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THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 10:42 AM
I feel like this is a classic battle between software and hardware.

The 5in HTC 1080P phone has all the hardware goodies you could possibly need for at least the next two years. But will sense and Verizon hinder the software??

The LG nexus is no slouch on the hardware by any means but lacks to huge 1080P screen that will be all the rage soon and HTC has a better camera.. But it will have all the latest and greatest software from google with no delays.

What say you all? Which is more future proof?

Edit: Samsung and LG have already announced that they are making 1080P screens for next year.



onthecouchagain
Oct 24, 2012, 10:49 AM
Software trumps hardware, as long as hardware is reasonably future-proof (too bad about the storage options of the Nexus 4, though).

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And, frankly, I don't trust HTC and their battery size decisions. Isn't the HTC J's battery awfully small for such a large and high powered device?

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 10:53 AM
Software trumps hardware, as long as hardware is reasonably future-proof (too bad about the storage options of the Nexus 4, though).

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And, frankly, I don't trust HTC and their battery size decisions. Isn't the HTC J's battery awfully small for such a large and high powered device?

The Butterfly is 2100 but the rumored Verizon version is 2500 MAH

MacRumorUser
Oct 24, 2012, 10:53 AM
In 12 months time both will be really outdated sadly, so forget 'future-proof' just go for whichever device is rocking your boat right now.


personally I prefer the HTC's design and if they do bump the battery for varizon, that would sway me. I don't mind Sense, I know a lot do not like it, so Stock Android versus Sense could sway you the other way.

onthecouchagain
Oct 24, 2012, 10:55 AM
The Butterfly is 2100 but the rumored Verizon version is 2500 MAH

Comparatively, the Note II is something like 3300 mAH, no? And that's pushing a less powerful device. For what it's worth, I hear good things about the Note II's batteries. Just saying, even 2500 mAH sounds little, especially if it'll have LTE for Verizon (on top of the screen!).

I don't trust HTC. >.<

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 11:00 AM
In 12 months time both will be really outdated sadly, so forget 'future-proof' just go for whichever device is rocking your boat right now.


personally I prefer the HTC's design and if they do bump the battery for varizon, that would sway me. I don't mind Sense, I know a lot do not like it, so Stock Android versus Sense could sway you the other way.

True, that's why I put future proof in quotes lol.

I do like HTC design better and screen but I like stock over sense.

daveathall
Oct 24, 2012, 11:04 AM
I have never used stock Android, and since reading these boards I am tempted to try the next Nexus.

I know I could root, but this is me, I could only guarantee breaking the thing if I tried.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 11:32 AM
Comparatively, the Note II is something like 3300 mAH, no? And that's pushing a less powerful device. For what it's worth, I hear good things about the Note II's batteries. Just saying, even 2500 mAH sounds little, especially if it'll have LTE for Verizon (on top of the screen!).

I don't trust HTC. >.<

Yeah it has a 330 mAH and that's great. If it wasn't so huge I would consider the Note 2. I share your fear of the battery problems.

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I have never used stock Android, and since reading these boards I am tempted to try the next Nexus.

I know I could root, but this is me, I could only guarantee breaking the thing if I tried.

Lol I honestly don't feel like rooting anymore.

onthecouchagain
Oct 24, 2012, 11:49 AM
Yeah it has a 330 mAH and that's great. If it wasn't so huge I would consider the Note 2. I share your fear of the battery problems.



The Note II is surprisingly "small" looking. It looks easier to handle than the Note I, yet still has the larger screen:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/10/dsc02510-1350970336.jpg

Won't be able to tell how it compares to the HTC J in size, though.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 12:09 PM
The Note II is surprisingly "small" looking. It looks easier to handle than the Note I, yet still has the larger screen:

Image (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/10/dsc02510-1350970336.jpg)

Won't be able to tell how it compares to the HTC J in size, though.

Agreed. It's thinner and longer than the original note. Kind of like the iPhone 5. Looking at reviews I still think it would be too big for me personally.

cynics
Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM
From using an assortment of cellphones I've come to this conclusion.

1. If/when I buy Android it will only ever be Nexus devices no exceptions.

2. If/when I buy Android it will NOT be on Verizon no exceptions.

Reasoning. Dev support is extremely strong with Nexus devices. There are very few issues with incompatible apps. Pure Android /nuff said there. Supported from Google for longer then other devices.

