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MacRumors
Jul 15, 2001, 07:58 PM
chenlaoshi (mailto:) writes "friend works for apple asia and mailed me this link:

http://www.geocities.com/t_y_ng/indextop07172001.jpg " [local mirror (http://www.macrumors.com/images/flatimac.jpg)]

If that's not real, it's a nice iMac concept. It also correlates to the following submission by Aj:

Aj (mailto:ajnet@ihug.com.au) writes [i]"I was told by a techie that Apple will be doing a change with the iMac screen, but it won't be LCD. It will be some form of flat screen (like the recent EOL DiamonTrons) or the like. Still being CRT they are not as costly, but better quality. I was also told the Graphics cards will be replaced with better gaming cards (16mb) to attract more attention to the iMac. If the screens are bigger.. dont know. But a DVD - CD-RW combo drive is close to guarenteed in the Upper models of the new iMacs.[i]

[Edited by Macrumors on 07-15-2001 at 09:31 PM]

Ummmm.
Jul 15, 2001, 08:00 PM
It'd be nice if the link worked........

arn
Jul 15, 2001, 08:07 PM
replaced the link with a local mirror. (we'll see how long it lasts :) The geocities link works - it just is inconsistent...

arn

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:11 PM
From a blank browser window paste the url. That is how I always have to do a link to geocities.

tomgreever
Jul 15, 2001, 08:13 PM
I like it!

oasamostexianu
Jul 15, 2001, 08:14 PM
It looks an awful lot like a sawed-off snow imac to me...

MacRumors
Jul 15, 2001, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by oasamostexianu
It looks an awful lot like a sawed-off snow imac to me...

very possible...

arn

Djk515
Jul 15, 2001, 08:21 PM
I geuss everyone was right. Half of the rumors said it would be a CRT and the others said there would be an LCD. I geuss that Diamon Tron is a good hybrid. New 16 MB cards are something Macs need. (It'd be nice if they were put on the updated G4's shown Tuesday.) CD-RW/DVD's are great too!

Only a little over 24 hours left.

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:36 PM
My first thought was that it's been photoshopped, and the "hinged arm" in back was a rip off from a flat panel image on the Apple site. However, there is no photo on the apple site of any flat panel at this angle. Eitherway, it's a good idea. I think it'd help refresh the iMac line for the time being....

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:38 PM
Interesting also is the naming convention used for the original image... with the date...

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:40 PM
Anyone have a pic of a snow iMac to compare?

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:47 PM
Check this photo, match up, really...

http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/446922c1e7a8d2b3eb324ec1a5/i-1.JPG

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:49 PM
Uhhh... If it's real, it's LCD - I don't think they can fit a CRT into an enclosure quite that shallow.

Unregistered
Jul 15, 2001, 08:51 PM
The iMac in the image looks like it could tip without too much effort. Does it look too bulky for the legs that are supporting it?

arn
Jul 15, 2001, 09:00 PM
it does match up - but then again, so does every other iMac... (in that Apple does create photos in the same profile).

The thing that makes it most unlikely is that the screen has a similar curvature... in that, an LCD would be flat, as would some of the newer "flat screen" techs. As somone above said - it's be tought to fit a CRT into that casing.

arn

itomato
Jul 15, 2001, 10:00 PM
CRT's have gotten better, but I'd be real surprised if they have managed to make one 3" deep. Plus, that one is most definately not flat. Also, where would the mobo go? Flat up against the back?

Normal Guy
Jul 15, 2001, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by arn
it does match up - but then again, so does every other iMac... (in that Apple does create photos in the same profile).

The thing that makes it most unlikely is that the screen has a similar curvature... in that, an LCD would be flat, as would some of the newer "flat screen" techs. As somone above said - it's be tought to fit a CRT into that casing.

arn

Yeah, the curve makes an LCD unlikely. If it's fake, couldn't the leg have been ripped from a 360 of a display? Also something strange to note. Any pictures of the snow taken by apple have the front leg down. This mac is sitting on it's front rubber pegs. If real, and it uses the hybrid type spoken of earlier, it would be thinner but still have more depth to it. The depth of the one in the picture is barely (if at all) enough for a slot loading DVD,CDR-RW, or combo drive. This would me the mainboard would have to be verticle and would be hard to engineer around the drives.

Some Guy
Jul 15, 2001, 11:53 PM
The low end iMac will be CRT for pure cost reasons. If you want "cheap" you get CRT, tough.

The mid and high end iMac will be LCD of some small-ish size (and be priced accordingly).

CRTs are dirt cheap, but LCDs for use in non-portables are not prohibitively expensive in that price range.

Desktop LCDs have fewer restrictions that laptop LCDs dont have such as power source and size/shape for the "guts" to be fit into.

