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JonL12345
Nov 4, 2012, 11:09 AM
With Android selling 5 times the number of phones in Q3 of 2012 than Apple, that can only mean one thing. Android apps are going to grow in number so fast that Apple's app store is going to look puny by comparison.

Think about it. If the Android market is 5 times the size of Apple's and growing month on month, its obvious where the money is. Watch this space. I think we are going to see something spectacular.

This will leave future Apple product reveal events as something where they no longer quote statistics, because they will be all against them!

Jon



Technarchy
Nov 4, 2012, 11:17 AM
Maybe someday when android users pay for more apps and content.

Till then, the greater profit potential is still all iOS...by a huge margin.

MikeAK
Nov 4, 2012, 11:18 AM
I believe change is inevitable. Apple have been atop for years and it's now becoming obvious that Android is on the rise. Devs are going to want to be apart of this and cash in before the rest. Android has gone through it's trials and errors and is now looking like it has a strong future. I am not sure if the Google store will "swamp" Apple's but I think one would have to be quite ignorant to deny that Android has a bright future.

Dr McKay
Nov 4, 2012, 11:18 AM
Then the same people who tout the App Store having more apps than the Google Play Store will suddenly go on about how the App Store has more "quality" apps, as this is something that cannot be proven or disproved, they'll spout it forever.

nuckinfutz
Nov 4, 2012, 11:23 AM
With Android selling 5 times the number of phones in Q3 of 2012 than Apple, that can only mean one thing. Android apps are going to grow in number so fast that Apple's app store is going to look puny by comparison.

Think about it. If the Android market is 5 times the size of Apple's and growing month on month, its obvious where the money is. Watch this space. I think we are going to see something spectacular.

This will leave future Apple product reveal events as something where they no longer quite statistics, because they will be all against them!

Jon

Jon you've never made a prediction that has come true.

Didn't Eric Schmidt say that by summer developers would be writing for Android first? On yes he did and here was a follow up.

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/07/flurry-mobile-apps-survey-20120/

He also said many tv would have Google TV in them and guess what?

They don't even let you order the Nexus Q HHAHAHAH.

Android users don't pay money for apps. Developers owe their existence to people paying for apps unless you're Angry Birds.

Apple developer tools are far better. This isn't going to happen.

Sorry

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I believe change is inevitable. Apple have been atop for years and it's now becoming obvious that Android is on the rise. Devs are going to want to be apart of this and cash in before the rest. Android has gone through it's trials and errors and is now looking like it has a strong future. I am not sure if the Google store will "swamp" Apple's but I think one would have to be quite ignorant to deny that Android has a bright future.

I can deny it when there's Windows coming with the Surface and Windows 8 phones.

Android is a free OS. Which means every hardware hack in China and Taiwan can slap together the crappiest mix of hardware and toss on some old Gingerbread garbage.

Yeah. If I'm a developer I'm gonna just stake my future on that market </sarcasm>

irDigital0l
Nov 4, 2012, 11:29 AM
That may be true...

Yet, people BUY more apps on the App Store, developers prefer to MAKE apps on the App Store, and more money is GENERATED on the App Store.

That get to the facts...go Google Play site and look at it. Google does have some of their own apps (Google Maps) but everything else is basically ported from the App Store with fewer apps and games.

I would love Google Play to be on par with the App Store so I could get an Android device but its still no where close although its improving.

For starters...
1. Add Infinity Blade II and Fieldrunners 2 :P
2. Make the Google Play site less crappy

paulsalter
Nov 4, 2012, 11:49 AM
IMO, for this we need to see less devices on the older OS's

Stop selling device that come with anything less than ICS
Developers can concentrate on Apps for JB/ICS

It will annoy some people who have devices on older versions (me included), but development needs to move forward, concentrate on features out now

More apps need updating to support Android 4.x and above & NOT Android 2.X and above

jsw
Nov 4, 2012, 11:56 AM
Google Play won't become a truly viable marketplace until Google enforces DRM on at least some tier of apps, period.

I love Google Play. I've gotten a ton of apps off it for my Nexus 7. There's a lot there that's really useful... but without DRM, there's a lot more of the really choice apps which are missing.

