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paulsalter
Oct 30, 2012, 09:01 AM
I am not talking about the tablet optimised/phone optimised apps, just the general selection of apps available.

I keep seeing posts that say that there is poor selection on Google compared to Apple, but are they really that bad

I started using iOS when the first iPod Touch came out, and still use it occasionally on my 4th Gen iPod Touch

Since moving to Android at the end of last year I have found apps for everything I wanted todo

Anyone else think the selection on Goole Play is good or am I in a minority



PDFierro
Oct 30, 2012, 09:08 AM
Maybe. See this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1455672).

Personally, I don't own an Android device yet, but am looking at the Nexus 4.

But after doing tons of searching, Google Play has all of the everyday apps anyone could want. Banking, travel, things such as Netflix and Showtime Anytime, etc.

However, it's the more detailed apps that I find Android is lacking in. iOS literally has so many different kind of apps for everything. So many different apps I can use for writing. I can only find 1 good one on Google Play, apart from Google Docs. But this goes for other kind of apps, too. iOS simply has more, and they are better designed, and people are willing to pay for them.

So I think iOS has the far superior app store. But in terms of your basic apps? Google Play has them all.

MacRumorUser
Oct 30, 2012, 09:13 AM
There is less, but whether that is poorer is subjective.

(but all the main ones are there)

I do however wish however some of the smaller apps and android 'enhancements' (widgets and such) were tested and approved in a more thorough and rigorous way. A lot of independent stuff is either broken (simply doesn't work or do what it says it does) , or can cause havoc (cause memory holes etc..). So yeah they should really clamp down on stuff like that.

There are plenty of example of Apps being better on iOS than there Android counterpart, but there are also examples the other way round.

So swings & round-a-bouts.

Personally I find games in general to be better on iOS with more choice and titles released first and foremost on the Apple platform, but productivity apps and such are much the same.

spinedoc77
Oct 30, 2012, 09:14 AM
No idea on Google, not a big android guy. But the whole iOS ecosystem is overstated anyhow. Way too much redundancy, how many fart apps do you need?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/400000-apps-in-the-App-Store-have-never-been-downloaded-says-report_id32943

Jessica Lares
Oct 30, 2012, 09:14 AM
I like the selection, it's not a lot, but there are some apps that really stand out.

paulsalter
Oct 30, 2012, 09:19 AM
Maybe. See this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1455672).



Thanks, went back a few weeks and must have missed this one

I think I must just use the basic apps, as I have similar experience on both platforms

PDFierro
Oct 30, 2012, 09:23 AM
Can we also talk about the movies/TV show selection? And for that matter, all the other areas of the Google Play store?

I think Google is improving in its selection, but hasn't caught up to iOS yet. Will it ever? Who knows. But they have come a long way in just the past year. I think Google is slowly putting together all the pieces. So it'll be exciting to see Android continue to develop.

paulsalter
Oct 30, 2012, 09:41 AM
Can we also talk about the movies/TV show selection? And for that matter, all the other areas of the Google Play store?



Are you talking about media content or apps?

For apps, I think the experience is very similar, but for content iTunes appears to have the edge, not looked into it to much on Google as they only do rental (well, purchases from yesterday here), which i don't use, but the content does seem lacking

PDFierro
Oct 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
Are you talking about media content or apps?

For apps, I think the experience is very similar, but for content iTunes appears to have the edge, not looked into it to much on Google as they only do rental (well, purchases from yesterday here), which i don't use, but the content does seem lacking

I was talking about both. But I did mention media content, and the Google Play selection is good but nowhere near up there with iTunes. However they are always adding stuff.

PhoenixMac
Oct 30, 2012, 09:46 AM
From my experience my major apps that I use everyday omnifocus and day one they do not have, simple apps like amazon mobile are not available for the nexus 7 and the quality of the apps they do have compared side by side(tablet) do not compare at all.

So I have relegated my Nexus 7 use as a GPS/Spotify radio for my car and picking up a mini as my everyday tablet in conjunction with my iPhone for productivity.

viskon
Oct 30, 2012, 09:51 AM
I have no reason to complain about the app selection. Everything I need is on there. A poster above me mentioned that Amazon Mobile is not available on the Nexus 7. I can find the same app on my GNex, so not sure what's happening there.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/30/5uraza5a.jpg

MikeAK
Oct 30, 2012, 10:01 AM
Gents, The android apps section is nowhere near as bad as people like to say. Most people who still continue to trash Android and their apps are people who don't use them. The days of android not having any good apps is long gone. Like another member has said, there is an app for most everything you can ask for. It now comes down to personal likes and dislikes. People need to quit repeating the android criticism from years past because it's just not the case anymore.

