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whoknows87
Oct 25, 2012, 09:05 PM
I have played around with a few Android devices, not for long I must admit, one thing that I think is a plus is the Display , I have not seen a Phone yet that has a better display than the iPhone Retina Display, the app store is well iOS App store.... but I do feel like iOS is missing out on some built in features , might be a time to try something new, I currently have an i5 what phones do you guys recommend? but my main concern is sell me on some features that Android has, what will I be missing out on?



aziatiklover
Oct 25, 2012, 09:17 PM
Custom rom, micro usb port, hdmi port, root unroot simple click, size can vary from 1.8"-40", you can get android for cheap, the os is almost everywhere in china you name it in the bathroom, cars, boats, scooters, usb sticks etc....

LIVEFRMNYC
Oct 25, 2012, 09:35 PM
Access to file system,
full Bluetooth capabilities,
able to set default browser and apps,
change keyboard,
change launcher,
toggles on notification screen,
more lock screen options,
Widgets,
And anything else I missed.


Some other features depend on the specific device. Like NFC, DLNA, notification light, and etc.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 25, 2012, 09:56 PM
I have been an iPhone user since 2007. (I am starting to repeat myself on these threads)

When I tried andoid in the past it was slow, buggy, laggy and the apps were not as good and iOS. All that is gone now. So that right there makes the platforms equal.

Where andoid excels is in customization. I stole this from another macrumors member so credit is given where credit is due. A common misconception is that android customization is about only looks. I used to think that too. But it goes way deeper than that. It is about customizing your user experience on the device. For example. I use chrome on the computer and my phone. In iOS I can't set chrome as the default browser and let links open straight to chrome. Why?? Because apple wants you to only use their browser (which is a very very good browser). But why can't I choose? It's my phone, isn't it?

Say I want a pattern lock screen, no lock screen, gestures, no icons on my home screen, home screen full of icons (iOS), widgets (haven't found them THAT useful yet but shouldn't I have the choice?) you can make android very complicated or super simple. It's your own choice.

These are obvious examples but I think you can get the idea of where I'm going.

Apple thinks thinks they know what's best for you and in a lot of cases they are right because they make amazing products.

But now that android has caught up in apps, smoothness and stability, I want the choice to tailor my user experience to what makes me happy and most productive and gives me the most enjoyment.

/EndSuperLongRant

whoknows87
Oct 25, 2012, 10:08 PM
Access to file system,
full Bluetooth capabilities,
able to set default browser and apps,
change keyboard,
change launcher,
toggles on notification screen,
more lock screen options,
Widgets,
And anything else I missed.


Some other features depend on the specific device. Like NFC, DLNA, notification light, and etc.

I have no idea what launcher is
Why would I need access to file system?
I'm a basic user , the most I'll do to my phone is Jailbreak it ( it gets fun when it's jailbroken without a jailbreak a stock i5 is eeeh can get boring after a while)

Sharing is starting to get to me, I know on Android devices it's easier to share thing like videos+pics, for example on iOS its limited to messages, mail and that's it..
another thing that bothers me big time, why cant I block a call , create a blacklist etc I believe it's a built in feature on some androids

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I have been an iPhone user since 2007. (I am starting to repeat myself on these threads)

When I tried andoid in the past it was slow, buggy, laggy and the apps were not as good and iOS. All that is gone now. So that right there makes the platforms equal.

Where andoid excels is in customization. I stole this from another macrumors member so credit is given where credit is due. A common misconception is that android customization is about only looks. I used to think that too. But it goes way deeper than that. It is about customizing your user experience on the device. For example. I use chrome on the computer and my phone. In iOS I can't set chrome as the default browser and let links open straight to chrome. Why?? Because apple wants you to only use their browser (which is a very very good browser). But why can't I choose? It's my phone, isn't it?

Say I want a pattern lock screen, no lock screen, gestures, no icons on my home screen, home screen full of icons (iOS), widgets (haven't found them THAT useful yet but shouldn't I have the choice?) you can make android very complicated or super simple. It's your own choice.

These are obvious examples but I think you can get the idea of where I'm going.

Apple thinks thinks they know what's best for you and in a lot of cases they are right because they make amazing products.

But now that android has caught up in apps, smoothness and stability, I want the choice to tailor my user experience to what makes me happy and most productive and gives me the most enjoyment.

/EndSuperLongRant

thanks good stuff you mentioned

cynics
Oct 25, 2012, 10:13 PM
I find native USB hosting useful with a tablet (able to plug in any game controllers, keyboard, mouse, cameras, iPhone, etc etc) and they are functional.

PDFierro
Oct 25, 2012, 10:40 PM
For me, I'm getting an Android instead of iOS because I need transit directions. And Google Maps is awesome. Also, being able to put setting toggles on the home screen is awesome.

In general, Android is more open. And I think it's the better OS for a phone. Though I do like iOS as well.

kicko
Oct 26, 2012, 08:17 AM
I like setting my apps as defaults. (browser, email, etc)

I like using a different launcher (launcher apps gives you control, look, and behavior of the home screens)

I like having choice of weather app that displays in my notification pull down

I like widgets, my favorite one currently takes the default google calendar icon and allows the date to change similar to the iOS calendar.

overall the ability to do or change things i dislike of the default settings and mod or customize them to fit my needs. You do things your way not "their" way.

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 08:59 AM
Also, being able to put setting toggles on the home screen is awesome.




Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

matttye
Oct 26, 2012, 09:37 AM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

I have a silent/loud switch on the side of my phone, so it's available on every screen.

I never have to disable WiFi because the hit on battery life is so small it doesn't make any difference to me.

