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gadget123
Oct 10, 2012, 04:46 AM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now. Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.



hawk1410
Oct 10, 2012, 04:48 AM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now. Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.

I wouldn't really say this has a lot to do with the iPhone 5, Samsung has always had multiple Galaxy devices with different screen sizes to cater to different kinds of people with different preferences

master-ceo
Oct 10, 2012, 06:23 AM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now.

I hope not. 4" ugly as hell.

GoCubsGo
Oct 10, 2012, 06:36 AM
As long as there is choice, I would think 4" would be the max screen size I'd want in a phone. Therefore, I think in that respect they got it right.

Dave.UK
Oct 10, 2012, 06:51 AM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now. Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.

How do you work that one out? Just because YOU dont want a bigger screen, dosent mean its not what everyone else wants - otherwise explain the success of the Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note and Galaxy Note 2?

Apparently 4" was too big not that long ago, then Apple said its ok and now everyone loves the 4" screen!

Dave.UK
Oct 10, 2012, 06:53 AM
http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/mobiles/4-inch-s3.jpg

The smaller version of the S3 will be released tomorrow in Germany. Samsung says that although it'll be smaller, it won't have sawn-off specs. Full details are yet to be confirmed, but it's understood the 4-inch phone will be called the S3 mini.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-4-inch-version-to-challenge-iphone-50009434/

GoCubsGo
Oct 10, 2012, 06:57 AM
Wow that is very cool. I do love the SGS3 but it is so large. This is probably perfect.

Chundles
Oct 10, 2012, 06:58 AM
So by "won't have sawn off specs" they mean "WILL have sawn off specs"??

800x480
1GHz unknown (not Exynos) processor
5MP camera

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/10/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-mini/

It's €399 which converts to ~A$500 or a little more than iPhone 4 money.

So it's a cheap Galaxy, not a mini Galaxy S III.

GroundLoop
Oct 10, 2012, 07:04 AM
So by "won't have sawn off specs" they mean "WILL have sawn off specs"??

800x480
1GHz unknown (not Exynos) processor
5MP camera

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/10/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-mini/

It's €399 which converts to ~A$500 or a little more than iPhone 4 money.

So it's a cheap Galaxy, not a mini Galaxy S III.

At first, I was excited...then I was disappointed. I think that Samsung is truly trying to mimic Apple...even down to the hype not living up to reality.

GL

MacRumorUser
Oct 10, 2012, 07:10 AM
Was really excited to read this "Samsung says that although it'll be smaller, it won't have sawn-off specs", and then I read the specs. :(

See I if this had actually had the specs of the GSS3 (ok maybe slightly smaller resolution screen granted) I would have sold my One X in a heartbeat and snapped one of these up straight away, without hesitation.

But at moment doing so would be a major step down. :(

Disappointed, as a 4" flagship android would suit me so much better and addressed most of my issues with using my android handset, , so for me this isn't so much flagship now as 'sadship' :( :(

MacRumorUser
Oct 10, 2012, 07:17 AM
Sadly the 4" SGS3 Mini is contrary to Samsung's assertions, cut down a heck of a lot in specs. :( (no quad core, no HD screen, reduced camera to 5mp etc..) otherwise for me it would have replaced my 4.7" One X, which I find a little too wieldy for me personally.

There is no right and wrong for screen size, its all subjective and is what the consumer feels comfortable with. Samsung just realise there was a gap for a 4" flagship model (much like how HTC had the One X & One S) I just wish that they hadn't slashed the specs alongside the screen size. :( That is there only mistake as far as I'm concerned as I would have dropped the € straight away on a 4" SGS3.

Oletros
Oct 10, 2012, 07:42 AM
I predicted a flood of 4" phones now

Like the ones that exists now?

cynics
Oct 10, 2012, 07:46 AM
I predicted people would think Apple was a trend setter with a 4" screen.

Firstly there have alway been 4" Android devices. LG Lucid, Motorola Droid 4, Pantech Breakout, Sony Xperia Play and even (drum roll), Samsung Stratosphere. So how exactly can there be a flood of 4" screen phones on a market that's already flooded with them?

Secondly, People want small phones, not small screens. Take the Razr M for example. It's similar in size to the iPhone 4/4S however it has a 4.3" screen. Why couldn't apple do this? Instead they make the phone bigger and the screen only slightly bigger.

Mrg02d
Oct 10, 2012, 07:48 AM
Just a 4in screen with no HD?

iPhone 5 kills it then. Ive got the GS3. There is no way I would accept a 4in android phone with no HD display. Id rather look at boring iOS on the iPhone 5 or 4s.

daveathall
Oct 10, 2012, 07:56 AM
I agree with the above that people want smaller phones rather than smaller screens. I have posted this elsewhere but the iPhone 5 is not a great deal smaller than a SGS3.

Iphone 5 on top of a SGS3.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00148.jpg


But the screen size difference is startling.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00168.jpg

tmanto02
Oct 10, 2012, 08:05 AM
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/samsung-launching-new-four-inch-galaxy-s-iii/

Wow! I'm not sure if this bugs me or pleases me. Apple obviously made the right choice in making the iPhone 5 screen only 4 inches.

Samesung ;)

cynics
Oct 10, 2012, 08:17 AM
I predict. "Omgz S3 mini is TOO small to use with one hand!" Since its overall dimension will likely be less then the iPhone 5.

Get over it people! Samsung has been making 4" screen phones for OVER 2 YEARS with the Galaxy S (June 2010).

Oletros
Oct 10, 2012, 09:00 AM
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/samsung-launching-new-four-inch-galaxy-s-iii/

Wow! I'm not sure if this bugs me or pleases me. Apple obviously made the right choice in making the iPhone 5 screen only 4 inches.

Samesung ;)

You know that Samsung have had different screen sizes since the beginnning, that it has nothing to do with the iPhone.

Samesung?

tmanto02
Oct 10, 2012, 09:04 AM
You know that Samsung have had different screen sizes since the beginnning, that it has nothing to do with the iPhone.

Samesung?

Yes however this is not a Galaxy Ace or another basic Samsung phone, it is their flagship device

cynics
Oct 10, 2012, 09:11 AM
You know that Samsung have had different screen sizes since the beginnning, that it has nothing to do with the iPhone.

Samesung?

It's crazy isn't it? The 5 has so much going for it but people will try to find more even if its totally off the wall stuff.

The next phone that is as thin or thinner then the 5 will be labeled as a "copy cat". Never mind there were phones thinner then previous iPhone versions. Saying the iPhone copied thinner phones does not compute, but vice versa and its a wannabe.

cynics
Oct 10, 2012, 09:14 AM
Yes however this is not a Galaxy Ace or another basic Samsung phone, it is their flagship device

When those phones were released years ago they were flagship devices. Not sure about the Ace but the S was.

MacRumorUser
Oct 10, 2012, 09:16 AM
I agree with the above that people want smaller phones rather than smaller screens. I have posted this elsewhere but the iPhone 5 is not a great deal smaller than a SGS3.

Iphone 5 on top of a SGS3.

Image (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00148.jpg)


But the screen size difference is startling.