It was bound to happen eventually and I know this is an Apple fan forum but the days of Apple dominating are over. Android is a very stable and viable alternative and a much more affordable price point in the phone and tablet category. People need to accept that and stop with the baseless claims against Android. Like I said, it's now down to what you prefer, likes and dislikes.

mattopotamus
Oct 30, 2012, 10:04 AM
Gents, The android apps section is nowhere near as bad as people like to say. Most people who still continue to trash Android and their apps are people who don't use them. The days of android not having any good apps is long gone. Like another member has said, there is an app for most everything you can ask for. It now comes down to personal likes and dislikes. People need to quit repeating the android criticism from years past because it's just not the case anymore.

It was bound to happen eventually and I know this is an Apple fan forum but the days of Apple dominating are over. Android is a very stable and viable alternative and a much more affordable price point in the phone and tablet category. People need to accept that and stop with the baseless claims against Android. Like I said, it's now down to what you prefer, likes and dislikes.

pretty much this. It was bad 2 years ago, but now it has everything you would need. The only problem I had was finding an app to control my apple tv :(.....makes sense though haha.

ugahairydawgs
Oct 30, 2012, 10:13 AM
To me it's not the selection of apps that the problem. It's the quality of what's there.

paulsalter
Oct 30, 2012, 10:16 AM
simple apps like amazon mobile are not available for the nexus 7

Unsure why this one is not available for the Nexus 7

Via the Amazon app store it is

VFC
Oct 30, 2012, 10:23 AM
Google Play just announced that they now have as many apps as Apple (700,000).

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/google-play-store-matches-apples-as-it-hits-700000-apps-1108577

ixodes
Oct 30, 2012, 10:25 AM
For those who place a high value on frivolous fart apps, and that type of App Android will disappoint you. Some seem to think that iOS is better because of it's sheer volume of Apps, but I find that the number of useful Apps in the Play Store is very good.

smellysox8
Oct 30, 2012, 10:26 AM
People who say that Google Play app store has a worse selection of apps or a worse quality of apps are people who never touched an Android device.

mattopotamus
Oct 30, 2012, 10:36 AM
For those who place a high value on frivolous fart apps, and that type of App Android will disappoint you. Some seem to think that iOS is better because of it's sheer volume of Apps, but I find that the number of useful Apps in the Play Store is very good.

It is very annoying when I am looking for a new app and out of the top 25 maybe 2 are useful (apple app store).

sixteen12
Oct 30, 2012, 10:57 AM
It is very annoying when I am looking for a new app and out of the top 25 maybe 2 are useful (apple app store).

That's always the case and has been on every platform for years. Most downloaded apps are very rarely the powerful and useful apps, but the stupid mindless games.

SpyderBite
Oct 30, 2012, 11:01 AM
But the whole iOS ecosystem is overstated anyhow. Way too much redundancy, how many fart apps do you need?

What does the apple ecosystem (interactively sharing data between Apple products) have to so with fart apps?

zbarvian
Oct 30, 2012, 11:02 AM
Both platforms have the essentials, though iOS is generally better. In games and more specific apps like artsy music, photo, or video ones, iOS shines. Plus I find the quality better on iOS. It stopped being a numbers game when both stores hit 300,000 or so. Now it's a qualitative thing, and iOS will be winning for a long time. Not to mention, many apps on the Play Store aren't apps at all.

PhoenixMac
Oct 30, 2012, 11:09 AM
I love how people say that the apps store are completely equal when they are not. It is totally dependent on your personal uses!

For mine I went right down my list of most used apps and about a third of them were not available and had no viable alternative on android. Just because all the apps YOU use are available doesn't not mean someone else's apps are available as well.

I'm not bashing android as I have a nexus 7 and use it frequently I'm just saying check out the apps YOU use to determine if it fits YOUR needs. As they do not fit everyone's needs. The same could be said from switching from android to iOS as there are 2 apps on android that aren't available on iOS that I really like.

ReanimationN
Oct 30, 2012, 11:25 AM
What you have to watch out for is country specific apps. The US sound like their app selection is on par, however, for Australian specific apps, Google Play is awful. No Coastalwatch, no official NRL app, the Commonwealth Bank's apps are terrible, slow and buggy iPhone ports, no ASP app (Association of Surfing Professionals, i.e. the official surfing world tour app) etc etc.

