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MacRumors
Oct 31, 2012, 12:38 PM
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Apple has started selling (http://nikeinc.com/news/nike-launches-new-nike-fuelband-colors-and-increases-retail-distribution#/inline/15338) the Nike+ FuelBand (in two new colors) in Apple Retail Stores and the Online Store in the US, Canada and the UK. In some ways it's surprising that it took this long for Apple to begin carrying the wristband which launched early this year; we noted Monday that Apple likes to carry app-enabled accessories (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/29/phillips-to-sell-ios-controlled-led-light-bulbs-exclusively-through-apple-stores/).

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Apple CEO Tim Cook is a Nike board member and noted fitness enthusiast and has disclosed in the past that he wears a FuelBand.
The Nike+ FuelBand is an innovative wrist-based device that tracks and measures the user's activity during any given day and designates a score for the activity in the form of NikeFuel. NikeFuel is a normalized score that awards all users of the Nike+ FuelBand equal scoring for the same activity regardless of their physical make up. The Nike+ FuelBand also captures and displays time, calories and steps. An intuitive mobile application allows the user to review all the activity captured by the product.The Nike+ FuelBand is available (http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=nike%2B+fuelband) for $149 in a number of sizes, both in Apple Retail Stores and online.

Article Link: Apple Begins Selling the Nike+ FuelBand in Stores and Online (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/10/31/apple-begins-selling-the-nike-fuelband-in-stores-and-online/)



Z400Racer37
Oct 31, 2012, 12:41 PM
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...Why?

phoneorpda
Oct 31, 2012, 12:44 PM
I am sure they did it just to spite you.


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...Why?

Intarweb
Oct 31, 2012, 12:44 PM
Still way overpriced.

critter13
Oct 31, 2012, 12:45 PM
$149?! Ha

janderson0719
Oct 31, 2012, 12:46 PM
Still way overpriced.

Still want. Looks bad ass. Almost has a Back to the Future 2 feel to it. Nike Air Mags anyone?

finnns2000
Oct 31, 2012, 12:50 PM
It looks awesome, but what a piece of garbage the FuelBand is. I was one of the first adopters, and since then went through 4 replacements before selling the last one on eBay. It can motivate you when it works, but that's rare.

MyMacintosh
Oct 31, 2012, 12:54 PM
Why?! For just 200.00 more you could get an iPad Mini!!! /sarcasm

Nozuka
Oct 31, 2012, 01:00 PM
This band is probably part of the history books in the movie "in time"

OldSchoolMacGuy
Oct 31, 2012, 01:07 PM
I prefer my Jawbone UP. Too bad they fail so often. I bought mine in December because they announced they'd be refunding all purchases yet continuing to support them. So basically I paid $99 then got a $106 check and got to keep the band. Works great.... when it works. They fail, a lot. I've gone through 10 since December and would have gone through more but they ran out of them about a month ago so I'm now waiting for more to come in so they can send me another one just to have it fail again after a month or so they seem to last.

At first when they issued the recall press release, they claimed they had tracked the problem to 2 capacitors. Sorry but that's not the issue. If it was, they would have simply replaced them and been back in business right away. It's almost a year later now and they haven't released them back to the market. Obviously more than that is going on.

Still, when they work, they're great. Plug it into your iPhone to download all the data. Nice to be able to map out my running and biking routes. Wakeup feature works great at getting you up and feeling refreshed.

Hope they release them again soon. Then they'll start putting more attention back into them and hopefully we'll see some updated to them and the iOS app.

Prof.
Oct 31, 2012, 01:11 PM
What's the science behind that thing, if any...?

portishead
Oct 31, 2012, 01:14 PM
If Apple puts iCrap on it site then the iSheeple will follow.

yo dawg I used to spell it like that too in 1995.

spazzcat
Oct 31, 2012, 01:35 PM
Fitbit has more features and is cheaper

iPhD
Oct 31, 2012, 01:36 PM
fitbit.com
The fitbit tracker is also more discrete than the Nike version, fitting on a waistband. Another piece of data the fitbit tracks is number of flights of stairs ascended. Because commercial flights differ from residential flights, the fitbit awards 1 flight of ascension for every 10 feet change in altitude.

