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MacRumors
Oct 30, 2012, 11:10 AM
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Earlier this year, Other World Computing (OWC) announced the launch (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/14/other-world-computing-releases-aftermarket-ssd-upgrade-for-retina-macbook-pro/) of its 480 GB Mercury Aura Pro (http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012/) solid-state drive for the 15-inch Retina MacBook Pro. Some questioned the cost-effectiveness of pursuing such an upgrade, however, given its $579.99 price tag compared to Apple's $500 charge to boost the standard 256 GB drive to a 512 GB drive, although aftermarket upgrade users can also keep their original drives for external use.

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OWC has now announced (http://blog.macsales.com/15381-owc-announces-mercury-aura-pro-as-industrys-first-solid-state-drive-upgrade-for-the-new-13-inch-macbook-pro-with-retina-display) that it has certified this same Mercury Auro Pro drive for use in the 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro released last week, and Apple's decision to offer a 128 GB drive in the entry-level model may make OWC's offering a more appealing option for those looking to upgrade storage capacity on their machines.In addition to offering significantly more capacity over the factory base 128GB SSD, the 480GB Mercury Aura Pro offers a $220 savings over the comparable sized 512GB factory capacity upgrade costing $800.While OWC's aftermarket solid-state drive is currently offered only in 480 GB capacity, the company does note that additional capacities will be coming in November. Apple offers 128 GB, 256 GB, 512 GB, and 768 GB options in the 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro, with all but the lowest capacity available in the 15-inch models.

Article Link: OWC Certifies 480 GB Aftermarket SSD Upgrade for 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/30/owc-certifies-480-gb-aftermarket-ssd-upgrade-for-13-inch-retina-macbook-pro/)



xxgilxx
Oct 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
Nice...

Tucom
Oct 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
I personally wouldn't want to open up a glued laptop and risk it's integrity and build quality just to upgrade what can be ordered via Apple's own website.


I'd fear it'd fall apart. Or maybe I'm not clued in on how it's actually put together, and it may be totally harmless?

Virtualball
Oct 30, 2012, 11:19 AM
Yikes, that's a lot of money... A fast 480 GB SSD is $400-500 but those are standard. Hopefully these will go down in price as time goes on :o

dukebound85
Oct 30, 2012, 11:19 AM
I personally wouldn't want to open up a glued laptop and risk it's integrity and build quality just to upgrade what can be ordered via Apple's own website.


I'd fear it'd fall apart.

its not glued

iRCL
Oct 30, 2012, 11:30 AM
More crappy SSDs from OWC. Nice. Search the forums to see the myriad problems with OWC SSDs before buying one

everything-i
Oct 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
I personally wouldn't want to open up a glued laptop and risk it's integrity and build quality just to upgrade what can be ordered via Apple's own website.


I'd fear it'd fall apart. Or maybe I'm not clued in on how it's actually put together, and it may be totally harmless?

Accessing the SSD is no more complex than in the ordinary MBP just a few small screws to remove the bottom cover the SSD can then be easily be swapped out.

NB: Pentalobe screwdriver required for this

Kabeyun
Oct 30, 2012, 11:44 AM
iRCL's comment notwithstanding, are the OWC drives worth a look? $200 is indeed more money, but that also gets you more storage and the piece of mind of something Apple assembled and warrants. The OWC drive would have to be dramatically better for me to consider it.

Frign
Oct 30, 2012, 11:48 AM
OWC is my life support. In many aspects getting parts there can save you lots of money (and time).

Codyak
Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
I personally wouldn't want to open up a glued laptop and risk it's integrity and build quality just to upgrade what can be ordered via Apple's own website.


I'd fear it'd fall apart. Or maybe I'm not clued in on how it's actually put together, and it may be totally harmless?

All of five seconds of Google could answer and show it's even easier than replacing it on a standard laptop.

Naimfan
Oct 30, 2012, 11:53 AM
Interesting to see if OWC will then assume the voided Apple warranty . . . :rolleyes:

Or did OWC receive written authorization from Apple?

nick_elt
Oct 30, 2012, 12:06 PM
How did this not make front Page but people getting their smart covers early did?

jav6454
Oct 30, 2012, 12:10 PM
In this day and age, a damn SSD shouldn't cost as much. Just look at Intel's latest 325. It's in the $200 range for a nice beyond 240GB SSD. Apple wants to charge $800 for something Intel barely charges $500. Crazy.

McGiord
Oct 30, 2012, 12:21 PM
More crappy SSDs from OWC. Nice. Search the forums to see the myriad problems with OWC SSDs before buying one

Some of the first models they sold were having issues. Nowadays they are good and reliable drives.
They offer good customer service, detailed instruction about how to perform the installation and caters a good service that many of us appreciate.
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What entity is certifying these drives?

Jibbajabba
Oct 30, 2012, 12:30 PM
How did this not make front Page but people getting their smart covers early did?

Are you saying you are not excited to see someone else's tracking information :-/

Feck know who decides what's front page material, but decisions really are ....... Odd.

All Taken
Oct 30, 2012, 01:00 PM
Interesting to see if OWC will then assume the voided Apple warranty . . . :rolleyes:

Or did OWC receive written authorization from Apple?

