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NunnOtha
Oct 25, 2012, 08:42 AM
I'm in awe. I love my iPhone and I have had everyone of them since the 3g. But I did happen to attend the Samsung world tour even in NYC last night, and I must say that technology is moving right along without Apple it seems. The Note 2 had some never before seen killer features that had me drueling. The worst part about it is how I wished it were an apple product but I'd never see the day where they put so much into 1 phone at one time. It's crazy but I sat there and tried to rationalize how the iPhone was better as if it were my job, but in the end I faced reality. It ran just as smooth as my iPhone 5, the voice assistant worked well, and the camera was clear as day. Android is closing in on iOS bigtime. Small screens with boring icon layout won't cut it for long, I bet money that Apple changes its ways soon.



Wuiffi
Oct 25, 2012, 08:48 AM
Don't stay with Apple just because of the brand. If other companies make better products (in YOUR opinion) then buy their products.

Personally I am moving away from android to an iphone.
One more thing: the Note runs nearly as smooth as the iphone with it's Quadcore 1.6 Ghz Exynos 4 (4 ARM 9 cores)
This thing consumes (together with the display) massive power
According to Anandtech the 3100mAh (2.1 times the sizes of the iphone 5) battery just holds for about 6 hours surfing the web, while the iPhone manages about 8.

So I guess the technology behind Apples A6 is not bad at all!

1080p
Oct 25, 2012, 08:55 AM
While's I cannot speak for the Note, I did try my hand at a Galaxy S3 for 3 weeks before the iPhone 5 release. It is nice and smooth for approximately 1 or 2 days... and then after you load it with apps and actually use the thing... filling up the RAM and such... it SLOOOOWS down! The Touchwiz overlay has a lot to do with it. Once I rooted and loaded up a AOSP ROM it was better.... no Touchwiz... but then you lose a lot of the functionality that Samsung put into the phone.

Everytime I have had an iPhone... it just works and always works well until... I jailbreak and add crap...

I understand Apple's walled garden approach. It keeps the phone running smooth.

zorinlynx
Oct 25, 2012, 08:57 AM
Don't stay with Apple just because of the brand. If other companies make better products (in YOUR opinion) then buy their products.

Personally I am moving away from android to an iphone.
One more thing: the Note runs nearly as smooth as the iphone with it's Quadcore 1.6 Ghz Exynos 4 (4 ARM 9 cores)
This thing consumes (together with the display) massive power
According to Anandtech the 3100mAh (2.1 times the sizes of the iphone 5) battery just holds for about 6 hours surfing the web, while the iPhone manages about 8.

So I guess the technology behind Apples A6 is not bad at all!

This is exactly what is great about Apple.

They don't throw every brand new whizbang feature into a phone without thinking about how it impacts the phone's size and battery life. I bet if the iPhone 4S had gotten LTE, the battery life would have been crap because LTE chipsets weren't that energy efficient yet at the time.

The iPad could afford to get LTE earlier because of its massive battery.

If you must have lots of whizbang features, then Android is for you. If you want a reliable phone that isn't big like a brick and gives you decent battery life, get an iPhone.

There are choices for everyone; that's what's wonderful about competition (and why I wish companies would stop suing each other over ridiculous patents)

NunnOtha
Oct 25, 2012, 09:09 AM
While's I cannot speak for the Note, I did try my hand at a Galaxy S3 for 3 weeks before the iPhone 5 release. It is nice and smooth for approximately 1 or 2 days... and then after you load it with apps and actually use the thing... filling up the RAM and such... it SLOOOOWS down! The Touchwiz overlay has a lot to do with it. Once I rooted and loaded up a AOSP ROM it was better.... no Touchwiz... but then you lose a lot of the functionality that Samsung put into the phone.

Everytime I have had an iPhone... it just works and always works well until... I jailbreak and add crap...

I understand Apple's walled garden approach. It keeps the phone running smooth.

I hear ya and I always enjoy hearin from those with experience with other devices.

Though I must say, whenever I buy new apple phones I can't wait until a jailbreak is released so that I can feel as if I have some control over my device and seperate myself from others. This does slow iOS down a bit and makes it buggy as hell at times but it works.

I've had in-store time with the gs3 and it had its smooth moments and not so smooth, but this galaxy note 2 which is on android latest OS I think and project butter has it running flawlessly with multiple apps open and reviews show the same with excellent battery life.