Before you ask, yes, I have become a bit of a data hound and find myself walking around my house or up and down stairs to earn higher values for the day. Walking without the fitbit now feels useless if I can't track this exercise against that of other days.

Menopause
Oct 31, 2012, 01:39 PM
If Apple puts iCrap on it site then the iSheeple will follow.

And you? Are you that lonely that you are wandering the iCrap/Sheeple forums, spreading pointless garbage?

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It looks awesome, but what a piece of garbage the FuelBand is. I was one of the first adopters, and since then went through 4 replacements before selling the last one on eBay. It can motivate you when it works, but that's rare.

May be you just had awfully bad luck, but 4 of my neighbors and I have it, we never ran into any problem whatsoever. Please refrain yourself from misleading people by calling it names. It's a great product.

gmanist1000
Oct 31, 2012, 01:40 PM
It looks awesome, but what a piece of garbage the FuelBand is. I was one of the first adopters, and since then went through 4 replacements before selling the last one on eBay. It can motivate you when it works, but that's rare.

I've had one since June and mine still works fine.

IGregory
Oct 31, 2012, 01:44 PM
So, Tim is on the Nike's Board of Directors. He must be pulling in a lot of dough.

Orange Crane
Oct 31, 2012, 01:47 PM
Anything like this work for cycling? Other than iPhone apps that is.

charlesdayton
Oct 31, 2012, 01:55 PM
I wish it had the inactivity timer and sleeptracking alarm of the failed Jawbone Up.

Analog Kid
Oct 31, 2012, 01:59 PM
I think I'm missing the point of all this... It used to be that people ran a few miles to get exercise. If you wanted to know how far you ran, you looked at a map, or drove the route in your car. If you wanted to know if you were burning enough calories to stay fit, you looked in the mirror or stepped on a scale.

Is the point of this thing to give you exercise "credit" for walking to the mailbox and then provide an indirect estimate of how many jelly donuts you've earned?

Counting steps? I know I've walked enough steps when I've gotten where I'm going. Does it have an audio output or something so the blind can use it to dead reckon?

And isn't "normalized scoring" to factor out body build just a way of saying that having no idea how big you are is a feature not a bug?

finnns2000
Oct 31, 2012, 02:00 PM
And you? Are you that lonely that you are wandering the iCrap/Sheeple forums, spreading pointless garbage?

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May be you just had awfully bad luck, but 4 of my neighbors and I have it, we never ran into any problem whatsoever. Please refrain yourself from misleading people by calling it names. It's a great product.

So? A look around the internetz and you can see many are having problems with this thing. This is not just a "me" issue, and refrain from misleading people with your lucky string of luck. Shouldn't be a crapshoot for $150.

I've had one since June and mine still works fine.

4 months, not bad but knock on wood. Longest one worked for me was 2 months.

iPhD
Oct 31, 2012, 02:05 PM
If you wanted to know how far you ran, you looked at a map, or drove the route in your car.

True, but that doesn't work inside buildings. And steps is also a measure of exercise. I aim for 10,000 steps a day–and this includes my 2 mile roundtrip walk to work–but there is no way I can walk and, well, count steps at the same time.

I don't use the data to justify a doughnut. I use the data as motivation to walk instead of jumping in the car for those two miles every day. It is an extrinsic motivator for me that works.

Porco
Oct 31, 2012, 02:42 PM
http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/10/NewImage46.png


One fuelband to rule them all, and in the fitness improve them…

bstpierre
Oct 31, 2012, 03:29 PM
I think I'm missing the point of all this... It used to be that people ran a few miles to get exercise. If you wanted to know how far you ran, you looked at a map, or drove the route in your car. If you wanted to know if you were burning enough calories to stay fit, you looked in the mirror or stepped on a scale.

Is the point of this thing to give you exercise "credit" for walking to the mailbox and then provide an indirect estimate of how many jelly donuts you've earned?

Counting steps? I know I've walked enough steps when I've gotten where I'm going. Does it have an audio output or something so the blind can use it to dead reckon?

And isn't "normalized scoring" to factor out body build just a way of saying that having no idea how big you are is a feature not a bug?

It's a motivational tool and it gives the user a more concrete and immediate answer to the question "Are they working out enough?" than looking in the mirror.

Also, counting steps encourages some people to take the longer route instead of the quicker one.

