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entatlrg
Sep 30, 2012, 10:39 AM
Yep, Apple maps pissed me off that much. I love my iPad use it all day every day. Google maps was part of that, Apple maps is unusable for my needs and now I find myself shopping for an Android tablet. Never imagined that day would come.

I read the Asus Transformer is the leader at the moment and gets good tech reviews. Anyone have one or can you suggest a good full size tablet, the nexus 7 is too small.



ChrisTX
Sep 30, 2012, 10:51 AM
Yep, Apple maps pissed me off that much. I love my iPad use it all day every day. Google maps was part of that, Apple maps is unusable for my needs and now I find myself shopping for an Android tablet. Never imagined that day would come.

I read the Asus Transformer is the leader at the moment and gets good tech reviews. Anyone have one or can you suggest a good full size tablet, the nexus 7 is too small.

The Google Nexus 10 has been rumored for a while now. I'd wait for it.

Rodimus Prime
Sep 30, 2012, 11:21 AM
Asus transformer prime is my vote

entatlrg
Sep 30, 2012, 11:29 AM
Yes, that's right, there should be a new Nexus tablet and phone announced soon Some predict October, and if that's the case I'd wait and likely check out the Surface too which should be announced October 25th.

Although it's tempting to buy something now, in that case the Asus may be best contender.

tbayrgs
Sep 30, 2012, 11:57 AM
Yep, Apple maps pissed me off that much. I love my iPad use it all day every day. Google maps was part of that, Apple maps is unusable for my needs and now I find myself shopping for an Android tablet. Never imagined that day would come.

I read the Asus Transformer is the leader at the moment and gets good tech reviews. Anyone have one or can you suggest a good full size tablet, the nexus 7 is too small.

Really? You're considering switching OS because of a single app (which admittedly is much worse than it's predecessor). Ever try this (https://maps.google.com/)?

You are certainly entitled to try any device but really sounds like 'cutting your nose off to spite your face.'

ITS ME DAVID
Sep 30, 2012, 12:06 PM
Get the transformer it just received the jelly been update.

Renzatic
Sep 30, 2012, 12:07 PM
Asus transformer prime is my vote

Bam. This was the tablet that was in contention with the iPad 3 when I grabbed a tablet. It's the best of the bunch when it comes to the larger Android tablets.

AQUADock
Sep 30, 2012, 12:09 PM
Really? You're considering switching OS because of a single app (which admittedly is much worse than it's predecessor). Ever try this (https://maps.google.com/)?

You are certainly entitled to try any device but really sounds like 'cutting your nose off to spite your face.'

I agree it seem a bit much just for a map app.

Vegastouch
Sep 30, 2012, 12:12 PM
Asus Transformer or the SS Tab 2 10.1"

entatlrg
Sep 30, 2012, 12:38 PM
Really? You're considering switching OS because of a single app (which admittedly is much worse than it's predecessor). Ever try this (https://maps.google.com/)?

You are certainly entitled to try any device but really sounds like 'cutting your nose off to spite your face.'

Yes, I tried the google maps web link of course, as well as numerous other maps on the App store. Web apps load too slow and the apps aren't as good as the previous google maps app.

Been an Apple fan for a long time, and yes their maps offering really ticked me off, enough to consider trying something else for a change.

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I agree it seem a bit much just for a map app.

If you used the map app as much as I do and experienced the inadequacies of Apple's map as I have you just might feel the same way.

Renzatic
Sep 30, 2012, 01:21 PM
Unless you're angling for 4G/LTE, the Nexus 7 would probably be your best bet if you're mostly set on getting an Android device for the maps. It's 200 bucks, a bit more portable than a 10" device, and, most importantly, it's quick.

Why spend an extra $300-400 for a little more screen real estate that won't do you much good, when the 7 offers up everything you'll need at a much lower price?

ChazUK
Sep 30, 2012, 01:30 PM
Be aware with Asus tablets. I had the Transformer Prime and thanks to the appalling I/O performance on the tablet, I had to void my warranty and install custom firmware just to get it to perform as I expected it too (it was great after doing that, I was really pissed at having to do it tho).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Q0Qv3m36Q&sns=em

Android police article on the I/O performance on Asus and others: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/07/the-great-android-police-storage-benchmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/#androbench

I do like the look of Sony's new Tegra 3 powered Xperia Tablet S
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/24/3333106/sony-xperia-tablet-s-review

Pity the Nexus 7 is too small though. I do think it is the best Android tablet out there at the moment.