Werewolf
Oct 25, 2012, 10:01 AM
Galaxy Note II is leaps and bounds ahead of ip5. Its not even a fair comparison. It all comes down to two things: 1). Love for ios and 2). Don't like big massive screens. If you have these two things marked then no need for comparison, just buy an iphone and pretend nothing else is out there.

bigjnyc
Oct 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
I think jailbreaking makes up for a lot of the whizbangery..... You get a lot of cool little tweaks and a level of customization pretty much on par with android but still maintain the iOS ecosystem and Apple reliability. In my opinion thats the perfect compromise and the reason why I've never gotten curious about android..... I did mess around with a Nexus 2 last year and used it for a few days but the disorganized and un-uniformed nature of Android just drove me bananas.... I'm so used to the elegant, seamless nature of iOS.

Aniseedvan
Oct 25, 2012, 10:40 AM
Project butter really has improved the UI experience on android. My colleagues' nexus 7 feels way ahead of my SGS2.
If you only keep a device for a year then android has some great advantages. I still think the OS is better than iOS. That said if you buy into a 2 year deal and then are at the mercy of your manufacturer updating, it can be a little frustrating. Yes you can get round this with rooting but this is why I'm clearly destined for tan iPhone as I don't have the time and iOS just works for me..

NunnOtha
Oct 25, 2012, 11:27 AM
Galaxy Note II is leaps and bounds ahead of ip5. Its not even a fair comparison. It all comes down to two things: 1). Love for ios and 2). Don't like big massive screens. If you have these two things marked then no need for comparison, just buy an iphone and pretend nothing else is out there.

I do love iOS and the ecosystem. And I loved the new real estate of the IPhone 5 UNTIL I found out that my phone with the otter box case fits into the screen of the galaxy note 2!!! Fml. Yes the phone is huge but I'm one that will learn to live with the cons if the pros outnumber them and frankly, who wouldn't want to watch movies or play games or surf the web on a huge screen?

Idk if I'm ready to make the switch just yet given how much I've invested and familiarity with the way things work. But I'd love if apple could hear consumers out and add just a fraction of the features that samsung and android implements in their devices.

JS82712
Oct 25, 2012, 11:30 AM
I'm in awe. I love my iPhone and I have had everyone of them since the 3g. But I did happen to attend the Samsung world tour even in NYC last night, and I must say that technology is moving right along without Apple it seems. The Note 2 had some never before seen killer features that had me drueling. The worst part about it is how I wished it were an apple product but I'd never see the day where they put so much into 1 phone at one time. It's crazy but I sat there and tried to rationalize how the iPhone was better as if it were my job, but in the end I faced reality. It ran just as smooth as my iPhone 5, the voice assistant worked well, and the camera was clear as day. Android is closing in on iOS bigtime. Small screens with boring icon layout won't cut it for long, I bet money that Apple changes its ways soon.

Cool story bro, now move this thread to the 'alternatives' forum

Fanboi4life
Oct 25, 2012, 11:40 AM
This is exactly what is great about Apple.

They don't throw every brand new whizbang feature into a phone without thinking about how it impacts the phone's size and battery life. I bet if the iPhone 4S had gotten LTE, the battery life would have been crap because LTE chipsets weren't that energy efficient yet at the time.

The iPad could afford to get LTE earlier because of its massive battery.

If you must have lots of whizbang features, then Android is for you. If you want a reliable phone that isn't big like a brick and gives you decent battery life, get an iPhone.

There are choices for everyone; that's what's wonderful about competition (and why I wish companies would stop suing each other over ridiculous patents)

EXACTLY. And this is why it's so frustrating having a conversation with a die hard Android fan who's attracted to all the bells, whistles and gimmicky technology. It might take Apple awhile (LTE), but they achieve the same or better success while using half the battery life of most Android devices. That's quality.

kalexn
Oct 25, 2012, 11:42 AM
Galaxy Note II is leaps and bounds ahead of ip5. Its not even a fair comparison. It all comes down to two things: 1). Love for ios and 2). Don't like big massive screens. If you have these two things marked then no need for comparison, just buy an iphone and pretend nothing else is out there.

This is my thing, the screen is way too big in my opinion and I love the simplicity of the iPhone. Any decent android is huge and it doesn't feel like you have a phone but more a tablet and I don't want that.

richard371
Oct 25, 2012, 11:43 AM
I support mobile devices for a large company and Android can be a pain as there are so many models, brands, software versions, Touchwiz vs sense etc. From a support standpoint iOS rules.