Security toggle is pretty cool.

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 10:05 AM
I'm using the most basics of toggle. With many apps, you can actually select specific apps you want to toggle. It's a very useful tool.

For example, the lightning looking toggle on my screen cap is the flashlight. Instant-on from the camera's flash. Great for in the dark. And the one on the left is brightness slider.

There's so much one can do.

Dave.UK
Oct 26, 2012, 10:18 AM
Here's just a couple of things that I can do with Android but cant with ios. Please note that this is how I have my phone set up and its the way I like it. What appeals to me might not appeal to others.

Screen 1

http://www.airportcitygame.com/other/1.jpg

This is my main home screen. I love having the time/date and weather automatically update. If I click on the time it takes me straight through to my alarm setting screen. Click on the weather and it gives me a 7 day forecast.

Ive then got my countdown app telling me how long till my next race. Gives me motivation everytime I unlock the screen.

Ive then got 4 apps that I use pretty often - Camera, Gallery, Flashlight and the Play store. Underneath I have links to Contacts, Email, App Draw, SMS and Internet.

Im also using a beautiful live wall paper - Which despite what people may say, dosent drain the battery!

Screen 2

http://www.airportcitygame.com/other/2.jpg

Calendar/Appointments app at the top
Juice defender toggle and prop points widget
Runtastic widget

If I click on any of the widgets, it takes me through to the app. However its nice to see the info I want on the screen without having to load the app.

Screen 3

http://www.airportcitygame.com/other/3.jpg

Shiftworker widget so I can see what shifts ive got coming up. Quick click on the widget brings up the entire month.

Video player and below that my music player.

I personally could never move over to a phone that dosent have widgets. Having all the information I want on different screens, so it only takes a swipe to see it. Of course some people dont need or want widgets, but its not until you use them that you realise how useful they really are.

Then theres the notification bar!

http://www.airportcitygame.com/other/4.jpg

You can slide the notification bar across and it shows more settings, but its nice and easy to get to.

Faux Carnival
Oct 26, 2012, 10:19 AM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

You should use a higher-quality image as your wallpaper.

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 10:31 AM
You should use a higher-quality image as your wallpaper.

Ha, yeah, blown up it looks pretty bad. But on the small screen, the slight blur makes it look spacier. ;)

If there was a higher resolution version of that background, would be nice too.

VulchR
Oct 26, 2012, 11:12 AM
@OP: iOS has Apple customer service which is not perfect but excellent. And for iOS you are the customer, whereas in Android marketers and advertisers are the customer and information about you is the product. I think Android has come along very nicely as a mobile OS (although I still don't like the GUI), but Google's ulterior motive for offering Android is inescapable no matter how many widgets and toggles Android has.

Dave.UK
Oct 26, 2012, 11:19 AM
@OP: iOS has Apple customer service which is not perfect but excellent. And for iOS you are the customer, whereas in Android marketers and advertisers are the customer and information about you is the product. I think Android has come along very nicely as a mobile OS (although I still don't like the GUI), but Google's ulterior motive for offering Android is inescapable no matter how many widgets and toggles Android has.

What do you believe makes apple customer service so good?

As for the rest, your entitled to your opinion, but it becomes boring when people keep saying with Android your not a customer, without backing this up with any proof or evidence.

Ulterior motives? lol
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kIQ4EZCQKJM/T0EAGcHxGzI/AAAAAAAAAF4/BU3rAfwIm80/s1600/minime.gif

ChazUK
Oct 26, 2012, 11:28 AM
For me, unparalleled Google integration.

Using Google services I can move between Android, iOS, Windows Phone and all my data comes with me, it just happens that Android has the best integration so it is my primary platform.

Google Now sticks in my mind most recently. It prevented me from being late to a doctors appointment around a week ago, alerting me to leave 10 mins earlier than I'd scheduled due to traffic. I arrived to my appointment in time and would have definitely been late had I not left when Google Now had advised. Powerful stuff.

VulchR
Oct 26, 2012, 11:29 AM
What do you believe makes apple customer service so good?

Personal experience, like the genius who took pity on me and helped create a memorial slideshow for my father's funeral using iMovie.

As for the rest, your entitled to your opinion, but it becomes boring when people keep saying with Android your not a customer, without backing this up with any proof or evidence.


Google do not charge for Android. They do not make money from providing Android to you or to the phone manufacturers. They do make money by providing information about you to advertisers and marketers. It's a different model than Apple's, and probably most people do not mind that. However, I do.

Feel free not to believe me, but you might want to investigate this link (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/how-much-money-does-google-make-from-mobile/15539). ;)

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 11:31 AM
Google do not charge for Android. They do not make money from providing Android to you or to the phone manufacturers. They do make money by providing information about you to advertisers and marketers. It's a different model than Apple's, and probably most people do not mind that. However, I do.

Feel free not to believe me, but you might want to investigate this link (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/how-much-money-does-google-make-from-mobile/15539).

Just curious, you don't use any Google services? Even just Googling stuff? I'm genuinely curious.

Dave.UK
Oct 26, 2012, 11:35 AM
Personal experience, like the genius who took pity on me and helped create a memorial slideshow for my father's funeral using iMovie.



Google do not charge for Android. They do not make money from providing Android to you or to the phone manufacturers. They do make money by providing information about you to advertisers and marketers. It's a different model than Apple's, and probably most people do not mind that. However, I do.

Feel free not to believe me, but you might want to investigate this link (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/how-much-money-does-google-make-from-mobile/15539). ;)


Thats of course if you live near an apple store. Theres not that many around and my closest would be a 200 mile round trip.

