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MacRumors
Oct 23, 2012, 03:03 PM
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Apple has been slow to support the myriad of LTE networks used by cell carriers around the globe. The company only supported Verizon and AT&T in the U.S., and several Canadian carriers when the LTE iPad launched earlier this year, leading to complaints (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/28/official-complaints-over-4g-marketing-of-new-ipad-taking-hold-in-europe/) over Apple's marketing of the device in a number of countries.

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Today, during the announcement (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/23/apple-announces-fourth-generation-ipad-with-lightning-connector/) of the fourth-generation iPad, Apple briefly displayed the above slide showcasing a number of domestic and international carriers that should eventually support LTE data on the new iPad and the iPad mini, and potentially the iPhone 5 as well.

Currently, the iPhone 5 supports LTE networks (http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/) on 17 carriers in 9 countries. For U.S. consumers, the new iPad and the mini will now support Sprint's LTE network (http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/). Additionally, Apple has posted a new page (http://www.apple.com/ipad/LTE/) showing the 19 carriers in 9 countries that the iPad mini and 4th-gen iPad will support at launch.

Article Link: Apple Devices to Support Many New International LTE Networks In Coming Months (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/23/apple-devices-to-support-many-new-international-lte-networks-in-coming-months/)



wordoflife
Oct 23, 2012, 04:08 PM
Nice to see some uniformity coming.

Geckotek
Oct 23, 2012, 05:10 PM
So it looks like buying the Verizon model gets you the most bang for your buck re: international coverage. Or in my case, I would want one to work in South Korea so I'd need to get the Verizon model.

Sound about right?

Nermal
Oct 23, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sound about right?

Yup.

chriscrk
Oct 23, 2012, 06:54 PM
If I buy an iPhone 5 and LTE isn't available yet where I live (or it's a different type), will that mean it'll never be compatible?
Or should I just wait and see if they ever release a compatible version of the iPhone?

retroneo
Oct 23, 2012, 10:33 PM
If I buy an iPhone 5 and LTE isn't available yet where I live (or it's a different type), will that mean it'll never be compatible?
Or should I just wait and see if they ever release a compatible version of the iPhone?

In Chile, the networks are rolling out 2.6GHz LTE now for launching mid 2013. In 2017, networks will roll out 700MHz using the APAC Band 28.

Neither is supported in 2012 Apple devices.

There is also almost no likelihood that a Chilean carrier would re-use "refarm" some of their existing 2G or 3G (850MHz or 1900MHz) spectrum. These frequencies are supported by today's Apple devices.

I would expect 2600MHz support in 2013 Apple devices. 2600MHz has been auctioned off in many countries and some networks are already deployed using it.

JAT
Oct 23, 2012, 11:23 PM
Hey, when will they support "wifi" in iOS6?

robanga
Oct 23, 2012, 11:26 PM
The chipsets that support all these bands are almost as impressive as the fine tuning of the antenna design that must go into every product.

everything-i
Oct 24, 2012, 06:09 AM
If I buy an iPhone 5 and LTE isn't available yet where I live (or it's a different type), will that mean it'll never be compatible?
Or should I just wait and see if they ever release a compatible version of the iPhone?

To be fair, LTE is bit of a mess and its going to be a few years before devices are available to cover all the frequency ranges and flavours of LTE that will ultimately appear. If you can, I would hold off on the 5 and go for the 5s which is more likely to have models supporting your required frequency ranges.

Guacamole
Oct 24, 2012, 06:46 AM
so, if we have the Ipad 3... not even with an IOS update will ever get LTE support?

BornAgainMac
Oct 24, 2012, 11:48 AM
In the U.S. will they stop hardcoding the LTE version to separate carriers like they did the last time.

chriscrk
Oct 24, 2012, 12:35 PM
In Chile, the networks are rolling out 2.6GHz LTE now for launching mid 2013. In 2017, networks will roll out 700MHz using the APAC Band 28.

Neither is supported in 2012 Apple devices.

There is also almost no likelihood that a Chilean carrier would re-use "refarm" some of their existing 2G or 3G (850MHz or 1900MHz) spectrum. These frequencies are supported by today's Apple devices.

I would expect 2600MHz support in 2013 Apple devices. 2600MHz has been auctioned off in many countries and some networks are already deployed using it.

Oh right, thanks!

How did you know where I'm from, btw? I don't think I have it listed on my profile...

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To be fair, LTE is bit of a mess and its going to be a few years before devices are available to cover all the frequency ranges and flavours of LTE that will ultimately appear. If you can, I would hold off on the 5 and go for the 5s which is more likely to have models supporting your required frequency ranges.

Yeah... idk, I'm just really eager to get one. I've been saving up for a while, been wanting one for years, so I don't think I can control myself and wait much longer :P LTE isn't the most important thing for me anyway though!

Geckotek
Oct 24, 2012, 12:36 PM
How did you know where I'm from, btw? I don't think I have it listed on my profile...

Creepy stalker!!!

Mikey7c8
Oct 24, 2012, 02:18 PM
To be fair, LTE is bit of a mess and its going to be a few years before devices are available to cover all the frequency ranges and flavours of LTE that will ultimately appear. If you can, I would hold off on the 5 and go for the 5s which is more likely to have models supporting your required frequency ranges.

Even so, you should only expect LTE support if the phone or device supports the LTE bands in use by your carrier today.

Anything else is just educated guessing. :)

Nermal
Oct 24, 2012, 02:31 PM
How did you know where I'm from, btw? I don't think I have it listed on my profile...

You have previously posted it though :)

chriscrk
Oct 24, 2012, 06:09 PM
You have previously posted it though :)

Oh right, I had forgotten about that lmao.
Not a big deal, I was just curious :P

longpath
Oct 30, 2012, 07:52 AM
So it looks like buying the Verizon model gets you the most bang for your buck re: international coverage. Or in my case, I would want one to work in South Korea so I'd need to get the Verizon model.

Sound about right?

Yup.

Based on the experiences of friends who have tried international roaming with Verizon (wasn't pretty) I'm holding off until Apple unifies the LTE capability into a single model. I've done international roaming with both T-Mobile and AT&T with zero issue, and the last thing I need is having to trade off customer service (not exactly Verizon's forte from what I see in reviews) to get the overseas coverage.

Geckotek
Oct 30, 2012, 09:02 AM
Based on the experiences of friends who have tried international roaming with Verizon (wasn't pretty) I'm holding off until Apple unifies the LTE capability into a single model. I've done international roaming with both T-Mobile and AT&T with zero issue, and the last thing I need is having to trade off customer service (not exactly Verizon's forte from what I see in reviews) to get the overseas coverage.

The entire point is to use a local SIM and not roam.

longpath
Dec 14, 2012, 07:52 PM
Based on the experiences of friends who have tried international roaming with Verizon (wasn't pretty) I'm holding off until Apple unifies the LTE capability into a single model. I've done international roaming with both T-Mobile and AT&T with zero issue, and the last thing I need is having to trade off customer service (not exactly Verizon's forte from what I see in reviews) to get the overseas coverage.

The entire point is to use a local SIM and not roam.

That presumes unlocked, and that wasn't available in the US until recently. That being said, the friends I referred to were using dual mode devices, in which the GSM component failed to work properly. My international use experience were with locked dumb phones, so swapping SIM wasn't an option; but it still worked seamlessly. Besides, I hate having to have to reload SIM accounts.