Image (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00168.jpg)

You picked my post to demonstrate your theorem ;) !! yay



Here are same shots but with my One X & iPhone 5 for size comparison


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pgiguere1
Oct 10, 2012, 09:18 AM
This is basically a Galaxy S Advance (http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/GT-I9070HKABTU) in disguise to fool customers into buying a low-end phone thinking they get a miniaturized version of their flagship.

It also helps with media attention to call it Galaxy S III mini. See how we're discussing about this but not the Galaxy S Advance just because it's (rightfully) associated with the 2 year old Galaxy S line.

daveathall
Oct 10, 2012, 09:21 AM
You picked my post to demonstrate your theorem ;) !! yay

And there I was thinking that I was being subtle.:eek: so good I had to read it twice.:)


Back to the drawing board.:)

Oletros
Oct 10, 2012, 09:22 AM
Yes however this is not a Galaxy Ace or another basic Samsung phone, it is their flagship device

The Galaxy 3 Mini flagship device?

Whit its specs it is a low-mid range device
This is basically a Galaxy S Advance (http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/GT-I9070HKABTU) in disguise to fool customers into buying a low-end phone thinking they get a miniaturized version of their flagship.

It also helps with media attention to call it Galaxy S III mini. See how we're discussing about this but not the Galaxy S Advance just because it's (rightfully) associated with the 2 year old Galaxy S line.

Exactly

MacRumorUser
Oct 10, 2012, 09:33 AM
And there I was thinking that I was being subtle.:eek: so good I had to read it twice.:)


Back to the drawing board.:)

LOL.. I've updated my post so you can see how it looks on the One X & iPhone 5 ;)


Strangely 4" - 4.7" doesn't look quite so dramatic in the example I give ? I wonder if the way tapatalk frames that specific post entry makes it look less of a dramatic difference.

daveathall
Oct 10, 2012, 09:40 AM
LOL.. I've updated my post so you can see how it looks on the One X & iPhone 5 ;)


Strangely 4" - 4.7" doesn't look quite so dramatic in the example I give ? I wonder if the way tapatalk frames that specific post entry makes it look less of a dramatic difference.

Thank you.:)

I must admit that it is a bit of an optical illusion without the iPhone 5 for reference, both the HTC and Samsung seem overly large.

cynics
Oct 10, 2012, 09:59 AM
I'm looking forward to the official specs. Rumors are saying this will be a budget phone. Which is a shame that Samsung would use their S3 name on it. For me even if all the internals were the same I'd still want the standard S3 for the screen size.

It would be a tough sale for Samsung to come at Apple with the s3 mini if the specs were high and the price was the same. It's probably better to market this at a low to mid range phone. Just wish they wouldn't use the S3 name.

b24pgg
Oct 10, 2012, 10:21 AM
Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.
Not everyone likes to have their lives dictated by Apple. A lot of people like having choices. Some people like bigger screens (as evidenced by the S3's sales figures.)

lazard
Oct 10, 2012, 10:33 AM
Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.

Maybe in the US. In SE Asia, bigger phones are more popular.

identity
Oct 10, 2012, 10:47 AM
Are people really that dense? Why are people acting like there hasn't been 4 inch phones before? This thread is just a flame troll fanboy thread.

ChazUK
Oct 10, 2012, 11:12 AM
Samsung (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-3115.php)
Have (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_focus-3453.php)
Never (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s-3620.php)
Offered (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8700_omnia_7-3537.php)
A (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_s8600_wave_3-4126.php)
Four (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9070_galaxy_s_advance-4469.php)
Inch (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_rugby_pro_i547-5019.php)
Handset (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_i8250-4857.php).

Will their copying ever end? :D

lazard
Oct 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
Are people really that dense? Why are people acting like there hasn't been 4 inch phones before? This thread is just a flame troll fanboy thread.

Indeed, Samsung alone has 10 smartphones on the market that have a 4" display.

golf1410
Oct 10, 2012, 11:32 AM
Samsung galaxy S3 mini spec is not so good.

Rodimus Prime
Oct 10, 2012, 12:06 PM
Are people really that dense? Why are people acting like there hasn't been 4 inch phones before? This thread is just a flame troll fanboy thread.

welcome to the world of stupid Apple fan boys.

Honestly I am not surprised to see 4" come back. Phones were getting insane in how big they were getting. If you go back and look at cell phones from the past you will see they kept shinking until they got pretty damn small then they figured out people did not them that small and they started growing in size again. This is before the smart phone crazy.

Now smart phones keep growing in size and they are finding out people want smaller ones.

lazard
Oct 10, 2012, 12:19 PM
welcome to the world of stupid Apple fan boys.

Honestly I am not surprised to see 4" come back. Phones were getting insane in how big they were getting. If you go back and look at cell phones from the past you will see they kept shinking until they got pretty damn small then they figured out people did not them that small and they started growing in size again. This is before the smart phone crazy.

Now smart phones keep growing in size and they are finding out people want smaller ones.

the 4" never left; it just doesn't get the same press that the larger phones get.

riveting
Oct 10, 2012, 02:05 PM
The old galaxy S2 at 4.3inch would be a much better choice than this SIII mini, at least S2 does not have a crippled camera, and have a better CPU and possibly GPU.

Tarzanman
Oct 10, 2012, 02:18 PM
At first, I was excited...then I was disappointed. I think that Samsung is truly trying to mimic Apple...even down to the hype not living up to reality.

GL

mmmm, no. Maybe you should learn what you're talking about before you post?

The original Galaxy S - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
Introduced in March 2010 with a 4-inch screen.

Go ahead a look at a list of iphone 5's features and remind me who is copying who again?

TheHateMachine
Oct 10, 2012, 05:06 PM
People really think that Apple brought about the 4 inch devices, JTFC people have dun gone full Robert Downey Jr.

Stuntman06
Oct 10, 2012, 05:20 PM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now. Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.

There were 4" phones out for a couple of years like the original Galaxy S, the Nexus S. Your prediction is overdue.

ChazUK
Oct 10, 2012, 05:28 PM
I bet back in the day, the 3.5 inch supporters were singing the praises of this article:
http://gizmodo.com/5847981/this-is-why-the-iphones-screen-will-always-be-35-inches

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2011/10/fourinches.jpg

Who are now singing the praises of the 4 inch screen. :D

Oh how times change.

smellysox8
Oct 10, 2012, 05:36 PM
Is this thread implying that Samsung is copying Apple by using a 4" screen? :confused:

Dave.UK
Oct 10, 2012, 05:43 PM
Is this thread implying that Samsung is copying Apple by using a 4" screen? :confused:

I think so. You couldnt make it up!

MacRumorUser
Oct 10, 2012, 05:45 PM
Is this thread implying that Samsung is copying Apple by using a 4" screen? :confused:


There was two threads. When they merged it's kind of made it look like that. It's all a bit of a non event really.

Seems like some folks aren't happy to believe anyone would want a big screen on a phone, whereas those opposing folks can't seem to believe anyone would want anything smaller. It's all a bit juvenile.

There is personal preference and subjective opinion, there is no right and wrong because it could be right for a, wrong for b and vice versa. Just silliness, people arguing for sake of arguing.