Frankly the iMacs are not much of a computer, they have no slots or drive bays so there is no need for all the extra electronics, sockets, board space. Much of Apple's chipset has been reduced lately to very few components with a CPU on a daughter card. Thats about all there is to em anymore.

If you saw the prices of components that Apple buys you'd scream bloody murder for deep price cuts. Apple has the highest margins in the Personal Computer market.

Just wait and see. Its only a few days away now. Of course everyone will be bitching and moaning about all aspects of the upgrades (or lack thereof) no matter WHAT Apple does.

mnkeybsness
Jul 16, 2001, 12:52 AM
apple won't make both a crt imac and an lcd imac. if they would do something like that it would be a new line of computer. i agree that diamontron screens would be nice. because i know that imacs won't go lcd.

Ghost
Jul 16, 2001, 02:04 AM
To see the other concept renderings at that site drop the jpg name and just go to the directory. The only thing I found that looked real was the sticker scans.

My vote is the image is a fake or some ones wet dream. As already mentioned the curvature in the display tells us that image is a CRT. Also as mentioned picture tubes have a forward center of gravity that would make that thing likely tip forward too easy. And lastly, has anyone ever seen a picture tube with that short a depth!

DDJ
Jul 16, 2001, 04:20 AM
There's no way this is real. Like a few people have said, this would not be a sturdy desktop computer. I would think having the machine fall on its face every few days would probably be a bad thing.

No way =)
DDJ

lelereb
Jul 16, 2001, 06:47 AM
It seem like a fat butter block!

Too large on the top, with pig like feet.

A Photoshopped image.

swessels
Jul 16, 2001, 07:22 AM
No way.

That enclosure does not look deep enough for the slot loading CD.

msiegal
Jul 16, 2001, 07:41 AM
BS.

Thinking to yourself, "boy, that sure looks like a sawed-off iMac with a Apple display support foot on the back."

You'd be right. That's so very clear an AppleWorks job it cracks me up.

We just won't know until the 18th.

fbcfabric
Jul 16, 2001, 09:06 AM
are you lot seriously considering this thing to be the next generation iMac? itís the ugliest thing i have ever seen in my life. i have full trust of Jobs eye for design, and i am sure that if that was put in front of him he would either laugh or cry...

take a look at all the other apple products, then take a step back and consider the last two products released... now tell me that this is the new iMac

d_wipper
Jul 16, 2001, 09:44 AM
This thing is so incredibally fake it's not even funny. Someone chopped of the back of an iMac and stuck a flat panal display on it. Duh.

msiegal
Jul 16, 2001, 09:45 AM
I completely agree. If you've ever read anything about the development of the NeXT platform you'd know jobs is beside himself about cosmetics.

ymarks
Jul 16, 2001, 10:50 AM
Uhhh....Half of snow iMac.
The stand is the Apple Cinema displays'

Spiky
Jul 16, 2001, 12:07 PM
Well, the picture clearly shows a curved screen. Not exactly likely to be a 'flat' monitor of any sort.

Why do people keep begging for 16MB video in desktops? The last run of iMacs have 16 and PowerMacs have 32.

ryanmumm
Jul 16, 2001, 12:44 PM
At least the creator of this image could have faked a background to make it look like a 'spy photo.' The rear foot is ripped directly of a studio display. Let's all thank Apple for painstakingly uniform product angles so that a novice photoshop user could waste our time.

Patience is a virtue. Two more days.

MattB
Jul 16, 2001, 01:07 PM
There is NO way a CRT would fit in that mock up! NO WAY, NO HOW!


LCD iMacs are coming on Wednesday. WATCH OUT!

adsfadsf
Jul 16, 2001, 01:30 PM
While I agree that this particular image is probably a fake, (and way too front-heavy) I think the idea has something going for it.

Specifically, I think that this type of design is very plausible. It's tight, but there's just enough space in there for a short-neck CRT and the CD-ROM(/whatever) drive. Fitting the motherboard around those two is trivial -- have you seen the size of Apple's recent mobos?

It also fits with all the rumors -- not an LCD iMac, but close in concept. After all, I don't think most people are about LCDs per se as much as they are about the space savings and "coolness" that they provide. This provides the best of both worlds -- uncannily slim, but still affordable.

Alex

stochast
Jul 16, 2001, 08:02 PM
The front of the iMac picture is IDENTICAL to the front of the "flower power" iMac at the top of http://www.apple.com/imac/ down to the shading and picture size.

(212)
Jul 17, 2001, 06:16 AM
doesn't look like an lcd screen to me. Unless its a new convexed on to made to look like a crt display!!!

blakespot
Jul 17, 2001, 08:07 AM
You're right... It's obviously (and positively) taken from that flower iMac image. It's, therefore, a fake.

Somewhat dissapointing. (Tho all I care about personally is a new G4 tower!!)


blakespot