Bahroo
Oct 25, 2012, 11:55 AM
Your comparing phablet features to a smartphone... Dual windows on a phone that big makes sense, it doesnt make sense on a iPhone. Android may have more features, but alot of them are gimmicky and broken. The core functionality of Android still does not compare to iOS. Its much quicker to jump aroud and do things on a iPhone then a Android. The ecosystem on iPhones is unmatched, and multi touch on Android still has ways to go.

One of the biggest things about Android was Flash on their browser, but you dont have that anymore on the Google Play store. So if a new comer wanted and was expectin Flash well sorry to break it to you it doesnt have that anymore.

Thats not to say Android isnt a great OS, it most definetly is catching up to iOS, but the unison of hardware and software on iOS is what gives iOS a big lead in my opinion.

NFC? Big deal thats nothing special in my opinion, the multishot camera features and stuff like that is nice though i will admit. Theres some things Android has and somethings iOS doesnt have, and theres something iOS has that Android doesnt have.

In the end i ultimately think the core functionality of the OS's is still much better on iOS. For ex. Copy and paste is so much better on iOS. I had a GS3 and it is not as good, the highlighted text jumps around alot, the pinch to zoom isnt as good as iOS..there is many more too but until Android can fix up its core functinality, iOS imo will have a leg up on it.

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EXACTLY. And this is why it's so frustrating having a conversation with a die hard Android fan who's attracted to all the bells, whistles and gimmicky technology. It might take Apple awhile (LTE), but they achieve the same or better success while using half the battery life of most Android devices. That's quality.

What do you mean Apple implements features MUCH better then Android does. I can get a good solid 6-7 hours on good coverage LTE with the 1440 mAh battery. I would get like 4-5 hours of LTE on my old GS3 even though the battery is much bigger. Thats pure engineering talent and shows how hardware and software that is made for each other is much better then Androids current strategy.

richmds
Oct 25, 2012, 11:55 AM
Do what makes you happy you live in America after all.

I was wowed by Android during the iPhone 4 but moved back for the 4S. I still check out Android now and then but like iOS better. If one day Android looks better then I will ditch iPhone for Android again.

chambone
Oct 25, 2012, 11:56 AM
I'm in awe too. Of Samsung's ability to sucker over ten million people into buying these colossal phones. Their marketing dept is easily as good as Apple's.

Princeton3
Oct 25, 2012, 12:31 PM
I had the original iphone, then upgraded to the 3GS. From there, I went with the Samsung Infuse which I kept for almost a year and a half. Meanwhile, my wife stayed with Apple from original to 3G all the way to 4S. While she hates the computer syncing with iphones, she never thought about leaving for android.

I was happy with the Samsung for the most part. Can you say features, features, features galore!!!? However, I decided to look at Apple again with the iPhone 5. I ended up switching back to Apple and all I can say is I don't think I'll ever switch again. I'll be the first to admit, Androids kill iPhones in terms of feature sets but they are nowhere near as seamless, intuitive and easy to use like iPhones. The iPhone may not do as much as the SG3 but what it does do, it is miles ahead of Samsung.

scaredpoet
Oct 25, 2012, 01:19 PM
Galaxy Note II is leaps and bounds ahead of ip5. Its not even a fair comparison. It all comes down to two things: 1). Love for ios and 2). Don't like big massive screens. If you have these two things marked then no need for comparison, just buy an iphone and pretend nothing else is out there.

Not even close to being accurate.

It comes down to these things:

1. Features that work. Apple does screw up sometimes, but by and large, a feature is released or enabled only after it works well. Samsung and others, on the other hand, will gladly throw a ton of half-baked, buggy features to the wall and see what sticks.

2. Better apps. We see it over and over again. X app won't work on Y Android devices because of screen or other feature issues. And when it does work the experience is diminished. iOS apps are easier to design interfaces for (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/easier-design-apps-ios/), and that's what makes them by and large, better.

3. Better service. My iPhone is giving me trouble? I walk into an Apple store and get it fixed. Got a problem with a Samsung Galaxy SIII? You'll have to deal with your carrier's repair subcontractors. Good luck with that.

So going by your standard: if you like buggy features, unstable software, an overall worse user interface among apps, and an inconsistent warranty service experience, go Android, right?

Marco123
Oct 25, 2012, 01:27 PM
Not even close to being accurate.