Trungy
Oct 10, 2012, 06:48 PM
I want my screens bigger. Not smaller. Phablet please!

sarcosis
Oct 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
I want my screens bigger. Not smaller. Phablet please!

Isn't that the Galaxy Note II? I've got the Note and it's great for around the house, but when I need to use it out and about with one hand, no chance. I'm glad that 4" is getting traction. Only if we could get a 4" Android phone with the same specs as a 4.8". Totally bummed when I saw they were nerfing the specs for the new Mini Galaxy <whatever> they are going to announce tomorrow. While I know it hasn't been confirmed spec wise, it's probably close enough to call it.

ChrisTX
Oct 10, 2012, 07:23 PM
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/samsung-launching-new-four-inch-galaxy-s-iii/

Wow! I'm not sure if this bugs me or pleases me. Apple obviously made the right choice in making the iPhone 5 screen only 4 inches.

Samesung ;)

The original Galaxy S phone 3 years ago had a 4" screen. It's time to move on, and Samsung realizes this. ;)

Fernandez21
Oct 10, 2012, 08:33 PM
This kinda shows the lack of options in the 4" arena. If you want a high end phone at 4", iPhone is the only choice, everyone else uses this space as budget phone territory.

GroundLoop
Oct 10, 2012, 09:01 PM
mmmm, no. Maybe you should learn what you're talking about before you post?

The original Galaxy S - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
Introduced in March 2010 with a 4-inch screen.

Go ahead a look at a list of iphone 5's features and remind me who is copying who again?

Apparently your sarcasm detector is malfunctioning.

GL

nba1341
Oct 10, 2012, 09:15 PM
galaxy s3 mini is a budget phone just with the galaxy s3 name attached since its a popular seller


People want phones bigger than 4 inch. Those who can't afford it settle with 4 inch

Vegastouch
Oct 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
See here:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-confirmed-by-samsung-chief-for-october-11

I predicted a flood of 4" phones now. Hopefully they realise too big is not what people want.

Um, Samsung had a 4" screen phone with the Galaxy S 1. The 4" GS3 mini was made mostly for i think Germany where it is prefered but should make its way around to other countrys.

4" is still too small IMO. 4.3" should be the starting point. Though i like my GS3 and its 4.8" screen, if i went down id prefer to go no lower than 4.5"

The GS3 is a great phone so if they wanted to make it with two different size screens, i think its a good idea.

MacBH928
Oct 10, 2012, 11:15 PM
I used s3 and its too huge to operate as a phone.
I think this might be the perfect thing to eat into Apple's market share, which is a good thing because then Apple will offer better features for lower prices. Competition

Stuntman06
Oct 11, 2012, 01:35 AM
There was two threads. When they merged it's kind of made it look like that. It's all a bit of a non event really.

Seems like some folks aren't happy to believe anyone would want a big screen on a phone, whereas those opposing folks can't seem to believe anyone would want anything smaller. It's all a bit juvenile.

There is personal preference and subjective opinion, there is no right and wrong because it could be right for a, wrong for b and vice versa. Just silliness, people arguing for sake of arguing.

It's a good thing that there are so many phones available with so many different sizes of screens. I'm sure anyone will be able to find a screen size they are happy with.

MacRumorUser
Oct 11, 2012, 02:39 AM
galaxy s3 mini is a budget phone just with the galaxy s3 name attached since its a popular seller


People want phones bigger than 4 inch. Those who can't afford it settle with 4 inch

Stop this stupid genererlisation.

People who can't afford? I just paid €900 for an iPhone 5.

If I could get the S3 or One X fully packed into similar dimensions I'd pay for that too. As it is my iPhone 5 is now my main phone and my HTC one X is my MP3 player and a development tool.

sneaky butcher
Oct 11, 2012, 02:44 AM
disapointing specs if the rumors are true.

might just get an s2 instead depending on price

Oletros
Oct 11, 2012, 03:18 AM
People want phones bigger than 4 inch. Those who can't afford it settle with 4 inch

First we have fanboy that says that people wants iPhone and those that can't afford them buy Android phones

Now we have fanboys that says that people wants phones bigger than 4" and those that can't afford them buy smaller phones

HappyJB
Oct 11, 2012, 08:01 AM
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/samsung-launching-new-four-inch-galaxy-s-iii/

Wow! I'm not sure if this bugs me or pleases me. Apple obviously made the right choice in making the iPhone 5 screen only 4 inches.

Samesung ;)

But, Sammy is basically saying that "Apple! you calling it 'BIG', we calling it 'mini'"

Spec may not be all. If Jelly Bean works well with the mini, then it would be great.

ugahairydawgs
Oct 11, 2012, 08:44 AM
Just a shameful use of marketing by Samsung here. This phone, with it's crap specs and low res screen, has no business having the words Galaxy SIII mentioned anywhere near anyone describing this phone. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to try and gouge up the low end cell phone market on the back of the Galaxy SIII name.

Would be the same thing if Apple released a crappy netbook and called it a Macbook Pro Mini.

Patriks7
Oct 11, 2012, 09:36 AM
I bet back in the day, the 3.5 inch supporters were singing the praises of this article:
http://gizmodo.com/5847981/this-is-why-the-iphones-screen-will-always-be-35-inches

Image (http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2011/10/fourinches.jpg)

Who are now singing the praises of the 4 inch screen. :D

Oh how times change.

That's why the screen was only stretched and the width stayed the same... :confused:

ChazUK
Oct 11, 2012, 10:42 AM
That's why the screen was only stretched and the width stayed the same... :confused:

Because the extra length will affect the way you reach the top or bottom corners opposite your thumb looking at this picture:

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2011/10/fourinches.jpg

Also, the title:
This Is Why the iPhone’s Screen Will Always Be 3.5 Inches

Always?

cynics
Oct 11, 2012, 11:55 AM
I played with a friends S3. Reaching the top wasn't to difficult.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/12/zytutesu.jpg

I consider myself to have average size hands.

The thing is, you rarely need to reach the top left. I play with it for an hour or so and that google search was the only thing, even then you didn't need too because the keyboard popped up to start typing. iOS apps on the other hand usually have a back/cancel button at the top left. Reaching that with a case on the phone requires as much of a hand adjustment as the s3 and the screen is significantly smaller. I don't see apple making anything bigger then 4" without an overhaul on most apps.

Btw typing is just as easy as my 4S maybe even more so since the keys are bigger.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/12/4y6ygury.jpg

Btw please ignore those stupid searches, this friend of mine is a little eccentric.

onthecouchagain
Oct 11, 2012, 12:30 PM
Once again... freedom of choice. 4.8 too big? 4 too small? Here's a 4.6"

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426

Looks pretty good design wise too.

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I played with a friends S3. Reaching the top wasn't to difficult.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/12/zytutesu.jpg)

I consider myself to have average size hands.

The thing is, you rarely need to reach the top left. I play with it for an hour or so and that google search was the only thing, even then you didn't need too because the keyboard popped up to start typing. iOS apps on the other hand usually have a back/cancel button at the top left. Reaching that with a case on the phone requires as much of a hand adjustment as the s3 and the screen is significantly smaller. I don't see apple making anything bigger then 4" without an overhaul on most apps.