It's not because Android is harder to develop for - it's not. Java/eclipse/etc. are well known and easy to use, and the Android frameworks aren't bad. Xcode/Objective-C/Apple's frameworks are great as well, but there's at least as much of a learning curve there as on Android.

To me, it all has to do with DRM. Once you have that, and have more of the top-shelf apps, most people will buy them, and the profits lost to pirates won't be substantially worse than those lost to pirates via Jailbreak on iOS devices.

Then it will be a true horserace.

No, wait, once Google gets people to upgrade as well as Apple does, then it will be a true horserace. Supporting a million fractured versions will never truly pan out well.

onthecouchagain
Nov 4, 2012, 12:01 PM
For consideration: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Revenue-from-freemium-apps-shoots-up-paid-ones-stagnate-on-both-Android-and-iOS_id35982

"Revenue from freemium apps shoots up, paid ones stagnate on both Android and iOS"

Difficult to see, the future is. Always in motion...

tdream
Nov 4, 2012, 03:34 PM
Needs more users to start using ICS minimum.

As of the start of last month a quarter of total android users are using ICS and above. And only 1-2% are on Jelly Bean. That's crap no matter how you look at it. IMO anything pre ICS looks incredible ugly. The only reason I switched was because ICS finally brought Android up to speed as a viable competitor to Apple. Now the apps need to follow suit.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ics-jellybean-on-a-quarter-of-all-android-devices/

Another thing that annoys me about Google. I tried to buy my first Android app today and it wants my passport and address documentation. I didn't need to give Apple that to buy apps. Kind of bad when you think about it.

Tarzanman
Nov 4, 2012, 04:39 PM
Android user here. App piracy is certainly viable if you want to go that route (probably even easier than on iOS), but adware (free apps with advertisements) is an easier and pain-free alternative.

I still don't consider my tablets efficient tools for productive work, but they are a fun stop gap

Rodimus Prime
Nov 4, 2012, 06:38 PM
Google Play won't become a truly viable marketplace until Google enforces DRM on at least some tier of apps, period.

I love Google Play. I've gotten a ton of apps off it for my Nexus 7. There's a lot there that's really useful... but without DRM, there's a lot more of the really choice apps which are missing.

It's not because Android is harder to develop for - it's not. Java/eclipse/etc. are well known and easy to use, and the Android frameworks aren't bad. Xcode/Objective-C/Apple's frameworks are great as well, but there's at least as much of a learning curve there as on Android.

To me, it all has to do with DRM. Once you have that, and have more of the top-shelf apps, most people will buy them, and the profits lost to pirates won't be substantially worse than those lost to pirates via Jailbreak on iOS devices.

Then it will be a true horserace.

No, wait, once Google gets people to upgrade as well as Apple does, then it will be a true horserace. Supporting a million fractured versions will never truly pan out well.

I am going to point out Google already does that. When you upload your app you are given the choice on if you want to put in licencing and that does some stuff to the APK to put the DRM. It has been a while since i looked into it but I do know they have had it for quite a while. It used to be encrypting the APK threw Google which sadly would almost double its size but it did do that. The licencing is newer and Google handles that as well. Both are 100% free to devs. Hell even Amazon does it as well for its Apps. Yes they appear to be side loaded but Amazon is handling the security and DRM part. Linking them to the account just like Google does for its user accounts.

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Maybe someday when android users pay for more apps and content.

Till then, the greater profit potential is still all iOS...by a huge margin.

problem is we need more recent numbers that compare a set range (say only the past year) Android has been climbing and Apple has been falling.

cnev3
Nov 4, 2012, 08:29 PM
Android has always had the lions share of the mobile market. Both app stores have been around for years, yet you still have great apps that are not coming out on Android. The two most recent ones that come to mind are Punch Quest and NFS Most Wanted. Two very good games.

iAi
Nov 4, 2012, 10:40 PM
Android has always had the lions share of the mobile market. Both app stores have been around for years, yet you still have great apps that are not coming out on Android. The two most recent ones that come to mind are Punch Quest and NFS Most Wanted. Two very good games.

Thanks! Downloaded at my fantastic iPad mini. :cool:

Vegastouch
Nov 4, 2012, 11:00 PM
Maybe someday when android users pay for more apps and content.

Till then, the greater profit potential is still all iOS...by a huge margin.