It comes down to these things:

1. Features that work. Apple does screw up sometimes, but by and large, a feature is released or enabled only after it works well. Samsung and others, on the other hand, will gladly throw a ton of half-baked, buggy features to the wall and see what sticks.

2. Better apps. We see it over and over again. X app won't work on Y Android devices because of screen or other feature issues. And when it does work the experience is diminished. iOS apps are easier to design interfaces for (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/easier-design-apps-ios/), and that's what makes them by and large, better.

3. Better service. My iPhone is giving me trouble? I walk into an Apple store and get it fixed. Got a problem with a Samsung Galaxy SIII? You'll have to deal with your carrier's repair subcontractors. Good luck with that.

So going by your standard: if you like buggy features, unstable software, an overall worse user interface among apps, and an inconsistent warranty service experience, go Android, right?
Number 3 for me.
The day apple stop offering the excellent service that they do is the day I jump. It's why I buy their products.

ahfu25
Oct 25, 2012, 01:49 PM
I'm in awe too. Of Samsung's ability to sucker over ten million people into buying these colossal phones. Their marketing dept is easily as good as Apple's.

lol @ "sucker people into buying" What do you think apple is doing with the iPad Mini? Next year its going to be iPad Mini with "RETINA DISPLAY" and another couple million suckers will buy into that...Business as usual. My question to Apple would be (yet already knowing the REAL answer) why didn't you implement the "RETINA DISPLAY" to the previous iPad Mini...They would probably pull a George W. Bush and say its not about money making..lol

cynics
Oct 25, 2012, 01:53 PM
Not even close to being accurate.

It comes down to these things:

1. Features that work. Apple does screw up sometimes, but by and large, a feature is released or enabled only after it works well. Samsung and others, on the other hand, will gladly throw a ton of half-baked, buggy features to the wall and see what sticks.

2. Better apps. We see it over and over again. X app won't work on Y Android devices because of screen or other feature issues. And when it does work the experience is diminished. iOS apps are easier to design interfaces for (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/easier-design-apps-ios/), and that's what makes them by and large, better.

3. Better service. My iPhone is giving me trouble? I walk into an Apple store and get it fixed. Got a problem with a Samsung Galaxy SIII? You'll have to deal with your carrier's repair subcontractors. Good luck with that.

So going by your standard: if you like buggy features, unstable software, an overall worse user interface among apps, and an inconsistent warranty service experience, go Android, right?

Actually this is inaccurate too.

What it comes down to:

1. A device that suits your needs the best.

iPhone may work the best for you and I but certainly not for everyone.

ahfu25
Oct 25, 2012, 01:55 PM
Imo the only thing that sets Apple and Samsung apart as far as phones go are the app developers. I dont know much about developing but it doesnt take a genius to realize how apps run better in iOS than on Android. Ive had both for years and thats the ONE BIG difference between the two.

Tig Bitties
Oct 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
I think the Note II is a fantastic device, but it is not going after iPhone5 buyers, it's for a select crowd.

The Note II with it's large screen and stylus make for a good business device, to take on job sites and meetings, the stylus makes it a nice work phone. And the specs are top notch, making it a very fast with butter smooth performance, and pretty good battery life, for such a large and beautiful screen.

But the iPhone5 should not be compared to the Note II, two different sports. The Note II is a hybrid device, a mix of Smartphone + Tablet + Laptop, all rolled into a portable device. But it is not just a smartphone.

maccompatible
Oct 25, 2012, 01:59 PM
Does anyone else think it's silly where Verizon put their logo on the Note 2?

http://content.atomz.com/pb00003783/publish/htdocs/images/galaxy-note-2-marquee-device.png

ahfu25
Oct 25, 2012, 02:01 PM
Does anyone else think it's silly where Verizon put their logo on the Note 2?

Image (http://content.atomz.com/pb00003783/publish/htdocs/images/galaxy-note-2-marquee-device.png)

They ruined it..lol

sc4rf4c3
Oct 25, 2012, 02:03 PM
I think the Note II is a fantastic device, but it is not going after iPhone5 buyers, it's for a select crowd.

The Note II with it's large screen and stylus make for a good business device, to take on job sites and meetings, the stylus makes it a nice work phone. And the specs are top notch, making it a very fast with butter smooth performance, and pretty good battery life, for such a large and beautiful screen.