Btw typing is just as easy as my 4S maybe even more so since the keys are bigger.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/12/4y6ygury.jpg)

Btw please ignore those stupid searches, this friend of mine is a little eccentric.


Yes. This argument of impossible-one-hand use has always been a myth. It's easier on a smaller device, obviously, but it's not impossible on a device as larger as the S3. We are talking literally a few millimeters of difference in reachability. In fact, the S3 is so thin that I found it somewhat easier to reach for than my smaller Galaxy Nexus.

And you really hit the nail on the head... you just don't have a need to reach the top left corner that often. The dedicated back button is a thing of beauty.

ChazUK
Oct 11, 2012, 12:31 PM
Once again... freedom of choice. 4.8 too big? 4 too small? Here's a 4.6"

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426

Looks pretty good design wise too.

Doesn't look bad at all. My only beef with Samsung for releasing so many phones is the way it takes them an age to update the lesser models.

daveathall
Oct 11, 2012, 12:39 PM
Once again... freedom of choice. 4.8 too big? 4 too small? Here's a 4.6"

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426

Looks pretty good design wise too.

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Yes. This argument of impossible-one-hand use has always been a myth. It's easier on a smaller device, obviously, but it's not impossible on a device as larger as the S3. We are talking literally a few millimeters of difference in reachability. In fact, the S3 is so thin that I found it somewhat easier to reach for than my smaller Galaxy Nexus.

And you really hit the nail on the head... you just don't have a need to reach the top left corner that often. The dedicated back button is a thing of beauty.


I'm right handed, I just don't put any apps in the top left corner of the screen, I put them in the optimum position for me. Something that can't be done on an iPhone.

MacBH928
Oct 11, 2012, 12:39 PM
Doesn't look bad at all. My only beef with Samsung for releasing so many phones is the way it takes them an age to update the lesser models.

I never was a fan of fragmentation/multiple choices. It only confuses the consumer. Many companies do this type of thing where they would release multiple version of a product with highly any difference with multiple names.

I just looked up Samsung, they have these smart phones:
-S3 -Galaxy Pocket -galaxy S advanced -Wave III -Wave M -Galaxy Y Pro -galaxy W ...the list goes on

Apple has iPhone 5 only.

onthecouchagain
Oct 11, 2012, 12:45 PM
Apple has iPhone 5 only.

And that, for some people, is the problem.

darster
Oct 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
Quite amusing. All their full page ads and tv commercials telling us that the GS3 is so much better because of the bigger screen, and now they are going to come out with a 4 inch screen. Another APPLE WIN!

http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-iii-mini-with-smaller-size-and-smaller-specs-7000005639/

Mr Hill
Oct 11, 2012, 01:03 PM
It's not even a gs3. It's one of their lower end phones like the exhibit 4g or galaxy blaze 4G but with a GS3 outer shell. The Galaxy S2 has better specs than this phone.

thadoggfather
Oct 11, 2012, 01:03 PM
Yeah i'm confused by this too.

Why not even 4.3" (GS2) instead of 4.8" (GS3 current).

Rolling back to 4.0" would be sooo Galaxy S 1st gen :rolleyes:

iPhone 5S should be 3.7" just to stick it to them ! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

smellysox8
Oct 11, 2012, 01:10 PM
Quite amusing. All their full page ads and tv commercials telling us that the GS3 is so much better because of the bigger screen, and now they are going to come out with a 4 inch screen. Another APPLE WIN!

http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-iii-mini-with-smaller-size-and-smaller-specs-7000005639/
Where were you when Apple released the 4" screen after telling people for years that 3.5" is the best? Samsung has released a 4" before, is it really shocking they would do it again?


You make it seem like Samsung is copying Apple, where fact is that Apple is playing catch up.

jabingla2810
Oct 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
Wait, didn't Samsung do 4" phones way before Apple?

chakraj
Oct 11, 2012, 01:13 PM
How dare they give people options so they can choose what is best for them. That is just sneaky business practice.

They should make one device and shove it down everyone's throats, we all know one size fits all.

Thats bad business.

Mrbobb
Oct 11, 2012, 01:14 PM
All Apple competitors play this game: We give you MORE for less$ AND it looks Just like the real thing!

To me, a big phone ceases to be a phone and not something am kin to carry around, and am unanimous on that.

boy-better-know
Oct 11, 2012, 01:14 PM
I am loving the iPhone 5 so far, but I would prefer it to be a 5". Would love a beastly iPhone.

Anyway, it seems like Samsung is saying that the 4" screen is inferior to the GS3 screen, putting the mini galaxy and iPhone 5 into the same category.

DanteMann
Oct 11, 2012, 01:17 PM
Apple has iPhone 5 only.

And that right there is the very reason I hate Apple's product line, NO CHOICE. More people than ever are looking at options other than Apple. The people that wanna be spoon fed will more than likely buy Apple, and the people that don't want to be told what to and how to do it (when it comes to their mobile device), will buy something else.

dmelgar
Oct 11, 2012, 01:18 PM
Samsung is releasing a cheap cut rate smaller phone. This continues the Android narrative that smaller means cheaper, less powerful phone.

Its nothing new. Nothing exceptional. Samsung either doesn't want to produce a powerful small phone or realized that its not that easy and they don't know how to.

Apple has always been minimalist. Make a few products as possible but do them well. Samsung is throwing scattershot. Produce something for everyone, every possible screen size. Try to throw in every feature anyone can think of, don't worry if it doesn't work all that well. Makes for newspaper ads with bigger lists.

darngooddesign
Oct 11, 2012, 01:19 PM
Nope. What Samsung thinks is good is having phones in different sizes to appeal to different people.

Jman13
Oct 11, 2012, 01:20 PM
Too bad it doesn't have the same hardware as the real GS3, and the screen is horrible. 480x800 on a 4" device isn't AWFUL, but it's a little behind the times. The fact that it's pentile AND 480x800, though, is awful. Pentile screens need to be really high res to not look like crap.

Frankly, I might be tempted to try an Android handset at 4", provided it's got similar hardware specs to other top end devices. Android NEEDS a high end, 4-4.2" handset, and this doesn't solve that problem for them. Crappy screen, last year's processing power and a crappy camera.

MagnumOP
Oct 11, 2012, 01:21 PM
"Also, my long-standing theory has been that Android phones went to 4.5-inch (and greater) super-size displays because it was too hard engineering-wise to fit LTE chipsets and batteries strong enough to power them into smaller form factors."

From daringfireball.net

sc4rf4c3
Oct 11, 2012, 01:26 PM
I don't see what's wrong with having choices.

darster
Oct 11, 2012, 01:27 PM
But a 4 inch screen is so old, sooo Apple. What? People still like a 4 inch screen? Over 5 million 4 inch Iphone 5's sold in one week? Quick, make a smaller phone and label it the GS3 mini. That way, people will still think it's better.