That is year old data. Android has nearly as many Apps now and this past year millions and millions of Android phones have been sold at a bigger pace than ever before and gained a much bigger market share while Apples has gone down.

I dont know why we keep comparing the App stores. Who gives a crap. There are hundreds of thousands of Apps in both and the average user dont even use 100 of them and the Apps, from what i use are about the same in comparison.

kdarling
Nov 4, 2012, 11:12 PM
I wonder if anyone has taken the time to analyze the various app stores and determine exactly how many unique categories of apps there are.

Personally, I suspect that there's less than 10,000 unique types of apps even possible. Maybe even less than 3,000. Every app is just a copy or variation on those.

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Surveys show that most people use just a handful of apps every day, and that over a quarter of downloaded apps are only used once.

Everyone has their favorites, including some they just have to have. I remember a lot of people avoided the iPhone until Slingplayer was ported to it, for example.

Likewise, I usually use 7" Android tablets for casual web surfing, but if I want to watch TV via the Optimum app, my only choice right now is my iPad.

onthecouchagain
Nov 4, 2012, 11:18 PM
Hey, the devoted iPhone fans have to have something to cling onto!

Be it the milliseconds of screen response time (still no real numbers to actually articulate or prove exactly what that difference is, if any) or the vital few apps that Android doesn't have yet.

Really, is there anything else? It's down to nitpicking little things and then declaring them deal breakers. There once was a time when a non-retina display was a deal breaker (suddenly iPad Mini). There was once a time when larger screen devices was a deal breaker (Hello iPhone 5, and hello iPad Mini that can apparently be used with one hand according to Apple). People are free to choose whatever they want to use, of course, but make no mistake, the list behind the reasons have gotten shorter and less consequential since a year ago.

The one, and only one thing left that I will never challenge, however, is Apple's customer service, which I can still get with my macs and iPad. Alas, not with my smartphone.

LIVEFRMNYC
Nov 5, 2012, 12:15 AM
Maybe someday when android users pay for more apps and content.

Till then, the greater profit potential is still all iOS...by a huge margin.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/aug/16/android-winning-apps-china-smartphone




The one, and only one thing left that I will never challenge, however, is Apple's customer service, which I can still get with my macs and iPad. Alas, not with my smartphone.

I have nothing but praise for their customer service. Apple takes the cake on that.

jsw
Nov 5, 2012, 07:55 AM
I am going to point out Google already does that. When you upload your app you are given the choice on if you want to put in licencing and that does some stuff to the APK to put the DRM. It has been a while since i looked into it but I do know they have had it for quite a while. It used to be encrypting the APK threw Google which sadly would almost double its size but it did do that. The licencing is newer and Google handles that as well. Both are 100% free to devs. Hell even Amazon does it as well for its Apps. Yes they appear to be side loaded but Amazon is handling the security and DRM part. Linking them to the account just like Google does for its user accounts.
Excellent, and I (clearly) didn't know that. I've only created apps (simple ones) while playing around with the SDK.

One less barrier, and I think we'll see app parity even sooner now.

kas23
Nov 5, 2012, 08:04 AM
Maybe someday when android users pay for more apps and content.

Till then, the greater profit potential is still all iOS...by a huge margin.

I think we need some updated statistics.

tdream
Nov 5, 2012, 08:11 AM
Android has always had the lions share of the mobile market. Both app stores have been around for years, yet you still have great apps that are not coming out on Android. The two most recent ones that come to mind are Punch Quest and NFS Most Wanted. Two very good games.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.nfs13_row

Rodimus Prime
Nov 5, 2012, 08:36 AM
Excellent, and I (clearly) didn't know that. I've only created apps (simple ones) while playing around with the SDK.

One less barrier, and I think we'll see app parity even sooner now.

yeah you would not even see the option until you consider uploading an app to the play store. It been that way since at the very least android 2.2 (if not even longer) Just the double the size of the App was a problem and why many choice not to go that direction because this was before you could move stuff to the sd card so app space was very limited.

I know in 2.3 they moved to the licensing system and deprecated the encrypting app system and even made it clear they were going to remove that ability and force you to go with the licensing system.