Plus some of the apps that are actually there, such as Sportsmate's Rugby League Live, won't run on a Nexus 7. Joy. Make sure that if you use any UK specific apps that they're in the Google Play store, that they're actually decent (not shoddy, poor imitations of iPhone apps) and that they'll work with the device you want to get.

Rodster
Oct 30, 2012, 11:32 AM
The success of the N7 will help immeasurably but according to an article just posted on Engadget Google is closing in on 700K apps. Which can only mean another 25 cents apps sale. :D

MikeAK
Oct 30, 2012, 11:35 AM
I love how people say that the apps store are completely equal when they are not. It is totally dependent on your personal uses!

For mine I went right down my list of most used apps and about a third of them were not available and had no viable alternative on android. Just because all the apps YOU use are available doesn't not mean someone else's apps are available as well.

I'm not bashing android as I have a nexus 7 and use it frequently I'm just saying check out the apps YOU use to determine if it fits YOUR needs. As they do not fit everyone's needs. The same could be said from switching from android to iOS as there are 2 apps on android that aren't available on iOS that I really like.

Name a few. I bet there are alternatives. You sound like somebody who is angry that Android has caught up. Either way, name some of your most used apps and I'm almost certain there is an Android equivalent.

Apollo 13
Oct 30, 2012, 11:39 AM
Google Play just announced that they now have as many apps as Apple (700,000).

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/google-play-store-matches-apples-as-it-hits-700000-apps-1108577

Themes, live wall papers, wallpapers, toggle widgets, carrier only apps, battery savining utility apps are apps now? Because that's what is being counted along with apps. On top of the apps any joe can throw on there.
People who say that Google Play app store has a worse selection of apps or a worse quality of apps are people who never touched an Android device.
wrong cuz I have both and the app selection is worst. I have **** load of games on my phone that will never be on android. I even sent Devs emails on iOS asking for certain apps to get ported to android so I can use on my tablet. I got two replaces back about the piracy rate being to high to even port them.

sarcosis
Oct 30, 2012, 11:40 AM
I find that games are hands down better on iOS. They usually seem to work and compatibility is usually never an issue unless you are using older hardware. There have been too many times when i am like, why can't my high end phone run this last gen game and others can? Just mind boggling for the Android Play Store. They've got some great games, just little issues and what not, still not up to snuff to iOS IMO.

As for everything else, i would say there is parity and even some better apps. I love the Scope app that manages my Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare feeds and posts. I have not yet found a good alternative that merges everything together in iOS. That's just one example. If you are rooted, there's even more the store can offer.

Stuntman06
Oct 30, 2012, 02:22 PM
For things that I need, I can find everything I need on Android. I am not a heavy gamer, so I am not sure about the games. My impression is that for gaming, iOS still has a greater selection although that gap has been closing as time goes by.

What I find that is lacking are apps that can run on my tablet in landscape. I have a Transformer tablet with a keyboard dock. The tablet docks in landscape orientation. It is annoying when you launch an app that can only be displayed in portrait on my tablet. I sent a comment to a developer of one of these apps and his response is to use the mobile web site instead. That just pisses me off. If you are going to tell me to use the mobile web site, why botther letting me download the app in the first place?

Tarzanman
Oct 30, 2012, 02:45 PM
If you are gaming on your tablet a lot, then you are probably a kid.

I gave my android tablet to my nephew and he loaded all sorts of games on it within 15 minutes.

Gaming is better on the iphone, but i don't game on touch screen devices.

Dave.UK
Oct 30, 2012, 02:53 PM
Themes, live wall papers, wallpapers, toggle widgets, carrier only apps, battery savining utility apps are apps now? Because that's what is being counted along with apps. On top of the apps any joe can throw on there.


I suppose all those fart apps on ios are a lot more useful....... :rolleyes:

onthecouchagain
Oct 30, 2012, 03:01 PM
With the proliferation of the Nexus line, App selection and quality and optimization will improve.

PhoenixMac
Oct 30, 2012, 03:05 PM
Name a few. I bet there are alternatives. You sound like somebody who is angry that Android has caught up. Either way, name some of your most used apps and I'm almost certain there is an Android equivalent.

day one as it syncs with the desktop app, omnifocus as it also syncs with the desktop and iPad app, tweetbot (ever twitter app I have used on android nothing compares and the best one I have found is the native twitter app, deliveries gives push notifications as my package moves, all of the android delivery status apps either do not have a lot of shippers listed or do not do push notifications as well if at all, and amazon mobile I can not download to my Nexus as it says it is incompatible with that device.