Timzer
Oct 11, 2012, 01:38 PM
But a 4 inch screen is so old, sooo Samsung. What? People actually like a 4 inch screen? But Steve said nobody wants a 4 inch screen, and all us blind followers believe that. Over 30 million 4 inch Galaxy S sold? Quick, make a bigger phone and label it the iPhone 5 and sue Samsung. That way, people will still think it's better.


There you go little fella, fixed it to coincide with reality. ;)

Jman13
Oct 11, 2012, 01:41 PM
I don't see what's wrong with having choices.

There's nothing wrong with choices. In fact, I think the Android world NEEDS high end 4" phones. The problem with this announcement is that the phone sucks. It's 4" and carries the S3 name, but has NOTHING other than aesthetics in common with the S3. It's literally a Galaxy S Advance with an S3 body shape. So, it's slower than the GSII, which is over a year old, has a horrible 480x800 pentile screen (pentile sucks...at that resolution, there are 768K subpixels. Compare this to the 2.18 million subpixels in the iPhone 5 display and the 1.38 million subpixels in the iPhone 4S and 4 displays).

It's a mid to low end phone that's trying to ride the name of the Galaxy S3. If it were truly an S3 packed into a 4" device, it would be an awesome option (one that I might actually be tempted to try out). As it is, no thanks.

Sdahe
Oct 11, 2012, 01:41 PM
It looks like Samsung is copying Apple once again

sc4rf4c3
Oct 11, 2012, 01:45 PM
It looks like Samsung is copying Apple once again

Do you know that the Galaxy S that came out in 2010 has 4" screen?

Sdahe
Oct 11, 2012, 01:48 PM
Thank you all I'll be here all Saturdays and Mondays

Technarchy
Oct 11, 2012, 01:51 PM
I don't see what's wrong with having choices.


The blah specs on the smaller device is not really a choice for those that don't want a platter phone.

It's a low end phone with Touchwiz. Nothing more.

sc4rf4c3
Oct 11, 2012, 01:53 PM
There's nothing wrong with choices. In fact, I think the Android world NEEDS high end 4" phones. The problem with this announcement is that the phone sucks. It's 4" and carries the S3 name, but has NOTHING other than aesthetics in common with the S3. It's literally a Galaxy S Advance with an S3 body shape. So, it's slower than the GSII, which is over a year old, has a horrible 480x800 pentile screen (pentile sucks...at that resolution, there are 768K subpixels. Compare this to the 2.18 million subpixels in the iPhone 5 display and the 1.38 million subpixels in the iPhone 4S and 4 displays).

It's a mid to low end phone that's trying to ride the name of the Galaxy S3. If it were truly an S3 packed into a 4" device, it would be an awesome option (one that I might actually be tempted to try out). As it is, no thanks.

Agreed. It should never have the S3 name with those mediocre specs.

daveathall
Oct 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
The blah specs on the smaller device is not really a choice for those that don't want a platter phone.

It's a low end phone with Touchwiz. Nothing more.

Platter? A S3 is not much bigger than an iPhone 5.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00148.jpg

Technarchy
Oct 11, 2012, 02:31 PM
Platter? A S3 is not much bigger than an iPhone 5.

Image (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00148.jpg)

Yeah, it is actually

Stuntman06
Oct 11, 2012, 02:33 PM
I never was a fan of fragmentation/multiple choices. It only confuses the consumer. Many companies do this type of thing where they would release multiple version of a product with highly any difference with multiple names.

I just looked up Samsung, they have these smart phones:
-S3 -Galaxy Pocket -galaxy S advanced -Wave III -Wave M -Galaxy Y Pro -galaxy W ...the list goes on

Apple has iPhone 5 only.

I would have gotten the Mini if it were available a few months ago when I needed to get a new phone. I find that the SGS3 is too big for my liking. The One S did not have enough storage and was not exandable which was a deal breaker for me. The Motorola XT860 was already a year old. I ended up with the SGS3, but would have welcomed an additional choice of a 4" version.

daveathall
Oct 11, 2012, 02:37 PM
Yeah, it is actually

I have both and disagree.

onthecouchagain
Oct 11, 2012, 02:39 PM
I have both and disagree.

You're wasting your time with Technarchy. Only Apple can decide what's the correct size for him.

TheHateMachine
Oct 11, 2012, 02:46 PM
I have both and disagree.

Do not bother wasting a time with a reply to Technarchy. It is like getting your truck stuck in the mud. So stuck you would need a crane to get it out. Only problem is you do not have a crane.

cotak
Oct 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
I agree with the above that people want smaller phones rather than smaller screens. I have posted this elsewhere but the iPhone 5 is not a great deal smaller than a SGS3.

Iphone 5 on top of a SGS3.

Image (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00148.jpg)


But the screen size difference is startling.

Image (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc236/daveathall/DSC00168.jpg)

Exactly. The things that people believe which doesn't match reality. The galaxy nexus I have feels smaller in my pocket than my 4 ever did. Cause it's lighter and slimmer.

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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/10/samsung-launching-new-four-inch-galaxy-s-iii/

Wow! I'm not sure if this bugs me or pleases me. Apple obviously made the right choice in making the iPhone 5 screen only 4 inches.

Samesung ;)

Face->palm. There has been tons of smaller Samsung phones already.

http://mashable.com/2012/03/06/samsung-galaxy-pocket/

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You're wasting your time with Technarchy. Only Apple can decide what's the correct size for him.

Hope that doesn't extends to the twig and berries. Cause that might require either enlargement or reduction surgery... :cool:

ChazUK
Oct 11, 2012, 03:08 PM
Exactly. The things that people believe which doesn't match reality. The galaxy nexus I have feels smaller in my pocket than my 4 ever did. Cause it's lighter and slimmer.

My life.... Don't you know that anything bigger than an iPhone is unmanageable in a pocket or a hand?

I carry my iPhone in my pocket and that's it. My Galaxy Nexus, wallet, car keys, in ear headphones all have to reside in a rucksack.

The rucksack is handy too as it leaves both of my hands free to handle my gargantuan* Nexus and wallet with two hands as they're simply too big.

*gargantuan compared to the perfect dimensions of the iPhone.

Warning: post may contain sarcasm. Ingredients prepared in a sarcasm filled environment. Do not consume if you are allergic to sarcasm.

F123D
Oct 11, 2012, 03:23 PM
Thank you all I'll be here all Saturdays and Mondays

Today isn't Saturday or Monday though..

darster
Oct 11, 2012, 03:25 PM
And Samsung will be overloaded with pre orders and people standing in line for this exciting new phone. That would be a first.

n00byn4t3r
Oct 11, 2012, 03:29 PM
While I agree with some people here posting those photo's of the iPhone 5 not being that much smaller, but in the hand the difference is bigger and when you put it in the middle it also looks like less of a difference. Non the less they should make the bezels smaller with the next design iteration.

Sdahe
Oct 11, 2012, 05:49 PM
Today isn't Saturday or Monday though..
That's right... That was part of the promo before saturday or monday

macness
Oct 11, 2012, 07:45 PM
So much for Samsung and Android users clowning on iPhone screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini/4505-6452_7-35484855.html

KeepCalmPeople
Oct 11, 2012, 07:50 PM
I think it's a shrewd move by Samsung. It eliminates the excuse that many people have that an S III is just too big to use with one hand or put in your pocket.