Regarding the rest, im more then happy with that. Google are upfront and ask for various permissions as to what they can do with their data.

ChazUK
Oct 26, 2012, 11:36 AM
Google do not charge for Android. They do not make money from providing Android to you or to the phone manufacturers.

They do make something off of licencing Google Play (formerly Android Market) which is why the nipped it in the bud when Cyanogenmod ROMs were being distributed with the Android Market and Google Apps included in the ROM.

http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/09/note-on-google-apps-for-android.html

With a high-quality open platform in hand, we then returned to our goal of making our services available on users' phones. That's why we developed Android apps for many of our services like YouTube, Gmail, Google Voice, and so on. These apps are Google's way of benefiting from Android in the same way that any other developer can, but the apps are not part of the Android platform itself. We make some of these apps available to users of any Android-powered device via Android Market, and others are pre-installed on some phones through business deals. Either way, these apps aren't open source, and that's why they aren't included in the Android source code repository. Unauthorized distribution of this software harms us just like it would any other business, even if it's done with the best of intentions.

Android isn't the free-for-all that some people think it is to handset manufacturers. ;):p

VulchR
Oct 26, 2012, 11:40 AM
Just curious, you don't use any Google services? Even just Googling stuff? I'm genuinely curious.

The only Google service I use is its search engine, and then rarely. If Google offered a service that didn't collect information about me, I would be very interested in Android and the rest of Google's ecosystem. Like I said, I know most people are fine with Google and Android, but the marketing thing sits uneasy with me. I know Apple has tried to collect information about users as well, but at least iOS is not predicated on that. Apple has a direct relationship with its iOS users - they are Apple's customers. I also think that counts for something.

[Awaits tinfoil hat comments :p]

spblat
Oct 26, 2012, 11:43 AM
I like how Android's wallpaper shifts as you flip between pages.

I really like how you can put widgets on the home screen like weather or toggles. If the pull-down iOS notification screen had optional toggles for things like bluetooth or wifi or screen brightness, that would go a long way.

I think I would like to have an animated wallpaper.

These aren't features that tempt me away from iOS given my perception of the other advantages of sticking with Apple.

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 11:50 AM
The only Google service I use is its search engine, and then rarely. If Google offered a service that didn't collect information about me, I would be very interested in Android and the rest of Google's ecosystem. Like I said, I know most people are fine with Google and Android, but the marketing thing sits uneasy with me. I know Apple has tried to collect information about users as well, but at least iOS is not predicated on that. Apple has a direct relationship with its iOS users - they are Apple's customers. I also think that counts for something.

[Awaits tinfoil hat comments :p]


What is so bad about Google collecting data? My [likely limited] understanding is that they do it to have more focused ads aimed at you. Is that all? That bothers you? Isn't it your choice not to buy or click on the ads? I mean, you'll likely see ads anyway?

Not being disingenuous. I'm curious about this because I'm wondering myself.

robanga
Oct 26, 2012, 11:51 AM
I'm using both daily an iPhone 5 and an HTC One X running ICS. I am looking forward to a 4.1 phone, having just played with the "butter" experience in a few stores.

The great things about Android are many but first is the integration with Google services. The home screen/widgets thing is pretty nice as well although i can't really say its better organized, just different. The only widget i really rely on is weather and perhaps email, but then on iOS you active active icons for mail.

Having said all that, i can not see a compelling reason to leave iOS personally and only go Android. iOS seems to have a better overall fit and finish imo, and when you are within apps or even switching it seems a bit more elegant.

To be sure Android is nice though.

jojoba
Oct 26, 2012, 12:32 PM
The main reason why I stick with android phones rather than iPhone is the keyboard. I think the iOS keyboard is really crap and there are no good third party options available. On Android I use Swift Key which makes my typing so much more efficient.

The second issue for my has not been about android in particular but about screen size. I've found the iPhone to be a bit small and I don't really like the new stretched version, either.

paulsalter
Oct 26, 2012, 12:45 PM
One thing for me is access to a file system just like a desktop machine has

I know that however I store my eBooks, Word Files, Music Files etc, whatever app I chose to open them with will just see them like my desktop

I recently wanted a new eBook reader on my tablet as the one I was using wasn't very good
looked on the play store, downloaded it, ran it and my books where there

spblat
Oct 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
One thing for me is access to a file system just like a desktop machine has

I know that however I store my eBooks, Word Files, Music Files etc, whatever app I chose to open them with will just see them like my desktop

I recently wanted a new eBook reader on my tablet as the one I was using wasn't very good
looked on the play store, downloaded it, ran it and my books where there

That comes at a price. Apple segregates all the files and hides the file system, but one benefit is that you get better control over what apps access which parts of your data. And in an ecosystem where not all apps are trustworthy that can be a good thing.

TG1
Oct 26, 2012, 12:56 PM
Favorite things on Android are: custom launchers, weather widgets, SwiftKey X, custom SMS (Hand center, GoSMS), quick toggles for WiFi, GPS, etc., quick reply pop-ups, and of course Google maps.

paulsalter
Oct 26, 2012, 12:58 PM
That comes at a price. Apple segregates all the files and hides the file system, but one benefit is that you get better control over what apps access which parts of your data. And in an ecosystem where not all apps are trustworthy that can be a good thing.

I agree locking things up can be a lot safer

for me personally I prefer the file system way, the same as I have done for 20+ years and never had an issue

dba415
Oct 26, 2012, 12:58 PM
Replaceable battery, sd storage

whoknows87
Oct 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

that looks pretty sweet,I would want my home screen to look like that, what phone do you own if you don't mind me asking

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 02:19 PM
that looks pretty sweet,I would want my home screen to look like that, what phone do you own if you don't mind me asking


Galaxy Nexus.