But the iPhone5 should not be compared to the Note II, two different sports. The Note II is a hybrid device, a mix of Smartphone + Tablet + Laptop, all rolled into a portable device. But it is not just a smartphone.

Agreed

scott99
Oct 25, 2012, 02:20 PM
Project butter really has improved the UI experience on android. My colleagues' nexus 7 feels way ahead of my SGS2.
If you only keep a device for a year then android has some great advantages. I still think the OS is better than iOS. That said if you buy into a 2 year deal and then are at the mercy of your manufacturer updating, it can be a little frustrating. Yes you can get round this with rooting but this is why I'm clearly destined for tan iPhone as I don't have the time and iOS just works for me..

The Nexus 7 is an AMAZING piece of machinery for $200-$250. What an incredible tablet. I can't say enough good things about it, and I didn't even root mine. I was watching Apple's announcement about the iPad mini, and was so underwhelmed by it's specs compared to the Nexus 7, I knew I made the right choice. No offense to Apple fanboys, considering I am one. I love Apple products, have had iPhones since 2007, and am planning to get a new iPhone 5 in a few days, I loved Steve Jobs, hung on his every word when he talked at Apple Events, still miss him. I've read the Steve Jobs book in record time, love the Apple Store. BUT, Google sure got it right with the Nexus 7, jelly bean, and project butter. This thing is amazing !

tymaster50
Oct 25, 2012, 02:26 PM
I love my iPhones, I do but they need to step up the feature game, compared to other OS it is looking very stale. They pretty much rely on 3rd party apps to keep users interested. Siri is just a feature that most users totally forget about or don't use at all(maybe a few times a month)

F123D
Oct 25, 2012, 02:28 PM
Also agree. The Note II doesn't seem like a device aimed at kids or the average adult. Seems like more of a professional/business phone. With the upcoming release of other large tablet like phones, a lot of them are being compared mainly with the Note II and not the iPhone.

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I love my iPhones, I do but they need to step up the feature game, compared to other OS it is looking very stale. They pretty much rely on 3rd party apps to keep users interested. Siri is just a feature that most users totally forget about or don't use at all(maybe a few times a month)

I know people love iOS for its simplicity and ease of use but I also find it becoming very stale. I'm planning on purchasing the Note II this time around and hope apple makes some changes when iOS7 comes around.

ChrisTX
Oct 25, 2012, 03:15 PM
While I do believe the note 2 is a beast, I definitely see where it's a niche product though. I want to try it out first before I cast judgement.

nickchallis92
Oct 25, 2012, 03:51 PM
I've got a galaxy s3 as my daily driver but even i'm in awe of the note 2. it just looks incredible and the pen works so so well. flawlessly integrated

NunnOtha
Oct 25, 2012, 04:22 PM
So this is a question for everyone, and I would like for everyone to be as honest as possible. If apple were to make a iPhone with a 4.7" screen, how would you all react to it? If apple were to add widgets and personalization features galore, how would u react? How do u think the world would take it?

I personally think every thing would be accepted with open arms and joy joy joy! People would began to say they love the large screen and extra gimmicky features, but would say they work better than android for some made-up reason. I'm not sayin this to be negative, as I am an Apple fan just as much as anyone else here, but lets be honest...

Aniseedvan
Oct 25, 2012, 04:35 PM
I am probably in the minority because i'm a woman with small hands but the bigger screens leave me cold. A friend has the note v1 and its just too big for her to carry as a phone.
It seems now if samsung are setting the trend, that smaller phones will not feature the fastest processors, which is a shame for little handed me!

I would love widgets to come to ios, it was a relief when notifications finally turned up. Woukd love third party keyboards too but lets start with widgets....

The Face
Oct 25, 2012, 04:55 PM
1st time poster here, long time browser.

I've been using my Note 2 for around 2 weeks now and absolutely love it. I came from the iPhone 4S to the S3 to the Note 2 and don't regret it at all.

For a start it's an absolute powerhouse, the 1.6Ghz Exynos 4 processor combined with 2GB of RAM makes for the smoothest experience I've ever experienced on a mobile device with 0% lag at all times The screen is also brilliant and bright. Whilst some think it's too big, I think it's just right.

Some of the new features are also brilliant, S-pen is still a bit gimmicky but is alot more responsive and useful that it's predecessor.

The new multi-tasking feature is where it really shines though, being able to have 2 apps running side by side at the same time on screen whilst being able to have the pop-up browser open on screen at the same time to is extremely useful, defiantly a feature I use daily.