Dolorian
Sep 30, 2012, 04:26 PM
I think the Nexus 7 is the best Android tablet but if it is too small for you then the best option seems to be the Asus Transformer.

Sincci
Sep 30, 2012, 04:44 PM
This one would be my choice: http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/

Southernboyj
Sep 30, 2012, 04:51 PM
The only Android tablet I am really a fan of is the Nexus 7.

madden
Oct 4, 2012, 11:02 PM
Forget the Transformer, get the Galaxy Note 10.1 The Transformer is glitchy and lags a lot and the Note has the superior processor. The build quality of the Note isn't as premium feeling but its nice and light and the S pen adds all sorts of functionality you wont find on the Transformer.

onthecouchagain
Oct 4, 2012, 11:20 PM
It's getting to the point where I'm really fed up with my iPad and its limitations.

thinkinblue613
Oct 5, 2012, 03:54 AM
Try the Nexus 7 out. It made me comfortable enough to sell my iPad 3.

The 7" form factor is a little more comfortable to use. I don't wanna sound like a wuss, but after holding the iPad for awhile, you kinda want to lean it on something other than your wrists.

I'm planning on using it as my main navi and in car entertainment when I get a Bluetooth adapter. The more affordable price with the device and apps are nice. If anyone got one, I'd recommend the 16GB model.

There are rumors of a 3G or 4G model coming out this fall. As well as, a 10" Nexus.

onthecouchagain
Oct 5, 2012, 07:32 AM
Try the Nexus 7 out. It made me comfortable enough to sell my iPad 3.

The 7" form factor is a little more comfortable to use. I don't wanna sound like a wuss, but after holding the iPad for awhile, you kinda want to lean it on something other than your wrists.

I'm planning on using it as my main navi and in car entertainment when I get a Bluetooth adapter. The more affordable price with the device and apps are nice. If anyone got one, I'd recommend the 16GB model.

There are rumors of a 3G or 4G model coming out this fall. As well as, a 10" Nexus.

Wholly agree that the iPad can get "tiring" to hold.

A lighter Nexus 10 would be pretty sweet. I will wait to see if this is unveiled... or to see if there are some holiday deals for the Nexus 7. There's bound to be. If the Nexus 7 32 GB comes out at a reasonable price, it'll be irresistible.

kdarling
Oct 5, 2012, 07:38 AM
I agree it seem a bit much just for a map app.

An app can be critical. Years ago, mllions switched to iPhones mostly because of the browser and a bigger screen to use it on.

As for the tablet, I'm another lover of 7" models for their handiness.

If I were to get another 10", I'd have to go with the Note because of the S pen and multi-windows for some apps. I have no idea if it's as light as the original Tab 10.1, but if it is, that would be another advantage.

unlinked
Oct 5, 2012, 09:12 AM
Asus transformer prime is my vote

I thought the prime had a dodgy gps?
Given maps is important I would probably keep clear of it.

magentawave
Oct 9, 2012, 04:37 PM
Yep, Apple maps pissed me off that much. I love my iPad use it all day every day. Google maps was part of that, Apple maps is unusable for my needs and now I find myself shopping for an Android tablet. Never imagined that day would come.

I read the Asus Transformer is the leader at the moment and gets good tech reviews. Anyone have one or can you suggest a good full size tablet, the nexus 7 is too small.

I had an Asus Transformer for about two weeks where I did lots of side by side comparisons with my iPad. I ended up selling the Asus and keeping the iPad because the speaker on the iPad sounded better and was louder than the Asus. I prefer the openness of the Android over the iPad which is also why I prefer my Android phone instead of an iPhone. I won't trade my Macbook Pro for a Windows laptop though!

Stuntman06
Oct 10, 2012, 03:01 PM
Yep, Apple maps pissed me off that much. I love my iPad use it all day every day. Google maps was part of that, Apple maps is unusable for my needs and now I find myself shopping for an Android tablet. Never imagined that day would come.

I read the Asus Transformer is the leader at the moment and gets good tech reviews. Anyone have one or can you suggest a good full size tablet, the nexus 7 is too small.

I have the original Asus Transformer. The main reason was that it has the best keyboard dock of any tablet available. I do a lot of typing while online, so I want a good input device. I just hate screen keyboards for a long list of reasons. If you do plan on doing any significant amount of typing, I highly recommend you consider one of the ASUS Transformer line of tablets. If you don't do much typing on your tablet at all, then you won't gain as much of a benefit from a Transformer tablet.

blackhand1001
Oct 10, 2012, 03:24 PM
Pretty much any of the tegra 3 Asus tablets. They all have received jellybean.