THE JUICEMAN
Oct 26, 2012, 02:29 PM
For me, unparalleled Google integration.

Using Google services I can move between Android, iOS, Windows Phone and all my data comes with me, it just happens that Android has the best integration so it is my primary platform.

Google Now sticks in my mind most recently. It prevented me from being late to a doctors appointment around a week ago, alerting me to leave 10 mins earlier than I'd scheduled due to traffic. I arrived to my appointment in time and would have definitely been late had I not left when Google Now had advised. Powerful stuff.

Wow, that's awesome.

The Face
Oct 26, 2012, 02:55 PM
The multi-task window feature is my favourite, being able to run 2 apps side by side is stupidly useful.

PDFierro
Oct 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

Nice. Which app are you using for those toggles? I don't know if I'll use widgets much, but toggles are a big selling point for me. Android in general is just so much more open for use on a phone.

Stuntman06
Oct 26, 2012, 03:16 PM
I have no idea what launcher is
Why would I need access to file system?

You have the choice of how you manage your files. For instance, let's say you have notes, Word Documents, PDF's, pictures, sound file, etc. all related to say the same project. You can choose to put them all in the same folder. Then when you want to send your project, just select the folder and send everything.

another thing that bothers me big time, why cant I block a call , create a blacklist etc I believe it's a built in feature on some androids

That is nice for spam callers. I have used it a number of times for this purpose.

Here are some other features I like on my Android:

One thing that I do is when I go to bed, I like to turn off notification sounds (from email and text messages, for example) while leaving my ringer and alarm on. With Android, I can do this with a single tap on my home screen. I have a widget for this. When I wake up, I tap the widget again to turn on my notification sounds.

Android also has multiple phones and form factors available. I personally prefer landscape keyboard sliders. Although they are getting rarer now, my last phone was one.

By default my phone has an app dock at the bottom of my home screen. When I page between home screens, the dock remains in place. I don't like that. Instead, I installed a new launcher that allows me to remove this dock of icons. I have an extra row of icons as I prefer it over the dock. My home screen actually has 6 rows of icons by 4 columns. I have the option of increasing it up to 7 x 7 if I choose.

I also installed a different on screen keyboard. I don't like the default one. I installed one where the portrait keyboard keys are bigger, so it makes it easier for me to type. My landscape keyboard is also customised. I have a layout where it resembles the iPad split keyboard. I have a 4.8" phone and find that hitting keys in the middle of the keyboard is cumbersome. My landscape layout is split so the keys are closer to the edges and makes it easier for me to type. The keyboard I use (Thumb Keyboard) also has a number of features I like, namely turning off auto-spacing (that other keyboards I tried cannot do).

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 03:18 PM
Nice. Which app are you using for those toggles? I don't know if I'll use widgets much, but toggles are a big selling point for me. Android in general is just so much more open for use on a phone.

Power Toggle. And the weather app is Beautiful Widget (tons of weather skins to choose from. Too many, really).


And y'all know what's another beautiful thing about Android? Direct dialing icons. You can create a direct dial (or direct text) icon of your most frequent contacts and it's just a little icon with whatever picture you put on that contact on your home screen.

I have a page dedicated to 8 or so of my most frequented called/texted friends. Swipe to that screen, pick, and boom.

Once again, usability... higher on an Android despite iOS being "simpler."

robanga
Oct 26, 2012, 06:17 PM
I agree locking things up can be a lot safer

for me personally I prefer the file system way, the same as I have done for 20+ years and never had an issue

I can see that. Go with what is comfortable for you. That is why we have choice .

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And y'all know what's another beautiful thing about Android? Direct dialing icons. You can create a direct dial (or direct text) icon of your most frequent contacts and it's just a little icon with whatever picture you put on that contact on your home screen.

I have a page dedicated to 8 or so of my most frequented called/texted friends. Swipe to that screen, pick, and boom.



I'm going to give direct dial icons a try ...thanks

matttye
Oct 26, 2012, 06:27 PM
I'm using the most basics of toggle. With many apps, you can actually select specific apps you want to toggle. It's a very useful tool.

For example, the lightning looking toggle on my screen cap is the flashlight. Instant-on from the camera's flash. Great for in the dark. And the one on the left is brightness slider.

There's so much one can do.

Yep some toggles are useful for sure - just not the standard settings toggles (at least on iOS) as battery life is great anyway. Used to have a flashlight toggle my S2, really useful.

stroked
Oct 26, 2012, 07:29 PM
Just when I decided to get an iPhone, I found this thread. Now once again, I don't know what I want.

whoknows87
Oct 26, 2012, 08:14 PM
Just when I decided to get an iPhone, I found this thread. Now once again, I don't know what I want.

LOL funny thing is if anyone who knows me reads this , I will never ever hear the end of it, I've been defending iPhones since forever, I really do love the Phone , but I do feel left out on some features, Yes iOS runs smooth,but the Phone is your Phone you should have some control over a few things, I like widgets, themes, the fact that installed apps are can be integrated with the running OS, for example sharing via whatspp, Facebook , If i want to share a picture on iOS I have to do it from the App itself ( if it's even allowed) with a few androids you can simply do that from the picture itself it gives you the option to share via multiple apps, one thing that I feel some Android Phones lack ( some manufacturers ) is the Retina Display on the iPhone, the icons it's just fantastic , looks smooth, and of course the Camera I take lots of pictures with my iPhone and I do feel the camera is just perfect, funny thing is those features I mentioned can be available to iOS but only if its' jailbroken which I've found makes your phone runs a bit slower in comparison to stock.... I have the iPhone 5 now and sometimes I wonder the 4S could've done just fine... I had the 4 before and held out when the 4S came out so the 5 is somewhat of an upgrade but still..........