Those are just a few, please tell me some alternatives that give the same features of the ones listed.

And I could care less if Android catches up, I actually hope they do catch up and maybe surpass Apple, competition is good for consumers.

Apollo 13
Oct 30, 2012, 03:06 PM
I suppose all those fart apps on ios are a lot more useful....... :rolleyes:

Don't know cuz I never downloaded one, but android has a crap ton of them too with other soundboards. Don't act like the google store isn't flooded with fart apps.

Dr McKay
Oct 30, 2012, 03:29 PM
When you get to the amount of apps in each platform, it becomes irellevant. I can't remember the article but it said that only 40% of apps on the App Store in iOS have even been downloaded. Most just get buried and lost among the crowd.

mib1800
Oct 31, 2012, 12:45 AM
Almost all apps (except games) in Appstore have equivalent in Play. But not the other way round. I can't find the following apps in Appstore which I am using in my S3:-

- A File Explorer that combines phone and cloud storages (box, gdrive, db etc) using side-by-side views allowing easy movement of files betw. storages. Ability to use the "Open With..." to open file using any registered & installed apps.

- Call Manager. Manage and schedule black/white list based on time/calendar entries. Also ability to track in-out call durations/costs. Also repeated reminders for missed events

- Call Recorder to record calls.

- Ring Profile Manager - i.e. on/off ring sound based on time, events or rules.

- Multi-clipboard (last 50 clippings + predefined text) to easily enter/paste text anywhere.

- Background write entries into a (sub) Google calendar for calls/sms activities (like a diary). Very useful if you have multiple cell lines. No need to move log/sms from one phone to another any more.

- Create one click direct send for pre-specified sms on the home screen.

- Auto send pre-defined sms/email to contacts birthday / anniversary. Auto backup data. Auto check-in to social networks based on location. Auto background upload of photos to social networks.

- Location-based (cell tower/gps) automation. e.g. when picking up someone auto-send a reminder sms when you are near predefined pickup point. Or turn on/off phone settings (BT, wifi, sound etc) when you enter/exit a certain predefined location.

- Simple scripting environment for automation. e,g Tasker app.

- NFC-based (e.g. tectiles) apps

- Home/Launcher replacement, Lock screen replacement, Live Wallpaper, Widgets

doboy
Oct 31, 2012, 01:16 AM
I suppose all those fart apps on ios are a lot more useful....... :rolleyes:

Why don't you count the number of fart apps in both app stores and report back. Don't know why people always bring up non-existing fart apps from 2009 into conversations thinking they are so clever. :confused:

marc11
Oct 31, 2012, 01:43 AM
From my experience my major apps that I use everyday omnifocus and day one they do not have, simple apps like amazon mobile are not available for the nexus 7 and the quality of the apps they do have compared side by side(tablet) do not compare at all.

So I have relegated my Nexus 7 use as a GPS/Spotify radio for my car and picking up a mini as my everyday tablet in conjunction with my iPhone for productivity.

Huh, I just saw Amazon mobile on the play store last night, along with Amazon player and the Amazon app store.

PhoenixMac
Oct 31, 2012, 02:15 AM
Huh, I just saw Amazon mobile on the play store last night, along with Amazon player and the Amazon app store.

see attached photo.

marc11
Oct 31, 2012, 02:27 AM
see attached photo.

Wow, I didn't notice that. Odd, thanks for the notice.

roxxette
Oct 31, 2012, 03:23 AM
Check for yourself the google store, compare the apps you use and see if they are available plus prices; i doubt you wont find the apps you need or alternatives.

Android have pushed a lot the last years.

roxxette
Oct 31, 2012, 03:25 AM
What does the apple ecosystem (interactively sharing data between Apple products) have to so with fart apps?

People always bring the fart apps :) i think the "ToDo" apps and remainders have taken that crown lol

charlieegan3
Oct 31, 2012, 03:46 AM
The play store is really good, it has a great selection of free and paid apps. It used to be bad though and they're still recovering from that.

Dolorian
Oct 31, 2012, 06:47 AM
Coming from an iPhone 4, I've found every app I use and need on the Play Store. It has a great selection and there are a lot of apps.