The tf300 and tf700 have better GPS chips than the prime though. The tf700 is the best of them all. The build quality on it is just as goof as any apple product as well. The tf300 uses cheaper materials and a lower resolution screen while the tf700 has a metal casing. You'll really like Google maps on android. If you thought Google maps on iOS was good you'll be blown away by the android version.

Doggman
Oct 10, 2012, 03:29 PM
Forget the Transformer, get the Galaxy Note 10.1...the Note has the superior processor.

Lol wrong? The TF700 has a 1.6 quad core CPU... Speaking of the TF700, it would be my recommendation. I got one a few months ago and I like it.

blackhand1001
Oct 10, 2012, 03:33 PM
Lol wrong? The TF700 has a 1.6 quad core CPU... Speaking of the TF700, it would be my recommendation. I got one a few months ago and I like it.
Yeah. While the GPU in the exynos quad may theoretically be faster the tegra 3 has much better drivers and has better 2d acceleration performance which android prioritizes over 3d. I have used both devices and the tegra 3 provides a much smoother experience, even in aosp ROMs. I've used a galaxy s2 as well on jellybean cm10 and its way less smooth than my galaxy nexus which has to push twice as many pixels and is apparently weaker. Nvidia may get a lot of flack but they make rock solid GPU binaries. Same with texas instruments. They are much smoother in ICS and jellybean than the exynos.

Doggman
Oct 10, 2012, 04:39 PM
Yeah. While the GPU in the exynos quad may theoretically be faster the tegra 3 has much better drivers and has better 2d acceleration performance which android prioritizes over 3d. I have used both devices and the tegra 3 provides a much smoother experience, even in aosp ROMs. I've used a galaxy s2 as well on jellybean cm10 and its way less smooth than my galaxy nexus which has to push twice as many pixels and is apparently weaker. Nvidia may get a lot of flack but they make rock solid GPU binaries. Same with texas instruments. They are much smoother in ICS and jellybean than the exynos.

Exynos quad? Never heard of that but the TF700 has the nvidia tegra 3 (T33) and the nexus 7 has the (T30L). The T33 is clocked 0.4 MHz faster than the T30L. You might have used the TF700 on ICS but JB just came out for it a week ago unlike the nexus 7 which has had JB since release. JB is responsible for the "much smoother experience". As far as GPU's go I'm fairly certain the TF700 and the nexus 7 have the same GPU - both from nVidia.

blackhand1001
Oct 10, 2012, 04:54 PM
Exynos quad? Never heard of that but the TF700 has the nvidia tegra 3 (T33) and the nexus 7 has the (T30L). The T33 is clocked 0.4 MHz faster than the T30L. You might have used the TF700 on ICS but JB just came out for it a week ago unlike the nexus 7 which has had JB since release. JB is responsible for the "much smoother experience". As far as GPU's go I'm fairly certain the TF700 and the nexus 7 have the same GPU - both from nVidia.

The international s3 and the note 10.1 use the exynos quad core. The tegra 3 provided a smoother experience in ICS than pretty much any other chip. Its even better in jellybean but nvidia really did tailor their drivers for the os.

ucfgrad93
Oct 10, 2012, 05:09 PM
I would go with one of the Samsung Galaxy tablets.

Doggman
Oct 10, 2012, 05:19 PM
The international s3 and the note 10.1 use the exynos quad core. The tegra 3 provided a smoother experience in ICS than pretty much any other chip. Its even better in jellybean but nvidia really did tailor their drivers for the os.

I may have misunderstood your first post... I agree with what you are saying. nVidia ftw. Are ASUS and google going to make a nexus 10? Will that replace the tf700?

entatlrg
Oct 10, 2012, 06:49 PM
Wow, not many 4G Android tablets available. It looks like Android didn't do near as well in the tablet market as they did on smartphones. I wonder why?

Not sure I like the idea of tethering my phone in able to use a tablet. Does anyone tether to their phone often, how do you like it?

What 4G/cellular android tablet would you buy?

Doggman
Oct 12, 2012, 10:28 PM
Wow, not many 4G Android tablets available. It looks like Android didn't do near as well in the tablet market as they did on smartphones. I wonder why?