The machine warranty is still valid. Any replacement part that is used and not installed by an authorised service provider is not covered so this aftermarket SSD is not covered under Apple warranty but the entire remainder of the machine is. It's that simple and has been clarified several times with apple executive relations.

If a manufacturer can prove the replacement part caused other issues related to warranty service they have a case but otherwise they just provide warranty for everything except that part.

nick_elt
Oct 30, 2012, 01:08 PM
Are you saying you are not excited to see someone else's tracking information :-/

Feck know who decides what's front page material, but decisions really are ....... Odd.

Well if it's ios = front Page it seems these days

Macs = wherever

Naimfan
Oct 30, 2012, 01:12 PM
The machine warranty is still valid. Any replacement part that is used and not installed by an authorised service provider is not covered so this aftermarket SSD is not covered under Apple warranty but the entire remainder of the machine is. It's that simple and has been clarified several times with apple executive relations.

If a manufacturer can prove the replacement part caused other issues related to warranty service they have a case but otherwise they just provide warranty for everything except that part.

That's incorrect under US law. Apple's warranty disclaims itself (which Apple is within their rights to do) in the event of any "unauthorized modification." Since there are no user-serviceable parts inside a retina (as opposed to the cMBP), Apple can void the warranty of a machine where someone has changed the SSD. No evidence of damage is required. Hence my question of whether OWC has received written authorization from Apple.

MacFly123
Oct 30, 2012, 02:29 PM
That wallpaper is UGLY! :eek:

scottsjack
Oct 30, 2012, 02:30 PM
Well if it's ios = front Page it seems these days

Macs = wherever

You got that right. It's "iOStoysRumors.

magbarn
Oct 30, 2012, 03:35 PM
Too bad Samsung doesn't license to OWC or sell rMBP compatible drives in the 3rd party market. I'd get OWC if they would dump the crappy sandforce controllers their drives use. I need a SSD that doesn't drop 50% performance with filevault.

boomer0001
Oct 30, 2012, 05:54 PM
That's incorrect under US law. Apple's warranty disclaims itself (which Apple is within their rights to do) in the event of any "unauthorized modification." Since there are no user-serviceable parts inside a retina (as opposed to the cMBP), Apple can void the warranty of a machine where someone has changed the SSD. No evidence of damage is required. Hence my question of whether OWC has received written authorization from Apple.

As I work for an AASP, Apple sends people to us that wants to modify their machine by using an Authorized Provider to maintain their warranty. We've put in SSD/HDD combo's in MBP's and iMacs and Apple honors their warranty because they used an AASP. With Retina Displays, it may not be User accessible, but it is AASP accessible and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't honor the warranty as long as an AASP performed the service work. My advice would be to call Apple prior to taking it in to an AASP so they can have it on their logs that you contacted them prior to performing any work as well as keeping receipts of the work performed after the date of the call.

IGregory
Oct 30, 2012, 06:17 PM
How did this not make front Page but people getting their smart covers early did?

Because most of us don't go screwing around with a nicely built machine.

Naimfan
Oct 30, 2012, 06:47 PM
As I work for an AASP, Apple sends people to us that wants to modify their machine by using an Authorized Provider to maintain their warranty. We've put in SSD/HDD combo's in MBP's and iMacs and Apple honors their warranty because they used an AASP. With Retina Displays, it may not be User accessible, but it is AASP accessible and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't honor the warranty as long as an AASP performed the service work. My advice would be to call Apple prior to taking it in to an AASP so they can have it on their logs that you contacted them prior to performing any work as well as keeping receipts of the work performed after the date of the call.

Certainly, and that's in line with what the law is. You work for an authorized Apple Service Center, and have, in effect, Apple's permission to work on machines. However, Apple could still void the warranty because the specific modification has not been authorized.

OldSchoolMacGuy
Oct 30, 2012, 08:23 PM
The machine warranty is still valid. Any replacement part that is used and not installed by an authorised service provider is not covered so this aftermarket SSD is not covered under Apple warranty but the entire remainder of the machine is. It's that simple and has been clarified several times with apple executive relations.

If a manufacturer can prove the replacement part caused other issues related to warranty service they have a case but otherwise they just provide warranty for everything except that part.

That's incorrect under US law. Apple's warranty disclaims itself (which Apple is within their rights to do) in the event of any "unauthorized modification." Since there are no user-serviceable parts inside a retina (as opposed to the cMBP), Apple can void the warranty of a machine where someone has changed the SSD. No evidence of damage is required. Hence my question of whether OWC has received written authorization from Apple.

Exactly. US courts have held that the above holds true for cars where the dealer must show that the modifications caused the failure but not so for consumer electronics. Apple will void your warranty for something like this. RAM upgrades do not void the warranty. Sucks that one can't sell their original SSD for fear they may have issues and need to swap back to it but that's just how it goes.

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Because most of us don't go screwing around with a nicely built machine.

Werd. Very very few people will do this to their machines. Far less than 1%. Decent chance more than that will consider a Smart Cover.

skunnykart
Oct 30, 2012, 10:49 PM
Nice...