Dave.UK
Oct 31, 2012, 06:54 AM
Why don't you count the number of fart apps in both app stores and report back. Don't know why people always bring up non-existing fart apps from 2009 into conversations thinking they are so clever. :confused:

Have you followed the discussion or just jumped in at my post? :rolleyes:

My post was in reference to the Apollo saying "Themes, live wall papers, wallpapers, toggle widgets, carrier only apps, battery savining utility apps" shouldn't be classed as apps in Google Play.

Well if useful programs like that shouldn't be classed as apps, then why should fart apps in ios store that serve no purpose.

Stuntman06
Oct 31, 2012, 12:34 PM
Themes, live wall papers, wallpapers, toggle widgets, carrier only apps, battery savining utility apps are apps now? Because that's what is being counted along with apps. On top of the apps any joe can throw on there.

Why not? Many people like these things. I personally use a volume toggle widget to switch quickly between different sound profiles.

onthecouchagain
Oct 31, 2012, 12:55 PM
Sharing: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Malware-on-Android-is-it-really-the-problem-security-companies-tout-it-to-be_id36157

"To quickly recap, malware on Android is not the issue some want you to believe it is. The sandboxing model keeps your phone safe, and common sense and the Google Play market make it bullet-proof against spyware and other corrupt apps. Everything else boils down to scaremongering and third-partyapp catalogs, and you already know you shouldn't download anything from there, don't you?"

PhoenixMac
Oct 31, 2012, 10:12 PM
Name a few. I bet there are alternatives. You sound like somebody who is angry that Android has caught up. Either way, name some of your most used apps and I'm almost certain there is an Android equivalent.

Find any to the ones I mentioned?

b24pgg
Oct 31, 2012, 10:36 PM
I don't know what your definition of "good selection" is, but the Google Play Store now has over 700,000 apps.

I'd say that's a good selection.

Stuntman06
Nov 1, 2012, 02:54 PM
The problem I have with a number of Android apps is that the app developers got lazy and made it look like an iOS app. The back button doesn't work properly. Instead of moving me back to the previous screen, it exits the app. It took me a while to realise what was happening and to press that button that had the pointy left side to go back. I don't use iOS much, so this wasn't obvious to me.

MikeAK
Nov 1, 2012, 02:58 PM
Find any to the ones I mentioned?

Didn't even look. did you?

stockscalper
Nov 1, 2012, 03:31 PM
I have a lot of apps on my phone. When I switched from IOS to Android I found most of the same apps by name. The few that weren't available on Android I was able to find replacements by other vendors that worked just as well. You just have to search the store. As of today, there are 700,,000 apps in the Play Store, same number as in Apple's store.

You're never going to find everything the same and that's always been the case going back to the beginning of the micro computer days when you had a variety of operating systems - Atari, Commodore, CPM, TI-994, Amiga, etc. To me it's a good thing there are some differences between platforms.

As I said in another post, IOS and Android boil down to individual preferences. I'm able to do so much more with an Android phone that I ever did with my iPhone. But I'm sure there are others who will say exactly the opposite. That's the great thing about having choice - hopefully there is a platform out there that works the way you do.

Lindenhurst
Nov 1, 2012, 06:56 PM
People who say that Google Play app store has a worse selection of apps or a worse quality of apps are people who never touched an Android device.

This..

PhoenixMac
Nov 2, 2012, 08:11 AM
Didn't even look. did you?

why yes, when I received my Galaxy Nexus and again when I got my Nexus 7, no substitute apps for the ones I use which is why I was saying that it totally depends on each persons use if the selection is good or not.

MikeAK
Nov 2, 2012, 10:48 AM
why yes, when I received my Galaxy Nexus and again when I got my Nexus 7, no substitute apps for the ones I use which is why I was saying that it totally depends on each persons use if the selection is good or not.

Yeah I agree with you there. Surprises me though. Usually there is an equivalent app.

iEvolution
Nov 2, 2012, 07:21 PM
I personally haven't had a problem with the selection of twblet optimized apps, however the store needs an upgrade to seperate phone apps from tablet apps.

Right now its like a shot in the dark to find optimized tablet apps but there is a decent amount if you know where to look. The staff tablet recommended apps section for instance.

Android selection for tablets is getting better and better however the way the store is setup getting these apps can be time consuming. I'd almost like it better if google would just make phone apps incompatible with tablets.

Bottomline, I feel as though it is the store layout that is the problem that makes it a pain to find apps rather than the actual availability.