Not sure I like the idea of tethering my phone in able to use a tablet. Does anyone tether to their phone often, how do you like it?

What 4G/cellular android tablet would you buy?

I plan to use my iPhone 5 to make a 4G hotspot for my ASUS TF700. Not getting the iP5 till Christmas though... :/

cynics
Oct 12, 2012, 11:46 PM
Wow, not many 4G Android tablets available. It looks like Android didn't do near as well in the tablet market as they did on smartphones. I wonder why?

Not sure I like the idea of tethering my phone in able to use a tablet. Does anyone tether to their phone often, how do you like it?

What 4G/cellular android tablet would you buy?

IMO there isn't a good LTE Android on the market currently. That's why I'm still using my LTE Xoom. If they ever make another LTE Nexus tablet ill be all about it.

Orange Furball
Oct 14, 2012, 10:51 AM
Get an HP TouchPad for $100 on ebay, flash Jelly Bean on it, and use that to hold you over until the Nexus 10.

Oh, and welcome to Android! You won't be disappointed ;)

MacRumorUser
Oct 14, 2012, 11:00 AM
Get an HP TouchPad for $100 on ebay, flash Jelly Bean on it, and use that to hold you over until the Nexus 10.

Oh, and welcome to Android! You won't be disappointed ;)


Which is fine if your used to flashing roms, dont mind the hassle of tracking down second hand hardware without any warranty, and using hardware that whilst ok is very much last gen by this stage.

If being careful with money was a concern, id rather spend another $100 and get a Nexus 7 with a faster processor, much better gpu, better screen and reliable software support, oh and a 12 month hardware warranty.

And then in a few months time if you find that 7" is too small, or android is not where you want to be at, you wont lose too much selling it on.

Having a massive learning curve as your first experience of Android, alongside second hand hardware, is never going to be as enjoyable as just getting something that just works out of the box.

Orange Furball
Oct 14, 2012, 12:38 PM
Which is fine if your used to flashing roms, dont mind the hassle of tracking down second hand hardware without any warranty, and using hardware that whilst ok is very much last gen by this stage.

If being careful with money was a concern, id rather spend another $100 and get a Nexus 7 with a faster processor, much better gpu, better screen and reliable software support, oh and a 12 month hardware warranty.

And then in a few months time if you find that 7" is too small, or android is not where you want to be at, you wont lose too much selling it on.

Having a massive learning curve as your first experience of Android, alongside second hand hardware, is never going to be as enjoyable as just getting something that just works out of the box.

I guess I see where you're coming from. I've used android for a few years now so flashing and things like tat are just run of the mill activities

nick_elt
Oct 14, 2012, 02:22 PM
Its not out just yet but is the padfone 2 an option for you. It seems pretty cool. Other than that I would def recommend the note 10.1. I havent used it to be honest but I have the note 2 for a phone and its great. I assume its just bigger???? The split screen is great and I love the s pen.

vastoholic
Oct 15, 2012, 05:44 PM
I've become very interested in the Galaxy Note 10.1 lately. I bought the ipad to use for school and note taking and I've found it to be rather inadquate for that purpose. Really thinking about switching over. I've never used an android device before. Just played with a few in stores.

Edit: well after reading several reviews both positive and negative, I've decided against the note. Are there any 10" android tablets with comparable screens to the iPad? I really don't want to down grade my screen just to have more options in the OS. Everything seems to be 1280 x 800. Perhaps I'll wait til something better is announced. Surely there will be more android tablets released this year.

coldmack
Oct 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
Depends on what features you want. You can get a new Lenovo Thinpad Tablet for about $280 for the 16gb model, you get US support as it's the old IBM support centers, Android 4.0, full size SD if you ever wanted to view photos off you camera, USB GPS, and is splash proof, just in case if you ever have kids playing with it. I am the most Apple purest here, but something about this Thinkpad had me, and replaced my iPad 1 for it. Screen resolution is bog standard and speakers are nothing to write home about, but durability really outweigh those cons.

I wish Apple could make the iPad splash proof and offer a USB port on the device cause it's very useful when all you have is your tablet and someone is sharing their flash drive for document work.

coldmack
Oct 16, 2012, 11:37 PM
I've become very interested in the Galaxy Note 10.1 lately. I bought the ipad to use for school and note taking and I've found it to be rather inadquate for that purpose. Really thinking about switching over. I've never used an android device before. Just played with a few in stores.

