the same reasons.

One of the biggest problems is the influence of lobbying organizations that are highly organized and well connected. There are no corresponding well-funded and well-connected citizens interest groups to counter them.

I've heard it said that a Senator must raise something on the order of $10,000 a day, seven days a week, to remain competitive for the next election cycle. No wonder those lobbyists donations (or bribes if you'd rather) are hard to refuse. Would you rather spend all day with the masses trying to squeeze $10K in sub-$200 chunks, or would you rather meet with one guy over a $300 dinner who gives you enough to take the rest of the week off from fundraising?

zimv20
Aug 25, 2005, 12:42 PM
Two of the things you don't want to know about: How sausage is made and how bills are crafted. And for the same reasons.
further, i hear that many bills are actually printed onto sausage sheets.

link (http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/cucumber.htm)

gwuMACaddict
Aug 25, 2005, 12:44 PM
i just mailed a letter from the capital hill post office and met donna brazile about 30minutes ago...

bump in to talking heads all over the place down here... thought this would be a good place to post this, just noticed it.

mactastic
Aug 25, 2005, 12:51 PM
i just mailed a letter from the capital hill post office and met donna brazile about 30minutes ago...

bump in to talking heads all over the place down here... thought this would be a good place to post this, just noticed it.
Lol.. did you talk to her?

And how's that taxation without representation thing going? ;)

gwuMACaddict
Aug 25, 2005, 01:00 PM
said hello... that was about it... i was in a rush, and i'm sure she was busy also

LethalWolfe
Aug 25, 2005, 03:39 PM
Many outside the States have a pretty good idea. Another reason why there is still a sneaking admiration of Bin Laden: it can appear that flying airliners into buildings is sometimes the only way to reach the target. No matter how virtuous the cause, this US system can sink it, no matter how corrupt, this US system can adopt it. Ethics doesn't even come into the equation. The rest of the world looks on in utter disgust.

I was meaning more in regards to specifics. I think it's common, unfortunately, to expect corruption in politics, but I still found the Rolling Stone article eye-opening because it gave specifics that I wasn't aware of. The fact that one committee can effectively kill legislation (or completely rewrite it w/o oversight) is appalling.


Lethal

diamond geezer
Aug 25, 2005, 03:47 PM
I read that article the other night at work. It was very good, but I think the unnecessary partisan name calling was distracting. Regardless of your political affiliation it's scary that so choke points like those have been allowed to develop in what's supposed to be an open system.


Lethal

I agree, the name calling cheapens the article a bit.

solvs
Aug 27, 2005, 07:32 PM
How many people do you think know this how things really work?
That's the problem. We know things aren't right, but no one even looks to see how bad things are. You see the occasional story on this, but what ever changes? The main stream press doesn't cover it because they don't think people care. And unfortunetly, they seem to be right.