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hallaisen
Oct 11, 2012, 07:55 PM
I'm getting my first Android after having stuck with the iPhone since the original one was released.

I really like the HTC One X+, but would much prefer stock android and timely updates. This is a really tough one for me! Anyone else have the same dilemma?



3bs
Oct 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
I'm getting my first Android after having stuck with the iPhone since the original one was released.

I really like the HTC One X+, but would much prefer stock android and timely updates. This is a really tough one for me! Anyone else have the same dilemma?

What do you like about the HOX+ and what do you like about the upcoming LG Nexus (which we still don't have any solid info about)?

quest7
Oct 11, 2012, 08:01 PM
What about the HTC incredible X?

http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/htc-droid-incredible-x-google-nexus-5-specs-surface-powerhouse-26155/

tbayrgs
Oct 11, 2012, 08:03 PM
I'm getting my first Android after having stuck with the iPhone since the original one was released.

I really like the HTC One X+, but would much prefer stock android and timely updates. This is a really tough one for me! Anyone else have the same dilemma?

Assuming the new LG Nexus hardware meets your needs (i.e. only 8 or 16 GB of memory, no expansion), I'd personally go the Nexus route. I had a Galaxy Nexus for a few months, didn't love the hardware but did like the fact that I had JB as soon as it was released. And as you're coming from iOS, it'll drive you nuts not be able to get updates as they're first available--at least it would've pissed me off. And yes, I'm sure the next bunch of posts after mine will say it doesn't matter because you can always unlock/root it and flash whatever ROM you like. If that interests you, then just get the best hardware available to suit your needs. Me personally, I don't have the interest in it, just want the latest from Google.

If I ever get another Android device, it'll be another Nexus. Just looks like it won't be the upcoming LG if the memory rumors are true. :(

hallaisen
Oct 11, 2012, 08:07 PM
From the leaked photos of the LG Nexus I prefer the HTC design. And everyone is raving about the HOX screen, which is important to me as well. I do wish it would come with 2gb of RAM instead of 1, and it would have been great if they had updated the camera as well though.

Spec-wise it seems like the LG Nexus will beat the HOX+ in most areas, but for some reason I trust the quality of an HTC phone more than the quality of an LG phone.

Also, I'll probably be able to get my hands on the HOX+_sooner than the LG. I'm itching to get rid of my iPhone 4S.

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Assuming the new LG Nexus hardware meets your needs (i.e. only 8 or 16 GB of memory, no expansion), I'd personally go the Nexus route. I had a Galaxy Nexus for a few months, didn't love the hardware but did like the fact that I had JB as soon as it was released. And as you're coming from iOS, it'll drive you nuts not be able to get updates as they're first available--at least it would've pissed me off. And yes, I'm sure the next bunch of posts after mine will say it doesn't matter because you can always unlock/root it and flash whatever ROM you like. If that interests you, then just get the best hardware available to suit your needs. Me personally, I don't have the interest in it, just want the latest from Google.

If I ever get another Android device, it'll be another Nexus. Just looks like it won't be the upcoming LG if the memory rumors are true. :(

Storage is no issue for me at all. The less the better, really, as long as it has at least 8gb. I stream all my media.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 11, 2012, 09:31 PM
I was debating this until today. I went to the store and used a HOX. I could never live with sense personally. And who knows when a stable rom will be out for the HOX+. And rooting is something I just don't feel like dealing with.

So it's the LG nexus or another nexus.

hallaisen
Oct 11, 2012, 10:09 PM
I was debating this until today. I went to the store and used a HOX. I could never live with sense personally. And who knows when a stable rom will be out for the HOX+. And rooting is something I just don't feel like dealing with.

So it's the LG nexus or another nexus.

I just went and quickly tried a HOX on my lunch as well. I found it way too laggy and would never even consider buying a phone that stutters that much, but I assume this is a non-issue on jelly bean.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 12:02 AM
The HTC One X is one of the most overrated Android devices. It's terribly clunky to hold and operate with -- the ergonomics are just dreadful. And that top sleep/power button is the worse thing ever.

sotorious
Oct 12, 2012, 01:53 AM
I'm waiting for the lg nexus to fully expose it self of not I'm going to the note 2.

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 05:14 AM
I just went and quickly tried a HOX on my lunch as well. I found it way too laggy and would never even consider buying a phone that stutters that much, but I assume this is a non-issue on jelly bean.

That device probably wasn't even running the last update Android 4.0.4 & Sense 4.1 which smoothed out nearly all the lag the phone had initially. The lag was due to the Sense 4 half-baked 3D effect which they rectified in 4.1

With Jellybean & Sense 4+ (rolling out officially this month, but some of us on the Elevate programme have already received) makes the phone very nippy indeed and only in rare instances do I suffer any lag on JB.


It's terribly clunky to hold and operate with -- the ergonomics are just dreadful. And that top sleep/power button is the worse thing ever.