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Galaxy Nexus.

funny thing that is a Phone i actually liked, it looks smooth, I'm really considering it , not sure if I should wait for the new nexus or just go with the older one, I'm sure the new one would be $$

cynics
Oct 26, 2012, 08:47 PM
Just when I decided to get an iPhone, I found this thread. Now once again, I don't know what I want.

I use both. The iPhone has a lot going for it too. There is no right or wrong answer to which you prefer and why....

Even though I use a love Android tablets I prefer an iphone as my daily phone. But I don't tinker with my phone as I use it for business....

Mr. Incredible
Oct 26, 2012, 10:52 PM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.What phone and Toggles are you using?

onthecouchagain
Oct 26, 2012, 11:00 PM
The main reason why I stick with android phones rather than iPhone is the keyboard. I think the iOS keyboard is really crap and there are no good third party options available. On Android I use Swift Key which makes my typing so much more efficient.




This 110%. So incredibly accurate.

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What phone and Toggles are you using?

Galaxy Nexus.

Power Toggles: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&hl=en

onthecouchagain
Oct 27, 2012, 01:15 AM
You know what's another great thing about swype over the iOS keyboard? It's that when you edit something that's in mid sentence it still knows to autocorrect and show suggestions. Whereas I noticed on my iPad if I tap the middle of a sentence to edit something it no longer auto corrects.

Anyone else notice this too?

Btw, I wrote this post with my iPad and good lord there were so many missed letters. The iOS keyboard is abysmal. Had to edit so much.

cynics
Oct 27, 2012, 07:19 AM
You know what's another great thing about swype over the iOS keyboard? It's that when you edit something that's in mid sentence it still knows to autocorrect and show suggestions. Whereas I noticed on my iPad if I tap the middle of a sentence to edit something it no longer auto corrects.

Anyone else notice this too?

Btw, I wrote this post with my iPad and good lord there were so many missed letters. The iOS keyboard is abysmal. Had to edit so much.

I think my favorite thing about the stock keyboard is that you can tap twice to remember a word. And even better is you can goto the user dictionary and edit/remove a single autocorrection.

I hate how with iOS it will learn to remember errors. Currently mine is remembering ill when it used to autocorrect to I'll. I'll have to delete the user dictionary every couple months.

torana355
Oct 27, 2012, 07:51 AM
Screen toggles truly is a beautiful thing. This is just left of my home screen:

Image (http://i.imgur.com/n4HW3.png)


I love being able to toggle my lock screen off when I'm at home and don't want to constantly input my security to unlock it. When I go out, I toggle it back on. Ditto for sound profiles. At work? Toggle it to Vibrate only. When I get home, toggle it back to Loud. Not to mention toggling WiFi, etc. It takes a second, literally, to do these things.

Widgets are, in my opinion, a bit overrated, but toggle widgets are great.

Which toogle widget are you using? I got the Nexus 7 aswell :)

onthecouchagain
Oct 27, 2012, 08:19 AM
Which toogle widget are you using? I got the Nexus 7 aswell :)

Power toggles.

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I think my favorite thing about the stock keyboard is that you can tap twice to remember a word. And even better is you can goto the user dictionary and edit/remove a single autocorrection.

I hate how with iOS it will learn to remember errors. Currently mine is remembering ill when it used to autocorrect to I'll. I'll have to delete the user dictionary every couple months.

Yup. The totally smart and simple auto correction of iOS is actually dumb and obtrusive.

I've always said the iOS keyboard was abysmal. And it hasn't changed much in years.

torana355
Oct 27, 2012, 10:32 AM
Power toggles.

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Yup. The totally smart and simple auto correction of iOS is actually dumb and obtrusive.

I've always said the iOS keyboard was abysmal. And it hasn't changed much in years.

Sorry where do i find the toogle to turn of the lockscreen?

onthecouchagain
Oct 27, 2012, 09:26 PM
I have a silent/loud switch on the side of my phone, so it's available on every screen.


But no Vibrate option in the mix. :D

matttye
Oct 28, 2012, 05:16 AM
But no Vibrate option in the mix. :D

Can't think of a time I would ever have my phone on silent without vibrate, other than a job interview, but I would just turn my phone off for that.

So yeah, definitely not an issue :p

jojoba
Oct 29, 2012, 04:56 AM
Power Toggles: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&hl=en

Thanks for this tip. I downloaded it after reading your post, and it's brilliant!

Typswif2fingers
Oct 29, 2012, 06:36 PM
So far as the OP question stands: my answer is - It has me :)

whoknows87
Oct 29, 2012, 07:28 PM
I know the answer lol its more money in my pocket :D, the price of the Nexus 4 was something I did not expect , I'm definitely making the switch , it's worth the shot for 300-350 for a device that seems to pack a lot minus LTE ( which I really don't care about

tdream
Oct 29, 2012, 07:48 PM
Widget and full filesystem access. Actually I don't even need full filesystem just some is enough. I use ES file explorer with my samba server and I can access all my media on any screen with a hdmi port, projector, plasma or lcd with full DD5.1 or DTS, Full HD video streaming. It sure is sweet.

I have a galaxy note 2, it has real pen input. Not these fat marker type pens designed for capacitive input. Capacitive touchscreens are fundamentally wrong for pen input. The wacom digitizer solves that and you get the best of both worlds.