Oletros
Nov 5, 2012, 09:00 AM
Android has always had the lions share of the mobile market. Both app stores have been around for years, yet you still have great apps that are not coming out on Android. The two most recent ones that come to mind are Punch Quest and NFS Most Wanted. Two very good games.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.nfs13_row

TheHateMachine
Nov 5, 2012, 09:02 AM
Not enough devs take advantage of the Licensing system. If you attempt to pirate programs that use it you have to jump through tons of hoops and end up getting a half functioning app.

Not sure why more devs do not use it.

Oletros
Nov 5, 2012, 09:02 AM
I wonder if anyone has taken the time to analyze the various app stores and determine exactly how many unique categories of apps there are.

Personally, I suspect that there's less than 10,000 unique types of apps even possible. Maybe even less than 3,000. Every app is just a copy or variation on those.

And not taking into account that more than only 15% of apps in the App Store/Play Store have any download. 85% of all the apps are never downloaded

hyteckit
Nov 5, 2012, 09:06 AM
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.nfs13_row

Great. Except:

Not compatible with my Android tablet running ICS.


So far over 100 apps and games I want on Android tablet, but is incompatible.

VulchR
Nov 5, 2012, 09:13 AM
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Another thing that annoys me about Google. I tried to buy my first Android app today and it wants my passport and address documentation. I didn't need to give Apple that to buy apps. Kind of bad when you think about it.

Seriously? :eek: What were you buying? 'The Dummies Guide to IED's'?

nba1341
Nov 5, 2012, 09:18 AM
Great. Except:

Not compatible with my Android tablet running ICS.


So far over 100 apps and games I want on Android tablet, but is incompatible.


For some reason the Netherlands version was linked if you would have read the company you would have saw

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.nfs13_na&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5lYS5nYW1lcy5uZnMxM19uYSJd

Requires Android:
2.3.3 and up

michaeljohn
Nov 5, 2012, 12:23 PM
Think about it. If the Android market is 5 times the size of Apple's and growing month on month, its obvious where the money is. Watch this space. I think we are going to see something spectacular.

LOL, is this a serious post? Have you not read all the news for like the past year about how many devs are either stopping or have stopped making Android apps because they make literally nothing? You have it backwards, all the money is in the App store, not the Play store. Here is just one of many articles on the subject

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/316809/20120321/mobile-app-developers-leaving-android-apple.htm#.UJgD1LQvqyw

Lampmeister
Nov 5, 2012, 12:44 PM
I don't see why this issue even matters. So what if Android offers more apps? Even if they do, what have you got...a crappy Android device with a bunch of apps! :D

1member1
Nov 5, 2012, 12:50 PM
most android devices has different versions. some on 2.3 some on ICS and very little on jelly bean.
even chrome browser for android only support from 4.0.

In android piracy is much more easier. you can download apk and copy it to your device.
in iOS you have to jailbreak (not avilable for every version and phone) and then you have to change permissions on the folders - much more complicated for normal users.

so no I don't think android devs will make more money in the future. it will all be the same maybe even lower.

Oletros
Nov 5, 2012, 12:54 PM
LOL, is this a serious post? Have you not read all the news for like the past year about how many devs are either stopping or have stopped making Android apps because they make literally nothing? You have it backwards, all the money is in the App store, not the Play store. Here is just one of many articles on the subject

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/316809/20120321/mobile-app-developers-leaving-android-apple.htm#.UJgD1LQvqyw

You know that there is a slightly difference between a survey asking interest on developing for a platform and actually developing for that platform, don't you?


Can you name those many developers that have stopped developing for Android?

Dave.UK
Nov 5, 2012, 01:14 PM
In android piracy is much more easier. you can download apk and copy it to your device.
in iOS you have to jailbreak (not avilable for every version and phone) and then you have to change permissions on the folders - much more complicated for normal users.


Since June Google has started to offer encryption keys to developers so the paid app can only be used with the account it was purchased from.

1member1
Nov 5, 2012, 01:23 PM
Since June Google has started to offer encryption keys to developers so the paid app can only be used with the account it was purchased from.

I'm not android user but my friends downloading 24/7. not paying for any app in the play store. it's sad.

paulsalter
Nov 5, 2012, 01:25 PM
I'm not android user but my friends downloading 24/7. not paying for any app in the play store. it's sad.