If you ever become Digital Kid you may understand it better. ;-)

Chupa Chupa
Oct 31, 2012, 05:31 PM
Fitbit has more features and is cheaper

fitbit.com
The fitbit tracker is also more discrete than the Nike version, fitting on a waistband. Another piece of data the fitbit tracks is number of flights of stairs ascended. Because commercial flights differ from residential flights, the fitbit awards 1 flight of ascension for every 10 feet change in altitude.

Before you ask, yes, I have become a bit of a data hound and find myself walking around my house or up and down stairs to earn higher values for the day. Walking without the fitbit now feels useless if I can't track this exercise against that of other days.

I like the fitbit better myself except that its not a bracelet. I lost two FBs because of that so went FuelBand. I wish they'd make a bracelet style.

Only thing I hate about Fuel Band is that it's constantly under reporting my activity. But it keeps me motivated just the same. I lost 30lbs & 3in off waist thanks to it & better eating habits. Also improved my passive heartbeat per min & heart rate recovery. Maybe I'm a sheep for buying one but I'm a healthy one.

peskaa
Oct 31, 2012, 05:34 PM
Not sure why the article lists this as available from the UK online store, as it isn't there as of 22:34 GMT...

REBELinBLUE
Oct 31, 2012, 05:35 PM
I've had one since June and mine still works fine.

I got mine in June and it started failing last week (only uploading part of the data, strange error messages etc).

Took it back to the Nike shop on monday and as soon as I mentioned the app complaining about "corrupt data" that was the end of the conversation, the guy just got me a replacement. None of the usual stuff you expect (did you try reinstalling the app, did you do factory reset etc); which makes me suspicious that there is a known issue with them.




Yeah it is a bit of a gimmick really, but it is really meant as a motivational tool I think, not as a replacement for a GPS watch etc. I got mine after I was out of action running wise to keep me motivated (hey I'm a geek, I like numbers ;)) and it generally worked, I found that I was walking to places that I would normally jump on the bus for.

aj350z
Oct 31, 2012, 05:57 PM
I've had the fuelband since it first came out. The wife pre-ordered it for me and I have been loving it everyday(Feb 22). Just reached the 800K Milestone marker!!! Have not had any problems with it. Now with that in mind the only concern i have is how long the material will stay fit with me having to flex it over my wrist everyday. I have noticed a "bulge" in the material.

The app is wonderful. I am a 8th grade math teacher and the data i collect actually gives the kids real world data that is meaningful to them. I am hoping this one lasts for a couple more years but i am curious as how Nike will treat them when the batteries start losing charging time.

spazzcat
Oct 31, 2012, 07:12 PM
I wish it had the inactivity timer and sleeptracking alarm of the failed Jawbone Up.

The new fitbit will have an alarm. It already tracks your sleeping.

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I like the fitbit better myself except that its not a bracelet. I lost two FBs because of that so went FuelBand. I wish they'd make a bracelet style.

Only thing I hate about Fuel Band is that it's constantly under reporting my activity. But it keeps me motivated just the same. I lost 30lbs & 3in off waist thanks to it & better eating habits. Also improved my passive heartbeat per min & heart rate recovery. Maybe I'm a sheep for buying one but I'm a healthy one.

Do you use the belt clip?

iMule
Oct 31, 2012, 07:14 PM
It's incredible. However, it doesn't represent the weights lifted. Some goon could beat their meat and get more Fuel than I could in an hour lifting weights. Nike had a great idea and I hope to see more of my friends buying one.

cav23j
Oct 31, 2012, 08:34 PM
I got mine in June and it started failing last week (only uploading part of the data, strange error messages etc).

which makes me suspicious that there is a known issue with them.



mine started failing last week also and i had it for like 6 months
sounds similar to what happened

something to do with the last firmware update that is affecting a certain amount number of devices I believe is the culprit

Nike can't figure out why because it is only affecting certain one's

andiwm2003
Nov 1, 2012, 09:15 AM
........ It can motivate you when it works, ..........

motivate to what? i never got the point of it. what am I missing?

Chupa Chupa
Nov 1, 2012, 10:36 AM
Do you use the belt clip?