I know many people will not agree with me, but flash. Yes flash, I love playing flash video because I know many other phones can't. The elitist in me :D I don't need to wait for HTML5 conversion I can play it right off my phone. It's powerful enough to do so without any trouble.

Specifically certains sites charging for mobile app versions of their website, when you can view them in flash for free!

I'm sad that adobe has stopped support for flash on android right at the cusp of when phones can actually start playing the damn format without any hinderance. :(

What else.. em full notifications. System toggles from the notification without jailbreaking.

For widgets I have a 24 hour weather widget so I can see what the next day is like without going into another app. One widget is a button so I can turn on the light without going into an app. Saves time, especially in the dark!

Google voice, is better than siri IMO. Actually knows what I'm saying. :D
Full google services integration.

Peripheral support as others have said, I haven't used it yet.

SD card slot if your device supports it. Expand your storage up to 64GB for $50 instead of $300 as apple would charge you... amazing!

Removable battery, if you felt the need to carry another battery or your current one has given up the ghost, just bring/buy another one.

Screensize, you're not locked into one screensize dictated by the mighty Apple. You have choice, you have variety, you have options.

Quite frankly, I think Android is innovating much faster and better than Apple right now. It used to be the other way around.

viskon
Oct 30, 2012, 10:08 AM
One thing I do like about android is the ability to customize your experience. I can decide whether I like Android, iOS or the Windows UIs , all on the same device.

Here is my Android GNex

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/30/enuvydup.jpg

Here is my "Windows " GNex , running Win 7 launcher from the Play store, with live tiles.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/30/maqamuha.jpg

And finally, here is my "iOS " GNex running Fake iPhone launcher, also available in the Play store.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/30/uvy6y4et.jpg

onthecouchagain
Oct 31, 2012, 04:01 PM
Play Store online > iTunes.

kenypowa
Oct 31, 2012, 04:26 PM
One thing I do like about android is the ability to customize your experience. I can decide whether I like Android, iOS or the Windows UIs , all on the same device.

And finally, here is my "iOS " GNex running Fake iPhone launcher, also available in the Play store.

Image (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/30/uvy6y4et.jpg)

This. I have 3 Android devices and each has a different set up. One of them is the iPhone look. Is this the iLauncher?

viskon
Oct 31, 2012, 04:37 PM
This. I have 3 Android devices and each has a different set up. One of them is the iPhone look. Is this the iLauncher?

The name of the launcher is Fake iPhone 4S launcher.

onthecouchagain
Nov 1, 2012, 07:35 AM
NY Times says Apple got rid of Forestall to move ahead with iOS design overhaul.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/NYT-confirms-Apple-lost-Forstall-to-move-forward-with-an-iOS-design-overhaul_id36185

"You can be sure that the next generation of iOS and OS X will have Jony’s industrial design aesthetic all over them. Clean edges, flat surfaces will likely replace the textures that are all over the place right now.”

Based on this quote, the "overhaul" may only be aesthetics? Ive was known to hate Forestall's skeumorphism. Will the changes be only aesthetics-deep? I hope not.

Oletros
Nov 1, 2012, 07:55 AM
Intents and broadcast receivers

onthecouchagain
Nov 1, 2012, 08:01 AM
List of reasons why Android 4.1 > iOS. I find most of these agreeable. Many of these reasons are why I switched over. http://mostly-tech.com/2012/09/30/3219/


Better Voice Search Results – Like Siri, Google Now assists you with everyday tasks. You can ask it a questions and it speaks the answer — while it displays related graphics. But this app now goes beyond Siri because it learns about you through your searches, and automatically alerts you — without you needing to ask for things. For example, Google Now knows when you need to leave for work and from which gate your flight is departing. It also automatically displays things like sports scores, traffic and weather. It will even alert you if there’s a traffic jam and automatically recommends places around you like restaurants. But its biggest advantage, is the relevance and accuracy of the data it provides. Most experts say it’s better than Siri in this area.


Superior Maps & Navigation Services – Although iOS 6 now has 3D maps and turn-by-turn navigation, everyone including Apple agrees Android is ahead when it comes to maps. Google Maps is included on every Android device and has public transit maps (bus, subway and train, walking maps, street view maps, terrain indication, offline maps and cycling maps. iOS 6 Maps is missing all of the preceding. Many of Google’s 3D maps were taken with 3D cameras. Most of Apple’s 3D maps are synthesized by computer, which is why they often look bad. Google Maps are more accurate and contain more detail than iOS 6 Maps. Google also does a better job locating addresses and has a better 3D interface for driving directions. Google Maps also has better traffic reporting. Of course third-party iOS apps do address some of these deficiencies, but no single app can compete with Google today. Google continues to move aggressively in this area by adding new high-res aerial and satellite imagery along with new 45 degree views and indoor maps. iOS 6 Maps are so bad that Apple’s CEO actually apologized for them and is now recommending users use Bing or Google Maps.


A Digital Wallet Which Can Buy Things Today – Apple’s Passport shows promise, but it’s the only digital wallet I know of, which won’t let you purchase anything. Android supports near field communication (NFC) and Google Wallet which lets you buy things at over 300,000+ PayPass cash registers. After setting up Google Wallet on an NFC equipped phone like a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, you simply touch your phone to the payment terminal and the rest is done for you. Google Wallet is currently accepted at more than twenty retail chains including 7 Eleven, Best Buy, CVS Pharmacy, Duane Reade, Einstein Bros Bagels, Footlocker, Home Depot, Jack in the Box, McDonald’s, Peet’s Coffee, Pinkberry, Rite Aid, Sports Authority, Whole Foods and more. You can learn more about Google Wallet here.
Better Data Sharing Between Apps – It’s easiest to explain system intents by contrasting the sharing options between an iOS app and an Android app. When I share on my iOS Notes app I’m given four different sharing choices: Mail, Message, Print and Copy. When I share on my Android Notes app, I’m offered the ability to share via Bluetooth, Google Drive, Dropbox, Email, Facebook, Gmail, Google+, Read It Later, SkyDrive, Text Message, Twitter, Wi-Fi Direct, WordPress Blog and 17 other apps. The actual list of varies depending on which apps you have installed. Google realizes they cannot be best at everything, and allows their customers to choose which apps they want to interact with. All Android apps support this feature.