Verizon, they have great coverage and voice is excellent. That's where it ends. They are outrageously frustrating when it comes to OTA updates. The current nexus just got JB not to long ago, the wifi Xoom has had JB since June while Verizon Xoom owners still wait. It's absurd! Furthermore their 3G is hideously slow, once upon a time I got 2 mbs as my all time high however it usually hovers around .2 - .8 mbs. While their LTE coverage is great, god forbid you fall off it and are sent to 3G. Their network is too difficult to make voice and data at the same time work. You need to be on LTE and even then the iPhone 5 can't do it due to lack of hardware (which is redundant anyway so I don't blame apple). There is only one or two phones on Verizon that can do voice and data with LTE and 3G by using SVDO which is more redundant hardware to make their network work.

I've gotten burned more then enough times to learn my lesson. I'm currently on a 4S with a slow network connection unable to get voice and data. I feel like the iPhone was designed for AT&T. Another thing and this could be in my head but when I see these fantastic battery life screenshots of 8+ hours it seems its always AT&T.

Ok back to topic, obviously my opinion is the polar opposite of going with the HTC so much that I wouldn't upgrade until my criteria is met which the LG is. I know this is a legitimate question but its a no brainer for me. :)

/rant

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 01:43 PM
From using an assortment of cellphones I've come to this conclusion.

1. If/when I buy Android it will only ever be Nexus devices no exceptions.

2. If/when I buy Android it will NOT be on Verizon no exceptions.

Reasoning. Dev support is extremely strong with Nexus devices. There are very few issues with incompatible apps. Pure Android /nuff said there. Supported from Google for longer then other devices.

Verizon, they have great coverage and voice is excellent. That's where it ends. They are outrageously frustrating when it comes to OTA updates. The current nexus just got JB not to long ago, the wifi Xoom has had JB since June while Verizon Xoom owners still wait. It's absurd! Furthermore their 3G is hideously slow, once upon a time I got 2 mbs as my all time high however it usually hovers around .2 - .8 mbs. While their LTE coverage is great, god forbid you fall off it and are sent to 3G. Their network is too difficult to make voice and data at the same time work. You need to be on LTE and even then the iPhone 5 can't do it due to lack of hardware (which is redundant anyway so I don't blame apple). There is only one or two phones on Verizon that can do voice and data with LTE and 3G by using SVDO which is more redundant hardware to make their network work.

I've gotten burned more then enough times to learn my lesson. I'm currently on a 4S with a slow network connection unable to get voice and data. I feel like the iPhone was designed for AT&T. Another thing and this could be in my head but when I see these fantastic battery life screenshots of 8+ hours it seems its always AT&T.

Ok back to topic, obviously my opinion is the polar opposite of going with the HTC so much that I wouldn't upgrade until my criteria is met which the LG is. I know this is a legitimate question but its a no brainer for me. :)

/rant

Lol I don't mind the rant. You make good points. I am tempted by the 1080P and the bigger screen. I'm glad you gave your perspective it definitely puts the Nexus as more future proof.

blackhand1001
Oct 24, 2012, 03:21 PM
Lol I don't mind the rant. You make good points. I am tempted by the 1080P and the bigger screen. I'm glad you gave your perspective it definitely puts the Nexus as more future proof.

To be honest the 1080p screen on the htc is a waste. At over 300 ppi the lg nexus already has pixels that are pretty much impossible to make out even when putting your eye very close to the screen. The 1080p screen wouldn't really add anything to the experience but would definitely waste resources and make the ui lag more often and drain battery.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 03:48 PM
To be honest the 1080p screen on the htc is a waste. At over 300 ppi the lg nexus already has pixels that are pretty much impossible to make out even when putting your eye very close to the screen. The 1080p screen wouldn't really add anything to the experience but would definitely waste resources and make the ui lag more often and drain battery.

Yeah, from what I have read you are correct.

onthecouchagain
Oct 24, 2012, 04:30 PM
2. If/when I buy Android it will NOT be on Verizon no exceptions.



Oh gawd: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/24/samsung-posts-verizon-galaxy-note-2-gallery-home-button-branding-definitely-included/


Gross.

PDFierro
Oct 24, 2012, 04:45 PM
Wow, that's hilarious.

Six8
Oct 24, 2012, 05:07 PM
Ridiculous.

lazard
Oct 24, 2012, 05:15 PM
shame on Verizon

sarcosis
Oct 24, 2012, 05:31 PM
Wow that is ... that's about all i can say. Shame on Verizon. I wish Samsung would restructure their contracts to get rid of the mandatory bloat BS branding. I get that we pay a "Subsidy" here in the US, but come on man. We pay that back during our contractual period. They should pay me for advertizing their stuff lol :rolleyes:

Back on topic, future proof is always Nexus for Android. You will be getting timely software updates for a good while. Also, Pure Android is quite awesome. I've got something new Pure with a custom ASOP rom on my GNote and can't be happier. Now the only question mark here would be product support hard wise from LG. I've had other stuff from LG and love it, but never had a phone.