No more so than ANY big android device and yes I have held the SGS3 and Note in my hands at this stage to compare.

As for the power button thing, that personal subjective preference and not fact. Some of us who are left handed hate when they put the power button on devices on the side as ergonomically it is wrong for us. So having the power button on the top at least means we don't make the frustrating mistake whilst holding the phone of knocking it into standby.






But OP if your concerned about being as close to Stock AOSP as possible and the quickest delivery of updates, then a NEXUS device really is the only way to go.


In regards to the HOX+, there's little advantage over the international HOX tbh (more storage, better front facing camera) and the extra battery isn't too dramatic when its got a slightly faster CPU meaning battery life will probably be much the same as the existing One X in actual usage.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 12, 2012, 09:51 AM
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 11:32 AM
No more so than ANY big android device and yes I have held the SGS3 and Note in my hands at this stage to compare.

As for the power button thing, that personal subjective preference and not fact. Some of us who are left handed hate when they put the power button on devices on the side as ergonomically it is wrong for us. So having the power button on the top at least means we don't make the frustrating mistake whilst holding the phone of knocking it into standby.



I've handled both the S3 and the One X and I can say that the S3 is far easier to handle. The S3 felt thinner, was even throughout, and felt more ergonomic. That's just my experience.

I cannot disagree with you more about the power button on top. For such a large device that position is flat out wrong. The side power button makes infinitely more sense in every way possible. For right handers, the thumb is always near by. For left handers, the index finger is always near by.

In no situation is the top ever preferable. It makes you have to adjust your hand to reach up there with a finger. And for such a large device, it's a bit of a long way to go. The only other option is to use a second hand. I don't get how the side button is worse for you if you're left handed. It's closer than the top button will ever be to your fingers wrapped around the device. It's not that hard to avoid if you don't want to press it. Do you constantly hit the volume up and down buttons too? If you can consciously avoid that big button, I don't see why you can't avoid a smaller one.

If it works for you, that's dandy.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 11:45 AM
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

I suspected this may be the reason they're going with an 8GB one. To keep the price extremely low. That's an amazingly low entry price for such a high-end device. So kudos to them.

But I don't see why there can't be a 32GB option too.

TheBigKing
Oct 12, 2012, 11:57 AM
Nexus are day htc sucks i buy the htc one x the quad core one and sense sucks and the battery life its horrible i prefer the nexus i am looking for the lg nexus

PDFierro
Oct 12, 2012, 12:08 PM
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

I wonder what will happen to the Galaxy Nexus if the LG Nexus is at a price point that low. Either vanish from the store due to all the other Nexus devices appearing, or have an even lower price point?

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 12:12 PM
If those prices for the LG are true, I actually might hock my One X for a 16GB LG Nexus myself.

riveting
Oct 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
Interesting, maybe a time to get a used Galaxy Nexus if this is out.:D
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

daveathall
Oct 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

That pricing looks superb, I will seriously consider buying the 16GB flavour.

3bs
Oct 12, 2012, 12:16 PM
If those prices for the LG are true, I actually might hock my One X for a 16GB LG Nexus myself.

I'll be doing the same with my S3. Even better if there's a 32GB version.

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 12:19 PM
I've handled both the S3 and the One X and I can say that the S3 is far easier to handle. The S3 felt thinner, was even throughout, and felt more ergonomic. That's just my experience.

I cannot disagree with you more about the power button on top. For such a large device that position is flat out wrong. The side power button makes infinitely more sense in every way possible. For right handers, the thumb is always near by. For left handers, the index finger is always near by.

In no situation is the top ever preferable. It makes you have to adjust your hand to reach up there with a finger. And for such a large device, it's a bit of a long way to go. The only other option is to use a second hand. I don't get how the side button is worse for you if you're left handed. It's closer than the top button will ever be to your fingers wrapped around the device. It's not that hard to avoid if you don't want to press it. Do you constantly hit the volume up and down buttons too? If you can consciously avoid that big button, I don't see why you can't avoid a smaller one.

If it works for you, that's dandy.


This is how I hold a phone in my left hand.

The power button on nexus devices is usually right where my top finger is on the right of the device.

Hence YES I DO find the power button could be hit accidentally, and hence prefer it to be on top.

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You always seem to write responses (not only in this thread) to people as if you somehow know better than anyone else and that we are doing is something wrong if we dare to have another user experience or opinion. You come across very arrogant / patronising - even if this is not your intent.

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 01:08 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=be&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.onliner.by%2F2012%2F10%2F12%2Flg-nexus-4-review%2F

Seems positive review other than the surprisingly poor benchmark results.

3880 on Quadrant ? 6500 anTUTU ? :o:o:o

Will wait for these to be confirmed, but they are a little disappointing. :o

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3bs
Oct 12, 2012, 01:24 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=be&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.onliner.by%2F2012%2F10%2F12%2Flg-nexus-4-review%2F

Seems positive review other than the surprisingly poor benchmark results.