Edit: well after reading several reviews both positive and negative, I've decided against the note. Are there any 10" android tablets with comparable screens to the iPad? I really don't want to down grade my screen just to have more options in the OS. Everything seems to be 1280 x 800. Perhaps I'll wait til something better is announced. Surely there will be more android tablets released this year.

The Galaxy Note 10.1 still is the best option if you want to note take as it uses the highly desired Wacom digitizer, they say it's the closes you can get to writing on a pen. The N-Trig, which my Thinkpad Tablet uses is of lower quality vs Wacom, but for my needs/usage I like it. Plus, it's using a quad core Exynos cpu, which is one of the fastest ARM based cpus on the market. From the reviews I read, it seems like all the Note 10.1 needs is root and stock Android rom, not one skinned up by Samsung. Plus, the Samsung has a pen silo, which means you don't really have to worry about forgetting your pen, like one would with the iPad, or tablet not pen enabled.

On the other hand the Asus Transformer Infinity comes with a high res, IPS+ display. Not as high as the iPad, but it is essentially fully HD. It's using the latest Tegra 3 cpu, but I think ram is stuck at 1gb vs some of the even newer devices, which offer 2gb of ram. It offers no pen, so you are stuck using your fingers or finding out, which capacitive stylus works the best with that device, or spend the cash on the keyboard dock.


If you are receptive/don't mind it, Wind'ohs 8 tablet with that disgusting, never be touched Atom CPU, and digitizer(wacom in most cases), will start a little more than many of the higher end Android tablet at around $600 for a 64gb SSD model and maybe with the optional pen.

vastoholic
Oct 16, 2012, 11:59 PM
The Galaxy Note 10.1 still is the best option if you want to note take as it uses the highly desired Wacom digitizer, they say it's the closes you can get to writing on a pen. The N-Trig, which my Thinkpad Tablet uses is of lower quality vs Wacom, but for my needs/usage I like it. Plus, it's using a quad core Exynos cpu, which is one of the fastest ARM based cpus on the market. From the reviews I read, it seems like all the Note 10.1 needs is root and stock Android rom, not one skinned up by Samsung. Plus, the Samsung has a pen silo, which means you don't really have to worry about forgetting your pen, like one would with the iPad, or tablet not pen enabled.

On the other hand the Asus Transformer Infinity comes with a high res, IPS+ display. Not as high as the iPad, but it is essentially fully HD. It's using the latest Tegra 3 cpu, but I think ram is stuck at 1gb vs some of the even newer devices, which offer 2gb of ram. It offers no pen, so you are stuck using your fingers or finding out, which capacitive stylus works the best with that device, or spend the cash on the keyboard dock.


If you are receptive/don't mind it, Wind'ohs 8 tablet with that disgusting, never be touched Atom CPU, and digitizer(wacom in most cases), will start a little more than many of the higher end Android tablet at around $600 for a 64gb SSD model and maybe with the optional pen.

Oh the note 10.1 is still the top contender for me if and when I make the switch unless they update the screen soon. That digitizer was a huge plus for me. I absolutely hate taking notes on my iPad even with apps that have a space to rest your hand while you write. You just can't be as accurate with those nubby ended styli (I guess that's the plural). I just started using a Bamboo tablet for drawing and I love it! Most reviews were complaining about the build quality, saying the plastic was very flimsy and actually creaked when you picked it up and moved it around in your hands.

I think I can get over that and the fact that the screen is lower res as long as I keep my iPad around. I will never trade it in for one though.

Thanks for the other suggestions, but the Note 10.1 seems to be what I need even with it's built in limitations. It appears it would still accomplish what I want better than anything else. Now I just need to find a store that has some on display so I can play around with one.

Stuntman06
Oct 17, 2012, 06:35 AM
Wow, not many 4G Android tablets available. It looks like Android didn't do near as well in the tablet market as they did on smartphones. I wonder why?

Not sure I like the idea of tethering my phone in able to use a tablet. Does anyone tether to their phone often, how do you like it?

What 4G/cellular android tablet would you buy?

I think I only ever tethered my WiFi tablet once or twice in the 16 months that I have owned it. I generally keep my tablet at home unless I am travelling. Practically everywhere I travelled to had WiFi. If I am on the go in my home time, I just carry my phone with me. I personally do not have any use for a 4G tablet. If I want to use my tablet where I don't have WiFi, I would just use the WiFi hotspot feature on my phone. No sense paying for a 4G data plan for may tablet when I don't need it.