Now I'm no fanboy, I love both Android/Samsung & Apple/iPhone. Personally I think the iPhone 5 is a beautiful piece of kit, an excellent phone packed with good features and brilliant hardware. I'd love to get my hands on one just to have a go.

Anyway, just thought I'd share my opinion and thoughts on the Galaxy Note 2.

From an iPhone & Galaxy enthusiast. ;)

Lance-AR
Oct 25, 2012, 05:00 PM
I've never jail broken because I don't see a need for widgets (maybe I just don't understand them) and I need to be able to use it with one hand. 4.7" doesn't interest me.

tbayrgs
Oct 25, 2012, 06:53 PM
So this is a question for everyone, and I would like for everyone to be as honest as possible. If apple were to make a iPhone with a 4.7" screen, how would you all react to it? If apple were to add widgets and personalization features galore, how would u react? How do u think the world would take it?

I personally think every thing would be accepted with open arms and joy joy joy! People would began to say they love the large screen and extra gimmicky features, but would say they work better than android for some made-up reason. I'm not sayin this to be negative, as I am an Apple fan just as much as anyone else here, but lets be honest...

In regards to the larger screen, unless is was edge to edge with basically no bezel, then no, I wouldn't want a 4.7" screen. I had a Galaxy Nexus (4.65") for a while and found one-handed use a bit cumbersome at times, especially when trying to reach across with my thumb. Based on the current iPhone design, I'd think about 4.3" would be my sweet spot.

I'd have no problem with the ability to add widgets or greater personalization, even though I wouldn't use much of the former. For anyone that hasn't used Android though, that's not the design customization element that's the most attractive but rather the fact that you have greater flexibility with the functionality. Having the ability to manipulate the UI to meet nearly whatever need you may have is the real benefit. I won't drone on as it's been stated ad naseum on an infinite number of threads/articles/blogs but if that element of Android could be added to the fit and finish of iOS, you would certainly have the perfect OS.

NunnOtha
Oct 25, 2012, 07:03 PM
I agree that would make the perfect OS.

New scenario: apple made all iPhone screens 4.7"...what phone would u buy n why

Rennir
Oct 25, 2012, 07:26 PM
Not even close to being accurate.

It comes down to these things:

1. Features that work. Apple does screw up sometimes, but by and large, a feature is released or enabled only after it works well. Samsung and others, on the other hand, will gladly throw a ton of half-baked, buggy features to the wall and see what sticks.

2. Better apps. We see it over and over again. X app won't work on Y Android devices because of screen or other feature issues. And when it does work the experience is diminished. iOS apps are easier to design interfaces for (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/04/easier-design-apps-ios/), and that's what makes them by and large, better.

3. Better service. My iPhone is giving me trouble? I walk into an Apple store and get it fixed. Got a problem with a Samsung Galaxy SIII? You'll have to deal with your carrier's repair subcontractors. Good luck with that.

So going by your standard: if you like buggy features, unstable software, an overall worse user interface among apps, and an inconsistent warranty service experience, go Android, right?

1. Totally. I love how smooth and bug free Siri and Maps are—THE selling points of the last 2 iPhones.

2. True enough. It's a take and give between an open platform and more compatibility platforms. If your underlying assumption is that open platforms bring no benefits, then there's no point in discussing further because we would fundamentally disagree.

3. Agreed. Something that other companies should work on.

Vegastouch
Oct 25, 2012, 11:24 PM
While's I cannot speak for the Note, I did try my hand at a Galaxy S3 for 3 weeks before the iPhone 5 release. It is nice and smooth for approximately 1 or 2 days... and then after you load it with apps and actually use the thing... filling up the RAM and such... it SLOOOOWS down! The Touchwiz overlay has a lot to do with it. Once I rooted and loaded up a AOSP ROM it was better.... no Touchwiz... but then you lose a lot of the functionality that Samsung put into the phone.

Everytime I have had an iPhone... it just works and always works well until... I jailbreak and add crap...

I understand Apple's walled garden approach. It keeps the phone running smooth.

Huh? Ive had my GS3 for 3.5 months and it hasnt slowed down and im not rooted.

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So this is a question for everyone, and I would like for everyone to be as honest as possible. If apple were to make a iPhone with a 4.7" screen, how would you all react to it? If apple were to add widgets and personalization features galore, how would u react? How do u think the world would take it?