AFDoc
Oct 11, 2012, 07:53 PM
I say what the heck, why not. If they have the $$ and don't mind losing some of it why not produce something they think might compete with the i5?

aziatiklover
Oct 11, 2012, 07:59 PM
Next is the galaxy note II mini with a 5" display! ;) with samsung there is always a size for that! From 2.8" to 10.1

AppleFan91
Oct 11, 2012, 08:15 PM
Honestly, I think it's their main competitor for the iPhone 4 and 4S price range. The S3 competes feature for feature with the 5, but for the low price and mid price area, they needed something with a strong name, or mini version of their best phone

monkor
Oct 11, 2012, 08:17 PM
I think it's a shrewd move by Samsung. It eliminates the excuse that many people have that an S III is just too big to use with one hand or put in your pocket.

Pretty much. It isn't a bad move at all moving into a market they were performing badly in (users who prefer a 4-inch screen) with a presumably good phone.

It's no different than Apple saying "3.5 is perfect!" And then shortly thereafter saying "4.0 is perfect!" Same story.

XboxMySocks
Oct 11, 2012, 08:17 PM
"including one that keeps the screen lit when you glance at the camera"
What? :confused: That doesn't make sense... You have to look at the camera to make the screen viewable? What about looking at the screen to make the screen viewable :s

jkim3691
Oct 11, 2012, 08:19 PM
Aren't the hardware specs completely nuked on the mini S3? It would be intriguing if it had the same power as the regular S3...

smellysox8
Oct 11, 2012, 08:23 PM
So much for Samsung and Android users clowning on iPhone screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini/4505-6452_7-35484855.html
Does Apple have a 4.5" + iPhone? Guess Apple.is still getting clowned

Peace
Oct 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
I find it eerily creepy that they are even calling it a "mini".

Lindsford
Oct 11, 2012, 08:33 PM
They always do this. Make a smaller version of a good phone and make the specs meh. Is it that difficult to build a powerful 4inch phone?

jaysen
Oct 11, 2012, 08:33 PM
I agree with everyone else... Good move on samsungs part to compete with those who complain the s3 is too big

KieranDotW
Oct 11, 2012, 09:11 PM
wow I thought this was a joke... but I wonder where the tall but not wide 4" screen came from

ixodes
Oct 11, 2012, 09:19 PM
I think it's a shrewd move by Samsung. It eliminates the excuse that many people have that an S III is just too big to use with one hand or put in your pocket.

Well said.

Many have greatly underestimated how serious Samsung is about the smartphone sector.

pgiguere1
Oct 11, 2012, 09:22 PM
The Galaxy SIII mini is basically a Galaxy S Advance (http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/GT-I9070HKABTU) in disguise to fool customers into buying a low-end phone thinking they get a miniaturized version of Samsung's flagship.

It also helps with media attention to call it Galaxy S III mini. See how we're discussing about this but not the Galaxy S Advance just because it's (rightfully) associated with the 2 year old Galaxy S line.

The Galaxy SIII mini doesn't really compete with the iPhone 5. Since it's basically a modified version of the original Galaxy S, it's more of an iPhone 4 competitor. See the specs list and you'll understand why.

Sure it runs the latest version of Android, which is cool for a low-end Android phone, but you shouldn't always have to buy new hardware to get the latest version of an OS anyway.

maccompatible
Oct 11, 2012, 09:24 PM
They always do this. Make a smaller version of a good phone and make the specs meh. Is it that difficult to build a powerful 4inch phone?

Apple did it.

TM WAZZA
Oct 11, 2012, 09:34 PM
800x480

Enough said

xraydoc
Oct 11, 2012, 09:40 PM
So much for Samsung and Android users clowning on iPhone screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini/4505-6452_7-35484855.html

Very low res. screen (800x480 pentile AMOLED), slow processor, no LTE, downgraded camera. Isn't really a Galaxy S3 now, is it?

While the specs aren't really that bad for a mid-range device, the GS3 is supposed to be a high-end device. I guess they were unable to simply make an S3 with a 4" screen.

Makes you wonder if the reason Samsung is making 4.8" phones is to cover up the fact that they can't cram it in to a smaller package.

F123D
Oct 11, 2012, 09:41 PM
So much for Samsung and Android users clowning on iPhone screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini/4505-6452_7-35484855.html

Considering Samsung is calling a 4" screen a "mini", sounds like the iPhone is still being clowned on.

Dmaynard83
Oct 11, 2012, 09:55 PM
I think this just shows that Samsung failed at compressing the Galaxy S3 while maintaining/improving specs the way the iphone 5 did.

5MP camera - downgrade from 8MP
VGA frontfacing camera - downgrade from 1.9MP
1GHz processor - downgrade from 1.5GHz (that still was outperformed by i5)
No LTE - LOL, they better do something about this before putting this in US
Smaller battery
Still plastic

This phone is a joke and should be distanced from the Galaxy S3 as much as possible.

And I think saying this phone is meant for emerging markets is just marketing's way of putting a spin on this because they made a ****** product and want to make a buck.

monkor
Oct 11, 2012, 10:58 PM
I think this just shows that Samsung failed at compressing the Galaxy S3 while maintaining/improving specs the way the iphone 5 did.

5MP camera - downgrade from 8MP
VGA frontfacing camera - downgrade from 1.9MP
1GHz processor - downgrade from 1.5GHz (that still was outperformed by i5)
No LTE - LOL, they better do something about this before putting this in US
Smaller battery
Still plastic

This phone is a joke and should be distanced from the Galaxy S3 as much as possible.

And I think saying this phone is meant for emerging markets is just marketing's way of putting a spin on this because they made a ****** product and want to make a buck.

Have you even used it yet?

Specs wise, it sounds like a piece of junk, sure. But specs wise the iPhone 4S sounded like crap too compared to other phones out. With an underclocked 800mhz dual core processor and skimpy RAM, no specs person was getting a chub. Guess what? It runs like the after effects of a laxative, which is to say very smooth and fluid.

Who is to say this phone won't? The camera is only 5MP, but dont play the MP game, not worth it. The phone either takes good pictures or it does not. And it's not out in the US right now, so why add LTE? LTE isn't out in lots of other countries.

Dmaynard83
Oct 11, 2012, 11:11 PM
Have you even used it yet?

Specs wise, it sounds like a piece of junk, sure. But specs wise the iPhone 4S sounded like crap too compared to other phones out. With an underclocked 800mhz dual core processor and skimpy RAM, no specs person was getting a chub. Guess what? It runs like the after effects of a laxative, which is to say very smooth and fluid.

Who is to say this phone won't? The camera is only 5MP, but dont play the MP game, not worth it. The phone either takes good pictures or it does not. And it's not out in the US right now, so why add LTE? LTE isn't out in lots of other countries.