3880 on Quadrant ? 6500 anTUTU ? :o:o:o

Will wait for these to be confirmed, but they are a little disappointing. :o

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Agreed. Those results are very disappointing if true.

In terms of looks I think it looks great in that last picture! And is that the LED notifier in the middle under the home button? That's also a micro SIM if I'm not mistaken?

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 01:57 PM
You always seem to write responses (not only in this thread) to people as if you somehow know better than anyone else and that we are doing is something wrong if we dare to have another user experience or opinion. You come across very arrogant / patronising - even if this is not your intent.

I'm sorry.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 12, 2012, 02:00 PM
I'm happy about the notification light! And I must admit this thing look sexier and sexier every time I see it. 16 GB and if those prices are correct then it's mine.

What do you all plan to do about Insurance for this phone?

MacRumorUser
Oct 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
I'm sorry.

Thank you. It's take a decent man to apologise.

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Agreed. Those results are very disappointing if true.

In terms of looks I think it looks great in that last picture! And is that the LED notifier in the middle under the home button? That's also a micro SIM if I'm not mistaken?

Yeah really like the notification light too, and it is sexy. I wish the iPhone 5 had one.

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 06:20 PM
LG Nexus price rumors say:

399$ for 8 GB
449$ for 16 GB

I would definitely go for the 16 GB.


http://androidandme.com/2012/10/smartphones-2/lg-nexus-to-debut-at-399/

Maybe they'll pull the same game plan as they did with the NExus 7. Release 8GB and 16GB initially, then move the entire line to provide 16GB at the former 8GB price point, and 32GB at the former 16GB price point, possibly phasing out the 8GB version.

Kind of like the heavily rumored 32GB Nexus 7 that's coming soon to replace the current 16GB Nexus 7, bumping the 16GB down to the 8GB price point.

I think I'll wait a while before I consider upgrading to the LG Nexus just to see if this pans out.

Also, I know it's prototype software and hardware, but the initial "review" just doesn't seem very promising. I really want an awesome camera.

3bs
Oct 12, 2012, 07:33 PM
Maybe they'll pull the same game plan as they did with the NExus 7. Release 8GB and 16GB initially, then move the entire line to provide 16GB at the former 8GB price point, and 32GB at the former 16GB price point, possibly phasing out the 8GB version.

Kind of like the heavily rumored 32GB Nexus 7 that's coming soon to replace the current 16GB Nexus 7, bumping the 16GB down to the 8GB price point.

I think I'll wait a while before I consider upgrading to the LG Nexus just to see if this pans out.

Also, I know it's prototype software and hardware, but the initial "review" just doesn't seem very promising. I really want an awesome camera.

I'm not too concerned about the camera and the other specs looks good and so does the design. I'll likely want to get it as soon as it's out so if they do go by that plan then I'd be really pissed off. I want 32GB but who knows how long until they release it (if that's their plan).

TheBigKing
Oct 12, 2012, 07:46 PM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=be&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.onliner.by%2F2012%2F10%2F12%2Flg-nexus-4-review%2F

Seems positive review other than the surprisingly poor benchmark results.

3880 on Quadrant ? 6500 anTUTU ? :o:o:o

Will wait for these to be confirmed, but they are a little disappointing. :o

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the benchmark results are useless if the phone runs with any lags there no problem on the benchmark results

onthecouchagain
Oct 12, 2012, 10:03 PM
I'm kind of put off that the LG Nexus isn't thinner than the GN. I was really hoping for it to be as thin as the GS3. I love how the GS3 just disappears in my pocket. You hardly feel it's there. Plus the thinness helps with reaching the full range of the screen.

Also not so thrilled by the chrome band around the device. Kind of takes away from the aesthetics a lil bit.

Actually, the more I look at it, the uglier it gets. The flash and camera just look... bizarre. I can't put my finger on why. And the patterned back is a love/hate thing. In some pics, I love it, in others, I hate it.

I know, prototype and all, but ya.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 16, 2012, 03:25 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/15/3506326/lg-optimus-g-review-att-sprint


A highlight: "Which leads me to the elephant in the room: those rumors that the next Nexus device will be based on this phone. Every gadget needs to be judged on its own merits, but I'm imagining a world where Google helps LG refine the hardware and the software is stock Android and it seems lovely."

A review of the LG Optimus G. Swap out the software portion of the review and it is pretty much the LG Nexus review already.

Things are looking good.

I did however read some review where they broke the glass back of this thing already...

gladesmellzgood
Oct 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
In terms of build quality I would have to go with the HTC One X but when it comes to software and promptly updates you cannot beat a Nexus device. Not to mention while the tweaks that these launchers add to android are useful; nothing beats the stock android experience to me. So my vote is for the LG Nexus!