I hope you dont share any files with your friends

If they are just downloading APK files from the net I dread to think what type of nasties are in them

Stuntman06
Nov 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Another thing that annoys me about Google. I tried to buy my first Android app today and it wants my passport and address documentation. I didn't need to give Apple that to buy apps. Kind of bad when you think about it.

That is rather unusual. I never had that when I tried to buy apps. Just asked for me credit card info the first time. After that it remembers it.

b166er
Nov 5, 2012, 02:05 PM
This whole argument makes no sense, again. Android does not "sell phones" at all. Samsung, LG, HTC, etc sell phones.

This is like saying Windows sold more PC's than Apple. You're comparing a software that is available on hundreds of devices VS an exclusive package of hardware and software that is only available from Apple.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, I'm saying this argument, as always, makes no freaking sense. I don't get how it is this hard to understand even after decades of comparing Windows VS Apple.

michaeljohn
Nov 6, 2012, 02:39 AM
You know that there is a slightly difference between a survey asking interest on developing for a platform and actually developing for that platform, don't you?


Can you name those many developers that have stopped developing for Android?

Do a Google search yourself. There are a ton of articles on this subject.

Oletros
Nov 6, 2012, 02:41 AM
Do a Google search yourself. There are a ton of articles on this subject.

You're the one claiming that developers are abandoning Android.

And it is clear that you don't have any proof and you're only spreading FUD

michaeljohn
Nov 6, 2012, 02:53 AM
You're the one claiming that developers are abandoning Android.

And it is clear that you don't have any proof and you're only spreading FUD

Pages here, enjoy

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&cp=13&gs_id=1v&xhr=t&q=developers+leaving+android&pf=p&sclient=tablet-gws&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&oq=developers+le&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=ead2cf42b29267e8&bpcl=37643589&biw=768&bih=912

Oletros
Nov 6, 2012, 03:13 AM
Pages here, enjoy

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&cp=13&gs_id=1v&xhr=t&q=developers+leaving+android&pf=p&sclient=tablet-gws&tbo=d&site=&source=hp&oq=developers+le&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=ead2cf42b29267e8&bpcl=37643589&biw=768&bih=912

Have you actually read the links? If you post 23 links to the same IDC history it still won't provve your point.

Enjoy your FUD

michaeljohn
Nov 6, 2012, 03:22 AM
Have you actually read the links? If you post 23 links to the same IDC history it still won't provve your point.

Enjoy your FUD

There are at least a dozen different articles there. Learn to read.

Oletros
Nov 6, 2012, 03:25 AM
There are at least a dozen different articles there. Learn to read.


The one that has to learn to read is you. None of them apart the Mika Mobile case talks about developers abandoning Android, and Mika Mobile was a very special case.

And still waiting those many Android developers that have abandoned the platform. And you know why tyou are incapable of naming them, because you don't have nothing, only FUD

Enjoy your hatred

steviewhy
Nov 6, 2012, 03:32 AM
There are at least a dozen different articles there. Learn to read.

Linking a google search between users is useless due to bubbling.

Everyone will get different results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

flameproof
Nov 6, 2012, 03:44 AM
With Android selling 5 times the number of phones in Q3 of 2012 than Apple, that can only mean one thing. Android apps are going to grow in number so fast that Apple's app store is going to look puny by comparison.

So? It means:

1. ...that you can find what you need for either platform.

2. ... you can chose then between 2000+ torch/flashlight apps rather then the mediocre 1000 you have now for iOS.

If the Android market is 5 times the size of Apple's and growing month on month, its obvious where the money is.

Android is already bigger then iOS for a looong time. But still.... I know one app developer that has the same app for iOS and Android. Even though there are more Android phones out there, he makes way more money with iOS. Not sure why, seems iOS users are more into buying apps.

AQUADock
Nov 6, 2012, 04:37 AM
There was once a time when larger screen devices was a deal breaker (Hello iPhone 5, and hello iPad Mini that can apparently be used with one hand according to Apple).
Theres a difference in using with one hand and holding it with one hand. I don't really care about the whole one hand usage thing but im just saying.

onthecouchagain
Nov 6, 2012, 06:50 AM
Theres a difference in using with one hand and holding it with one hand. I don't really care about the whole one hand usage thing but im just saying.

Right. And Apple makes the distinction in the video.