Your comparing apple processor's which are optimized and use their own customized processors to Samsung's, who are known for pumping higher power processors (which do not always equal faster as is the case of s3 to i5). In this case Samsung downgraded (and don't use their own optimized/customized processors), so its a moot point.

Apple released a phone that is just as small or smaller than the mini, WITH LTE and all around better specs (not to mention better OS).

I guess Samsung will have to continue to releasing big-ass phones like the Galaxy Note II and S3 to get higher power.

TM WAZZA
Oct 11, 2012, 11:17 PM
Have you even used it yet?

Specs wise, it sounds like a piece of junk, sure. But specs wise the iPhone 4S sounded like crap too compared to other phones out. With an underclocked 800mhz dual core processor and skimpy RAM, no specs person was getting a chub. Guess what? It runs like the after effects of a laxative, which is to say very smooth and fluid.

Who is to say this phone won't? The camera is only 5MP, but dont play the MP game, not worth it. The phone either takes good pictures or it does not. And it's not out in the US right now, so why add LTE? LTE isn't out in lots of other countries.

Umm apple is different. iPhone is made to run on iOS optimally. Android isn't. It's one for all. Which is why you see apple's dual core beating quad cores.

Now, the mini is android and with the underwhelming specs you can bet it will be a underwhelming experience too

monkor
Oct 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
Your comparing apple processor's which are optimized and use their own customized processors to Samsung's, who are known for pumping higher power processors (which do not always equal faster as is the case of s3 to i5). In this case Samsung downgraded (and don't use their own optimized/customized processors), so its a moot point.

Apple released a phone that is just as small or smaller than the mini, WITH LTE and all around better specs (not to mention better OS).

I guess Samsung will have to continue to releasing big-ass phones like the Galaxy Note II and S3 to get higher power.

I'm not comparing processors, I'm stating that specs aren't the be all end all. For people who love specs, yes. But I've used that Android 4.1 on a phone with the same specifications, and an older processor, and I can tell you first hand that having lower specs really isn't going to be noticeable.

If this phone was running 4.0 I would agree it might be a mess. But there's an enormous leap in functionality between the two, and 4.1 is much easier on processors than older OS. I mean, you cite benchmarks and that's fine, but look at an SIII running 4.1 and it beats the i5 in raw numbers. Still, I can argue that the iPhone 5 is just as smooth or smoother than an SIII running anything.

I'm not even sure the mini can be considered a flagship phone like the SIII can.

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Umm apple is different. iPhone is made to run on iOS optimally. Android isn't. It's one for all. Which is why you see apple's dual core beating quad cores.

Now, the mini is android and with the underwhelming specs you can bet it will be a underwhelming experience too

I'm a betting man, so I know bets aren't always right. Underwhelming specs do not equate poor experience at all. As I said in response to another poster, you can assume, but it is not a certainty. Android 4.1 does a lot with a little. It isn't on many devices, but it is on this one. The end experience may very well be enjoyable.

TM WAZZA
Oct 12, 2012, 12:10 AM
I'm not comparing processors, I'm stating that specs aren't the be all end all. For people who love specs, yes. But I've used that Android 4.1 on a phone with the same specifications, and an older processor, and I can tell you first hand that having lower specs really isn't going to be noticeable.

If this phone was running 4.0 I would agree it might be a mess. But there's an enormous leap in functionality between the two, and 4.1 is much easier on processors than older OS. I mean, you cite benchmarks and that's fine, but look at an SIII running 4.1 and it beats the i5 in raw numbers. Still, I can argue that the iPhone 5 is just as smooth or smoother than an SIII running anything.

I'm not even sure the mini can be considered a flagship phone like the SIII can.

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I'm a betting man, so I know bets aren't always right. Underwhelming specs do not equate poor experience at all. As I said in response to another poster, you can assume, but it is not a certainty. Android 4.1 does a lot with a little. It isn't on many devices, but it is on this one. The end experience may very well be enjoyable.

lol. even the android forums are bashing Samsung for not doing the Galaxy name justice.

just accept it, this is a midrange phone it's not supposed to run like a high end android

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 12:13 AM
Wait wait wait, iOS fanatics... I thought specs weren't important?

Oh, it is when Apple has them, but when the competition doesn't have them, suddenly "these specs suck!"

Awesome.

Just like how when the iPhone 4/4S was heavy, it gave it a premium feel. But now that it's not heavy anymore, ha-ha, look at how much lighter it is compared to the competition.

So awesome.


Anyway, the SIII mini is clearly a mid-range phone meant to compete with the 4S, the HTC One S, the Lumia 820, the HTC 8S, etc. Get over it.

What's interesting is this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426
Galaxy Premier, a 4.6 incher.

Mr Hill
Oct 12, 2012, 12:16 AM
The phone is just a Samsung exhibit 4G or galaxy blaze with a GS3 outer shell. Other than having the latest os already installed, it doesn't really have anything over those low end devices Samsung already has on the shelves.

They're calling it a GS3 mini in hopes that people will believe that they will get a similar experience to the GS3 but only on a smaller screen. But the experience will not be the same due to the poor specs. Even the GS2 has this thing beat in performance.

When I first heard about this phone I was hoping it would have similar specs to the gs3. It would've been interesting to see what type of effect it would have had on the market. Oh well.

monkor
Oct 12, 2012, 12:20 AM
There are probably fanatical individuals on that forum, as well. Neither fan base knows how it's going to perform. Which is what I'm saying. That the Android fans are bashing it is somewhat funny, though.

I never even suggested it was anything other than another Galaxy phone that is running the latest OS and is intruiging. It has a 4 inch screen, and may offer a good experience. Is it going to supplant the S3 as the flagship phone? Probably not; why would it? Samsung releases a bunch of phones for a lot of different people all the time. If you're ballin' on a budget, this one will likely be for you.

Dmaynard83
Oct 12, 2012, 12:21 AM
Wait wait wait, iOS fanatics... I thought specs weren't important?

Oh, it is when Apple has them, but when the competition doesn't have them, suddenly "these specs suck!"

Awesome.

Just like how when the iPhone 4/4S was heavy, it gave it a premium feel. But now that it's not heavy anymore, ha-ha, look at how much lighter it is compared to the competition.

So awesome.


Anyway, the SIII mini is clearly a mid-range phone meant to compete with the 4S, the HTC One S, the Lumia 820, the HTC 8S, etc. Get over it.

Samsung makes dirty adds talking about specs guy so I look at the specs of their new phone. It's funny they make a dirty add yet the iPhone still outperforms it and reviews only prove this.

Second you talk about heaviness = quality. There is some truth in this but even though the i5 is lighter it definitely doesn't feel cheap like a plastic phone would.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 12:26 AM
Samsung makes dirty adds talking about specs guy so I look at the specs of their new phone. It's funny they make a dirty add yet the iPhone still outperforms it and reviews only prove this.


Uh, the ad was for the GSIII, whose specs mostly match or beat the iPhone's. If you want to compare fairly, try the 4S to the Galaxy Mini. Or try the iPhone 5 to actual high-end phones (doesn't even have to be Androids).