Lara F
Oct 24, 2012, 05:40 PM
Ugh. Surprised Samsung still didn't have enough power (or didn't care enough) to prevent this.

Shame that the carrier that took Android to prominence is without doubt the worse one to have an Android phone on.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 24, 2012, 06:50 PM
I saw this earlier. It's so terrible and ugly. Lol

F123D
Oct 25, 2012, 01:54 AM
Wow.. that logo placement looks horrible. They already have a huge logo on the back of the phone.. and a ship date of November 27th? Wow..

I'm glad AT&T went the simple route and decided to only place the logo on the back of the phone without the words "AT&T".

http://img.gadgetian.com/ATT-Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II-Back.jpg

FFR
Oct 25, 2012, 04:26 AM
In 12 months time both will be really outdated sadly

Your being extremely generous.
3-4 months before being obsolete.
Expect key lime pie and MAYBE MAYBE Lollipop or licorice, depending on the manufacturer.

Mackan
Oct 25, 2012, 06:03 AM
Nexus 7 and LG Nexus 4 looks like solid devices to own if you like Android. Wait a few days to see what Google says on the 29th.

I wouldn't touch any HTC/Samsung/etc device anymore.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 25, 2012, 07:13 AM
Wow.. that logo placement looks horrible. They already have a huge logo on the back of the phone.. and a ship date of November 27th? Wow..

I'm glad AT&T went the simple route and decided to only place the logo on the back of the phone without the words "AT&T".

http://img.gadgetian.com/ATT-Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II-Back.jpg

That actually looks really nice.

MacRumorUser
Oct 25, 2012, 07:23 AM
8GB confirmed in the Nexus 4

Nothing futureproof about that sadly :(

cynics
Oct 25, 2012, 09:23 AM
Oh gawd: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/10/24/samsung-posts-verizon-galaxy-note-2-gallery-home-button-branding-definitely-included/


Gross.

Of all the places to put their logo! Verizon must be run by people that A don't care about their customers or B don't know or care about phones or C both.

If apple has anything going for them it's the ability to not be pushed around by carriers. Take it or leave it. I guess carriers do get away with their name on screen by the signal strength which my Xoom does not have.

onthecouchagain
Oct 25, 2012, 09:29 AM
8GB confirmed in the Nexus 4

Nothing futureproof about that sadly :(


I expect a 16GB version for the Play Store.

And I'm hoping Google at the conference will, at least, mention the 32GB is coming down the line. An ETA would be even better.

MacRumorUser
Oct 25, 2012, 01:47 PM
I expect a 16GB version for the Play Store.

And I'm hoping Google at the conference will, at least, mention the 32GB is coming down the line. An ETA would be even better.

Definitely hope so too. A flagship device with lower memory than the one its replaces is just bizarre.

Does it have a microSD card slot ? I'm wondering if google are perhaps having such low onboard to save money, knowing customers can add more at their own cost if they wish to do so? Otherwise I'm still baffled by the choice of 8GB as a starter.

3bs
Oct 25, 2012, 01:52 PM
I expect a 16GB version for the Play Store.

And I'm hoping Google at the conference will, at least, mention the 32GB is coming down the line. An ETA would be even better.

I'm starting to think 8GB might be the only version announced on Monday. Very disappointing.

Definitely hope so too. A flagship device with lower memory than the one its replaces is just bizarre.

Does it have a microSD card slot ? I'm wondering if google are perhaps having such low onboard to save money, knowing customers can add more at their own cost if they wish to do so? Otherwise I'm still baffled by the choice of 8GB as a starter.

From the renders there wasn't any sign of a slot for the SD card, just one for the SIM card.

Edit: looking back at the picture we can only see the left side of the phone. Maybe there's an SD card slot on the right? :p

Mackan
Oct 25, 2012, 06:55 PM
I'm starting to think 8GB might be the only version announced on Monday. Very disappointing.



From the renders there wasn't any sign of a slot for the SD card, just one for the SIM card.

Edit: looking back at the picture we can only see the left side of the phone. Maybe there's an SD card slot on the right? :p

Google has stated they don't want sd-card on nexus products. But 8 GB? Just way too little. Seems like they don't want to sell any of these...

cynics
Oct 25, 2012, 07:20 PM
Google has stated they don't want sd-card on nexus products. But 8 GB? Just way too little. Seems like they don't want to sell any of these...

Nexus 1 had external storage. And the Xoom (albeit not labeled Nexus) has external storage.