In the official iPad Mini video, Ive explicitly says "...you can still pick it up and easily use it with one hand..." Easily. Earlier in the video, they make the distinction that you can hold it with one hand, but at the 2:10 mark, they're clearly talking about using it with one hand.

Video is here: http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/overview/#video-ipad-mini-features)

Going by that reasoning, any device can be used one handed, yet according to their iPhone 5 campaign, one of the main talking points is that anything larger than a 4" smartphone is unusable with one hand.

So either the iPad Mini can be used one handed (like it says in the video) and therefore so can other smaller smartphones, or nothing above the iPhone 5 screen size (like it says in the iPhone campaigns) can be used one handed in which case the iPad Mini video is a lie.

AQUADock
Nov 6, 2012, 07:58 AM
Right. And Apple makes the distinction in the video.

In the official iPad Mini video, Ive explicitly says "...you can still pick it up and easily use it with one hand..." Easily. Earlier in the video, they make the distinction that you can hold it with one hand, but at the 2:10 mark, they're clearly talking about using it with one hand.

Video is here: http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/overview/#video-ipad-mini-features)

Going by that reasoning, any device can be used one handed, yet according to their iPhone 5 campaign, one of the main talking points is that anything larger than a 4" smartphone is unusable with one hand.

So either the iPad Mini can be used one handed (like it says in the video) and therefore so can other smaller smartphones, or nothing above the iPhone 5 screen size (like it says in the iPhone campaigns) can be used one handed in which case the iPad Mini video is a lie.

So Apple is contradicting themselves theres nothing new in that, they always have. Even if Apple said that you still can't use the whole display with one hand while holding it. I think what they mean is that with the small borders you can manipulate some of the display you can't do that with the full size iPad.

The reason Apple was campaigning the whole one handed thing with iPhone 5 was so they could give a reason for why they only made the display taller the actual reason is because every app in the appstore would have to be remade for the iPhone 5. Making stretching the apps is easy .

onthecouchagain
Nov 6, 2012, 09:39 AM
So Apple is contradicting themselves theres nothing new in that, they always have. Even if Apple said that you still can't use the whole display with one hand while holding it. I think what they mean is that with the small borders you can manipulate some of the display you can't do that with the full size iPad.

The reason Apple was campaigning the whole one handed thing with iPhone 5 was so they could give a reason for why they only made the display taller the actual reason is because every app in the appstore would have to be remade for the iPhone 5. Making stretching the apps is easy .

Agreed.

Some see Apple's decision regarding screen size as a huge plus, and indeed there are benefits to keeping everything tidy, but their fear of fragmentation, in my opinion, holds them back from really exploring new hardware and software.

jimmyb5374
Nov 6, 2012, 09:59 AM
This is my opinion ,not based on scientific data / theorem or dubious web links ;

Apple fear making bigger devices with resizable widgets and customisable setup and open development, purely on the basis they know unless they put in all the work or supersize the processor and ram the devices will LAG , and apple simply can't have that , or they will have devices with no distinction from android than better build quality and a certain fruit based imprint on the back

Just my opinion , but think about it, , its either commercial (profit margin / component costs) or pure fear they will have a lot of work to do not to end up like a one horse android (trick) pony.

cynics
Nov 6, 2012, 01:20 PM
This is my opinion ,not based on scientific data / theorem or dubious web links ;

Apple fear making bigger devices with resizable widgets and customisable setup and open development, purely on the basis they know unless they put in all the work or supersize the processor and ram the devices will LAG , and apple simply can't have that , or they will have devices with no distinction from android than better build quality and a certain fruit based imprint on the back

Just my opinion , but think about it, , its either commercial (profit margin / component costs) or pure fear they will have a lot of work to do not to end up like a one horse android (trick) pony.

Not only that but it will kill the battery. Androids come a long way with battery life while keeping functionality.

SlCKB0Y
Nov 8, 2012, 09:25 AM
Android has always had the lions share of the mobile market. Both app stores have been around for years, yet you still have great apps that are not coming out on Android. The two most recent ones that come to mind are Punch Quest and NFS Most Wanted. Two very good games.

I know.... It totally sucks. I was so hanging to be able to play the new need for speed on my Nexus 7 and now I can't because Android sucks and the Play Store is totally deficient.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.games.nfs13_na&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lYS5nYW1lcy5uZnMxM19uYSJd

Err....wait. what the??