Touch-to-Share Anything – Android Beam allows any two NFC-equipped devices to send data by simply by tapping them together. This allows Android users to share web pages, maps, You Tube videos, contacts and links to apps. Starting with Android 4.1, Android Beam makes it possible to share photos and video by using Bluetooth for the data transfer. Samsung’s S Beam combines NFC with Wi-Fi Direct. This makes it possible to transfer almost anything — including documents, music playlists, photos and larger videos between two Samsung devices. Here is a video of S Beam in action.


More Advanced Multitasking – Apple places restrictions on third-party apps which run in the background. In most cases, they are suspended and not allowed to communicate with other apps when running in the background. Android has no restrictions like this and supports true-multitasking. This makes it possible to do things which cannot be done on the iOS platform.
Samsung’s “Pop up Play” feature, allows videos to hover, so you can text and watch a video at the same time. It’s also possible to have two apps visible at one time on devices like the Samsung Galaxy Tab. This is a good example of what’s possible with true multitasking.


Smart Widgets – Widgets can be placed anywhere and provide you with weather updates, stock quotes, recent e-mails, or your calendar. Widgets are always visible and updated in real-time without needing to launch an app. Widgets also provide easy access to system and application settings. Want to disable Wi-Fi or GPS services? Use a widget. With Android 4.1, widgets are now “smart” and automatically resize themselves based on the amount of room available on the screen. You can get widget-like iOS apps, but they can only run on your lock screen, and some require a jail-broken phone, or third-party software to run.


Open Source – The underlying architecture of the Android is open-source. This makes it much more customizable than iOS. Not only is the Android OS customizable, handset manufacturers like Samsung open source their software for individual phones like the Galaxy S III. This makes it relatively easy for developers to improve on what both Google and Samsung have done to date. A wide range of different custom ROMs can be easily loaded onto rooted phones. These ROMs often have significant benefits over the stock Android OS when it comes to performance, features and battery life. iOS 6 is a closed operating system. Although in theory it can be jail-broken, it’s much harder to do. At the time of this writing, the iPhone 5 had not yet been jail broken. Expert say jailbreaks are going to be harder in the future.


More Advanced Notifications – Although notifications have improved in iOS 6, Android still has advantages in this area. You can tell at a glance what types of notifications have occurred, and clear all with a single click. Android 4.1 also has rich push notifications, which can be expanded and collapsed with a pinch. These notifications offer even more contextual information and are now actionable. That means if you’re notified about a meeting, you can dismiss it right from the notification bar, or email others about the meeting. You can also call or text someone right from the pull-down notification menu.


Ability to Set Default Software – One of the most powerful Android features is the ability to change the default software the OS uses for different tasks. For example, if you want to the Dolphin browser to open any URL (instead of the stock Android browser), just pick the app you want to use. Want to use a different app for turn-by-turn directions or media playback? Pick one, and it will use that app every time. This is an incredibly powerful feature. You can even replace the stock keyboard with a 3rd party keyboard like SwiftKey3. Apple doesn’t allow this.


Easier File Transfers – It’s a major hassle to get anything but photos on or off of an iOS device. With Android devices there’s no need to use iTunes or iCloud to copy media. Just connect a USB cable, and your mobile device will appear on your desktop like a hard disk. You can then drag and drop any type of file or folder to copy (or move) it. This is a really big deal.
Easier Access to App Settings – Android users can either use an in-app Menu button, or onscreen widgets to manage apps settings. iPhone users must use the Settings app every time they want to change app settings, or turn off Bluetooth.


More Open App Store – Although this is a platform benefit, it’s important. Google Play has far less restrictions than the App store. There is a long list of apps Apple won’t allow, including apps which compete with iTunes, free Wi-Fi tethering apps, VoIP apps which use technologies like Google Talk, and great utilizes like Farproc’s Wi-Fi Analyzer. Another Android advantage is the quantity and quality of alternative app stores including: AppBrain, GetJar, Handango, Handmark, and the Amazon App Store, which offers one paid app a day for free. The only apps which can be installed outside the Apple app store are Cydia apps, which are only available for jailbroken devices.
Smart App Updates – Smart app updates is a better way to deliver app updates to devices. Google Play now delivers only the parts of an updated app which have changed to devices, rather than the entire app. This makes the app updates much faster to download, and conserve both battery and data usage.


A More Advanced Keyboard – Android’s in-line spell checker and suggestion modes work better than Apple’s today. The Android 4.1 keyboard now guesses what the next word will be before you’ve started typing it. You don’t even need an Internet connection to see the suggestions. The Android keyboard also lets you add dictionaries, gives you control over auto-correct and has advanced settings.


A Persistent Back Button – Android’s Back button is available at all times. Some iOS apps expose a Back or similar command, but it’s not always visible and available on all screens. This is one of the features I miss the most when jumping back and forth between Android and iOS.
Apps Crash Less – I use iOS 6 and Android 4.1 many hours a day. Apps occasionally crash on both, but I experience more crashes on iOS 6 — especially while using the Safari app with multiple tabs open. Other studies have confirmed that iOS apps crash more than Android apps.