Dmaynard83
Oct 12, 2012, 12:29 AM
Uh, the ad was for the GSIII, whose specs mostly match or beat the iPhone's. If you want to compare fairly, try the 4S to the Galaxy Mini. Or try the iPhone 5 to actual high-end phones (doesn't even have to be Androids).

Check reviews and you will see why the iPhone 5 beats the s3 even though "some" of the specs seem to beat the i5.

I think the processor is faster and it has NFC. But benchmarks of the i5 outperform the s3, so yea I think that's it.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 12:35 AM
Check reviews and you will see why the iPhone 5 beats the s3 even though "some" of the specs seem to beat the i5.

I think the processor is faster and it has NFC. But benchmarks of the i5 outperform the s3, so yea I think that's it.


The iPh5 is an amazing device. I don't doubt its feats. So you're saying specs shouldn't matter?

I agree. This whole thread is null.

Dmaynard83
Oct 12, 2012, 12:40 AM
The iPh5 is an amazing device. I don't doubt its feats. So you're saying specs shouldn't matter?

I agree. This whole thread is null.

Not according to a company who touts their phones on specs.

Mr Hill
Oct 12, 2012, 12:48 AM
Uh, the ad was for the GSIII, whose specs mostly match or beat the iPhone's. If you want to compare fairly, try the 4S to the Galaxy Mini. Or try the iPhone 5 to actual high-end phones (doesn't even have to be Androids).

It doesn't even match the 4S. Maybe the iPhone 4 would be a better comparison.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 01:12 AM
Not according to a company who touts their phones on specs.

The concept of low to mid to high-end range of phones is lost on you. Not much can be said if you don't understand it.

I'm in no way even a fan of the Galaxy Mini (or the S3 for that matter), but I don't go comparing the iPhone 4 or 4S to the GSIII as if they matter to each other.

Oletros
Oct 12, 2012, 02:46 AM
So much for Samsung and Android users clowning on iPhone screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini/4505-6452_7-35484855.html

While the specs aren't really that bad for a mid-range device, the GS3 is supposed to be a high-end device. I guess they were unable to simply make an S3 with a 4" screen.

I think this just shows that Samsung failed at compressing the Galaxy S3 while maintaining/improving specs the way the iphone 5 did.

Or perhaps they didn't even tried to "compress" the specs.

GSIII Mini is only a low-mid range smartphone, nothing more. Like the Galaxy Mini compared with the Galaxy S

nick_elt
Oct 12, 2012, 03:01 AM
Yes however this is not a Galaxy Ace or another basic Samsung phone, it is their flagship device

Have you seen the specs? Its not a flagship phone

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 05:07 AM
Have you seen the specs? Its not a flagship phone

But it is masquerading itself in a flagship ballroom gown and name-badge.

Lindsford
Oct 12, 2012, 06:13 AM
Wait wait wait, iOS fanatics... I thought specs weren't important?

Oh, it is when Apple has them, but when the competition doesn't have them, suddenly "these specs suck!"

Awesome.

Just like how when the iPhone 4/4S was heavy, it gave it a premium feel. But now that it's not heavy anymore, ha-ha, look at how much lighter it is compared to the competition.

So awesome.


Anyway, the SIII mini is clearly a mid-range phone meant to compete with the 4S, the HTC One S, the Lumia 820, the HTC 8S, etc. Get over it.

What's interesting is this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426
Galaxy Premier, a 4.6 incher.

Specs aren't everything, but don't try to pretend like this phone isn't a joke. Low res screen, 5mp? They put s3 on it to try and sell it off as a top notch phone. Samsung and their sketchy marketing. Lol forget comparing it to the 4/4s. Compare it to the 3GS

nick_elt
Oct 12, 2012, 06:41 AM
Wait wait wait, iOS fanatics... I thought specs weren't important?

Oh, it is when Apple has them, but when the competition doesn't have them, suddenly "these specs suck!"

Awesome.

Just like how when the iPhone 4/4S was heavy, it gave it a premium feel. But now that it's not heavy anymore, ha-ha, look at how much lighter it is compared to the competition.

So awesome.


Anyway, the SIII mini is clearly a mid-range phone meant to compete with the 4S, the HTC One S, the Lumia 820, the HTC 8S, etc. Get over it.

What's interesting is this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Model-previously-thought-to-be-Galaxy-Nexus-II-turns-out-to-be-the-Galaxy-Premier_id35426
Galaxy Premier, a 4.6 incher.

All of those phones that you mentioned are much better phones than the s3mini. The one s is pretty amazing

Dmaynard83
Oct 12, 2012, 09:57 AM
The concept of low to mid to high-end range of phones is lost on you. Not much can be said if you don't understand it.

I'm in no way even a fan of the Galaxy Mini (or the S3 for that matter), but I don't go comparing the iPhone 4 or 4S to the GSIII as if they matter to each other.

When the 4s and 4 were first released they were all high end phones guy. The Galaxy Mini has just been announced and it's already in the mid to low end phone ranges. Do you get it now?

cynics
Oct 12, 2012, 11:08 AM
Why would they put the same processor in the "mini" to drive a small low res screen?

Look at the benchmarks of the iPad 2 vs 3. Only thing the processor is doing is pushing more pixels around.

daveathall
Oct 12, 2012, 12:11 PM
I cant see what all the fuss is about TBH, Samsung have a flagship phone called the S3, they have introduced a less specked phone with a smaller screen called the S3 mini. Apple have a flagship phone called the iPhone 5, they also have a less specked phone with a smaller screen called the iPhone 4S.

riveting
Oct 12, 2012, 12:16 PM
The only problem I see is why don't they just keep selling Galaxy S2 as the mid range phone rather than creating a new S3 mini that is actually inferior compare to S2 (except for the updated software)

I cant see what all the fuss is about TBH, Samsung have a flagship phone called the S3, they have introduced a less specked phone with a smaller screen called the S3 mini. Apple have a flagship phone called the iPhone 5, they also have a less specked phone with a smaller screen called the iPhone 4S.

Mark.Galbreath
Oct 12, 2012, 12:26 PM
welcome to the world of stupid Apple fan boys.

Honestly I am not surprised to see 4" come back. Phones were getting insane in how big they were getting. If you go back and look at cell phones from the past you will see they kept shinking until they got pretty damn small then they figured out people did not them that small and they started growing in size again. This is before the smart phone crazy.

Now smart phones keep growing in size and they are finding out people want smaller ones.

If my iPad 3 had a phone embedded in it and could send/receive SMS text messages, that is all I would use. The only thing I use my 4S for is SMS messaging and phone calls. My wife upgraded her phone last week and decided that in price v. performance, the Samsung Galaxy S3 was a much better deal than the iPhone 5. I looked into upgrading my 4S to 5 and Verizon wants $850 to change phones if you are still within a current contract. Even when my contract expires next September, Verizon wants $450 to service the 5 v. $200 for any Droid-based phone. I love my Apples and have been an Apple evangelist since my first computer - a Mac 512 - in 1985, but these contract service charges will force me to go back to a Droid phone.

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 12:27 PM
The concept of low to mid to high-end range of phones is lost on you. Not much can be said if you don't understand it.


Stop the constant patronisation for heavens sake..