Yes, but both still popped out while jogging... the whole thing belt clip w/ FB in it. Plus also a PITA to keep up with b/c you have to remember to remove the clip each time you change pants. The nice thing about a bracelet is that its on your arm 24/7 except charging. It becomes a part of you so that when it's off you have a visual reminder to put it back on.

Question for those who've had their Fuel Band since near the launch: did you at some point notice earning fewer points for the same routine? Curious b/c, for example, I do an 8mi run/walk interval on Sundays. I use to easily get 4-5K points. Then after a required firmware update my points decreased 30%. Nike exchanged my band but the new one also gets me fewer points.

JaySoul
Nov 1, 2012, 10:48 AM
I've had a FuelBand since the first day it was released in the UK (1st May) and it's one of the best purchases I've ever made in my entire life.

Absolutely love it. Lost 20 pounds in weight, gone from 26% body fat down to 10%. I'm the fittest I've been for 5 years.

It's not for everyone and my wife gave me so much heat for buying it, but now she wants one too - she's seen how good it has been for me.

charlesdayton
Nov 1, 2012, 12:31 PM
The new fitbit will have an alarm. It already tracks your sleeping.

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Do you use the belt clip?

It does have and a larm, but it is not as the one in the Up. The alarm in the Up wakes you only in the light phase of sleep (ie when you will wake up more alert.) Also it has a function that can alert you when you have spend an specific amount of time sedentary.

The Fitbit and Fuelband are great devices, but miss that kind of functionality.

spazzcat
Nov 1, 2012, 12:38 PM
It does have and a larm, but it is not as the one in the Up. The alarm in the Up wakes you only in the light phase of sleep (ie when you will wake up more alert.) Also it has a function that can alert you when you have spend an specific amount of time sedentary.

The Fitbit and Fuelband are great devices, but miss that kind of functionality.

One feature I do miss about the UP was the sedentary alarm.

charlesdayton
Nov 1, 2012, 12:47 PM
One feature I do miss about the UP was the sedentary alarm.

I still don't get how Jawbone messed things so much. They have been promising a fixed version for a very long time. At least they refunded costumers.


I wonder if the Sedentary/phase wake features are TM by Jawbone. Fitbit could easily implement both features on the Fitbit One with just a software update as it already has the sensors and alarm.

ctdonath
Nov 1, 2012, 09:43 PM
motivate to what? i never got the point of it. what am I missing?

Seems it's a sort of high-definition pedometer. It quantifies your activity level for the day, making it easier to set goals and know what's needed to meet them. I started using a simple pedometer for the last couple months, and increased my activity 40% by monitoring quantifiable increases in small activities; at the end of the day, I knew if I still had more to do and could easily reach my 10,000 steps per day goal (even if that meant walking a mile at midnight).

Knowing the motivating power of quantifying activity, I'm psyched to get this or some comparable "high-def pedometer". Having stopped using the cheap one (not keen on using something loudly labeled with my prior employer), I'm looking at making a step up - if only by finding a prior-gen iPod Nano at a pawn shop.

andiwm2003
Nov 2, 2012, 07:07 AM
Seems it's a sort of high-definition pedometer. It quantifies your activity level for the day, making it easier to set goals and know what's needed to meet them. I started using a simple pedometer for the last couple months, and increased my activity 40% by monitoring quantifiable increases in small activities; at the end of the day, I knew if I still had more to do and could easily reach my 10,000 steps per day goal (even if that meant walking a mile at midnight).

Knowing the motivating power of quantifying activity, I'm psyched to get this or some comparable "high-def pedometer". Having stopped using the cheap one (not keen on using something loudly labeled with my prior employer), I'm looking at making a step up - if only by finding a prior-gen iPod Nano at a pawn shop.

I still don't see why I would need to increase the amount I walk per day but anyway. What I find rather useful are heart rate monitors because at a certain age it's more important to limit your peak heart rate because overdoing this is what limits your activity. Does the Nike have a heart rate monitor built in?

ctdonath
Nov 2, 2012, 02:16 PM
I still don't see why I would need to increase the amount I walk per day but anyway.

The more you move, the more calories you burn.

Don't think there's a heartrate monitor in it. That's solving a different problem.

spinedoc77
Nov 2, 2012, 03:40 PM
Is it just me, or would that make a bad ass finger ring?