Better Graphics Scaling on Tablets – Android automatically stretches apps so they look good on screens of all sizes. Many iOS apps still have to be blown up to occupy the entire iPad screen. When you do this, the graphics look distorted and funny. Really? I thought this was an issue with Android tablets?


Data & Resource Monitoring – Android makes it easy to see exactly how much data and system resources every app is using (memory, data, battery, etc). It even warns you when you’re getting close to your data cap. This is a really useful feature.


Extensive Customization Options – There are so many ways you can customize Android devices it would be impossible to list them all here. Almost anything can be changed in the Android ecosystem.
Moving Wallpapers – Live wallpapers run on all devices running Android 4.0 and later. They allow you to run cool animations or videos on every home screen, without rooting your phone, or needing to use a third-party app.
Haptic Feedback – The Android OS and most Android devices support haptic feedback. This gives you a little tactile vibration when you type, long press, or touch any of the navigation buttons. This makes it clear your touch was acknowledged, so you don’t have to tap twice. Haptic feedback also makes games much more enjoyable to play.


More Screen Unlock Options – Android now has five different ways to unlock your screen: A slider (which lets you access the home screen or camera), pattern unlock, PIN unlock, password unlock and Face unlock.


Third-party Alternate Keyboards – There are some outstanding third-party keyboard apps that run on all Android phones and have many advantages over the stock iOS 6 keyboard. Some of the best keyboards include Swype, which lets you create words by tracing between the letters on the keyboard. Swype can even sync your personal dictionary across all of your Android devices. SwiftKey 3 goes even further by predicting the next word in your sentence based on past behavior. To save time you can personalize it using your Gmail, Facebook, Twitter or blog posts. This can save you a massive number of keystrokes, as you can see from the screenshot on the right. SwiftKey and other 3rd-party keyboards also have extensive customization options unlike iOS. There are other good keyboards as well. Here’s a good review of some of the best ones.


Full Stylus Support – Although you can use a capacitive stylus on an iOS device, the OS has very limited support for it. You won’t get the same level of expression you get on a Samsung Galaxy Note II, which has 1,024 levels of pressure sensitivity. iOS also won’t let you toggle between a brush, pencil or eraser by simply holding the stylus above the screen and clicking a button. The stylus on Note II even lets you preview emails, photos or videos by hovering slightly above the screen. Here are some more things you can do with a stylus.


Unlimited E-mail Attachments – iOS 6 only allows you to attach images or video to messages. Android allows you to attach Word docs, PowerPoint presentations or any other document to an e-mail. This is especially important for those trying to use their tablet as a laptop replacement.


Flash Support – Flash may be a dying format which is no longer supported by Adobe on Android 4.1, but it’s easy to install and nice to be able to visit Flash-based websites or play any of millions of Flash videos which are still around.


4.2 should add:

-Photo Steer Panaroma
-Separate log-in accounts for tablets
-Gesture swiping in default keyboard
-Quick Settings pulldown menu
-Widgets in lock screen

frayne182
Nov 1, 2012, 08:03 AM
The biggest thing for me is being able to simply plug my Nexus 7 into any machine and grab content I want.

I can be at a buddies house and grab a movie off his laptop with it. And play it without issue. Unlike iOS where you have to have a certain file format in order to watch a movie. Or only sync up from one machine.


I also like being able to customize what I see on screen.

flameproof
Nov 1, 2012, 08:25 AM
I don't want to repeat all good points, just adding a new one:

Dropbox!

In Android I can edit a text file by simply clicking it, add something and save it. In iOS I need to open it in a specific App (iOS can't even recognize *.txt file!), edit it, and then transfer it back to Dropbox - if that app allows Dropbox transfer that is.

One reader ask why he would need access to the file system - I can't i.e. not move movies to another movie app in case one movie doesn't play.

Samsung S-III is less laggy too compare to my iPhone 4 which REALLY has a terrible lag when i.e. the camera is open in the background.

For pads - I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have S-Pen functionality. S-Pen is AMAZING! Finger input is something OK, but reminds me a bit of something kids do in Kindergarten, and that's how I feel often treated by Apple.

onthecouchagain
Nov 2, 2012, 12:30 AM
Another thing that Android has consistently? A dedicated menu button in each app.

On iOS, sometimes the setting is in the Settings app:

http://i.imgur.com/bNZ29.png


Then other times, you go to the Settings app but the app tells you it's in the app itself:

http://i.imgur.com/OR3Tw.png


Ive, please fix.

ercsliberty
Nov 2, 2012, 12:59 AM
android has much more customization options, iphone more reliable phone. i choose iphone, hence PHONE. for everything else , i have the ipad:)

josephd
Nov 25, 2013, 07:25 PM
Up until now, I have been an Android user for almost 3 years.
On Android, there is no such thing as "you just can't " as you have on IOS.
That's the beauty of open source. But with the open source, you need to deal with bugs and stability issues.

Savor
Dec 1, 2013, 02:39 AM
Not necessarily an OS thing, but I like how certain Android phones have a microSD slot up to 64 GB. I regret not picking up the 64 GB (ATT exclusive) of the HTC One. I can only fit 6-7 HD movies with the 25 GB avail. I will try to remedy that with an Android tablet so I can fit far more movies. And prices of 64 GB cards have been falling. By next year, expect $30-$40 prices.

And if cards get to pricey, I like how certain Android phones have OTG. It can play anything from a USB flash drive.