Not really.
Don't be fooled by the OWCs benchmarks and read/write data.

Swapping out the Samsung 830 for a sandforce controlled OWC SSD is a "downgrade" overall (except more capacity).

Not worth it.
You void your warranty for a SSD that is a poor performer.

If you really need more storage then you're better off getting an external drive via USB 3.0 on the 13inch rMBP.

A 256 Samsung 830 which can be purchased for around $200 housed in a USB 3.0 external enclosure would be better for more capacity than swapping out a good ssd for a poor performer like the OWC ones.

designgeek
Oct 31, 2012, 02:48 AM
Yikes, that's a lot of money... A fast 480 GB SSD is $400-500 but those are standard. Hopefully these will go down in price as time goes on :o

I used to say this too, but that was years ago and OWC's prices seem to never come down. It probably doesn't help that they have the market cornered. :(

nick_elt
Oct 31, 2012, 03:20 AM
Because most of us don't go screwing around with a nicely built machine.

Wow. So doing something simple like upgrading the storage is now "screwing around".

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Werd. Very very few people will do this to their machines. Far less than 1%. Decent chance more than that will consider a Smart Cover.

I hope you post your smart cover unboxing and personal review. I cant wait!

itsamacthing
Oct 31, 2012, 04:37 AM
I got an OWC SSD last year for my Mini and it was very unstable, after a few firmware updates that changed and it has been stable...but the read and writes are not that great. It's their top of the line SSD and I only get 200 read, 400 write... the Apple Samsung SSDs are crushing that. As for me, I would never buy an OWC SSD again. I will only buy the SSD from Apple, I like a stable and fast Mac.

JGRE
Oct 31, 2012, 06:52 AM
OCZ does not use the Sandforce controller anymore in their Vertex 4 SSD drives, because they were rubbish.......

ikir
Oct 31, 2012, 07:27 AM
OWC SSD are best quality and support. Great to see they works on 13" retina too. For sure next year I will buy a new notebook and it will be a MacBookPro 13" retina.

tbrinkma
Oct 31, 2012, 08:47 AM
Wow. So doing something simple like upgrading the storage is now "screwing around".

You misunderstand. If you were to take a random sample of 100 desktop computer owners, you could, statistically speaking, count the number of people who have even opened their case on one hand. If you were to do the same for laptops, you'd have trouble doing that, because odds are you wouldn't have anyone to count.

So, yes. Something as simple as upgrading storage *is* 'screwing around'. If you were to grab a random sample of people from *here*, or a tech-centric site, those numbers would be drastically different, but don't get that confused with the general population.

ThomasJL
Oct 31, 2012, 01:32 PM
Apple has configured OS X to enable TRIM support only with Apple-provided SSDs.

All Taken
Nov 1, 2012, 06:19 PM
Apple has configured OS X to enable TRIM support only with Apple-provided SSDs.

Enabling trim on non-apple SSDs is no more complicated than adding a photo of somebody using google search to Facebook. One app download called TrimEnabler, and selecting 'On'.

Jibbajabba
Nov 5, 2012, 05:14 AM
Swapping out the Samsung 830 for a sandforce controlled OWC SSD is a "downgrade" overall (except more capacity).

Pretty much - but people usually do that anyway - how many people swap out their stock HDDs in PCs with 7200RPM to get higher capacities ending up with 5400RPM ;)

ThomasJL
Nov 6, 2012, 06:25 PM
Enabling trim on non-apple SSDs is no more complicated than adding a photo of somebody using google search to Facebook. One app download called TrimEnabler, and selecting 'On'.

That's a wonderful way to risk data corruption. For people who consider their data valuable and precious, gambling with it by using a non-Apple-supported TRIM enabler is highly foolish.

All Taken
Nov 6, 2012, 07:17 PM
That's a wonderful way to risk data corruption. For people who consider their data valuable and precious, gambling with it by using a non-Apple-supported TRIM enabler is highly foolish.

The third party SSD receives the same command an Apple SSD would receive, this enabler simply tells OSX to support trim on xyz SSD.

I really don't understand your point, seems to me you're trying to instil an air of fear because it's something you don't understand. 'It's not an apple rule so it must be wrong and bad!' :rolleyes:

Apple purposely handicapped TRIM on any SSD othr than their own for one reason, greed. It does no harm to use this command with other SSDs.

You're truly foolish if you think that enabling TRIM is leaving people open to data corruption. :p

skunnykart
Nov 6, 2012, 10:22 PM
Pretty much - but people usually do that anyway - how many people swap out their stock HDDs in PCs with 7200RPM to get higher capacities ending up with 5400RPM ;)

But the difference between OWC and Samsung is pretty big.
Benchmarks may suggest to you that the difference is negligible but in real life usage the OWC is a really poor performer. When it comes to encryption and working with in-compressible files the OWC is really noticeably slow.

Going from 7200 RPM to 5400 RPM is technically a downgrade but there are enough positives to make a worthwhile "downgrade". With 5400 RPM you can get bigger capacity, and also less noise and vibration which is pretty significant for many noise conscious people.

But going from Samsung 830 to OWC is really not worth it. the negatives significnatly outweighs the positives.