I personally think every thing would be accepted with open arms and joy joy joy! People would began to say they love the large screen and extra gimmicky features, but would say they work better than android for some made-up reason. I'm not sayin this to be negative, as I am an Apple fan just as much as anyone else here, but lets be honest...

Well no kidding
Thats how it works in here. Nothing is really needed that isnt there til Apple incorporates it in the iPhone. Then it is genius on their part :rolleyes:

Sensamic
Oct 25, 2012, 11:28 PM
Yes.

Android phones can do so much more, and it will only keep getting better.

The problem is more doesn't always mean better. Many times manufacturers like Samsung include hundreds of new features on their phones, but while doing so they forgot to make the phone more stable, fluid and optimized.

Ios has many more less features, but it works better. Probably because of that: less features = less hassle and less chance of malfunction.

matttye
Oct 26, 2012, 01:29 AM
Galaxy Note II is leaps and bounds ahead of ip5. Its not even a fair comparison. It all comes down to two things: 1). Love for ios and 2). Don't like big massive screens. If you have these two things marked then no need for comparison, just buy an iphone and pretend nothing else is out there.

Apples ecosystem, user friendliness and the iPhones integration with other Apple devices make it better for me.

I had an S3, which has a lot more features than the ip5 on paper, but the overall experience is not as good.

hot spare
Oct 26, 2012, 05:27 AM
Some people posted battery life comments about GN2. How many people actually used GN2 to comment on it's battery life "problems". People are just assuming that it has got half the battery life of a iPhone5. Really?

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-battery-life-test-is-complete-here-are-the-results/

http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5-battery-test-is-done-proves-itself-as-a-thin-powerhouse/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916790

The Face
Oct 26, 2012, 05:43 AM
There's nothing wrong with the Note 2's battery life, I get at least a full days use out of mine. Sure like any phone if you hammered tha data or watched videos on it all day it'd last a bit shorter, but generally the battery is excellent.

Fanboi4life
Oct 26, 2012, 06:05 AM
What do you mean Apple implements features MUCH better then Android does. I can get a good solid 6-7 hours on good coverage LTE with the 1440 mAh battery. I would get like 4-5 hours of LTE on my old GS3 even though the battery is much bigger. Thats pure engineering talent and shows how hardware and software that is made for each other is much better then Androids current strategy.

Sir, me and you are on the same page, I'm not bashing Apple. Reread my post.

Technarchy
Oct 26, 2012, 10:06 AM
I love my iPhones, I do but they need to step up the feature game, compared to other OS it is looking very stale. They pretty much rely on 3rd party apps to keep users interested. Siri is just a feature that most users totally forget about or don't use at all(maybe a few times a month)

Apps are everything. They are essential to the success and capabilities of devices. One of the problems with the Note2 is no one is writing applications for Touchwiz, so that ecosystem will never grow.

And I use Siri just about everyday.

NunnOtha
Oct 26, 2012, 10:14 AM
Apps are everything. They are essential to the success and capabilities of devices. One of the problems with the Note2 is no one is writing applications for Touchwiz, so that ecosystem will never grow.

And I use Siri just about everyday.

Yea that's true about the apps. But who knows, if samsung keeps releasing phones that are high selling and get great reviews, market share will begin to change as consumers demand increase and this should lead developers to making more apps for use with touchwiz...or in a perfect world, they get rid of touchwiz all together because I can certainly do without

tymaster50
Oct 26, 2012, 01:27 PM
Apps are everything. They are essential to the success and capabilities of devices. One of the problems with the Note2 is no one is writing applications for Touchwiz, so that ecosystem will never grow.

And I use Siri just about everyday.

Apps are a large portion of the fun but Apple should have something to make the next iPhone stand out from the rest, by a large margin, a taller screen, new connector, and 4G isn't enough for some people to warrant paying $200-900

Tarzanman
Oct 26, 2012, 03:56 PM
Android is closing in on iOS bigtime. Small screens with boring icon layout won't cut it for long, I bet money that Apple changes its ways soon.

Dude, Android surpassed iOS over a year ago. I'll give you kudos for being able to free your mind from the Fanb-- Distortion Field, but lets be real.

If you are strictly comparing features and capabilities then the iPhone 5 is roughly on par with the Galaxy Nexus.... which came out last November.

It really bothers a lot of people to admit this because they are not comfortable with having an emotional attachment to a less capable device.

Whatever. People should use what they like.... but they should be willing to accept reality as well.